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Proteinuria is a condition in which urine contains an " excess " amount of

protein.

 

Proteinuria is often one of the first signs of renal disease and is

often asymptomatic. Proteinuria is a finding in almost every form of

glomerular disease.

 

Protein Handling in Normal Kidneys

In a healthy kidney, the glomerular capillary wall acts as a barrier to

prevent proteins from entering the urine based on size and electrical

charge of the proteins. This is dependent on the integrity of the

capillary wall.

 

The glomerular capillary wall consists of three layers: the fenestrated

endothelium, the glomerular basement membrane, and the epithelial cells

attached to the glomerular basement membrane.

 

The primary barrier to the filtration of protein is the glomerular

basement membrane. (1)

 

If the glomerulus is intact, only trace amounts of albumin escape in the

glomerular filtrate. Proteins that are smaller than albumin (< 68,000

daltons) are filtered and reabsorbed by the proximal tubule.

 

In most circumstances, up to 1500 mg of protein is filtered every 24

hours. Most of this is reabsorbed by the proximal tubule, where the

protein undergoes catabolism.

 

As a result, as much as 150 mg of protein is excreted daily in the

urine. Tubular proteinuria occurs when the proximal tubule is damaged

and interferes

with the reabsorption of protein. (2)

 

In glomerular injury, the size and the charge-selective barriers of the

glomerular capillary wall may be altered. The glomerular capillary wall

normally has a fixed negative charge. This allows the wall to repel

negatively charged plasma proteins.

 

(2) In normal kidneys, low molecular-weight proteins and small amounts

of albumin are filtered. These proteins are reabsorbed by the proximal

tubule and are catabolized. This results in a daily protein excretion of

approximately 40-80 mg. (1)

 

Definition and Measurement of Proteinuria

Proteinuria is described as urinary excretion of more than 150 mg of

protein in a 24-hour period. Presence or absence of proteinuria is

usually first detected by dipstick evaluation of urine. A dipstick

reading is normally read as zero to 4+. This corresponds to

concentrations of zero to more than 500mg/dL of protein. A more accurate

quantitative result of protein is obtained with a 24-hour urine

collection. In most situations, the results of the dipstick will

correlate fairly well with the quantitative urine collection.

 

The dipstick method, however, is most sensitive to albumin, where the

quantitative method detects all proteins.

 

The dipstick may be negative when low molecular-weight proteins, and

not albumin, are present in the urine. This can occur in some tubular

diseases where the proximal tubule catabolism of filtered protein is

impaired.

 

It can also happen in diseases where there is excessive production and

filtration of low-molecular-weight proteins, exceeding the proximal

tubule's ability to catabolize filtered proteins.

 

An important clinical example of this is multiple myeloma, where the

urine might contain large amounts of protein detected by quantitative

measurement, but test as negative or only trace positive by urine

dipstick. (1)

 

Laboratory evaluation of proteinuria first quantifies the amount of

protein being excreted. Generally, if the amount is found to be > 3

gm/day, it is almost always of glomerular origin.

 

Proteinuria < 3 gm/day is nondiagnostic. This could represent a

pre-renal, tubular or glormerular origin. If the origin is unclear, the

next step is to evaluate by urine protein electrophoresis. If the

protein is found to be >70% albumin, the source is glomerular.

 

A tubular source will cause excretion of globulins more than albumin. A

pre-renal source usually has a single globulin peak, which represents

the protein with the highest plasma concentration. (1)

 

Microalbuminuria

Microalbuminuria is defined as daily urinary albumin excretion of 30 -

300 mg/day. Diseases such as diabetes and essential hypertension can

manifest microalbuminuria. This level of albumin excretion is above the

normal range, yet is undetectable by dipstick.

 

Microalbuminuria is thought to be the earliest sign of nephropathy in

diabetes mellitus, and is a good predictor of cardiovascular risk in

diabetes and hypertension.

 

Microalbuminuria can only be detected using sensitive laboratory

techniques, and only when specifically requested. It is recommended that

patients with diabetes mellitus undergo yearly screening for

microalbuminuria. (1)

 

Mechanisms of Proteinuria

Proteinuria can be classified according to four major mechanisms:

 

Functional proteinuria

Overproduction or prerenal proteinuria

Glomerular proteinuria

Tubular proteinuria

Functional proteinuria.

 

Functional proteinuria describes a transient increase in protein

excretion. This can sometimes occur without the presence of renal

disease. Fever, emotional or physical stress, and acute illness can

cause significant, but transient, increases in urinary protein

excretion.

 

Urinary protein excretion is increased two-to three-fold after periods

of heavy exercise.

 

The mechanism for this type of proteinuria most likely relates to

changes in the glomerular pore size rather than alterations in the

glomerular basement membrane. (1)

 

Orthostatic proteinuria is another benign condition. This refers to

abnormally elevated protein excretion in the upright position, but

normal excretion in a recumbent position. This condition is found in

2-5% of adolescents, but rarely noted in persons 30 years of age or

older. (1)

 

Overproduction or prerenal proteinuria.

Overproduction or pre-renal proteinuria occurs with the existence of an

increased plasma concentration of one or more filterable proteins.

This increases the filtered protein load, thereby increasing excretion.

There may be due to increased excretion of heavy chains, light chains or

other immunoglobulin fragments. (1)

 

Glomerular proteinuria.

Glomerular loss of proteins can result from many different mechanisms.

The three most common are:

 

Loss of the negative charges of the glomerular basement membrane

An increase in effective pore size or number due to damage to the

glomerular basement membrane

 

Disease-related changes in glomerular hemodynamics.

All glomerular diseases fall into this category.

 

Some examples are focal glomerulonephritis, post streptococcal

glomerulonephritis, minimal change disease, focal sclerosis, membranous

glomerulonephritis, and diabetic nephropathy. (1)

 

Tabular proteinuria.

The fourth classification of proteinuria is tubular proteinuria. This

occurs when there is impaired tubular reabsorption of normally filtered

proteins.

 

This area includes some hereditary diseases such as Wilson disease, and

some toxic injuries such as lead poisoning. (1)

 

Populations at Risk for Proteinuria

People with diabetes, hypertension and family history of renal disease

may be at risk for proteinuria. In the United States, diabetes is the

leading cause of renal failure.

