Guest guest Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Wednesday, February 23, 2005 By Miranda HittiNew clues about Alzheimer’s disease (search) have emerged from a Spanish study of marijuana. The drug’s active ingredients — cannabinoids (search) — help prevent brain problems seen in Alzheimer’s, say the scientists. There is no cure for Alzheimer’s disease, which progressively damages brain areas involved in memory, judgment, language and behavior. Alzheimer’s disease is the most common form of mental decline, or dementia (search), in older adults. The new study didn’t test cannabinoids on people living with Alzheimer’s disease. Instead, the researchers focused on human brain tissue samples and conducted cannabinoid experiments on rats. The findings showed that “cannabinoids work both to prevent inflammation and to protect the brain,” says researcher Maria de Ceballos in a news release. That “may set the stage for [cannabinoids’] use as a therapeutic approach for [Alzheimer’s disease].” A staff member at Madrid’s Cajal Institute, de Ceballos conducted the study with colleagues from nearby Complutense University. Their results appear in the Feb. 23 edition of The Journal of Neuroscience. Marijuana, Alzheimer’s Disease, and the Human Brain The researchers studied human brain tissue samples, some of which were from deceased Alzheimer’s patients and some from normal brain tissue. The typical features seen in the brain tissue of Alzheimer's disease are called plaques. Plaques are protein clumps that are seen outside brain cells and they have been shown to activate inflammation seen in brain tissue of Alzheimer's disease patients. Besides the typical plaques seen with Alzheimer’s disease, the brain tissues taken from Alzheimer’s patients also had many fewer cannabinoid receptors. Significant changes in the location, expression, and function of cannabinoid receptors may play a role in Alzheimer’s disease, write the researchers. That could mean that the patients had lost the capacity to experience cannabinoids’ protective effects, says the news release. Marijuana and Alzheimer’s Mental Decline The researchers also injected rats with a protein called beta-amyloid (search), which gave the rats an Alzheimer’s-like brain condition. Some of the same rats were also injected with a cannabinoid. For comparison, other rats got injections of an unrelated protein along with beta-amyloid. After two months, the rats were tested for learning, memory, and mental functions. The researchers tried to train them to find a platform in a tank of water. The rats had two minutes to find the platform. If they failed, the researchers briefly put the rats on the platform. Four times a day for five days, the rats practiced. By the fifth day, the rats that received the cannabinoid injections were able to find the platform on their own. Those that didn’t get the cannabinoid injections didn’t learn to find the platform. Another interesting result also surfaced. The cannabinoids completely prevented activation of cells that trigger inflammation. These cells gather near plaque and are believed to be involved in the development of Alzheimer’s disease. “Our results indicate that cannabinoid receptors are important in the pathology of Alzheimer’s disease and that cannabinoids succeed in preventing the neurodegenerative process occurring in the disease,” write the researchers in the journal. They plan to focus future studies on a cannabinoid receptor that’s unrelated to marijuana’s “high,” says the news release. By Miranda Hitti, reviewed by Brunilda Nazario, MD http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,148518,00.html lve, Hempress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 My son is still struggling to recover from marijuana induced psychosis. He smoked marijuana fr a year. Its not so easy and simple. Ratan. --- HAH <GaiaHemp wrote: > > > > > Wednesday, February 23, 2005 > By Miranda HittiNew clues about Alzheimer’s disease > (search) have emerged > from a Spanish study of marijuana. The drug’s active > ingredients — > cannabinoids (search) — help prevent brain problems > seen in Alzheimer’s, say > the scientists. > There is no cure for Alzheimer’s disease, which > progressively damages brain > areas involved in memory, judgment, language and > behavior. Alzheimer’s > disease is the most common form of mental decline, > or dementia (search), in > older adults. > The new study didn’t test cannabinoids on people > living with Alzheimer’s > disease. Instead, the researchers focused on human > brain tissue samples and > conducted cannabinoid experiments on rats. > The findings showed that “cannabinoids work both to > prevent inflammation and > to protect the brain,” says researcher Maria de > Ceballos in a news release. > That “may set the stage for [cannabinoids’] use as a > therapeutic approach > for [Alzheimer’s disease].” > A staff member at Madrid’s Cajal Institute, de > Ceballos conducted the study > with colleagues from nearby Complutense University. > Their results appear in > the Feb. 23 edition of The Journal of Neuroscience. > Marijuana, Alzheimer’s Disease, and the Human Brain > The researchers studied human brain tissue samples, > some of which were from > deceased Alzheimer’s patients and some from normal > brain tissue. > The typical features seen in the brain tissue of > Alzheimer's disease are > called plaques. Plaques are protein clumps that are > seen outside brain cells > and they have been shown to activate inflammation > seen in brain tissue of > Alzheimer's disease patients. > Besides the typical plaques seen with Alzheimer’s > disease, the brain tissues > taken