Sciatica

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Hello...Dr Christopher says that sciatica is not a nerve problem at all but

due to toxic poison in the sigmoid section of the bowel.This small section

is subject to kinks and pockets.I would recommend bowel cleansing , diet

changes , etc. What is his age ? What kind of diet ? Exercise ?

 

Mary O

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" mamcass51 " <mamacass

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Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:30 PM

[herbal remedies] Sciatica

 

 

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I have had lower back pain on and off for many years

 

Ocassionally I get a shooting pain down my right leg after stooping

forward

 

I have tried yoga, chi gong, chiropractic adjustments, massage and

acupuncture with no lasting results

 

Any suggestions?

 

Regards - Vincent Gill

[Guest guest]

yes, wear a magnet in your right pocket. your energy is blocking.

also, consider ayurveda for ensuring your body's health is properly

aligned to avoid blockages. i can get my magnets from my doctor's

office. here's his website if you want the kind or maybe they'll sell

you one over the phone. http://ulerywellnesscenter.com/

 

it's more helpful than aspirin but it is a bandaid. if you find this

helps i'd encourage you to look into the electrical filters for your

home. i just fill my home and no longer need the magnet at all. i also

continue the yoga to enhance the flow too. good luck.

 

, " vincegill_2 "

<vincegill_2 wrote:

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> I have had lower back pain on and off for many years

>

> Ocassionally I get a shooting pain down my right leg after stooping

> forward

>

> I have tried yoga, chi gong, chiropractic adjustments, massage and

> acupuncture with no lasting results

>

> Any suggestions?

>

> Regards - Vincent Gill

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

 

Have you tried Kinesiology? you could be storing negative energy

there.

 

Regards

Caroline

http://alwaysnaturallygreat.com

 

 

, " vincegill_2 "

<vincegill_2 wrote:

>

> I have had lower back pain on and off for many years

>

> Ocassionally I get a shooting pain down my right leg after stooping

> forward

>

> I have tried yoga, chi gong, chiropractic adjustments, massage and

> acupuncture with no lasting results

>

> Any suggestions?

>

> Regards - Vincent Gill

>

[Guest guest]

Yes I also wear magnets and crystals but they do not address the

root cause

 

I need to know whats causing it to recurr....

 

 

, " M " <mariposa1111

wrote:

>

> yes, wear a magnet in your right pocket. your energy is blocking.

> also, consider ayurveda for ensuring your body's health is properly

> aligned to avoid blockages. i can get my magnets from my doctor's

> office. here's his website if you want the kind or maybe they'll

sell

> you one over the phone. http://ulerywellnesscenter.com/

>

> it's more helpful than aspirin but it is a bandaid. if you find

this

> helps i'd encourage you to look into the electrical filters for

your

> home. i just fill my home and no longer need the magnet at all. i

also

> continue the yoga to enhance the flow too. good luck.

>

> , " vincegill_2 "

> <vincegill_2@> wrote:

> >

> > I have had lower back pain on and off for many years

> >

> > Ocassionally I get a shooting pain down my right leg after

stooping

> > forward

> >

> > I have tried yoga, chi gong, chiropractic adjustments, massage

and

> > acupuncture with no lasting results

> >

> > Any suggestions?

> >

> > Regards - Vincent Gill

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Massage on the gluteals ( " but " muscles) is often quite successful for

control of sciatic pain. Back problems may often be ameliorated by massage

of the psoas muscles. These muscles extend from the top of the femur,

attached to the inside of the hips and attach to the inside of the lower

back. One thinks he is having back pain, when in fact one is experiencing

short muscles on the inside of the hips. These muscles lift the leg as in

stair climbing. This takes an experienced therapist. Stretching on a

continual basis and proper exercise will help long term.

 

Don in Dallas, Texas

 

 

 

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On Behalf Of vincegill_2

Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:04 PM

 

Sciatica

 

 

 

I have had lower back pain on and off for many years

 

Ocassionally I get a shooting pain down my right leg after stooping

forward

 

I have tried yoga, chi gong, chiropractic adjustments, massage and

acupuncture with no lasting results

 

Any suggestions?

 

Regards - Vincent Gill

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

---vincent do read on

 

 

SCIATICA

Sciatica can be a very painful and disabling problem. It involves

pain in the leg, which is caused by irritation of the sciatic nerve,

the largest nerve in the body.

The sciatic nerve is formed by lumbar (lower back) nerve roots,

where the nerves emerge from the spine. These nerve roots join

together at the sides of the spine to form the large unified bands,

which are the right and left sciatic nerves. These nerves course

downward from the lower back, through the buttocks, and into the

thighs, each one eventually splitting into two major branches (the

tibial nerve and the common peroneal nerve) just above the knee.

These smaller nerve branches provide the nerve supply to the lower

leg, which is essential for controlling the movement of the leg

muscles. Sciatica can involve pain at any point along the course of

the sciatic nerve and its branches, from the lower back to the tip

of the big toe, but it most commonly refers to pain in the leg.