 

In diabetic patients, the first sign of deteriorating kidney function

may be the presence of small amounts of protein in the urine.

 

As kidney function deteriorates, the amount of protein increases.

 

African Americans are more likely than Caucasian Americans to have

hypertension and develop kidney problems from it. Other groups at risk

for proteinuria are American Indians, Hispanics, Pacific Islanders, the

elderly, and the obese. (5)

 

Common Causes of Proteinuria

 

Primary glomerular disorders:

Orthostatic or postural proteinuria

Membranous glomerulonephritis

Idiopathic membranoproliferative glomerulonephritis

Focal segmental glomerulonephritis

IgA nephropathy

Minimal change disease

Proliferative glomerulonephritis

 

Secondary disorders:

Hereditary/familial: diabetes mellitus, Alport syndrome, sickle cell

disease

Autoimmune: systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE), Goodpasture's syndrome,

Wegener's granulomatosis, polyarteritis nodosa, rheumatoid arthritis

Infectious: postinfectious glomerulonephritis, endocarditis, hepatitis B

 

Drug-induced: non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, heroin, gold,

mercury

Neoplastic: Hodgkin's disease, lymphomas, leukemia, multiple myeloma

Miscellaneous: amyloidosis, pre-eclampsia / eclampsia, renovascular

hypertension, interstitial nephritis, fever, exercise (2)

 

Symptoms of Proteinuria

Proteinuria is usually detected initially on routine urinalysis or

dipstick. Often it is an unexpected finding. Patients may be completely

asymptomatic, or may have many symptoms depending on the magnitude of

the proteinuria and/or the level of renal function. Nephrotic syndrome

is characterized by protein excretion of greater than 3.5 grams/day.

 

Classic presentation of nephrotic syndrome includes edema, hypertension,

hypoalbuminemia, and hypercholesterolemia.

 

Patients with glomerulonephritis may be asymptomatic or have hematuria,

edema of new onset, or pulmonary symptoms. (3)

 

Complications of Proteinuria

Proteins are essential for all body processes. Excessive loss of

proteins can damage different systems resulting in diverse

complications. Some clinical complications are as follows:

 

Hypoalbuminemia

Edema

Increased hepatic lipoprotein synthesis

Increased platelet aggregability

Increased tubular protein reabsorption

Possible tubular dysfunction

Tubular damage

Loss of proteins carrying vitamins, hormones and minerals

Trace mineral deficiencies

Vitamin D deficiency

Loss of immunoglobulins

Reduced cellular immunity

Increased susceptibility to infection

Alterations in coagulation factors

Spontaneous thromboembolism

Renal vein thrombosis

Negative nitrogen balance

Malnutrition

Alteration in drug metabolism (1)

Hypocalcemia

 

 

Management of Proteinuria

Successful treatment of the underlying glomerular disease is the primary

goal of therapy. Some forms of glomerular disease have no specific

treatment and others are not always successfully treated.

 

In some cases the presence of severe proteinuria necessitates therapy

to reduce the protein excretion specifically.

 

Dietary restriction of protein,

the use of angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitors and non-steroidal

anti-inflammatory drugs may be effective in some cases. (1)

 

Dietary protein restriction may lower proteinuria in some, though not

all, patients.

 

The lowest allowable protein restriction is 0.6g/kg/day plus protein

added to match urinary losses. This therapy may also help slow the

progression of renal disease,

but should only be used in close collaboration with a renal dietician

in order to avoid problems with negative nitrogen balance. (1)

 

Angiotension-converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitors have also proven to be

useful in some cases of proteinuria. While reduction of the blood

pressure with any agent is of some use, ACE inhibitors seem to be the

most consistently effective with regards to renal disease and

proteinuria. They reduce protein by lowering efferent arteriolar

resistance. Other mechanisms may also be involved, including a direct

affect on glomerular permselectivity. For maximum benefit, ACE

inhibitors should be used in conjunction with diuretic therapy and a low

sodium diet.

 

Close follow-up is required in patients with moderate to severe renal

insufficiency, since ACE inhibitors could cause a rise in the patient's

serum creatinine,

rise in potassium levels, and acute renal failure. (1)

 

Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory medications in high doses may also be

useful in the treatment of proteinuria. These drugs have a tendency to

reduce the glomerular filtration rate. They can only be used, however,

when the glomerular filtration rate is not severely impaired to avoid

the risks of hyperkalemia and acute renal failure.

 

These medications also have a high incidence of gastrointestinal side

effects, especially in high doses, therefore are not used as frequently

as the other treatments discussed. (1)

 

Patients with nephrotic syndrome generally require the most aggressive

management to minimize complications such as edema, ascites and

hypercoaguable state.

 

Nephrotic syndrome is characterized by severe proteinuria of more than

3.5gms/day.

 

Edema can be defined as an excess of fluid within the interstitial or

nonvascular extracellular space that is detectable by visual or other

clinical means. Edema is usually found in the lower extremities, but can

also be found periorbital, sacral, fingers, lungs or within a body

cavity such as abdominal ascities. (4)

 

The protein loss in nephrotic syndrome patients is managed with dietary

restriction of protein,

 

ACE inhibitors and possibly non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs. The

patient's peripheral edema is managed by dietary salt restriction.

 

Gentle diuresis is indicated for severe edema, especially if there is

skin breakdown or weeping. (2)

 

Severe nephrotic syndrome predisposes to thrombus due to the loss of

hemostasis control proteins such as anti-thrombin, protein S and protein

C.

 

This hypercoagulable state can lead to renal vein thrombosis as well as

deep vein thrombosis of the lower extremities especially in patients

with sedentary lifestyles. (2)

 

Hyperlipidemia is also common in patients with nephrotic syndrome.

 

Elevated cholesterol and triglyceride levels place the patient at high

risk for cardiovascular disease due to accelerated atherosclerosis.

 

Dietary management should be instituted when the serum cholesterol

exceeds 200 mg/dL, or the triglyceride level exceeds 300 mg/dL. Lipid

lowering agents as well as dietary interventions may be necessary. (2)

 

Nutritional Management of Proteinuria

Nephrotic range proteinuria or nephrotic syndrome is characterized by

excessively high rates of protein excretion.

An increase in dietary protein would stimulate albumin synthesis, but

may also increase glomerular permeability. That would result in a

urinary loss of the albumin that was synthesized.

