Uridine for depression

[Guest guest]

You folks might have read the article in one of the

recent issues of Psychology Today that Uridine found

in sugarbeets and mollasses lifts up depression

IMMEDIATELY; omega3 etc and drugs take time.

Then I have two questions:

#1. Sugarbeets and molasses are precursors of white

sugar. Will they not be as harmful as sugar? In that

case why not to take to Glutamin. But I think glutamin

doesn't have Uridine. We have to do the balancing act

then: Taking molasses ONLY when depressed?

 

#2. Sugarbeets and its molasses is not easily

available. Is Uridine there in the more easily

available sugarcane and its molasses?

 

Thanks.

Ratan.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Niacin deficiency has been found to cause depression. It was successfully

studied in the 1950's as a relief for depression and a side effect was found

that it had cholesterol lowering properties, which prompted further research

in that area.

 

By the way, Niacin in 1500 mg quantities and higher not only lowers

cholesterol, but raises HDL and lowers LDL, something that the statins do

not do. Slow release niacin does not cause flushing.

 

Jay

 

Ratan wrote:

 

You folks might have read the article in one of the

recent issues of Psychology Today that Uridine found

in sugarbeets and mollasses lifts up depression

IMMEDIATELY; omega3 etc and drugs take time.

Then I have two questions:

#1. Sugarbeets and molasses are precursors of white

sugar. Will they not be as harmful as sugar? In that

case why not to take to Glutamin. But I think glutamin

doesn't have Uridine. We have to do the balancing act

then: Taking molasses ONLY when depressed?

 

#2. Sugarbeets and its molasses is not easily

available. Is Uridine there in the more easily

available sugarcane and its molasses?

 

Thanks.

Ratan.

[Guest guest]

, psych doc

<psych_58> wrote:

>

> You folks might have read the article in one of the

> recent issues of Psychology Today that Uridine found

> in sugarbeets and mollasses lifts up depression

> IMMEDIATELY; omega3 etc and drugs take time.

 

> Then I have two questions:

> #1. Sugarbeets and molasses are precursors of white

> sugar. Will they not be as harmful as sugar? In that

> case why not to take to Glutamin. But I think glutamin

> doesn't have Uridine. We have to do the balancing act

> then: Taking molasses ONLY when depressed?

>

> #2. Sugarbeets and its molasses is not easily

> available. Is Uridine there in the more easily

> available sugarcane and its molasses?

>

> Thanks.

> Ratan.

 

Hi Ratan!

 

I'm not sure that I understand your question however I believe

that I may have some suggestions which may be helpful. First of all

I would like to say that there is a world of difference between

refined sugar and molasses. The best way to obtain molasses is to

obtain " Unsulphured Organic Molasses!

 

The same is true regarding GE sugar beets in comparison to organic

beets. The organic beets themselves contain considerably more

 

*nutrition* than their genetically engineered counterparts and yes,

refined sugar IS genetically engineered as well!!!

 

Although I have no clue as to whether this is true in your country,

I know that we are plagued with genetic engineered sugarcane and

beets in our country and I'm assuming that this is a world wide

problem...at least this is what I have found! The GE problem has

been felt as far away as TURKEY, or so I've been told.

 

 

Also we know that All " PROCESSED " sugar undergoes a bleaching

process that tends to " interfere " with the " digestive processes "

causing them to just lay there in the stomach and " ferment " .

 

This is not the case with a " whole food " such as *molasses*.

Molasses typically has all the " enzymes " intact, is rich in all the

B-vitamins and other important " constituents " which the body " needs "

in order to use it properly!

 

This is not true of refined sugar in all its other forms. I am

including

confirmation text below is taken from the newstarget website:

http://www.newstarget.com/006587.html

 

He has a slightly different opinion on this topic than the other

article that was submitted to the group from Psychology Today. He

maintains that this " component " is also abundantly found

in raw walnuts and fish!!

 

Quote from Newstarget.com

 

" Based on the results of the study, it seems silly that anyone would

continue to use antidepressant drugs to try to treat depression when

there are simple healing foods available that do a better job.