Though most nerves are threadlike in appearance, the sciatic nerve

is more accurately visualized as a thick, smooth gray rope, often

approaching an inch in diameter. The bulk of the nerve (and the many

layers of nerve fibers within it) make it particularly susceptible

to pressure and irritation.

Modern Medical, Osteopathic and Chiropractic Explanations of

Sciatica

The current conventional understanding of sciatica is that it most

frequently occurs as the result of pressure on nerve roots, due to a

bulging or ruptured spinal disc. These discs are composed of a

strong outer layer of circular fibers and an inner layer of a gel-

like material. Spinal discs act as shock-absorbing cushions between

the vertebrae (spinal bones).

If the outer fibers of a spinal disc give way due to a traumatic

injury or long-term gradual weakening, the gel can slip out through

the tear in the outer layer. In most instances, it remains connected

to the main mass of gel in the disc (this is called a protrusion),

but in other more severe cases, it breaks off (this is called a

prolapse) to form a " free fragment. " Protrusions and prolapses

usually occur in the area of the nerve root. Because the root is

exquisitely sensitive, this results in the classic sharp leg pain of

sciatica. If a large disc rupture occurs, and a significant amount

of the gel breaks loose, there may be no good alternative to back

surgery. Fortunately, most cases of sciatica are less severe and can

be treated less invasively.

Sciatica caused by mild to moderate disc bulges can be treated by

chiropractors and osteopaths with specialized forms of traction (the

McManis and Cox methods), spinal adjustments or manipulations, and

stretching exercises for the lower back.

Sciatica-like leg pain can also come from spinal problems not

directly related to the spinal discs. Spinal imbalances, which

chiropractors call " subluxations " and osteopaths call " lesions, " may

involve the locking of joints (places where two bones meet) of the

lumbar vertebrae or of the sacroiliac joints, located in the back of

the pelvis. These are a common source of both lower back pain and

the leg pain that sometimes accompanies it. Such subluxations and

lesions are best treated with manual manipulation by a chiropractor

or osteopath.

The Cayce Readings Approach to Sciatica

The Cayce readings that are related to sciatica are consistent with

the modern health perspective, insofar as they demonstrate a

recognition that the symptoms relate to nerve irritation in the

lower back.

But the Cayce readings go further. They rarely conclude that the

mechanical problems of spinal alignment, joint motion and nerve

pressure are the whole story. Instead, they point toward potentially

deeper levels of causation, particularly with regard to the organs

of digestion, elimination, and circulation.

The Cayce health readings always evaluate the primary symptom (in

this case sciatica) in relation to the rest of the body, with its

many interdependent systems. Cayce's full-body, all-systems'

approach is an excellent early example of holistic medicine. Readers

of the Cayce material find that symptoms are never viewed in

isolation, but rather as part of a whole system, which includes not

only the entire body, but also the mind and spirit that infuse the

body.

Commitment to Healing: Making a Choice

Before delving into Cayce's physical recommendations for the

sciatica-sufferers who consulted him, its important to remember the

underlying body-mind-spirit context of the readings. As Cayce said

in reading 3138-1:

" ...unless there is the determination in self, as well as those who

may be necessary to make the applications for corrections with this

body, we would not begin, but rather rely upon the sedatives ...

[which] are not curative forces at all. "

In other words, patients face a choice between suppressing their

symptoms on the one hand, and, on the other, pursuing deeper levels

of healing. Making this choice requires the individual to examine

his or her goals. The Cayce readings are saying that unless these

goals include a commitment to pursuing deeper levels of the healing

process, suppressing the pain with medication may be all that can be

hoped for. The readings by no means endorse such a course of action,

but recognize that each individual has free will in this matter.

These deeper levels of healing may involve much more than the

disappearance of a particular pain or malfunction, and the healing

process may be demanding of both the patient and the doctor. In some

of the cases in this file, the patient did not follow Cayce's

recommendations, and in other cases the directions were followed

only in part. Those cases in which the greatest success was achieved

appear to have involved people who made a commitment to healing and

then followed through.

Causes of Sciatica According to the Cayce Readings

The Cayce readings on sciatica refer consistently to three key

causes of the condition:

1. Injuries to the spine or spinal muscles

2. Congestion in the colon (large intestine)

3. A general condition of acidity in the body

Interestingly, the readings indicate that while a back strain or

other back injury usually plays a role in the development of

sciatica, it is not often the primary role. Instead, a more wide-

ranging condition of acidity and toxicity is seen as the central

cause. Cayce is saying that the sciatica stems from an overall

imbalance in the body, which takes the form of a specific symptom

(in this case sciatica) as the result of a particular injury

sustained by the body. Reading 2516-2 states this concisely:

Q: What produced these poisons and nerve pressures in the first

place?

A: Unbalanced condition and lack of proper eliminations.

Q: Is the condition due to an injury, a wrench in my back, which I

received in the spring?

