Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 You folks might have read the article in one of the recent issues of Psychology Today that Uridine found in sugarbeets and mollasses lifts up depression IMMEDIATELY; omega3 etc and drugs take time. Then I have two questions: #1. Sugarbeets and molasses are precursors of white sugar. Will they not be as harmful as sugar? In that case why not to take to Glutamin. But I think glutamin doesn't have Uridine. We have to do the balancing act then: Taking molasses ONLY when depressed? #2. Sugarbeets and its molasses is not easily available. Is Uridine there in the more easily available sugarcane and its molasses? Thanks. Ratan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Niacin deficiency has been found to cause depression. It was successfully studied in the 1950's as a relief for depression and a side effect was found that it had cholesterol lowering properties, which prompted further research in that area. By the way, Niacin in 1500 mg quantities and higher not only lowers cholesterol, but raises HDL and lowers LDL, something that the statins do not do. Slow release niacin does not cause flushing. Jay Ratan wrote: You folks might have read the article in one of the recent issues of Psychology Today that Uridine found in sugarbeets and mollasses lifts up depression IMMEDIATELY; omega3 etc and drugs take time. Then I have two questions: #1. Sugarbeets and molasses are precursors of white sugar. Will they not be as harmful as sugar? In that case why not to take to Glutamin. But I think glutamin doesn't have Uridine. We have to do the balancing act then: Taking molasses ONLY when depressed? #2. Sugarbeets and its molasses is not easily available. Is Uridine there in the more easily available sugarcane and its molasses? Thanks. Ratan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 , psych doc <psych_58> wrote: > > You folks might have read the article in one of the > recent issues of Psychology Today that Uridine found > in sugarbeets and mollasses lifts up depression > IMMEDIATELY; omega3 etc and drugs take time. > Then I have two questions: > #1. Sugarbeets and molasses are precursors of white > sugar. Will they not be as harmful as sugar? In that > case why not to take to Glutamin. But I think glutamin > doesn't have Uridine. We have to do the balancing act > then: Taking molasses ONLY when depressed? > > #2. Sugarbeets and its molasses is not easily > available. Is Uridine there in the more easily > available sugarcane and its molasses? > > Thanks. > Ratan. Hi Ratan! I'm not sure that I understand your question however I believe that I may have some suggestions which may be helpful. First of all I would like to say that there is a world of difference between refined sugar and molasses. The best way to obtain molasses is to obtain " Unsulphured Organic Molasses! The same is true regarding GE sugar beets in comparison to organic beets. The organic beets themselves contain considerably more *nutrition* than their genetically engineered counterparts and yes, refined sugar IS genetically engineered as well!!! Although I have no clue as to whether this is true in your country, I know that we are plagued with genetic engineered sugarcane and beets in our country and I'm assuming that this is a world wide problem...at least this is what I have found! The GE problem has been felt as far away as TURKEY, or so I've been told. Also we know that All " PROCESSED " sugar undergoes a bleaching process that tends to " interfere " with the " digestive processes " causing them to just lay there in the stomach and " ferment " . This is not the case with a " whole food " such as *molasses*. Molasses typically has all the " enzymes " intact, is rich in all the B-vitamins and other important " constituents " which the body " needs " in order to use it properly! This is not true of refined sugar in all its other forms. I am including confirmation text below is taken from the newstarget website: http://www.newstarget.com/006587.html He has a slightly different opinion on this topic than the other article that was submitted to the group from Psychology Today. He maintains that this " component " is also abundantly found in raw walnuts and fish!! Quote from Newstarget.com " Based on the results of the study, it seems silly that anyone would continue to use antidepressant drugs to try to treat depression when there are simple healing foods available that do a better job. This is especially true when considering the potentially dangerous side effects of antidepressant drugs that are now coming to light, including increased risk of suicides, violent behavior, and other similar acts of aggression. But what healing foods in particular are we talking about in this study? In addition to the omega-3 fatty acids, these health enhancing substances are FOUND in " walnuts " , " molasses " , and " fish " , according to researchers. They're also found in MANY other foods. It's especially interesting to note that molasses is included in this list, because molasses is produced as a waste product from the sugar refining industry. When you refine sugar beets or whole grains in order to make refined white sugar or white flour, you remove as much as 98% of the nutrition from those natural foods, leaving only a white, super sweet, highly concentrated refined sugar, and that's what ultimately gets fed to human beings. The waste product from this is a thick, brown, syrupy liquid -- that's molasses. Molasses contains most of the nutrition of the original food, including the vitamins, minerals,and various compounds such as " uridine " . It is this molasses that's normally sent off to be used in livestock feed, and yet what we're finding here with this research is that this molasses can help prevent depression. Eating molasses is part of a " food strategy " that's just as good as antidepressant drugs. " End of quote! On another note: Have you ever tried Gingko for your son's depression? Gingko is used to increase blood flow to the brain. Rosemary is also excellent remedy. Circulatory problems do frequently exist in those who are afflicted with depression. And yes, glutamine is also excellent! However, for the brain, I would think N-Acetyl-Carnitine would be better! There is a lot of evidence for NAC on Dr. Murray's site. Best Regards, JoAnn P.S> I am including more information below: NV: Doctor Walker, What is Uridine? UAW: Uridine is a particular " nucleoside " which is used by our body to produce DNA. Uridine is also required for many other metabolic pathways - for example uridine is needed to produce glycogen. Uridine is a natural substance in our body. Humans are normally able to produce uridine, but the ability to do so requires intact mitochondria. NV: How does Uridine reduce mitochondrial toxicity caused by nucleosides? UAW: Our current research supports the following concept: One class of anti-HIV drugs are the so called " nucleoside reverse transcriptase inhibitors " (NRTIs). As the name implies, the NRTIs are themselves nucleosides ( " nukes " ). The NRTIs are " bad nukes " , as they are toxic to mitochondria. This is because they inhibit gamma polymerase, an enzyme that is essential for the replication of mitochondrial DNA. As a consequence, the levels of mitochondrial DNA in mitochondria decline. Mitochondrial DNA however is necessary for the proper function of the respiratory chain (this is were we " breathe internally, " consume oxygen and make ATP as the energy for our body. Another consequence of respiratory chain dysfunction is that the body cannot make uridine and other natural nucleosides (the " good nukes " ). Therefore, the NRTI-nucleosides ( " the bad nukes " ) are more abundant in relation to the natural nucleosides ( " the good nukes " ) at gamma polymerase. This excess of the bad nukes makes mitochondrial function even worse, because a vicious circle is closed. Uridine replenishes the good nukes and therefore abolishes this vicious circle. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 >And yes, glutamine is also excellent! However, for the brain, I would think N-Acetyl-Carnitine would be better! There is a lot of evidence for NAC on Dr. Murray's site. I would also suggest the book Depression Free for Life by Dr. Gabriel Cousens. It goes into depth explaining the different types of depression (i.e. serotonin deficiency, dopamine deficiency, etc.) and clues to figure out which type you have. In addition, Dr. Cousens explains how different amino acids work to help balance these specific deficiencies. -Poppy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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