 

This is especially true when considering the potentially dangerous

side effects of antidepressant drugs that are now coming to light,

including increased risk of suicides, violent behavior, and other

similar acts of aggression.

 

But what healing foods in particular are we talking about in this

study?

 

In addition to the omega-3 fatty acids, these health enhancing

substances are FOUND in

 

" walnuts " , " molasses " , and " fish " , according to researchers.

They're also found in MANY other foods.

It's especially interesting to note that molasses is included in

this list, because molasses is produced as a waste product from the

sugar refining industry. When you refine sugar beets or whole grains

in order

to make refined white sugar or white flour, you remove as much as

98% of the nutrition from those natural foods, leaving only a white,

super sweet, highly concentrated refined sugar, and that's what

ultimately

 

gets fed to human beings.

 

The waste product from this is a thick, brown, syrupy liquid --

that's molasses.

 

Molasses contains most of the nutrition of the original food,

including the vitamins, minerals,and various compounds such

 

as " uridine " .

 

It is this molasses that's normally sent off to be used in

livestock feed,

and yet what we're finding here with this research is that this

molasses can help prevent depression.

 

Eating molasses is part of a " food strategy " that's just as good as

antidepressant drugs. "

 

End of quote!

 

On another note: Have you ever tried Gingko for your son's

depression?

Gingko is used to increase blood flow to the brain. Rosemary is also

excellent remedy. Circulatory problems do frequently exist in those

who are afflicted with depression.

And yes, glutamine is also excellent! However, for the brain, I

would think N-Acetyl-Carnitine would be better! There is a lot of

evidence for NAC on Dr. Murray's site.

 

 

Best Regards, JoAnn

 

P.S>

 

I am including more information below:

 

 

NV: Doctor Walker, What is Uridine?

 

UAW: Uridine is a particular " nucleoside " which is used by our body

to

 

produce DNA. Uridine is also required for many other metabolic

pathways

 

- for example uridine is needed to produce glycogen.

 

Uridine is a natural substance in our body.

 

Humans are normally able to produce uridine, but the ability to do

so

 

requires intact mitochondria.

 

NV: How does Uridine reduce mitochondrial toxicity caused by

 

nucleosides?

 

UAW: Our current research supports the following concept: One class

of

 

anti-HIV drugs are the so called " nucleoside reverse transcriptase

 

inhibitors " (NRTIs).

 

As the name implies, the NRTIs are themselves nucleosides

( " nukes " ).

The NRTIs are " bad nukes " , as they are toxic to mitochondria.

This is because they inhibit gamma polymerase, an enzyme that is

 

essential for the replication of mitochondrial DNA.

 

As a consequence, the levels of mitochondrial DNA in mitochondria

 

decline. Mitochondrial DNA however is necessary for the proper

function

 

of the respiratory chain (this is were we " breathe internally, "

consume

 

oxygen and make ATP as the energy for our body.

 

Another consequence of respiratory chain dysfunction is that the

body

 

cannot make uridine and other natural nucleosides (the " good

nukes " ).

 

Therefore, the NRTI-nucleosides ( " the bad nukes " ) are more abundant

in

 

relation to the natural nucleosides ( " the good nukes " ) at gamma

 

polymerase.

 

This excess of the bad nukes makes mitochondrial function even

worse,

 

because a vicious circle is closed.

 

Uridine replenishes the good nukes and therefore abolishes this

 

vicious circle.

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>And yes, glutamine is also excellent! However, for the brain, I would think

N-Acetyl-Carnitine would be better! There is a lot of evidence for NAC on

Dr. Murray's site.

 

I would also suggest the book Depression Free for Life by Dr. Gabriel

Cousens. It goes into depth explaining the different types of depression

(i.e. serotonin deficiency, dopamine deficiency, etc.) and clues to figure

out which type you have. In addition, Dr. Cousens explains how different

amino acids work to help balance these specific deficiencies.

 

-Poppy