from Alzheimer’s patients also had many fewer > cannabinoid receptors. > Significant changes in the location, expression, and > function of cannabinoid > receptors may play a role in Alzheimer’s disease, > write the researchers. > That could mean that the patients had lost the > capacity to experience > cannabinoids’ protective effects, says the news > release. > Marijuana and Alzheimer’s Mental Decline > The researchers also injected rats with a protein > called beta-amyloid > (search), which gave the rats an Alzheimer’s-like > brain condition. > Some of the same rats were also injected with a > cannabinoid. For comparison, > other rats got injections of an unrelated protein > along with beta-amyloid. > After two months, the rats were tested for learning, > memory, and mental > functions. The researchers tried to train them to > find a platform in a tank > of water. The rats had two minutes to find the > platform. If they failed, the > researchers briefly put the rats on the platform. > Four times a day for five > days, the rats practiced. > By the fifth day, the rats that received the > cannabinoid injections were > able to find the platform on their own. Those that > didn’t get the > cannabinoid injections didn’t learn to find the > platform. > Another interesting result also surfaced. The > cannabinoids completely > prevented activation of cells that trigger > inflammation. These cells gather > near plaque and are believed to be involved in the > development of > Alzheimer’s disease. > “Our results indicate that cannabinoid receptors are > important in the > pathology of Alzheimer’s disease and that > cannabinoids succeed in preventing > the neurodegenerative process occurring in the > disease,” write the > researchers in the journal. > They plan to focus future studies on a cannabinoid > receptor that’s unrelated > to marijuana’s “high,” says the news release. > By Miranda Hitti, reviewed by Brunilda Nazario, MD > > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,148518,00.html > > > > lve, > Hempress > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail./mail_250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 psychosis from marijuana? I never heard of that and tons of people who smoke it C psych doc <psych_58 wrote: my son is still struggling to recover from marijuana induced psychosis. He smoked marijuana fr a year. Its not so easy and simple. Ratan. --- " Life is not holding a good hand; Life is playing a poor hand well. " Danish proverb Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 What happened to your son is what happened to some people who drank booze when it was prohibited~ If it were legal, he may not have been able to get it as easy anywhere on the streets and also if we had a better educational system in America, like they have in Amsterdam, he could have said " Know " to drugs before he decided to smoke something he had no idea he was actually smoking~ For young people are taught what Cannabis is for in the UK, unlike children in America are just taught to say " No " ratha than to " Know " what all herbs all for~ Teenagers get the chance to make wise choices as to what they are going to do with Cannibas and with that said, they normally choose to not do it so blindy as American teenagers do~ Your son was self medicating with something he had no bussiness messing with~ It was very easy and simple for him to get it on the streets because it's unregulated~ Hempress ---- psych doc 02/24/05 10:51:36 Cc: ratans Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help Alzheimer's My son is still struggling to recover from marijuana induced psychosis. He smoked marijuana fr a year. Its not so easy and simple. Ratan. --- HAH <GaiaHemp wrote: > > > > > Wednesday, February 23, 2005 > By Miranda HittiNew clues about Alzheimer’s disease > (search) have emerged > from a Spanish study of marijuana. The drug’s active > ingredients — > cannabinoids (search) — help prevent brain problems > seen in Alzheimer’s, say > the scientists. > There is no cure for Alzheimer’s disease, which > progressively damages brain > areas involved in memory, judgment, language and > behavior. Alzheimer’s > disease is the most common form of mental decline, > or dementia (search), in > older adults. > The new study didn’t test cannabinoids on people > living with Alzheimer’s > disease. Instead, the researchers focused on human > brain tissue samples and > conducted cannabinoid experiments on rats. > The findings showed that “cannabinoids work both to > prevent inflammation and > to protect the brain,” says researcher Maria de > Ceballos in a news release. > That “may set the stage for [cannabinoids’] use as a > therapeutic approach > for [Alzheimer’s disease].” > A staff member at Madrid’s Cajal Institute, de > Ceballos conducted the study > with colleagues from nearby Complutense University. > Their results appear in > the Feb. 23 edition of The Journal of Neuroscience. > Marijuana, Alzheimer’s Disease, and the Human Brain > The researchers studied human brain tissue samples, > some of which were from > deceased Alzheimer’s patients and some from normal > brain tissue. > The typical features seen in the brain tissue of > Alzheimer's disease are > called plaques. Plaques are protein clumps that are > seen outside brain cells > and they have been shown to activate inflammation > seen in brain tissue of > Alzheimer's disease patients. > Besides the typical plaques seen with Alzheimer’s > disease, the brain tissues > taken from Alzheimer’s patients also had many fewer > cannabinoid receptors. > Significant changes in the location, expression, and > function of cannabinoid > receptors may play a role in Alzheimer’s disease, > write the researchers. > That could mean that the patients had lost the > capacity to experience > cannabinoids’ protective effects, says the news > release. > Marijuana and Alzheimer’s Mental Decline > The researchers also injected rats with a protein > called beta-amyloid > (search), which gave the rats an Alzheimer’s-like > brain condition. > Some of the same rats were also injected with a > cannabinoid. For comparison, > other rats got injections of an unrelated protein > along with beta-amyloid. > After two months, the rats were tested for learning, > memory, and mental > functions. The researchers tried to train them to > find a platform in a tank > of water. The rats had two minutes to find the > platform. If they failed, the > researchers briefly put the rats on the platform. > Four times a day for five > days, the rats practiced. > By the fifth day, the rats that received the > cannabinoid injections were > able to find the platform on their own. Those that > didn’t get the > cannabinoid injections didn’t learn to find the > platform. > Another interesting result also surfaced. The > cannabinoids completely > prevented activation of cells that trigger > inflammation. These cells gather > near plaque and are believed to be involved in the > development of > Alzheimer’s disease. > “Our results indicate that cannabinoid receptors are > important in the > pathology of Alzheimer’s disease and that > cannabinoids succeed in preventing > the neurodegenerative process occurring in the > disease,” write the > researchers in the journal. > They plan to focus future studies on a cannabinoid > receptor that’s unrelated > to marijuana’s “high,” says the news release. > By Miranda Hitti, reviewed by Brunilda Nazario, MD > > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,148518,00.html > > > > lve, > Hempress > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 It is also an atypical reaction. There are many folks who use this herb without incident. What scares me is prescription drug use among kids. " Bars " (xanax)are common in schools. Hydrocodone is widely used by even small children. Younger and younger children are being prescribed antipsychotics like risperdal, depakote, zoloft or Ritalin- that scares the hell out of me. They are taught from birth to pop pills to feel good. What I have found often is that when a teenager supposedly became psychotic smoking marijuana, in fact, other drugs such as cocaine, alcohol, and/or prescription meds were/or had been frequently used in the same period of months. HAH [GaiaHemp] Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:22 PM Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help Alzheimer's What happened to your son is what happened to some people who drank booze when it was prohibited~ If it were legal, he may not have been able to get it as easy anywhere on the streets and also if we had a better educational system in America, like they have in Amsterdam, he could have said " Know " to drugs before he decided to smoke something he had no idea he was actually smoking~ For young people are taught what Cannabis is for in the UK, unlike children in America are just taught to say " No " ratha than to " Know " what all herbs all for~ Teenagers get the chance to make wise choices as to what they are going to do with Cannibas and with that said, they normally choose to not do it so blindy as American teenagers do~ Your son was self medicating with something he had no bussiness messing with~ It was very easy and simple for him to get it on the streets because it's unregulated~ Hempress ---- psych doc 02/24/05 10:51:36 Cc: ratans Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help Alzheimer's My son is still struggling to recover from marijuana induced psychosis. He smoked marijuana fr a year. Its not so easy and simple. Ratan. --- HAH <GaiaHemp wrote: > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Marijuana will not induce psychosis. Something else was involved in this. Whatever it was may have been the driving force that attracted him to marijuana. - " psych doc " <psych_58 Cc: <ratans Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:29 AM Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help Alzheimer's > > > My son is still struggling to recover from marijuana > induced psychosis. He smoked marijuana fr a year. Its > not so easy and simple. > Ratan. > --- HAH <GaiaHemp wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> Wednesday, February 23, 2005 >> By Miranda HittiNew clues about Alzheimer's disease >> (search) have emerged >> from a Spanish study of marijuana. The drug's active >> ingredients - >> cannabinoids (search) - help prevent brain problems >> seen in Alzheimer's, say >> the scientists. >> There is no cure for Alzheimer's disease, which >> progressively damages brain >> areas involved in memory, judgment, language and >> behavior. Alzheimer's >> disease is the most common form of mental decline, >> or dementia (search), in >> older adults. >> The new study didn't test cannabinoids on people >> living with Alzheimer's >> disease. Instead, the researchers focused on human >> brain tissue samples and >> conducted cannabinoid experiments on rats. >> The findings showed that " cannabinoids work both to >> prevent inflammation and >> to protect the brain, " says researcher Maria de >> Ceballos in a news release. >> That " may set the stage for [cannabinoids'] use as a >> therapeutic approach >> for [Alzheimer's disease]. " >> A staff member at Madrid's Cajal Institute, de >> Ceballos conducted the study >> with colleagues from nearby