Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Hi Renee: yeah; I first I was hesitant to use the herbal Belladonna as a prescription; but it worked so well I had to continue it. I was really surprised when the Dr. prescribed to quell stomach Flu. I was also surprised at good my stomach felt after I would ingest a teaspoon; I guess " the posion in the Herb makes the stoamch calm. But hey; do you think I would touch " Belladonna in the wild? No ! I did go through a mild withdrawel upon completion of the Solution. Interesting concerning the Rhubarb; I guess most know Essiac Tea has Rhubarb in it; not sure if the Essiac has the leaves or tuber; prob. the tubers. Rhubarb is such an awesome crop;difficult to grow tho " . A. , " Renee " <gaiacita wrote: > > Then you weren't getting a homeopathic remedy of belladonna, you were > getting an actual bit of the herb. Which is why they were so precise and why > it could have hurt you. It was probably a standardized extract of some type > > > Yes, if you haven't studied herbs then it is absolutely the best thing to > stick with the ones that you KNOW are safe. But remember--there can be > poison in different parts of the very safest of plants. You can eat the > stalk of rhubarb, but if you eat the leaf you will get sick. Same with > potatoes--eat the tuber but you'd better leave the above ground part alone. > So it is with " poisonous " plants--many parts of the plant are safe IF you > know what you are doing. > > Samala > Renee > > ---- > > Oh and PS The Belladonna was a prescription of Alkoloids(of > Belladonna); I read there are " 21 prescription brands of Belladonna > In the USA today. Belladonna is used to quell Stomach Cramping; and > It does work. I guess they dilute minute amounts in a cherry syrup; > Atleast that is the form the prescription. I wouldn't take Bella > Donna on my own for example; I wouldn't make a tea out of the leaves. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Hey Anne. The rhubarb in the Essiac tea is not the same as the garden rhubarb. Two different plants. They both can be grown at home, but you'd better know which is which! :-) I believe another name for the Essiac one is Turkey rhubarb, or Chinese rhubarb. You'd have to do a google search on the Latin name to make sure you had the right type to grow. Food rhubarb is not too difficult to grow, unless you live in the wrong conditions. I grew up in Illinois and it actually does much better up there than here in the south Too warm for it in the south. Samala Renee ---- I was also surprised at good my stomach felt after I would ingest a Teaspoon; I guess " the posion in the Herb makes the stoamch calm. But hey; do you think I would touch " Belladonna in the wild? No ! I did go through a mild withdrawel upon completion of the Solution. Interesting concerning the Rhubarb; I guess most know Essiac Tea has Rhubarb in it; not sure if the Essiac has the leaves or tuber; prob. The tubers. Rhubarb is such an awesome crop;difficult to grow tho " . A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Hi Renee: I recall people growing Rhubarb as a garden crop and then baking Pies out of it. Rhubarb is really a health food and is not as common today as it was. I'll research the Essiac Rhubarb species. Some other healthy crops to grow are Asparagus and Celery. I understand Asparagus has to be grown in raised beds. Another great food is Artichokes; I don't even know how they grow! Artchokes and Asparagus are both extremely good sources of Folic Acid; esp. Asparagus. Most people over-cook their Asparagus though. (Folic Acid has been proven to reverse " abnormal cervical cells). Another good combo is " Spinach and Walnuts with Citrus and Olive Oil.- An interesting topping for any salad in addtion to grated carrots is: Take a whole fresh Beet and grate on top of salad;imparts sweetness. Any green fruit or veggie is high in Folic Acid; Folic meaning Leaf. So anything green-leafed edible food item is high in Folic Acid. A. PS Potatoes are so high in Vit. C they were called " Poor Man's Orange. -- In , " Renee " <gaiacita wrote: > > Hey Anne. The rhubarb in the Essiac tea is not the same as the garden > rhubarb. Two different plants. They both can be grown at home, but you'd > better know which is which! :-) I believe another name for the Essiac one is > Turkey rhubarb, or Chinese rhubarb. You'd have to do a google search on the > Latin name to make sure you had the right type to grow. Food rhubarb is not > too difficult to grow, unless you live in the wrong conditions. I grew up > in Illinois and it actually does much better up there than here in the south > Too warm for it in the south. > > Samala > Renee > > ---- > > I was also surprised at good my stomach felt after I would ingest a > Teaspoon; I guess " the posion in the Herb makes the stoamch calm. > But hey; do you think I would touch " Belladonna in the wild? No ! > I did go through a mild withdrawel upon completion of the Solution. > Interesting concerning the Rhubarb; I guess most know Essiac Tea has > Rhubarb in it; not sure if the Essiac has the leaves or tuber; prob. > The tubers. Rhubarb is such an awesome crop;difficult to grow tho " . A. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Hi Anne. Your talking to an old hand at gardening. Lol I love it. Anyway nope asparagus doesn't have to be in a raised bed. Does just fine anywhere you put it--but make sure you put it where you want it because asparagus beds can last 30 YEARS or more. Wild asparagus grows along fence lines and back home in Illinois it was common to see people walking the fence lines of old farms looking for wild asparagus every spring. They knew most old farmers use to grow asparagus and the seeds would blow and land against the fence weeds and take hold. Even if the farm had been abandoned for years, the asparagus would still be growing and they could collect without actually trespassing on the farm land! A rhubarb bed will last for generations. We had one the whole time I was growing up. It was always a dare to us kids to pick a stalk of rhubarb (without Mom catching us lol) and eating it. It's so SOUR, but kids will eat anything. Pies and jellies and just stewed rhubarb for desert. Yum! Artichokes only grow in the south where it's warm all the time. They also grow in beds that, if it's warm enough, will be there for years and years. They make big, huge beautiful flowers that are cut and used in dried arrangements. But if you cut the flower you don't get the choke, so some are raised for the flowers and some for food. They are cool looking plants--they get very large. It's nice to be able to plant once and harvest forever. Berry bushes are the same way. I love currents though most people don't grow them anymore--they are an old fashioned fruit, but SO delicious. I had wild gooseberries growing in our yard. I'm not as fond of gooseberries because they are too sour to eat straight off the bush, though they make good pies. I like to just pick and much as I'm working in the yard and garden, and currents and black berries are just the ticket. Samala Renee ---- Hi Renee: I recall people growing Rhubarb as a garden crop and then Baking Pies out of it. Rhubarb is really a health food and is not as Common today as it was. I'll research the Essiac Rhubarb species. Some other healthy crops to grow are Asparagus and Celery. I Understand Asparagus has to be grown in raised beds. Another great food is Artichokes; I don't even know how they grow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Hello Renee: Thank you for the wonderful article. All info you wrote is so interesting. So many crops; like Artichokes and Asparagues and Berries etc. are planted once and " last forever. This is really good news ! So can you imagine all of the crops planted which may still be producing crops in the wild today? I have myself often noticed Berries in the Wild that looked out of place. i see these were prob. Berries planted by a formeer Gardner. Currants are really a good fruit; in fact; Dr. Carelton Fredericks Ph.D. states " Red Currants have high amount of Vitamin C naturally. One reason I do not harvest Wild Herbs in Spring and Summer is: 1. the Herbs; esp. Roots sometimes taste " like dirt; even after wash. 2. I never know the exact time of season to look for Herbs. Do you pull the Herbs like Dandelion by the roots or just top the greens? *I seek Leaafy green type natural Herbs like Chicory to use as a Salad green or steamed veggie. I already know of Dandelion and Plantain. What's the best Wild Herb easiest to find for " steaming? A. I like the bitter taste of Fresh uncooked wild greens also. Thank-u. ! , " Renee " <gaiacita wrote: > > Hi Anne. Your talking to an old hand at gardening. Lol I love it. Anyway > nope asparagus doesn't have to be in a raised bed. Does just fine anywhere > you put it--but make sure you put it where you want it because asparagus > beds can last 30 YEARS or more. Wild asparagus grows along fence lines and > back home in Illinois it was common to see people walking the fence lines of > old farms looking for wild asparagus every spring. They knew most old > farmers use to grow asparagus and the seeds would blow and land against the > fence weeds and take hold. Even if the farm had been abandoned for years, > the asparagus would still be growing and they could collect without actually > trespassing on the farm land! > > A rhubarb bed will last for generations. We had one the whole time I was > growing up. It was always a dare to us kids to pick a stalk of rhubarb > (without Mom catching us lol) and eating it. It's so SOUR, but kids will > eat anything. Pies and jellies and just stewed rhubarb for desert. Yum! > > Artichokes only grow in the south where it's warm all the time. They also > grow in beds that, if it's warm enough, will be there for years and years. > They make big, huge beautiful flowers that are cut and used in dried > arrangements. But if you cut the flower you don't get the choke, so some > are raised for the flowers and some for food. They are cool looking > plants--they get very large. > > It's nice to be able to plant once and harvest forever. Berry bushes are > the same way. I love currents though most people don't grow them > anymore--they are an old fashioned fruit, but SO delicious. I had wild > gooseberries growing in our yard. I'm not as fond of gooseberries because > they are too sour to eat straight off the bush, though they make good pies. > I like to just pick and much as I'm working in the yard and garden, and > currents and black berries are just the ticket. > > Samala > Renee > > ---- > > Hi Renee: I recall people growing Rhubarb as a garden crop and then > Baking Pies out of it. Rhubarb is really a health food and is not as > Common today as it was. I'll research the Essiac Rhubarb species. > > Some other healthy crops to grow are Asparagus and Celery. I > Understand Asparagus has to be grown in raised beds. > > Another great food is Artichokes; I don't even know how they grow! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 Hi Anne. I suppose it's all a matter of taste. I LIKE the taste of dirt. :-) And I don't like bitter greens. When I use to eat meat my favorite meat was anything wild--I much prefer that " gamey " taste that people talk ABout over farm raised meat any day. You can learn to like the taste of strange " things, it just takes time. Taste a little bite today, a little bite tomorrow. In a few months you'll wind up eating the whole thing because it now tastes good to you, instead of like dirt. Or, you can look at it like I say in my lectures " it's medicine, it's not SUPPOSE to taste good " lolol As for the berries--sometimes people would have planted them and left the area--you'd find an old homestead somewhere close by. But many times when you see berries out of place, it's because a bird deposited seeds in their poop, and the seeds took hold and a whole colony was established. That's how I had wild gooseberries growing back home, and how I have wild chili pequines here. Dandelions are good as green tops in the spring, but wait till late summer and early fall for the roots as medicine--they are stronger then. If you remember which part of the plant you want as medicine, that will help tell you when to pick. If you want root medicine, then usually you'd pick in the fall because then all plants are storing energy in their roots to get them through the winter. If you want the green part as medicine then you want to pick in the spring because that's when all the plants energy goes to " awaken the plant. You should go look for a good wild foods book for your area. There are many out on the market now. Some will just be using wilds as food for the diner table, but there are also some wild foods book that list how to use wild plants as edible medicine. I have a whole shelf of those books, but I'm too tired to go and get the names and authors now. Besides, when I bought those books it was back in the 70's so I'm sure there are much newer ones you'd be interested in. Because I lived in Illinois we had a lot of the same type of plants growing there as was growing in the Ozarks. About the only wild food books back then were from authors living in the Ozarks area, but now, in a big book store, you can find wild food authors from just about every part of the US. Most greens are good for steaming. Most of the very first plants of spring in your area were eaten in the old days, and called spring tonics! Because people back then went most of the winter without anything green, and when plants first come up they are full of nutrients so it was very refreshing and blood cleansing for people to eat their spring greens. Most plants taste better when they are young, like your dandelion. They get bitter when they get older. Do you make chicory coffee? A good wild food book will tell you what part to pick when, but did you know that you can use the chicory roots for coffee, the leaves for greens and the flowers as pretty edibles in salads? My folks use to speak of THEIR folks making an early spring salads every year of dandelions and hard boiled eggs, onions and hot bacon grease, called a wilted salad. You put everything into the salad and pour hot bacon grease over it, the greens Shrivel down to almost nothing, but BOY does that salad ever taste great. I use to make it every once in a while back then, but we don't have any true dandelions here. But just about every early green was used because of going so long without any for the winter. Now we have so many more options, that you pick the spring greens that only taste good to you without having to worry about needing to replenish your body with nutrients you didn't get during the winter (so that you would eat any green back then). Lots of people ate poke leaves, but you have to know the plant, and when to harvest, because the leaves can make you sick if they are too old. A good tasting wild green is fiddle leaf ferns (kind of like asparagus). There's wild ginger in the spring, sassafras, cattail, oh, lots and lots. You have to learn what is growing in your area and how to cook them. That's where a book becomes essential as almost no one teaches this stuff in class rooms. Oh, a remarkable plant you might be interested in, and can find growing almost everywhere in the US, is cattails. In the winter you can dig tubers out from the half frozen mud along the creeks and in ditches where they grow In the early spring you can take the very tops--the female part--of the stalks and steam them and they taste like sweet corn. The male part is the bottom thick part of the stalk, what you normally think of when you think of the brown part of a cattail was used as stuffing in shoes and moccasins to keep warm in the winter and also as bed stuffing, the leaves were used to weave baskets. The Indians used every part of the cattail. There are just sooooo many edible foods, that 90% of the population knows nothing about. Just go to a good bookstore and ask for the section on wild foods. You will be amazed at the information you can find. There are even field guides for wild foods that are quite handy to stick in a backpack as you go walking about, identifying plants that live in your area. I use to carry mine with me in the car and was always stopping along the back roads i.d.ing plants. A few times I'd stop along busy highways because I'd see something there that I didn't know. A couple of times a cop would stop and ask me what I was doing (or a nice driver would stop and ask me if I needed help :-) and I d just show them my book and they'd go on their way. It's an interesting and useful hobby. Samala Renee ---- I have myself often noticed Berries in the Wild that looked out of Place. I see these were prob. Berries planted by a formeer Gardner. Currants are really a good fruit; in fact; Dr. Carelton Fredericks Ph.D. States " Red Currants have high amount of Vitamin C naturally. One reason I do not harvest Wild Herbs in Spring and Summer is: 1. The Herbs; ESP. Roots sometimes taste " like dirt; even after wash. 2. I never know the exact time of season to look for Herbs. Do you Pull the Herbs like Dandelion by the roots or just top the greens? *I seek Leaafy green type natural Herbs like Chicory to use as a Salad green or steamed veggie. I already know of Dandelion and Plantain. What's the best Wild Herb easiest to find for " steaming? A. I like the bitter taste of Fresh uncooked wild greens also. Thank-U. ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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