 

Therefore, current recommendations are for a dietary intake of 0.8 to 1

gram/kg/day of protein in patients with normal serum creatinine levels.

There are some exceptions to this. In patients with good renal function

who have more than 15 grams of protein excretion daily, develop protein

calorie malnutrition, or receive high doses of corticosteroids, as trial

period of moderately increased protein intake might be recommended. (6)

 

Caloric intake for patients with nephrotic syndrome should be calculated

according to the individual needs of the patient using a nutritional

assessment and screening tool. It is important to avoid insufficient

calorie intake in these patients, since this might result in catabolism

of lean tissue. Weight reduction in this population should be approached

cautiously and closely monitored.

 

(6) Another common characteristic of patients with nephrotic syndrome is

hyperlipidemia. Elevated serum lipid levels are thought to be due to

increases in lipoprotein production. Serum albumin levels are typically

inversely related to serum lipid concentrations.

 

Dietary treatment of hyperlipidemia in patients with nephrotic syndrome

is a secondary goal. (6)

 

Summary

Proteinuria is described as urinary protein excretion greater than 150

mg/24-hours. Nephrotic range proteinuria is an excretion of greater than

3.5 gm/24-hours. The etiology of proteinuria is diverse. It may reflect

renal manifestations of a systemic disease or a primary renal disease.

It may also occur without a recognized disease process. Four recognized

classifications of proteinuria are functional, overproduction or

pre-renal, glomerular, and tubular.

 

The objective of initial evaluation of proteinuria is to identify the

quantity, type, and reproducibility of the protein. Treatment options

vary according to the underlying disease process.

 

Case Study

Sally A. is a 53 year-old female marketing director. She presents for

consult with the following laboratory results and symptoms:

 

Serum creatinine level of 1.9

Serum albumin of 2.6

Cholesterol level of 303

24-hour urine protein of 8 gm/ 24 hours

3+ edema bilateral lower extremities to knees

Blood pressure of 154/96

Claims a weight loss of 12 pounds in past two months

 

Take the Test

References

Anderson, S. Proteinuria. In: Greenburg, A. editor. Primer On Kidney

Diseases (2nd edition). Boston: National Kidney Foundation; Academic

Press. 1998. p. 42-46.

 

Mars, D. R. Proteinuria and the Nephrotic Syndrome. In: Tisher, C.C. &

Wilcox, C.S. editors. Nephrology (2nd edition). Philadelphia: Williams &

Wilkins; 1993. p. 20-26.

 

Cooper, M. Proteinuria. In: Fihn, S.D. & DeWitt, D.E. editors.

Outpatient Medicine. Philadelphia: W. B. Saunders Company; 1998. p.

607-610.

 

Levy, M. Edematous States and Hepatorenal Syndrome. In: Levine, D.Z.

editor. Caring For The Renal Patient (3rd edition). Philadelphia: W.B.

Saunders Company; 1997. p. 126-127.

 

National Kidney and Urologic Diseases Information Clearinghouse.

Updated: December, 2000. (cited 2001, Jan 20), Available from: URL;

http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health/kidney/bups/protienuria/proteinuria.htm

 

Nelson, J. K., Moxness, K. E., Jensen, M. D., & Gastineau, C. F. Mayo

Clinic Diet Manual: A Handbook of Nutritional Practices (7th edition).

Boston: Mosby. 1994. p. 333 - 334.

 

 

 

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Cause details for Proteinuria: As blood passes through healthy kidneys,

they filter the waste products out and leave in the things the body

needs, like proteins.

 

Most proteins are too big to pass through the kidneys' filters into the

urine, unless the kidneys are damaged.

 

The two proteins that are most likely to appear in urine are albumin and

globulin. Albumin is smaller and therefore more likely to escape through

the filters of the kidney, called glomeruli.

 

Albumin's function in the body includes retention of fluid in the

blood. It acts like a sponge, soaking up fluid from body tissues.

 

Inflammation in the glomeruli is called glomerulonephritis, or simply

nephritis.

 

Many diseases can cause this inflammation, which leads to proteinuria.

Additional processes that can damage the glomeruli and cause proteinuria

include diabetes, hypertension, and other forms of kidney diseases. 1

 

In some cases, prostatitis is caused by bacterial infection and can be

treated with antibiotics. But the more common forms of prostatitis are

not associated with any known infecting organism.2

 

Underlying condition causes of Proteinuria:

 

The list of possible underlying conditions (see also Misdiagnosis of

underlying causes of Proteinuria) mentioned in various sources as

possible causes of Proteinuria includes:

 

Kidney disease

Kidney conditions

High blood pressure

Hypertension-related kidney failure

Proteinuria as a symptom: Conditions listing Proteinuria as a symptom

may also be potential underlying causes of Proteinuria. The list of

conditions listing Proteinuria as a symptom in our database includes:

 

Acute kidney failure

Childhood nephrotic syndrome

Diabetic Nephropathy

Eclampsia

Glomerulonephritis

Kidney conditions

Kidney disease

Lupus

Nephrotic syndrome

Preeclampsia

Primary amyloidosis

Typhoid fever

Related information for causes of Proteinuria: Further relevant

information on causes of Proteinuria may be found in the risk factors

for Proteinuria and underlying causes of Proteinuria.

 

Footnotes:

1. excerpt from Proteinuria: NIDDK

2. excerpt from Your Urinary System and How It Works: NIDDK

 

 

 

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Articles

 

Proteinuria Predicts Stroke and Other Atherosclerotic Vascular Disease

Events in Nondiabetic and Non–Insulin-Dependent Diabetic Subjects

 

 

Heikki Miettinen, MD; Steven M. Haffner, MD; Seppo Lehto, MD; Tapani

Ronnemaa, MD; Kalevi Pyorala, MD; Markku Laakso, MD

 

the Department of Medicine, University of Kuopio (H.M., S.L., K.P.,

M.L.), the Department of Medicine, University of Turku (T.R.), and the

Research and Development Centre, Social Insurance Institution, Turku

(T.R.), Finland; and the Department of Medicine, Division of Clinical

Epidemiology, University of Texas Health Science Center (San Antonio)

(H.M., S.M.H.).