Complutense University. >> Their results appear in >> the Feb. 23 edition of The Journal of Neuroscience. >> Marijuana, Alzheimer's Disease, and the Human Brain >> The researchers studied human brain tissue samples, >> some of which were from >> deceased Alzheimer's patients and some from normal >> brain tissue. >> The typical features seen in the brain tissue of >> Alzheimer's disease are >> called plaques. Plaques are protein clumps that are >> seen outside brain cells >> and they have been shown to activate inflammation >> seen in brain tissue of >> Alzheimer's disease patients. >> Besides the typical plaques seen with Alzheimer's >> disease, the brain tissues >> taken from Alzheimer's patients also had many fewer >> cannabinoid receptors. >> Significant changes in the location, expression, and >> function of cannabinoid >> receptors may play a role in Alzheimer's disease, >> write the researchers. >> That could mean that the patients had lost the >> capacity to experience >> cannabinoids' protective effects, says the news >> release. >> Marijuana and Alzheimer's Mental Decline >> The researchers also injected rats with a protein >> called beta-amyloid >> (search), which gave the rats an Alzheimer's-like >> brain condition. >> Some of the same rats were also injected with a >> cannabinoid. For comparison, >> other rats got injections of an unrelated protein >> along with beta-amyloid. >> After two months, the rats were tested for learning, >> memory, and mental >> functions. The researchers tried to train them to >> find a platform in a tank >> of water. The rats had two minutes to find the >> platform. If they failed, the >> researchers briefly put the rats on the platform. >> Four times a day for five >> days, the rats practiced. >> By the fifth day, the rats that received the >> cannabinoid injections were >> able to find the platform on their own. Those that >> didn't get the >> cannabinoid injections didn't learn to find the >> platform. >> Another interesting result also surfaced. The >> cannabinoids completely >> prevented activation of cells that trigger >> inflammation. These cells gather >> near plaque and are believed to be involved in the >> development of >> Alzheimer's disease. >> " Our results indicate that cannabinoid receptors are >> important in the >> pathology of Alzheimer's disease and that >> cannabinoids succeed in preventing >> the neurodegenerative process occurring in the >> disease, " write the >> researchers in the journal. >> They plan to focus future studies on a cannabinoid >> receptor that's unrelated >> to marijuana's " high, " says the news release. >> By Miranda Hitti, reviewed by Brunilda Nazario, MD >> >> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,148518,00.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 That's what I thought, I have never heard of that, there is nothing in it to induce psychosis unless it was laced with something, and it sounds like it might have been PCP C Mary <mhysmith wrote: Marijuana will not induce psychosis. Something else was involved in this. Whatever it was may have been the driving force that attracted him to marijuana. " Life is not holding a good hand; Life is playing a poor hand well. " Danish proverb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 I've lived in Los Angeles for the past 54 years. In that time, I've met thousands of people of all ages and from all backgrounds. Nearly all of them smoked pot at various times in their lives, many of them for long periods. I have never, absolutely never, met a single individual that exhibited even mild mental problems let alone psychosis, as a result of smoking marijuana, or that associated pot smoking with mental problems of any kind. JP - " Michael " <mwood Thursday, February 24, 2005 7:58 PM RE: Marijuana Ingredient May Help Alzheimer's > > > It is also an atypical reaction. There are many folks who use this herb > without incident. > What scares me is prescription drug use among kids. " Bars " (xanax)are > common > in schools. Hydrocodone is widely used by even small children. > Younger and younger children are being prescribed antipsychotics like > risperdal, depakote, zoloft or Ritalin- that scares the hell out of me. > They > are taught from birth to pop pills to feel good. > What I have found often is that when a teenager supposedly became > psychotic > smoking marijuana, in fact, other drugs such as cocaine, alcohol, and/or > prescription meds were/or had been frequently used in the same period of > months. > > > HAH [GaiaHemp] > Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:22 PM > > Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help > Alzheimer's > > > > What happened to your son is what happened to some people who drank booze > when it was prohibited~ If it were legal, he may not have been able to get > it as easy anywhere on the streets and also if we had a better educational > system in America, like they have in Amsterdam, he could have said " Know " > to > drugs before he decided to smoke something he had no idea he was actually > smoking~ For young people are taught what Cannabis is for in the UK, > unlike > children in America are just taught to say " No " ratha than to " Know " what > all herbs all for~ Teenagers get the chance to make wise choices as to > what > they are going to do with Cannibas and with that said, they normally > choose > to not do it so blindy as American teenagers do~ Your son was self > medicating with something he had no bussiness messing with~ It was very > easy > and simple for him to get it on the streets because it's unregulated~ > > Hempress > > ---- > > psych doc > 02/24/05 