Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 atracyphd2 Mon, 3 Jan 2005 12:26:40 EST Lilly Knew That Prozac Could Lead to Suicide & Violence Well, what I have always said was there somewhere has finally surfaced in the British Medical Journal - proof that Eli Lilly knew as early as 1988 that Prozac produced both suicide and homicide. From one of the articles below I quote Representative Maurice Hinchey, a Democrat from Kingston, N.Y., and a vocal opponent of the government's drug approval process, who has some of the documents cited by the journal article. The congressman, is a member of the Appropriations Committee, which oversees federal agencies including the F.D.A. Of the documents that include memos between Eli Lilly employees, he said, they " clearly show a link between Prozac and actions of violence perpetrated by people taking the drug against themselves and against others. " Not only that, he also points out that, " The documents we have show that the company was instructing its employees to hide this information. We're seeing evidence here that it was a conscious act on the part of the company. " Of course anyone who has read enough of the previous research (over the past five decades) on the end result of the inhibition of serotonin reuptake could tell you that suicide and homicide would be a couple of the expected the end results. As I have said for 15 years now, documenting it all in my book Prozac: Panacea or Pandora? - Our Serotonin Nightmare, the impairment of serotonin metabolism or " inhibition of the reuptake of serotonin, " with ANY of the SSRI antidepressants or any other serotonergic drug, is the deadliest thing that could be done to the human brain or body. Yet the makers of SSRIs have told us all along that this is " beneficial " and something almost everyone needs to be happy. They even got the natural alternative market to buy into this incorrect hypothesis who then began marketing " natural " Prozacs. This is beyond doubt a serotonin nightmare that we must awaken from! With all we have seen in the years we have used these drugs, I am not sure how many wake up calls we are going to need before we come to a fully conscious level of the widespread damage stemming from use of these deadly drugs. Here is my post to the British Medical Journal: Prozac-We Should Have Known Ann Blake-Tracy, PhD, Executive Director, International Coalition For Drug Awareness www.drugawareness.org , Salt Lake City, UT 84088 atracyphd2 Send response to journal: Re: Prozac-We Should Have Known After testifying as an expert witness in criminal cases involving SSRI antidepressants for 13 years, I am very grateful for your article. The fact remains that over the past five decades mainstream medical research on serotonin has supported the fact that when serotonin reuptake is inhibited the end result will be mania/psychosis, severe loss of memory, horrifying nightmares, tension and anxiety that appear from nowhere, cravings for alcohol and other drugs, impulsive behavior with no concern for punishment, including impulsive murder or suicide, violent crime, road rage, argumentative behavior, etc. For 15 years I have warned that all of these reactions should be expected with the SSRI antidepressants because their mode of action is inhibition of the reuptake of serotonin. This new information from the BMJ on what Lilly knew about Prozac and when they knew it only backs up all of this existing research. This is research that was available for anyone to read over the past five decades. So, I want to know - why did no one in a position of authority read that research BEFORE these drugs were approved? I have never doubted that the manufacturer of each SSRI antidepressant knew their drugs would produce these results. They could not have missed it. And it was only a matter of time before it surfaced. My only remaining question has been, " How many would die before this information surfaced? " Clearly this is an international tragedy and I am convinced that as we count the dead and damaged stemming from the use of these antidepressants all will be in shock. Ann Blake Tracy, Ph.D., Executive Director, International Coalition For Drug Awareness Website: www.drugawareness.org Author: Prozac: Panacea or Pandora? - Our Serotonin Nightmare & audio tape on safe withdrawal: " Help! I Can't Get Off My Antidepressant! " Order Number: 800-280-0730 Office: 801-282-5282   http://news.scotsman.com/health.cfm?id=1477962004 US drug company knew that 'Prozac could lead to violence' RHIANNON EDWARD CONFIDENTIAL drug company documents appearing to suggest a link between a popular anti-depressant and suicide and violence have been handed to authorities in the United States, it emerged today. The British Medical Journal (BMJ) received the documents concerning the drug fluoxetine (Prozac) from an anonymous source and has