Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Gospel according to John SS .. If you opt to put half your money ... half of what is now your (tax) contribution to Social Security ... in the stock market instead (((you can go up to 2/3))), you will sign off on half your SS benefits...(so, if you would be scheduled for a $ 1,000 per month SS benefit at age 66...that will now be $ 500.) Then, your investments...using the half of the taxes you opted to keep out of the regular system...are supposed to later yield for you ... not just the other $ 500 each month to complete your retirement schedule..but $ 540 or $ 550 ... possibly ....$ 560 per month so that you are making out like a bandit....up to $ 1,060 per month instead of the $ 1,000 per month.......... OH....but, it is possible your investment return could falter....all the way down to zero...not likely to go that badly......but.... easily such that it pays only $ 260 or $ 280 or $ 310 at retirement. So...you would then get...having opted for 50-50... $ 500 from SS... plus ...say...$ 280....= $ 780 per month instead of the $ 1,000 scheduled............the $ 1,000 someone in the same boat would actually get if they did not opt for privatization as you did. In short, your private side of the formula is a risk....it could gain more than normal but not a whole bunch more ... or it could return less... a lot less... Bush tells you only about the more. Add in these facts: 1. with a large new pool of investment dollars, all Wall Street investments will be watered down... per supply and demand ... investing will surely be less profitable to all of the investors as a whole...... 2. with each account, there will be fees. the cost to the consumer in the SS system is minimal. The cost to the investor in the Wall Street system is very significant....often eating up much of the gain. The cost of this much-more-complicated system will be higher for all who are trying to keep track of the accounts and the benefits. 3. with the Bush II economy even worse than the Reagan and Bush I economies, stock market sluggishness and many collapses are a sure bet. It's even possible that the market will collapse across the board.....with almost all accounts losing. 4. by getting the little people even deeper into the market, the insiders can economically crush millions of them even more easily than ever before in the never-ending game of rich get richer ... etc. 5. investment dollars will be restricted by government so that only selected stocks can be bought...thus, the selected corporations can grow and crush competition and then raise prices without restraint. That's a hidden cost ... a loss .. a tax, if you will. It's real and it subtracts from gains so you figure it out. Even if you win, you lose. 6. Look who's selling it. Have you seen any WMD's? Do you remember the S & L debacle... and the family whose four sons and daddy were in the middle of it? ((Hint: George, Sr, George, Jr, Jeb, Marvin and Neil....paid directors who " " " did not know what was going on " " " .)) Has anything GW ever told you turned out to be true? {actually, yes: see below} 7. Finally, the privatization gig has been tried. It's not new. Chile has done it for 25 years and it failed. England has been at it for years and is now vowing to adopt the FDR version of American Social Security because their privatized system is also a disaster. Facts. look them up. -- Does this mean George will quit pushing it and it won't pass? Facts don't bother him or the bankers and brokers who are demanding his efforts as payback for their helping to fund his looking like he could have actually won the election...he didn't ... No, he won't quit and .. without due diligence, and with a criminally ((see also vote fraud)) installed Congress, it could pass, wrong, stupid and all. We did invade Iraq, remember?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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