Uridine, Thanks

[Guest guest]

Dear,

on you wrote as below. Thanks for the valuable

information.

I have a few points.

 

Yes, unfortunately the GE problem has spread beyond Turkey. Its now in India

too.

 

Here in India we get sugar-cane in summer and sugar-beets in winter. My worry

was that the molasses from sugarcane may be different from the molasses coming

from sugarbeets in the sense that the molasses from sugarcane may not contain

Uridine. Please correct me here and remove my worry if you can. Would you say

that all molasses are the same as regards Uridine?

 

This correction is especially important to me because intact sugarcane here is

cheap and easily available. We can walk down, buy the intact sugarcane cane,

bring it home, peel it and make its juice ourself. Will such a juice contain

Uridine?

 

Similar exercise with sugarbeets in winter is viable. But will the juice of

sugarbeets contain Uridine or the Uridine will be gone to waste thrown away the

left over (juiced out) sugarbeets?

 

And by the way, what is Uridine? Is it protein amino acid or fat or a B vitamin?

 

Thanks.

Ratan.

 

Hi Ratan!

 

I'm not sure that I understand your question however I believe

that I may have some suggestions which may be helpful. First of all

I would like to say that there is a world of difference between

refined sugar and molasses. The best way to obtain molasses is to

obtain " Unsulphured Organic Molasses!

 

The same is true regarding GE sugar beets in comparison to organic

beets. The organic beets themselves contain considerably more

*nutrition* than their genetically engineered counterparts and yes,

refined sugar IS genetically engineered as well!!!

 

Although I have no clue as to whether this is true in your country,

I know that we are plagued with genetic engineered sugarcane and

beets in our country and I'm assuming that this is a world wide

problem...at least this is what I have found! The GE problem has

been felt as far away as TURKEY, or so I've been told.

 

Also we know that All " PROCESSED " sugar undergoes a bleaching

process that tends to " interfere " with the " digestive processes "

causing them to just lay there in the stomach and " ferment " .

 

This is not the case with a " whole food " such as *molasses*.

Molasses typically has all the " enzymes " intact, is rich in all the

B-vitamins and other important " constituents " which the body " needs "

in order to use it properly!

 

This is not true of refined sugar in all its other forms. I am

including

confirmation text below is taken from the newstarget website:

http://www.newstarget.com/006587.html

 

He has a slightly different opinion on this topic than the other

article that was submitted to the group from Psychology Today. He

maintains that this " component " is also abundantly found

in raw walnuts and fish!!

 

Quote from Newstarget.com

 

" Based on the results of the study, it seems silly that anyone would

continue to use antidepressant drugs to try to treat depression when

there are simple healing foods available that do a better job.

 

This is especially true when considering the potentially dangerous

side effects of antidepressant drugs that are now coming to light,

including increased risk of suicides, violent behavior, and other

similar acts of aggression.

 

But what healing foods in particular are we talking about in this

study?

 

In addition to the omega-3 fatty acids, these health enhancing

substances are FOUND in " walnuts " , " molasses " , and " fish " , according to

researchers.

They're also found in MANY other foods.

It's especially interesting to note that molasses is included in

this list, because molasses is produced as a waste product from the

sugar refining industry. When you refine sugar beets or whole grains

in order to make refined white sugar or white flour, you remove as much as

98% of the nutrition from those natural foods, leaving only a white,

super sweet, highly concentrated refined sugar, and that's what

ultimately gets fed to human beings.

 

The waste product from this is a thick, brown, syrupy liquid --

that's molasses.

 

Molasses contains most of the nutrition of the original food,

including the vitamins, minerals,and various compounds such as " uridine " .

 

It is this molasses that's normally sent off to be used in

livestock feed, and yet what we're finding here with this research is that this

molasses can help prevent depression.

 

Eating molasses is part of a " food strategy " that's just as good as

antidepressant drugs. "

 

End of quote!

 

On another note: Have you ever tried Gingko for your son's

depression?

Gingko is used to increase blood flow to the brain. Rosemary is also

excellent remedy. Circulatory problems do frequently exist in those

who are afflicted with depression.

And yes, glutamine is also excellent! However, for the brain, I

would think N-Acetyl-Carnitine would be better! There is a lot of

evidence for NAC on Dr. Murray's site.

 

Best Regards, JoAnn

 

P.S> I am including more information below:

 

NV: Doctor Walker, What is Uridine?