now turned them over to the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA). The papers reportedly went missing during a lawsuit filed on behalf of victims of a workplace shooting carried out by Joseph Wesbecker in Louisville, Kentucky, in 1989. Wesbecker, who had a long history of depression and had been put on Prozac a month before the shootings, killed eight people and injured 12 others before killing himself. In 1994, some of the relatives of the victims brought a civil suit against Eli Lilly, the makers of Prozac, alleging the company had for years known about the side-effects - including the fact Prozac might increase violence. Although the company won the case, it was later forced to admit it had made a secret settlement with the plaintiffs, making the verdict invalid. The documents sent to the BMJ include reviews and memos indicating that Eli Lilly officials were aware in the 1980s that Prozac had troubling side-effects and sought to minimise their likely negative effect on prescribing, according to Jeanne Lenzer, writing in the journal. One of the documents, dated November 1988, reported that in clinical trials, Prozac could cause behavioural disturbances. The FDA has recently issued a warning that anti-depressants can cause stimulatory side-effects such as agitation, panic attacks and aggressiveness. Dr Richard Kapit, the administration’s clinical reviewer who approved Prozac, told the BMJ that he was not given the Lilly data. " These data are very important. If this report was done by Lilly or for Lilly, it was their responsibility to report it to us and to publish it, " he said. The administration has agreed to review the documents passed on by the BMJ. The documents are now being reviewed by the office of Congressman Maurice Hinchey to determine whether Lilly withheld data. " This is an alarming study, " Mr Hinchey said. " This case demonstrates the need for Congress to mandate the complete disclosure of all clinical studies for FDA-approved drugs so patients and their doctors, not drug companies, decide if the benefits of taking a certain medicine outweigh the risks. " In a statement to the BMJ, Lilly said: " Prozac has helped to significantly improve millions of lives. It is one of the most studied drugs in the history of medicine, and has been prescribed for more than 50 million people worldwide. " The safety and efficacy of Prozac is well studied, well documented and well established. " http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/01/business/01prozac.html Lilly Shares Fall on Report About Prozac Documents By KEN BELSON Published: January 1, 2005 hares in Eli Lilly & Company fell yesterday after an article in a medical journal suggested that the drug company had long concealed evidence that its well-known antidepressant, Prozac, could cause violent and suicidal behavior. The accusations were made in the Jan. 1 issue of The British Medical Journal, which said it had turned over documents related to the allegations to the United States Food and Drug Administration. The F.D.A. was reviewing the papers, which had been missing for more than 10 years, according to the Journal article, which said they were originally gathered during a lawsuit against Lilly on behalf of victims of a gunman in Kentucky who had reportedly been taking Prozac for a month before going on a rampage. An F.D.A. spokeswoman, Kathleen Quinn, could not confirm yesterday whether or not the agency had received the documents mentioned in the medical journal. But at least one member of Congress said he had obtained copies of the documents reportedly given to the F.D.A. In a written response, Eli Lilly said: " To our knowledge, there has never been any allegation of missing documents " from lawsuits involving Lilly. The company also said it tried unsuccessfully to obtain copies of the documents from The Journal. " Lilly has consistently provided regulatory agencies worldwide with results from both clinical trials and postmarketing surveillance, " including data related to Prozac, the company's statement said. Eli Lilly's stock fell 75 cents, or 1.3 percent, to $56.75. It is unclear what, if any, action might result from the matter. In October, the F.D.A. ordered pharmaceutical companies to include " black box " warnings on the labels of their antidepressants, including Prozac. The warnings are the strongest restriction the government can impose on pharmaceutical companies, short of banning a drug. The warnings state that antidepressants increase the risk of " suicidal thinking and behavior in children and adolescents. " British medical regulators have recommended that many antidepressants not be prescribed for children and teenagers, but had not included Prozac in those advisories. Even if the documents do not prompt legal or regulatory action, they could sully Eli Lilly's image. The company's