 

 

Correspondence to Heikki Miettinen, MD, University of Texas Health

Science Center at San Antonio, Department of Medicine, Division of

Clinical Epidemiology, 7703 Floyd Curl Dr, San Antonio, TX 78284-7873.

E-mail miet-. Reprint requests to Markku Laakso, MD,

University of Kuopio, Department of Medicine, PO Box 1627, 70211 Kuopio,

Finland.

 

 

Abstract

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Abstract

Introduction

Subjects and Methods

Results

Discussion

References

 

 

Background and Purpose Increased urinary albumin and protein excretion

is associated with cardiovascular disease mortality independent of other

cardiovascular risk factors in subjects with non–insulin-dependent

diabetes mellitus (NIDDM).

 

We assessed the relationship between the different degrees of

proteinuria at baseline and the incidence of stroke, as well as other

atherosclerotic vascular disease events, in a prospective study of

nondiabetic and NIDDM subjects.

 

Methods Our study was based on the 7-year follow-up of cohorts of

nondiabetic (n=1375) and NIDDM (n=1056) subjects in Finland. The urinary

protein concentration at baseline was stratified into three categories:

no proteinuria (<150 mg/L), borderline (150 to 300 mg/L), and clinical

proteinuria (>300 mg/L).

 

Results The association between the different degrees of proteinuria and

the atherosclerotic vascular events was similar in nondiabetic and NIDDM

subjects. Cardiovascular disease mortality was higher both in

nondiabetic and NIDDM subjects with clinical proteinuria than in those

without proteinuria. The incidence of stroke was 1.6% in nondiabetic

subjects without proteinuria, 3.2% in subjects with borderline

proteinuria, and 8.5% in subjects with clinical proteinuria (P<.001 for

trend).

 

In NIDDM patients, the corresponding rates were 7.2%, 11.1%, and 23.0%,

respectively (P<.001 for trend). The association between clinical

proteinuria and the incidence of stroke remained significant both in

nondiabetic and in NIDDM subjects after adjustment for other

cardiovascular risk factors.

 

Clinical proteinuria was also associated with the incidence of coronary

heart disease events and that of lower-extremity amputation. NIDDM

independently increased the risk of atherosclerotic vascular disease

events regardless of the proteinuria status.

 

Conclusions Clinical proteinuria significantly predicted stroke and

other atherosclerotic vascular disease events independent of other

cardiovascular risk factors. This finding is compatible with the view

that increased urinary protein excretion rate may be associated with

widespread vascular damage.

 

 

Key Words: atherosclerosis • coronary heart disease • diabetes mellitus

• mortality • proteinuria

 

 

Introduction

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Abstract

Introduction

Subjects and Methods

Results

Discussion

References

 

 

It is well established that the incidences of atherosclerotic vascular

diseases such as CHD, stroke, and arterial disease of lower extremities

are higher in patients with NIDDM than in nondiabetic subjects,1 which

is only in part explained by the adverse effects of diabetes on the

classic cardiovascular risk factors.1 The risk of CVD death has been

found to be associated with an increased urinary albumin and protein

excretion rate independent of classic cardiovascular risk factors in

patients with NIDDM2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 and nondiabetic subjects.5 11 12

 

The mechanisms of the association between albuminuria and increased CVD

risk are poorly understood, and several explanations have been proposed.

Increased urinary albumin excretion may be associated with adverse

changes in cardiovascular risk factors,4 13 14 15 16 or alternatively,

it may be a marker of widespread vascular damage,17 endothelial

dysfunction enhancing atherogenesis,18 19 or a marker of CVD itself.16

 

Although the relationship between microalbuminuria and CVD mortality is

well established in patients with NIDDM, less is known about the

association between clinical proteinuria and the incidence of

atherosclerotic vascular disease events, particularly in nondiabetic

subjects. In particular, very few data are available regarding the

relationship between proteinuria and stroke or peripheral arterial

disease.20 21

 

The purpose of our study was to assess the relationship between

different degrees of proteinuria at baseline and atherosclerotic

vascular disease events during the 7-year follow-up of population-based

cohorts of nondiabetic and NIDDM subjects. If the relationship between

proteinuria and atherosclerotic vascular disease events is independent

of conventional cardiovascular risk factors, the hypothesis that

proteinuria is an indicator of underlying vascular damage is

strengthened.

We also analyzed the association between increased urinary protein

concentration and non-CVD mortality because recently published

observations suggest that proteinuria may also be related to non-CVD

mortality in NIDDM patients.8 10

 

 

Subjects and Methods

Top

Abstract

Introduction

Subjects and Methods

Results

Discussion

References

 

 

Patients With NIDDM

All diabetic patients in Finland who need drug therapy receive it free

of charge according to the Sickness Insurance Act. These subjects are

registered in a computerized central registry maintained by the Social

Insurance Institution. On the basis of information from this registry,

we identified all diabetic patients aged 45 to 64 years who were born

and living in the Kuopio University Hospital district in East Finland or

in the Turku University Central Hospital district in West Finland. The

formation of this patient population consisting of 510 diabetic patients

in East Finland (participation rate, 89%) and 549 patients in West

Finland (participation rate, 79%) has been described in detail

previously.22 23 Insulin-dependent diabetes was excluded in all patients

treated with insulin by C-peptide measurements as previously

described.24 None of the diabetic patients in the final study population

classified as having NIDDM according to the WHO criteria25 had a history

of ketoacidosis. For the purposes of this article, three NIDDM patients

with serum creatinine higher than 200 mmol/L were excluded. The final

study group included 252 diabetic men and 257 women in East Finland and

328 diabetic men and 219 women in West Finland.

 

Nondiabetic Subjects

A random control population sample of subjects whose place of birth was

in the Kuopio University Hospital district or in the Turku University

Central Hospital district and who were living in these areas was taken

from the population registry containing all subjects aged 45 to 64

years. The study population consisted of 651 (participation rate, 79%)

East Finland and 730 (participation rate, 85%) West Finland nondiabetic

control subjects. After the exclusion of 10 nondiabetic subjects with

serum creatinine higher than 200 mmol/L, the final nondiabetic study

group included 312 nondiabetic men and 336 nondiabetic women in East

Finland and 328 nondiabetic men and 399 nondiabetic women in West

Finland.