10:51:36 > > Cc: ratans > Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help > Alzheimer's > > > My son is still struggling to recover from marijuana > induced psychosis. He smoked marijuana fr a year. Its > not so easy and simple. > Ratan. > --- HAH <GaiaHemp wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Same time, same channel, same story at the southern end of the country. On the other hand, one of the folks I used to work with had severe schizophrenia. He said that smoking pot was more effective in managing his symptoms than the psychoactive drugs the psychiatrist was prescribing him. He chose to leave the pills in the bottle. Over time I observed that, at least in his case, he appeared to be right. The psychiatrist prescribing the meds agreed with him as well, although off the record of course. Numerous observations of folks over about the same period of years indicate that symptoms of agitation and aggression decrease after cannabis is injested. Some of the folks I have worked with in a nursing home had used cannabis at home for nausea, appetite stimulation, and as an anxiolytic. They cannot of course receive this in a nursing home. However, marinol- a pharmaceutical cannabis product- is often prescribed- same thing. Michael John Polifronio [counterpnt] Saturday, February 26, 2005 2:39 AM Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help Alzheimer's I've lived in Los Angeles for the past 54 years. In that time, I've met thousands of people of all ages and from all backgrounds. Nearly all of them smoked pot at various times in their lives, many of them for long periods. I have never, absolutely never, met a single individual that exhibited even mild mental problems let alone psychosis, as a result of smoking marijuana, or that associated pot smoking with mental problems of any kind. JP - " Michael " <mwood Thursday, February 24, 2005 7:58 PM RE: Marijuana Ingredient May Help Alzheimer's > > > It is also an atypical reaction. There are many folks who use this herb > without incident. > What scares me is prescription drug use among kids. " Bars " (xanax)are > common > in schools. Hydrocodone is widely used by even small children. > Younger and younger children are being prescribed antipsychotics like > risperdal, depakote, zoloft or Ritalin- that scares the hell out of me. > They > are taught from birth to pop pills to feel good. > What I have found often is that when a teenager supposedly became > psychotic > smoking marijuana, in fact, other drugs such as cocaine, alcohol, and/or > prescription meds were/or had been frequently used in the same period of > months. > > > HAH [GaiaHemp] > Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:22 PM > > Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help > Alzheimer's > > > > What happened to your son is what happened to some people who drank booze > when it was prohibited~ If it were legal, he may not have been able to get > it as easy anywhere on the streets and also if we had a better educational > system in America, like they have in Amsterdam, he could have said " Know " > to > drugs before he decided to smoke something he had no idea he was actually > smoking~ For young people are taught what Cannabis is for in the UK, > unlike > children in America are just taught to say " No " ratha than to " Know " what > all herbs all for~ Teenagers get the chance to make wise choices as to > what > they are going to do with Cannibas and with that said, they normally > choose > to not do it so blindy as American teenagers do~ Your son was self > medicating with something he had no bussiness messing with~ It was very > easy > and simple for him to get it on the streets because it's unregulated~ > > Hempress > > ---- > > psych doc > 02/24/05 10:51:36 > > Cc: ratans > Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help > Alzheimer's > > > My son is still struggling to recover from marijuana > induced psychosis. He smoked marijuana fr a year. Its > not so easy and simple. > Ratan. > --- HAH <GaiaHemp wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Years ago in my universtiy days I smoked a lot of pot. Granted, I was a little off before smoking it. But each time I smoked, I didn't come back to the same extent I had been before. I stayed a little more in that other world, whatever you want to call it. And that is part of why i smoked it, it was easier to blame my losing reality on drugs than to admit i was going insane. I wouldn't say I went psychotic from pot, but it, along with my metabolism, reactions to it, and major emotional issues, undiagnosed mood disorder, all contributed to the final psychosis. Rachel - " John Polifronio " <counterpnt Saturday, February 26, 2005 3:38 AM Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help Alzheimer's > > > I've lived in Los Angeles for the past 54 years. In that time, I've met > thousands of people of all ages and from all backgrounds. Nearly all of > them smoked pot at various times in their lives, many of them for long > periods. I have never, absolutely never, met a single individual that > exhibited even mild mental problems let alone psychosis, as a result of > smoking marijuana, or that associated pot smoking with mental problems of > any kind. > JP > - > " Michael " <mwood > > Thursday, February 24, 2005 7:58 PM > RE: Marijuana Ingredient May Help > Alzheimer's > > >> >> >> It is also an atypical reaction. There are many folks who use this herb >> without incident. >> What scares me is prescription drug use among kids. " Bars " (xanax)are >> common >> in schools. Hydrocodone is widely used by even small children. >> Younger and younger