fortunes have been closely tied to Prozac. The company has long defended the drug in the face of legal and medical challenges and insisted that it has not suppressed relevant information about the drug. The report comes at a time of renewed scrutiny of the pharmaceutical industry and the government's process for approving drugs. Representative Maurice Hinchey, a Democrat from Kingston, N.Y., and a vocal opponent of the government's drug approval process, said yesterday that he had some of the documents cited by the journal article. The congressman, who is a member of the Appropriations Committee, which oversees federal agencies including the F.D.A., said the documents date back to the 1980's and include memos between Eli Lilly employees. They " clearly show a link between Prozac and actions of violence perpetrated by people taking the drug against themselves and against others, " Mr. Hinchey said. " The documents we have show that the company was instructing its employees to hide this information. We're seeing evidence here that it was a conscious act on the part of the company. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Thankyou for this string of articles on Prozac. Both my children have been put on it, and I can't figure out why. They inherited alot of things from their bio-dad and me, but why they are on this drug I still can't get a straight answer on. Oh, of course it couldn't be the kickback the Dr surely gets from ol' Eli Lilly..... ....Both my boys are on this drug and the doc just upped my youngest's dosage because he is exhibiting Trichotillomania--pulling out his hair--a habit-disorder. Just up the Prozac and it will go away. She says it may have to go up to 20mg a day--he's 10 yrs old! I'm not buying it but I don't know what else is available that could help. All I have to research is on the net, and there is just a handful of sites relating to Trichotillomania. And they are all (so far as I've seen) pharmaceutical-related treatments. I don't like this, and wonder what I can do naturally to combat this. Its a form of OCD, and we are really at our wits' ends trying to alleviate this problem. The doc will not listen, and as we love the boys' counselor--and she is connected with this doc and seeking another doc would lose this counselor--its a Catch 22 situation. The counselor questions the med as well, but is powerless to change the doc's mind. Now, I KNOW I don't have to follow the doc's instructions. They don't have to take any pharmaceuticals I dont' want them to take. However, there are some real issues that need addressing (ADD, ADHD, ODD, OCD--) Both boys score very high on national testing and IQ but have real behaviour problems, this is not imaginary, nor am I a person who blindly believes doctors. If they didn't take their ADD/ADHD drugs they would really be in a world of hurt, I've seen it, and stand by my usage of those Rxs but she has them both on Prozac. I'm really questioning this now, especially with the info you sent, (info I already knew some of, but needed a kick in the pants about--thanks!) Does anyone know of any natural way to combat this form of OCD? He is very tactile, has to touch everything. Pulling out his hair is exacerbated by the ADHD meds he takes. However, if he does not take any meds he does nothing in class, tho he is in the gifted program and is challenged. He gets out of his seat all the time, can NOT sit still, wanders around the classroom, and refuses to even put his name on his paper when not medicated. His life is really miserable for him, he has lost friends when unmedicated. We took him off ADHD meds for the summer and 1st part of the yr just to see what happened--it was bad, he needs the medication. His focus is so much better, and tho he is unable to do much homework, this is due more to a teacher problem than a child problem. He is SO bright, and I hate medicating him, but he truly seems to do so much better when he takes his ADHD meds. However, when he does, in comes the hair-pulling. I cut his hair short and the poor boy is almost bald in the front. The whole thing is a quandary I'd like to get us all out of. This is a very hard post for me to write, please don't come down on me too hard for giving my children medication for ADD and ADHD respectively. My eldest was diagnosed when he was 5, and in a double-blind study did SO much better on the ADD meds he is on, and still is doing well considering his extreme behaviour difficulties. My youngest has been harder to treat. I don't know where to start--I understand that they need vitamins and minerals--but which ones? And, are there any herbs etc out there anyone knows of to handle the hair pulling? B6? St John's Wort? Excuse the long post, and the rambling nature of it. I am new here and really don't know how else to ask for help! Its very frustrating dealing with all of this. Any