 

Study Methods

The baseline examination of nondiabetic and NIDDM subjects was carried

out from 1982 through 1984. The examination included an interview on

previous medical history, history of smoking, and use of drugs, as well

as the drawing of blood samples for laboratory examinations and

measurements of height, weight, and blood pressure.

 

All medical records of subjects who reported in the interview that they

had been admitted to the hospital because of symptoms suggestive of

stroke or MI were reviewed by two experienced internists (M.L. in Kuopio

and T.R. in Turku). The WHO criteria for verified definite or possible

stroke were used in the ascertainment of the diagnosis of previous

stroke, which was defined as a clinical syndrome consisting of definite

neurological symptoms persisting for more than 24 hours.26

Thromboembolic and hemorrhagic stroke, but not subarachnoid hemorrhage,

were included in the diagnosis of stroke. The modified WHO MONICA

criteria for verified definite or possible MI based on chest pain

symptoms, electrocardiographic changes, and enzyme determinations were

used in the ascertainment of the diagnosis of previous MI.27 Subjects

were classified as having hypertension if they were receiving drug

treatment for hypertension or if systolic blood pressure was 160 mm Hg

or diastolic blood pressure was 95 mm Hg measured in the sitting

position after a 5-minute rest.

 

Serum lipids were determined from fresh serum samples drawn after a

12-hour overnight fast. Serum total cholesterol and triglyceride levels

were determined enzymatically (Boehringer Mannheim GmbH). Serum HDL

cholesterol was determined directly after precipitation of

apolipoprotein B–containing lipoproteins with dextran sulfate and

magnesium chloride. Apolipoproteins A1 and B were determined by

radioimmunoassay. HbA1 was estimated by ion exchange affinity

chromatography (Isolab Inc; reference range, 5.5% to 8.5%). Plasma

glucose was determined with the glucose oxidase method (Boehringer).

 

Total urinary protein concentration was measured from the morning spot

urine specimen with the Coomassie brilliant blue method (Bio-Rad

Laboratories). For the purposes of this study, the subjects were

classified into three categories according to the degree of proteinuria:

no proteinuria (<150 mg/L), borderline proteinuria (150 to 299 mg/L),

and clinical proteinuria (300 mg/L).

 

Collection of Follow-up Data

In 1990, a postal questionnaire containing questions about the

hospitalization due to stroke, acute chest pain, or lower-extremity

amputation was sent to every surviving patient of the original study.

All medical records of the subjects who reported in the questionnaire

that they had been admitted to the hospital because of stroke, chest

pain symptoms, or amputation were reviewed. To complete the end point

data collection and review of medical records, we used computerized

hospital discharge registers to identify the hospitalizations due to

stroke, CHD, and amputation for those participants who did not respond

to the questionnaire, as well as the hospitalizations of those

participants who had died between the baseline examination and December

31, 1989. Copies of death certificates of subjects who had died were

obtained from the Central Statistical Office of Finland. In the final

classification of the causes of death, hospital and autopsy records were

also used if available. In the ascertainment of the diagnosis of stroke

we used the WHO MONICA criteria for verified definite or possible

stroke.26 Thromboembolic and hemorrhagic stroke, but not subarachnoid

hemorrhage, were included in the diagnosis of stroke. In the

ascertainment of the diagnosis of MI, the modified WHO MONICA criteria

for verified definite or possible MI were used.27 Lower-extremity

amputations due to trauma and other nonvascular causes were excluded.

 

Statistical Methods

Statistical analyses were conducted with the SAS program, version

6.10.28 Differences between the groups were assessed by 2 test or ANCOVA

by using age, sex, and area as covariates. Because of skewed

distribution, triglyceride values were log transformed for statistical

analyses. Stratified analyses by using the median split for different

variables were performed by 2 test. For these analyses, subjects with

borderline and clinical proteinuria were combined into one class.

Interaction between urinary protein and each stratification variable was

tested with the test of homogeneity. The associations between the

different stages of proteinuria and stroke, serious CHD events (CHD

death or nonfatal MI), and amputation were studied with multiple

logistic regression analysis. Kaplan-Meier estimates for the survival

curves for each level of the urinary protein concentration were obtained

and compared using the log-rank test. Kaplan-Meier estimates for serious

CHD events were not analyzed because the dates of the first nonfatal CHD

events were not available. We also performed Cox regression analysis for

fatal events. The results, however, were similar to those obtained by

multiple logistic regression, and only the results of logistic

regression analyses are presented.

 

This study was approved by the ethics committees of Kuopio University

Hospital and Turku University Central Hospital.

 

 

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Results

Discussion

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Baseline Characteristics

Elevated urinary protein excretion (borderline and clinical proteinuria

together) was found in East Finland in 25% of nondiabetic and 58% of

NIDDM subjects and in West Finland in 16% of nondiabetic and 46% of

NIDDM subjects. Borderline and clinical proteinuria were more common in

East Finland than in West Finland and also in men than in women. NIDDM

patients with borderline or clinical proteinuria were slightly older

than NIDDM patients without proteinuria (mean±SEM, 58.6±0.2 versus

57.6±0.2 years, P<.01).

 

Table 1 presents clinical characteristics of nondiabetic and NIDDM

subjects by the degree of proteinuria at baseline adjusted for age, sex,

and area. The prevalence of hypertension was higher both in nondiabetic

and NIDDM subjects with borderline or clinical proteinuria than in

subjects without proteinuria. Previous MI at baseline was more common in

NIDDM patients with clinical proteinuria than in those without

proteinuria or with borderline proteinuria. In nondiabetic subjects, the

prevalence of previous MI was similar regardless of the degree of

proteinuria. The lipid profile in NIDDM patients with borderline or

clinical proteinuria tended to be worse than in patients without

proteinuria. Total cholesterol and triglyceride levels in NIDDM patients

with proteinuria were higher, and HDL cholesterol levels lower, than in

patients without proteinuria. In nondiabetic subjects, we found no

difference in total or HDL cholesterol levels between different

categories of proteinuria. The degree of proteinuria was not

significantly associated with the duration of diabetes, but it was

highly significantly related to poor metabolic control of diabetes

measured either as fasting plasma glucose level or glycosylated

hemoglobin.