 

UAW: Uridine is a particular " nucleoside " which is used by our body

to produce DNA. Uridine is also required for many other metabolic

pathways

 

- for example uridine is needed to produce glycogen.

 

Uridine is a natural substance in our body.

 

Humans are normally able to produce uridine, but the ability to do

so requires intact mitochondria.

 

NV: How does Uridine reduce mitochondrial toxicity caused by

nucleosides?

 

UAW: Our current research supports the following concept: One class

of anti-HIV drugs are the so called " nucleoside reverse transcriptase

inhibitors " (NRTIs).

 

As the name implies, the NRTIs are themselves nucleosides

( " nukes " ). The NRTIs are " bad nukes " , as they are toxic to mitochondria.

This is because they inhibit gamma polymerase, an enzyme that is

essential for the replication of mitochondrial DNA.

 

As a consequence, the levels of mitochondrial DNA in mitochondria

decline. Mitochondrial DNA however is necessary for the proper

function of the respiratory chain (this is were we " breathe internally, "

consume oxygen and make ATP as the energy for our body.

Another consequence of respiratory chain dysfunction is that the

body cannot make uridine and other natural nucleosides (the " good

nukes " ).

 

Therefore, the NRTI-nucleosides ( " the bad nukes " ) are more abundant

in relation to the natural nucleosides ( " the good nukes " ) at gamma

polymerase. This excess of the bad nukes makes mitochondrial function even

worse, because a vicious circle is closed.

 

Uridine replenishes the good nukes and therefore abolishes this vicious circle.

14 April, 2005.

 

" JoAnn Guest " angelprincessjo

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

, " Dr. Ratan

Singh " <psych_58> wrote:

>

> Dear,

> on you wrote as below. Thanks for the

valuable information. I have a few points.

 

> Here in India we get sugar-cane in summer and sugar-beets in

winter. My worry was that the molasses from sugarcane may be

different from the

molasses coming from sugarbeets in the sense that the molasses from

sugarcane may not contain Uridine.

 

Please correct me here and remove my worry if you can.

 

Would you say that all molasses are the same as regards to Uridine?

>

> This correction is especially important to me because intact

sugarcane here is cheap and easily available.

 

We can walk down, buy the intact sugarcane cane, bring it home,

peel it and make its juice ourself.Will such a juice contain Uridine?

 

> Similar exercise with sugarbeets in winter is viable.

 

But will the juice of sugarbeets contain Uridine or the Uridine

will be gone to waste thrown away the left over (juiced out)

sugarbeets?

> And by the way, what is Uridine?

Is it protein, amino acid or fat or a B vitamin?

> Thanks. Ratan.

 

 

> Hi Ratan,

 

It seems that Uridine is a " nucleoside "

( " nuke " ) used by our body to produce DNA, and not simply an ordinary

 

vitamin or mineral supplement. It is a component of " ribonucleic "

acid, and its nucleotides participate in the " biosynthesis " of

polysaccharides and polysaccharide-containing compounds.There are

several different forms of Uridine available with different

mechanisms of action.

 

According to more recent info I've found that it IS available in

supplement form, although in my opinion it would be more

bioavailable when derived from its original source as you're attempting to do.

 

 

It is most frequently used by those with HIV/AIDS...as it

counteracts the side effects of the drugs (AZT,etc) Its use for depression is

not well documented although there is evidence that it is also effective for

depression.

 

> Uridine is a natural substance in our body. As humans, we are

" normally " able to " produce " uridine at the cellular level. Molasses

contains most of the nutrition of the original food,including the

vitamins, minerals,and various *compounds* such as " uridine " .

 

It seems as if you would be able to retain most of the " Uridine "

using your own home processing methods. It seems as if it would

retain most of the naturally occuring components intact, but then it is

anybody's guess as to whats in there after juicing.

 

If I feel that I need more of the fiber content or that I'm missing

important nutrients, I tend to make use of the remaining fiber in

cooking, homemade soups, etc. Sometimes it requires a bit of

improvisation to accomplish this, however my mind is at ease knowing

that there is little or no nutrition going to waste. :-)

 

I obtain the organic unsulphured molasses here in the states, but it

seems as if your more natural methods of processing would yield more

Uridine, in my opinion anyway.

 

You can rest assured that the final product will contain more

vitamins, minerals and enzymes than any of the more " processed " varieties!

 

JoAnn