children are being prescribed antipsychotics like >> risperdal, depakote, zoloft or Ritalin- that scares the hell out of me. >> They >> are taught from birth to pop pills to feel good. >> What I have found often is that when a teenager supposedly became >> psychotic >> smoking marijuana, in fact, other drugs such as cocaine, alcohol, and/or >> prescription meds were/or had been frequently used in the same period of >> months. >> >> >> HAH [GaiaHemp] >> Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:22 PM >> >> Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help >> Alzheimer's >> >> >> >> What happened to your son is what happened to some people who drank booze >> when it was prohibited~ If it were legal, he may not have been able to >> get >> it as easy anywhere on the streets and also if we had a better >> educational >> system in America, like they have in Amsterdam, he could have said " Know " >> to >> drugs before he decided to smoke something he had no idea he was actually >> smoking~ For young people are taught what Cannabis is for in the UK, >> unlike >> children in America are just taught to say " No " ratha than to " Know " what >> all herbs all for~ Teenagers get the chance to make wise choices as to >> what >> they are going to do with Cannibas and with that said, they normally >> choose >> to not do it so blindy as American teenagers do~ Your son was self >> medicating with something he had no bussiness messing with~ It was very >> easy >> and simple for him to get it on the streets because it's unregulated~ >> >> Hempress >> >> ---- >> >> psych doc >> 02/24/05 10:51:36 >> >> Cc: ratans >> Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help >> Alzheimer's >> >> >> My son is still struggling to recover from marijuana >> induced psychosis. He smoked marijuana fr a year. Its >> not so easy and simple. >> Ratan. >> --- HAH <GaiaHemp wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Is there any history of this happening to anyone in your family? ---- Rachel 02/26/05 16:47:18 Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help Alzheimer's Years ago in my universtiy days I smoked a lot of pot. Granted, I was a little off before smoking it. But each time I smoked, I didn't come back to the same extent I had been before. I stayed a little more in that other world, whatever you want to call it. And that is part of why i smoked it, it was easier to blame my losing reality on drugs than to admit i was going insane. I wouldn't say I went psychotic from pot, but it, along with my metabolism, reactions to it, and major emotional issues, undiagnosed mood disorder, all contributed to the final psychosis. Rachel - " John Polifronio " <counterpnt Saturday, February 26, 2005 3:38 AM Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help Alzheimer's > > > I've lived in Los Angeles for the past 54 years. In that time, I've met > thousands of people of all ages and from all backgrounds. Nearly all of > them smoked pot at various times in their lives, many of them for long > periods. I have never, absolutely never, met a single individual that > exhibited even mild mental problems let alone psychosis, as a result of > smoking marijuana, or that associated pot smoking with mental problems of > any kind. > JP > - > " Michael " <mwood > > Thursday, February 24, 2005 7:58 PM > RE: Marijuana Ingredient May Help > Alzheimer's > > >> >> >> It is also an atypical reaction. There are many folks who use this herb >> without incident. >> What scares me is prescription drug use among kids. " Bars " (xanax)are >> common >> in schools. Hydrocodone is widely used by even small children. >> Younger and younger children are being prescribed antipsychotics like >> risperdal, depakote, zoloft or Ritalin- that scares the hell out of me. >> They >> are taught from birth to pop pills to feel good. >> What I have found often is that when a teenager supposedly became >> psychotic >> smoking marijuana, in fact, other drugs such as cocaine, alcohol, and/or >> prescription meds were/or had been frequently used in the same period of >> months. >> >> >> HAH [GaiaHemp] >> Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:22 PM >> >> Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help >> Alzheimer's >> >> >> >> What happened to your son is what happened to some people who drank booze >> when it was prohibited~ If it were legal, he may not have been able to >> get >> it as easy anywhere on the streets and also if we had a better >> educational >> system in America, like they have in Amsterdam, he could have said " Know " >> to >> drugs before he decided to smoke something he had no idea he was actually >> smoking~ For young people are taught what Cannabis is for in the UK, >> unlike >> children in America are just taught to say " No " ratha than to " Know " what >> all herbs all for~ Teenagers get the chance to make wise choices as to >> what >> they are going to do with Cannibas and with that said, they normally >> choose >> to not do it so blindy as American teenagers do~ Your son was self >> medicating with something he had no bussiness messing with~ It was very >> easy >> and simple for him to get it on the streets because it's unregulated~ >> >> Hempress >> >> ---- >> >> psych doc >> 02/24/05 10:51:36 >> >> Cc: ratans >> Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help >> Alzheimer's >> >> >> My son is still struggling to recover from marijuana >> induced psychosis. He smoked marijuana fr a year. Its >> not so easy and simple. >> Ratan. >> --- HAH <GaiaHemp wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 In fact, assuming you can handle it, marijuana probably