 

 

 

 

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Table 1. Characteristics of Nondiabetic and Diabetic Subjects by

Different Degrees of Proteinuria at Baseline Adjusted for Study Area,

Age, and Sex

 

 

 

Proteinuria and Mortality

Fig 1 shows the survival curves for all-cause mortality in three

proteinuria categories in nondiabetic and NIDDM subjects. All-cause

mortality was higher both in nondiabetic and NIDDM subjects with

borderline or clinical proteinuria than in those without proteinuria.

 

 

 

 

 

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Figure 1. Survival curves for all-cause mortality by urinary protein

concentration (U-Prot) in NIDDM and nondiabetic patients.

 

 

 

The mortality from CVD in NIDDM patients with clinical proteinuria was

significantly higher than in patients with borderline proteinuria or

without proteinuria (Fig 2). The CVD mortality of NIDDM patients with

borderline proteinuria was also significantly higher than in NIDDM

patients without proteinuria. CVD mortality tended also to be higher in

nondiabetic subjects with borderline or clinical proteinuria than in

those without proteinuria. However, the differences between the groups

were smaller than in NIDDM patients. The results of the survival

analysis for CHD mortality were similar to those for total CVD mortality

(data not shown).

 

 

 

 

 

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Figure 2. Survival curves for CVD mortality by urinary protein

concentration (U-Prot) in NIDDM and nondiabetic patients.

 

 

 

In NIDDM patients with borderline or clinical proteinuria, the non-CVD

mortality was higher than in those without proteinuria (data not shown).

In nondiabetic subjects, we found no statistically significant

differences in mortality from non-CVD among different proteinuria

groups. The most important causes for non-CVD deaths (n=97) in NIDDM

patients were neoplasms (41%), diabetes and its complications (25%),

gastrointestinal and liver diseases (15%), and traumas (6%). In

nondiabetic subjects, the most important reasons for non-CVD deaths

(n=43) were neoplasms (56%), traumas (23%), and gastrointestinal and

liver diseases (12%).

 

Proteinuria and Incidence of Stroke and Other Atherosclerotic Vascular

Disease Events

During the 7-year follow-up, 376 NIDDM patients (36%) and 84 nondiabetic

subjects (6.1%) developed an atherosclerotic vascular disease event. The

corresponding numbers for stroke were 125 (12%) and 30 (2%) and for

serious CHD events 255 (24%) and 57 (4%), respectively. There were no

amputations in nondiabetic subjects, but in 58 of the NIDDM patients

(10%) a lower-extremity amputation was performed during the 7-year

follow-up. The incidence of atherosclerotic vascular disease events

during the follow-up was almost two times higher in NIDDM patients with

clinical proteinuria than in those without proteinuria (Fig 3). The

incidence of atherosclerotic vascular disease events increased stepwise

with the degree of proteinuria in both nondiabetic and NIDDM subjects. A

similar stepwise trend was found between proteinuria and stroke and CHD

events both in NIDDM and nondiabetic subjects, as well as between

proteinuria and amputation in NIDDM patients.

 

 

 

 

 

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Figure 3. Incidence of CHD events (CHD death or nonfatal MI), stroke,

lower-extremity amputation, and all atherosclerotic vascular disease

(ASVD) events (any one of the three previous categories of events) in

nondiabetic or NIDDM subjects by urinary protein concentration (U-Prot),

both areas and sexes combined (probability values for trends as shown).

 

 

 

Table 2 shows the results of multivariate logistic regression analyses

for the association between proteinuria and stroke, CHD events, and

lower-extremity amputation comparing borderline or clinical proteinuria

separately with the group without proteinuria. The strength of the

association between borderline proteinuria and stroke as indicated by

the odds ratios was similar in nondiabetic and NIDDM subjects. However,

this association was not statistically significant. The association of

clinical proteinuria with stroke was stronger than that of borderline

proteinuria with stroke, and the strength of the association did not

differ in nondiabetic and NIDDM subjects.

 

 

 

 

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Table 2. Adjusted Odds Ratios and 95% Confidence Intervals for

Borderline (150-300 mg/L) or Clinical (>300 mg/L) Proteinuria With

Regard to CHD Events, Stroke, Amputation, and All Atherosclerotic

Vascular Events Obtained Using Different Models in Logistic Regression

Analysis in Nondiabetic and NIDDM Subjects

 

 

 

The association between borderline proteinuria and CHD events both in

nondiabetic and NIDDM subjects was similar to that between borderline

proteinuria and stroke (Table 2). However, the association between

clinical proteinuria and stroke was even stronger than that between

clinical proteinuria and CHD events. When analyses were restricted only

to subjects without a previous history of MI at baseline, the strength

of the association between proteinuria and CHD events did not change

(odds ratios for clinical proteinuria versus group without proteinuria

were 2.04 to 2.61 in nondiabetic subjects and 1.92 to 2.27 in NIDDM

patients). Further adjustment for apolipoproteins A1 and B did not

change the results of multivariate logistic regression analysis (data

not shown).

 

Furthermore, we found an association between proteinuria and

lower-extremity amputation in NIDDM patients similar to the associations

between proteinuria and stroke or proteinuria and CHD events (Table 2).

 

 

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We have shown for the first time in the same prospective study that

clinical proteinuria predicts the incidence of stroke, as well as

serious CHD events (CHD death or nonfatal MI), both in nondiabetic and

NIDDM subjects and the incidence of lower-extremity amputation in NIDDM

patients. Furthermore, both the all-cause and CVD mortality were higher

in nondiabetic and NIDDM subjects with clinical proteinuria (>300 mg/L)

than in those without proteinuria. NIDDM independently increased the

risk of atherosclerotic vascular disease events regardless of

proteinuria status. Nevertheless, the association between the different

degrees of proteinuria and the risk of stroke, CHD events, or

lower-extremity amputation was stepwise and basically similar in

nondiabetic and NIDDM subjects. The association of clinical proteinuria

with the risk of stroke, as well as with the risk of CHD events or

amputation, was independent of other cardiovascular risk factors in

NIDDM patients.