help would really be appreciated, dietary, vitamin/mineral or holistic. Thanks! -Glenna/Seattle - califpacific Monday, January 03, 2005 10:47 PM Lilly Knew That Prozac Could Lead to Suicide & Violence atracyphd2 Mon, 3 Jan 2005 12:26:40 EST Lilly Knew That Prozac Could Lead to Suicide & Violence --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.827 / Virus Database: 564 - Release 1/3/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Getting the mercury out of their bodies would be a start, several ways, oral chealation, intravenious chelation, herbal liver cleanses. Homeopathic help with removing mercuryand other noxious metals. Personally, a good DR of Homeopathy works for me...getting silver/mercury amalgams replaced is part of the package..ng - " PageRox " <PageRox93 Friday, January 07, 2005 2:53 PM Re: Lilly Knew That Prozac Could Lead to Suicide & Violence > > > Thankyou for this string of articles on Prozac. Both my children have been put on it, and I can't figure out why. They inherited alot of things from their bio-dad and me, but why they are on this drug I still can't get a straight answer on. > Oh, of course it couldn't be the kickback the Dr surely gets from ol' Eli Lilly..... > ...Both my boys are on this drug and the doc just upped my youngest's dosage because he is exhibiting Trichotillomania--pulling out his hair--a habit-disorder. Just up the Prozac and it will go away. She says it may have to go up to 20mg a day--he's 10 yrs old! I'm not buying it but I don't know what else is available that could help. All I have to research is on the net, and there is just a handful of sites relating to Trichotillomania. And they are all (so far as I've seen) pharmaceutical-related treatments. > > I don't like this, and wonder what I can do naturally to combat this. Its a form of OCD, and we are really at our wits' ends trying to alleviate this problem. The doc will not listen, and as we love the boys' counselor--and she is connected with this doc and seeking another doc would lose this counselor--its a Catch 22 situation. > The counselor questions the med as well, but is powerless to change the doc's mind. > > Now, I KNOW I don't have to follow the doc's instructions. They don't have to take any pharmaceuticals I dont' want them to take. However, there are some real issues that need addressing (ADD, ADHD, ODD, OCD--) Both boys score very high on national testing and IQ but have real behaviour problems, this is not imaginary, nor am I a person who blindly believes doctors. > If they didn't take their ADD/ADHD drugs they would really be in a world of hurt, I've seen it, and stand by my usage of those Rxs but she has them both on Prozac. I'm really questioning this now, especially with the info you sent, (info I already knew some of, but needed a kick in the pants about--thanks!) > > Does anyone know of any natural way to combat this form of OCD? He is very tactile, has to touch everything. Pulling out his hair is exacerbated by the ADHD meds he takes. However, if he does not take any meds he does nothing in class, tho he is in the gifted program and is challenged. He gets out of his seat all the time, can NOT sit still, wanders around the classroom, and refuses to even put his name on his paper when not medicated. His life is really miserable for him, he has lost friends when unmedicated. We took him off ADHD meds for the summer and 1st part of the yr just to see what happened--it was bad, he needs the medication. > His focus is so much better, and tho he is unable to do much homework, this is due more to a teacher problem than a child problem. He is SO bright, and I hate medicating him, but he truly seems to do so much better when he takes his ADHD meds. However, when he does, in comes the hair-pulling. I cut his hair short and the poor boy is almost bald in the front. > > The whole thing is a quandary I'd like to get us all out of. > > This is a very hard post for me to write, please don't come down on me too hard for giving my children medication for ADD and ADHD respectively. My eldest was diagnosed when he was 5, and in a double-blind study did SO much better on the ADD meds he is on, and still is doing well considering his extreme behaviour difficulties. My youngest has been harder to treat. > > I don't know where to start--I understand that they need vitamins and minerals--but which ones? > > And, are there any herbs etc out there anyone knows of to handle the hair pulling? B6? St John's Wort? > > Excuse the long post, and the rambling nature of it. I am new here and really don't know how else to ask for help! > Its very frustrating dealing with all of this. > Any help would really be appreciated, dietary, vitamin/mineral or holistic. > > Thanks! > > -Glenna/Seattle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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