relieves psychological, emotional and social pressures that might otherwise lead, in conjuction with other causes, to psychosis. People often malign marijuana use because its effects are temporary and the calm and peace, the " high " it provides are not permanent. This is preposterous. No one blames aspirin because it fails to cure the causes of headaches; it can only relieve the pain of a headache for a time, but it cannot remove the causes of your headache, and no one expects it to. The same is true of alcohol. The problem for people, is that we " abuse " these substances, probably because we will not or cannot address the underlying causes of our problems, and lean on drugs to remove the pain (or replace our frustrations with the serenity, however artificial, of substance abuse). A perfect example of this problem, is that much substance abuse, of all kinds, stems from the contrast provided by drug use, to the emptiness and dullness of so many of our lives. The solution has nothing to do with the drug, and it makes no sense to condemn drug use. People's lives are not dull and empty " because " they use drugs. They're dull and empty because we fail, or cannot find the way, to make the effort to bring challenge, excitement and meaning to our lives. If we do meet the challenge, our demand for artificial " excitement " will diminish and finally disappear. JP - " Christina " <cbmd3 Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:02 AM Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help Alzheimer's > > > psychosis from marijuana? I never heard of that and tons of people who > smoke it > C > > psych doc <psych_58 wrote: > my son is still struggling to recover from marijuana > induced psychosis. He smoked marijuana fr a year. Its > not so easy and simple. > Ratan. > --- > > " Life is not holding a good hand; Life is playing a poor hand well. " > Danish proverb > > > > Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Nope. Just me. No history of anything like that, or of mental illness either. A few very vague references to my grandmother being nuts and a greataunt living in an institution but no one knows much about either. Rachel - " HAH " <GaiaHemp Saturday, February 26, 2005 8:30 PM Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help Alzheimer's > > > Is there any history of this happening to anyone in your family? > > ---- > > Rachel > 02/26/05 16:47:18 > > Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help > Alzheimer's > > > Years ago in my universtiy days I smoked a lot of pot. Granted, I was a > little off before smoking it. But each time I smoked, I didn't come back > to > > the same extent I had been before. I stayed a little more in that other > world, whatever you want to call it. And that is part of why i smoked it, > it was easier to blame my losing reality on drugs than to admit i was > going > insane. > > I wouldn't say I went psychotic from pot, but it, along with my > metabolism, > reactions to it, and major emotional issues, undiagnosed mood disorder, > all > contributed to the final psychosis. > > Rachel > > > > - > " John Polifronio " <counterpnt > > Saturday, February 26, 2005 3:38 AM > Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help > Alzheimer's > > >> >> >> I've lived in Los Angeles for the past 54 years. In that time, I've met >> thousands of people of all ages and from all backgrounds. Nearly all of >> them smoked pot at various times in their lives, many of them for long >> periods. I have never, absolutely never, met a single individual that >> exhibited even mild mental problems let alone psychosis, as a result of >> smoking marijuana, or that associated pot smoking with mental problems of >> any kind. >> JP >> - >> " Michael " <mwood >> >> Thursday, February 24, 2005 7:58 PM >> RE: Marijuana Ingredient May Help >> Alzheimer's >> >> >>> >>> >>> It is also an atypical reaction. There are many folks who use this herb >>> without incident. >>> What scares me is prescription drug use among kids. " Bars " (xanax)are >>> common >>> in schools. Hydrocodone is widely used by even small children. >>> Younger and younger children are being prescribed antipsychotics like >>> risperdal, depakote, zoloft or Ritalin- that scares the hell out of me. >>> They >>> are taught from birth to pop pills to feel good. >>> What I have found often is that when a teenager supposedly became >>> psychotic >>> smoking marijuana, in fact, other drugs such as cocaine, alcohol, and/or >>> prescription meds were/or had been frequently used in the same period of >>> months. >>> >>> >>> HAH [GaiaHemp] >>> Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:22 PM >>> >>> Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help >>> Alzheimer's >>> >>> >>> >>> What happened to your son is what happened to some people who drank >>> booze >>> when it was prohibited~ If it were legal, he may not have been able to >>> get >>> it as easy anywhere on the streets and also if we had a better >>> educational >>> system in America, like they have in Amsterdam, he could have said >>> " Know " >>> to >>> drugs before he decided to smoke something he had no idea he was >>> actually >>> smoking~ For young people are taught what Cannabis is for in the UK, >>> unlike >>> children in America are just taught to say " No " ratha than to " Know " >>> what >>> all herbs all for~ Teenagers get the chance to make wise choices as to >>> what >>> they are going to do with Cannibas and with that said, they normally >>> choose >>> to not do it so blindy as American teenagers do~ Your son was self >>> medicating with something he had no bussiness messing with~ It was very >>> easy >>> and simple for him to get it on the streets because it's unregulated~ >>> >>> Hempress >>> >>> ---- >>> >>> psych doc >>> 02/24/05 10:51:36 >>> >>> Cc: ratans >>> Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help >>> Alzheimer's >>> >>> >>> My son is still struggling to recover from marijuana >>> induced psychosis. He smoked marijuana fr a year. Its >>> not so easy and simple. >>> Ratan. >>> --- HAH <GaiaHemp wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 I assume that " psychosis, " in certain limited ways, resembles so-called recreational drug and mind-altering substance use, in that both are substitute " realities. " What we call reality, is, after all, imposed on us by a society that perceives reality in certain fixed ways. I don't believe there to be a " reality " that is or can be the same for everyone. There are also theories suggesting that psychosis has a neurochemical or nutritional basis. We have to work this out. But the way I see the problem, each of us must find ways of resolving the conflict we face between living in the reality forced on us by often irrational and dictatorial social conditioning, on the one hand, and, creating our own reality, with the aim of separating ourselves from a painful and intolerable conventional reality, and " dropping out, " as Tim Leary used to tell us to do in the 60s. It's all fine, as long as no one is harmed, and you can survive with your mind and body intact throughout the ordeal. " Pot, " " booze, " etc., are some among many ways that people attempt to do the above. Unfortunately, it's often overdone, and predictibly, the society " blames " the substance used. JP - " HAH " <GaiaHemp Saturday, February 26, 2005 5:30 PM Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help Alzheimer's > > > Is there any history of this happening to anyone in your family? > > ---- > > Rachel > 02/26/05 16:47:18 > > Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help > Alzheimer's > > > Years ago in my universtiy days I smoked a lot of pot. Granted, I was a > little off before smoking it. But each time I smoked, I didn't come back > to > > the same extent I had been before. I stayed a little more in that other > world, whatever you want to call it. And that is part of why i smoked it, > it was easier to blame my losing reality on drugs than to admit i was > going > insane. > > I wouldn't say I went psychotic from pot, but it, along with my > metabolism, > reactions to it, and major emotional issues, undiagnosed mood disorder, > all > contributed to the final psychosis. > > Rachel > > > > - > " John Polifronio " <counterpnt > > Saturday, February 26, 2005 3:38 AM > Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help > Alzheimer's > > >> >> >> I've lived in Los Angeles for the past 54 years. In that time, I've met >> thousands of people of all ages and from all backgrounds. Nearly all of >> them smoked pot at various times in their lives, many of them for long >> periods. I have never, absolutely never, met a single individual that >> exhibited even mild mental problems let alone psychosis, as a result of >> smoking marijuana, or that associated pot smoking with mental problems of >> any kind. >> JP >> - >> " Michael " <mwood >> >> Thursday, February 24, 2005 7:58 PM >> RE: Marijuana Ingredient May Help >> Alzheimer's >> >> >>> >>> >>> It is also an atypical reaction. There are many folks who use this herb >>> without incident. >>> What scares me is prescription drug use among kids. " Bars " (xanax)are >>> common >>> in schools. Hydrocodone is widely used by even small children. >>> Younger and younger children are being prescribed antipsychotics like >>> risperdal, depakote, zoloft or Ritalin- that scares the hell out of me. >>> They >>> are taught from birth to pop pills to feel good. >>> What I have found often is that when a teenager supposedly became >>> psychotic >>> smoking marijuana, in fact, other drugs such as cocaine, alcohol, and/or >>> prescription meds were/or had been frequently used in the same period of >>> months. >>> >>> >>> HAH [GaiaHemp] >>> Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:22 PM >>> >>> Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help >>> Alzheimer's >>> >>> >>> >>> What happened to your son is what happened to some people who drank >>> booze >>> when it was prohibited~ If it were legal, he may not have been able to >>> get >>> it as easy anywhere on the streets and also if we had a better >>> educational >>> system in America, like they have in Amsterdam, he could have said >>> " Know " >>> to >>> drugs before he decided to smoke something he had no idea he was >>> actually >>> smoking~ For young people are taught what Cannabis is for in the UK, >>> unlike >>> children in America are just taught to say " No " ratha than to " Know " >>> what >>> all herbs all for~ Teenagers get the chance to make wise choices as to >>> what >>> they are going to do with Cannibas and with that said, they normally >>> choose >>> to not do it so blindy as American teenagers do~ Your son was self >>> medicating with something he had no bussiness messing with~ It was very >>> easy >>> and simple for him to get it on the streets because it's unregulated~ >>> >>> Hempress >>> >>> ---- >>> >>> psych doc >>> 02/24/05 10:51:36 >>> >>> Cc: ratans >>> Re: Marijuana Ingredient May Help >>> Alzheimer's >>> >>> >>> My son is still struggling to recover from marijuana >>> induced psychosis. He smoked marijuana fr a year. Its >>> not so easy and simple. >>> Ratan. >>> --- HAH <GaiaHemp wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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