 

The risk of ischemic stroke is undoubtedly higher in diabetic patients

than in nondiabetic subjects.1 23 29 30 31 32 33 Hypertension is the

strongest risk factor for stroke both in nondiabetic and diabetic

subjects.31 34 Only a few studies have been published previously

regarding the association between proteinuria and the risk of stroke. In

Japanese and European prospective studies on diabetic patients,

proteinuria predicted cerebrovascular diseases during the follow-up.20

21 On the other hand, Gall et al,8 in their study based on 5-year

follow-up of NIDDM patients, found no significant relationship between

baseline albuminuria and the mortality from stroke. However, their study

included only very few subjects who developed stroke.

 

Our findings showing that clinical proteinuria predicts all-cause and

CVD mortality are compatible with those of previous studies suggesting

that increased urinary albumin2 3 4 7 8 35 36 or protein9 10 excretion

is associated with increased mortality. Several studies have shown that

the mortality risk is 2.3 to 4 times higher in NIDDM patients with

microalbuminuria than in those without microalbuminuria.2 3 35 36

However, Mattock et al4 reported recently that the mortality risk in

NIDDM patients with microalbuminuria was almost 10 times higher than in

NIDDM patients without albuminuria. In these studies, CVD has been the

most important cause of death.3 4 36 Gall et al8 reported recently the

results of a prospective 5-year follow-up study in which the risk of

cardiovascular death was 2.5-fold in NIDDM patients with

macroalbuminuria (300 mg/24 h) but not in those with microalbuminuria

(30 to 299 mg/24 h).

 

Less is known about the association of albuminuria or proteinuria and

all-cause or CVD mortality in nondiabetic subjects. In prospective

studies, microalbuminuria has predicted both total and CVD mortality,3 5

11 12 in some studies independent of other cardiovascular risk factors.5

12 Our results also showed that adjustment for other cardiovascular risk

factors and apolipoproteins does not markedly alter the odds ratios for

proteinuria with regard to different manifestations of atherosclerotic

vascular disease. The implication of these findings in nondiabetic

subjects and NIDDM patients is that increased urinary protein excretion

rate may be the reflection of widespread vascular damage, as suggested

by the Steno hypothesis (Deckert et al17 ).

 

Damsgaard et al37 showed in nondiabetic subjects that the increase in

all-cause mortality during the 8- to 9-year follow-up associated with

albuminuria was mostly due to an increased mortality of albuminuric

nondiabetic subjects during the first years after the baseline

examination. No difference in mortality between subjects with and

without albuminuria was found among those who survived the first 5 years

of the follow-up. Contrary to the findings of Damsgaard et al,37 in our

study the mortality of both nondiabetic subjects and NIDDM patients with

clinical proteinuria continued to be higher than that in corresponding

subjects without proteinuria during the last years of follow-up also.

Similar results have been published by other investigators.7 36 The

implication of these findings is that proteinuria is not solely the

complication of any preclinical serious disease but the reflection of

underlying disorder itself.

 

Although the etiology of lower-extremity amputation is multifactorial,

including combinations of ischemia, neuropathy, trauma, and infection,

the ischemia often plays a major role in pathways leading to

amputation.38 As far as we know, no studies regarding the association

between proteinuria and the risk of amputation have been published

previously. The prevalence of peripheral arterial disease has been shown

to be higher in NIDDM patients with albuminuria,39 40 but no association

between proteinuria and the incidence of peripheral arterial disease was

found in a prospective study.21 In our study, the association between

clinical proteinuria and incidence of lower-extremity amputation in

NIDDM patients was significant even though slightly weaker than that

between proteinuria and incidence of stroke.

 

Instead of the measurement of urinary albumin excretion rate, we

determined the total urinary protein concentration from the morning spot

urine. In patients with increased urinary protein excretion rate due to

diabetic glomerular injury, the proportion of albumin to total urinary

protein is higher than in subjects without diabetic nephropathy. The

commonly used cutoff point for urinary albumin excretion rate of 200 to

300 mg/24 h has been estimated to correspond to a total urinary protein

excretion rate of 500 mg/24 h.41 Our cutoff point for clinical

proteinuria (300 mg/L) is close to this, assuming that the mean daily

volume of urine is approximately 1.5 L. Urinary protein concentration

measured from spot urine has been shown to correlate very well with

24-hour urinary protein excretion.42 43 In our study, measurement of

urinary protein concentration from spot urine instead of 24-hour urine

may increase random variation and decrease the strength of the

association between proteinuria and atherosclerotic vascular events.

Furthermore, if we had measured urinary albumin, which is more specific

to diabetic nephropathy than total urinary protein, our findings

concerning associations between proteinuria and atherosclerotic vascular

disease events might have been even stronger than those we now report.

 

The mechanisms of the association between proteinuria and CVD are poorly

understood, and several explanations have been proposed. Albuminuria has

been proposed to be associated with adverse changes in other known

cardiovascular risk factors,4 13 14 15 16 a marker of established CVD

itself,16 widespread vascular damage,17 or endothelial dysfunction.18 19

Furthermore, albuminuria has been shown to be related to the

abnormalities in thrombogenic factors favoring the development of

cardiovascular complications in patients with NIDDM.16 18 In our study,

proteinuria in NIDDM patients was associated with adverse changes in

most of the classic cardiovascular risk factors except smoking.

Statistically significant associations were found between proteinuria

and history of hypertension and elevated levels of triglycerides and

total and decreased levels of HDL cholesterol. Furthermore, in NIDDM

patients the metabolic control of diabetes was worse in the subjects

with borderline or clinical proteinuria. However, after we controlled

for all these variables, clinical proteinuria still significantly

predicted the risk of stroke, as well as the risk of serious CHD events

and amputation in NIDDM patients.

 

In conclusion, increased urinary protein concentration predicted both

all-cause and CVD mortality, as well as the incidence of stroke and

other atherosclerotic vascular disease events, during the 7-year

follow-up both in nondiabetic and NIDDM subjects. The association

between clinical proteinuria and the risk of atherosclerotic vascular

disease events remained statistically significant in NIDDM subjects even

after controlling for other cardiovascular risk factors. Our findings

are compatible with the hypothesis that increased urinary protein

excretion may be associated with widespread vascular damage.

 

 

Selected Abbreviations and Acronyms

 

CHD = coronary heart disease

CVD = cardiovascular disease

MI = myocardial infarction

NIDDM = non–insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus

WHO = World Health Organization

 

 

 

 

 

 

Acknowledgments

 

This study was supported by grants from the Academy of Finland, the

Aarne and Aili Turunen Foundation, and the Finnish Heart Research

Foundation.