A: This, of course, only localized it.

In reading 404-12, the questioner asks why the colon affects the

sciatic nerve. Cayce replies, " Because the nerves connect directly

from one to the other! " Modern medical textbooks recognize this

phenomenon, referring to it as the viscero-somatic reflex

(viscera=internal organ, soma=body). Other examples of such reflexes

occur when people with heart problems experience pain in their left

arm, or people with gall bladder trouble have right shoulder pain.

(It should be noted that most cases of left arm and right shoulder

pain are not caused by the heart and gall bladder.)

Cayce's approach expands the conventional view of sciatica. The

inclusive and holistic context mapped out by the Cayce readings is

more akin to the approach of Eastern healing arts than of Western

medicine.

Cayce Recommendations for Treatment of Sciatica

Among the physical treatments Cayce advised for sciatica are:

1. a natural diet low to moderate in fat, including plenty of

vegetables

2. colonic irrigations

3. spinal manipulation

4. massage with oils including olive and peanut

5. low-power electrical stimulation with the Wet Cell Appliance,

which was used to electrically transmit gold chloride ions into the

body

6. external herb and mineral applications, including mullein, Glyco-

Thymoline, and hot Epsom salts

7. low-power electrical stimulation with the radio-active [radial]

appliance

Massage, manipulation, the electrical therapies, and the external

applications can be understood, for the most part, as methods of

balancing the muscular, skeletal, and nervous systems. As such,

Cayce's recommendation to use them is largely consistent with

methods of healing widely accepted today in the health professions,

though the form of electrical stimulation favored by the Cayce

readings is of a different nature than the higher-intensity

electrical therapies in common use today.

Where the Cayce readings differ most significantly from current

conventional treatment is with regard to the emphasis they place on

diet, and the roles of circulation and elimination. Most

contemporary doctors who deal with sciatica consider diet,

circulation, and elimination largely irrelevant. The Cayce readings,

consistent with the osteopathy of Cayce's era, consider it to be

crucial.

The readings assert that poor diet (high in fats, low in nutrients)

creates a drag upon the overall system. This results in a buildup of

toxins in the system, particularly in the colon. The levels of the

spine that provide the nerve supply to the colon also supply the

sciatic nerve. Nerve distress signals from the colon are transmitted

to the spine at these levels, which in turn activates pain pathways

in the sciatic nerve. This feedback loop goes in both directions,

further reinforcing the vicious cycle.

Cayce's therapies seek to interrupt the cycle at several points

along the way, through colonic irrigations to cleanse the colon of

toxic matter, spinal manipulation to correct structural imbalances

and normalize the nerve supply, massage to stimulate circulation and

relax tense muscles, and electrical therapies to balance body

energies. These, combined with a non-toxic natural diet, provide a

program for both symptom relief and improved overall health.

 

phill

In , " vincegill_2 "

<vincegill_2 wrote:

>

> I have had lower back pain on and off for many years

>

> Ocassionally I get a shooting pain down my right leg after

stooping

> forward

>

> I have tried yoga, chi gong, chiropractic adjustments, massage and

> acupuncture with no lasting results

>

> Any suggestions?

>

> Regards - Vincent Gill

>

[Guest guest]

My Mom got rid of her sciatica by wearing a magnet on her lower

spine. Not sure exactly how long it took but it may have been a few

months. Try ebay and search for Nikken and Flex (big rectangular

shape) and you may find one cheap. Make sure it's silver colored on

the back, not gold. The gold ones are old and don't have the far-

infrared covering which goes next to your body and is quite healing as

well.

 

Sharon

 

, " Jeanne Stump "

<jstumpj wrote:

>

> Hi, I just joined your wonderful group and have read all I could find

> on sciatica. This is my second round of it, in both legs now. I am

> having an MRI tomorrow to find the root cause physically, but I want

> to treat it with alternative meds. I am doing chiro and deep massage

> already. I am starting the stretches. Could someone give me more

> information about Shegoi? Proper form to take and dosage? And does it

> really work for sciatica? Also need advise for the right kind of

> gentle exercise to do for this. I wrecked it doing lower body

nautilis

> this time. Thanks, Jeanne

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,Jeanne,maybe you can check if your spine is alright,you can try

massage along acupuncture meridians and psoas on your back and legs,to

let muscles and tendors loose.Please avoid being tired and cold.

 

, " Jeanne Stump " <jstumpj

wrote:

>

> Hi, I just joined your wonderful group and have read all I could find

> on sciatica. This is my second round of it, in both legs now. I am

> having an MRI tomorrow to find the root cause physically, but I want

> to treat it with alternative meds. I am doing chiro and deep massage

> already. I am starting the stretches. Could someone give me more

> information about Shegoi? Proper form to take and dosage? And does it

> really work for sciatica? Also need advise for the right kind of

> gentle exercise to do for this. I wrecked it doing lower body nautilis

> this time. Thanks, Jeanne

>

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