 

Received July 2, 1996; revision received August 7, 1996; accepted August

15, 1996.

 

 

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> Hello Ms Guest,

>

> My names Renato Alexander, coping with multiple

> sclerosis, and, undaunted, managed to email you a

> rather heartfelt 'story' of how I've been dealing

> successfully with it.

>

> Improvements have actually been quite surreal and just

> wished I could share my experience with you. I already

> have hardly any self-esteem left that I'm aware of- we

> tend to be hypersensitive at times- so the fact that

> you didnt acknowledge my initial display of enthusiasm,

surprisingly, didnt adversly affect me..

> and Im sure its by virtue of the seemingly miraculous

> improvements that Ive had, even emotionally, thank

> God.

>

> I think I may have inadvertingly offended you, in

> which case I extend my most humble apologies!

>

> Sincerely,

> Renato

>

 

Renato,

My thoughts and prayers are with you during this very difficult

time! There are no words in the English language to

adequately express my feelings when I receive emails like yours. I truly

appreciate your response! Your response is very encouraging to me. I have

learned to be cautious on public forums, however if you ever need encouragement

or additional help feel free to email me privately.

 

You didn't mention your background in alternatives, or how you became aware of

echinacea for MS symptoms. This is not at all surprising to me when I consider

the way echinacea impacts the immune system and although I had known about the

link with

interferon, I always appreciate additional information and especially this

regarding MS. There is a good deal of controversy on the subject... I believe MS

is considered an autoimmune disease?? some say that pathogens are

contraindicated for this very reason.

 

It is very interesting to read various opinions on the subject although this

just confirms to me the fact that we must all do our own research, mainly

because that which is beneficial for one is not always effective for everyone

else (even those who have been labeled with the same disease). Each individual

is unique.

 

Alternative medicine is largely trial and error.

I do know this from my past experience as I have successfully recovered from

cardiovascular disease over the past five years or more. I will say that

initially I experienced a host of improvements although as time progresses the

vitality and energy that I am experiencing in this new way of life is becoming

almost surreal for me and especially at my age. I can honestly say that there

are so many beneficial aspects of the organic diet that surpasses anything which

I had ever experienced in the past. Little wonder though remembering white bread

was a staple at our dinner table. Diet makes such a difference. But then we are

all accustomed to the standard american diet which leaves a lot to be desired!

 

Surreal? That is an understatement! Yet, whenever I try to explain

this to those around me there is little or no comprehension.

There is a lot of work to be done. There are still those who say it can't be

done,so in our hearts we have the secret of health which seems hidden to the

majority. I will say that Big Pharma has seemingly done their job well!!!

 

Hugs and bright blessings,

JoAnn

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Thank you Ms Guest,

 

A local Va.Bch family doctor introduced me to it all;

all started with a blood analysis, blood was drawn and

studied.. results came back showing what food

allergies one has, sensitivities and supplements

'tailor made' for ones' paticular problem are

encouraged, and I just happen to be coming along

great!

 

My point in sharing all this is because, as I continue

feeling better and better, I can't help feeling

empathy for other 'sick' people- this is a pretty

obscure 'therapy'

 

I'm happy to provide more details,

 

Renato

 

PS Fatigue, cognitive difficulties etc are gone the

first couple wks.. hey, I sound like a commercial,

sorry, but I guess I'm more a testimonial

 

 

--- JoAnn Guest <angelprincessjo wrote:

>

> ,

> renato alexander

> <renato23451> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Ms Guest,

> >

> > My names Renato Alexander, coping with multiple

> > sclerosis, and, undaunted, managed to email you a

> > rather heartfelt 'story' of how I've been dealing

> > successfully with it.

> >

> > Improvements have actually been quite surreal and

> just

> > wished I could share my experience with you. I

> already

> > have hardly any self-esteem left that I'm aware

> of- we

> > tend to be hypersensitive at times- so the fact

> that

> > you didnt acknowledge my initial display of

> enthusiasm,

> surprisingly, didnt adversly affect me..

> > and Im sure its by virtue of the seemingly

> miraculous

> > improvements that Ive had, even emotionally, thank

> > God.

> >

> > I think I may have inadvertingly offended you, in

> > which case I extend my most humble apologies!

> >

> > Sincerely,

> > Renato

> >

>

> Renato,

> My thoughts and prayers are with you during this

> very difficult

> time! There are no words in the English language to

> adequately express my feelings when I receive emails

> like yours. I truly appreciate your response! Your

> response is very encouraging to me. I have learned

> to be cautious on public forums, however if you ever

> need encouragement or additional help feel free to

> email me privately.

>

> You didn't mention your background in alternatives,

> or how you became aware of echinacea for MS

> symptoms. This is not at all surprising to me when I

> consider the way echinacea impacts the immune system

> and although I had known about the link with

> interferon, I always appreciate additional

> information and especially this regarding MS. There

> is a good deal of controversy on the subject... I

> believe MS is considered an autoimmune disease??

> some say that pathogens are contraindicated for this

> very reason.

>

> It is very interesting to read various opinions on

> the subject although this just confirms to me the

> fact that we must all do our own research, mainly

> because that which is beneficial for one is not

> always effective for everyone else (even those who

> have been labeled with the same disease). Each

> individual is unique.

>

> Alternative medicine is largely trial and error.

> I do know this from my past experience as I have

> successfully recovered from cardiovascular disease

> over the past five years or more. I will say that

> initially I experienced a host of improvements

> although as time progresses the vitality and energy

> that I am experiencing in this new way of life is

> becoming almost surreal for me and especially at my

> age. I can honestly say that there are so many

> beneficial aspects of the organic diet that

> surpasses anything which I had ever experienced in

> the past. Little wonder though remembering white

> bread was a staple at our dinner table. Diet makes

> such a difference. But then we are all accustomed to

> the standard american diet which leaves a lot to be

> desired!

>

> Surreal? That is an understatement! Yet, whenever I

> try to explain

> this to those around me there is little or no

> comprehension.

> There is a lot of work to be done. There are still

> those who say it can't be done,so in our hearts we

> have the secret of health which seems hidden to the

> majority. I will say that Big Pharma has seemingly

> done their job well!!!

>

> Hugs and bright blessings,

> JoAnn

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

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