Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME), What is it?

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Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME), What is it?

JoAnn Guest

Dec 29, 2004 14:57 PST

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Chronic Fatigue Syndrome -Myalgic encephalomyelitis

What is it?

 

http://www.weightcontroldoctor.com/healthtopics/a-z/cfs.asp

 

This condition is also known as myalgic encephalomyelitis (ME),

post-viral syndrome or " yuppie flu " , describing the fact that it

primarily affects young adults and resembles a prolonged flu-like

illness. By definition the symptoms must be present for at least six

months before it can be labeled as chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS).

 

What are the symptoms?

Of the large cluster of possible symptoms, fatigue is obviously the

predominant feature. This may be chronic and persisting, or relapsing,

coming and going unpredictably. It is frequently overwhelming and may

immobilize the patient. The fatigue is often exacerbated by even minor

exertion, although sometimes the exhaustion will be delayed anything up

to 24 hours after the exercise. Other possible symptoms include a

feeling of weakness and heaviness of the limbs, poor memory and

concentration, sleep disturbance, depression, mood swings, muscle and

joint aches and pains, lymph gland swelling, recurrent viral infections,

blurred vision, dizziness, nausea, bloating, constipation and diarrhea.

All of these symptoms may fluctuate.

 

What causes it?

The cause of CFS is unknown. It is likely that there is no single

underlying disease process in those diagnosed with the condition. The

onset is usually fairly abrupt rather than gradual, and may sometimes

follow a viral infection (such as glandular fever).

 

The contributing factors of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome are -

• Recurrent and/or chronic viral infections

• Hidden infections in the body

• An imbalance of gut flora associated with infestation with unfriendly

bacteria and candida.

• The long term outcome of a depressive illness, which is inadequately

treated

• Auto-immune diseases, which must be investigated and treated

• Any chronic medical illness

• Liver dysfunction

• Hormonal deficiencies caused by poor function of the thyroid gland

and the adrenal glands

• Nutritional deficiencies - in women, one of the most common

underlying causes of 'that tired feeling' is iron deficiency.

 

How is it diagnosed?

 

There is no simple test to tell you whether you have chronic fatigue

syndrome or not. Although many sufferers have minor abnormalities in

certain blood tests that assess immune function, these are of no real

help in verifying the diagnosis.Rather, the diagnosis of CFS is made by

excluding other possible diseases.

 

It is important to strengthen the immune system and detoxify the body.

This is achieved by improving the function of the liver by increasing

the amount of raw vegetables in the diet and taking a powerful liver

tonic in powder or capsule form.

 

Excerpt from

" The Liver Cleansing Diet " by Dr Cabot

 

Another symptom of a sluggish liver is fatigue and this is usually put

down to the “wastepaper basket disease” of chronic fatigue syndrome into

which diagnoses are thrown when tired people cannot find a cause for

their ill health. In 99 per cent of such cases I find that the dietary

history will give me the clue and these patients are eating too much

saturated and damaged fats and not enough raw vegetables and fruits.

 

As we have seen before, the liver and the immune system are intimately

related; just like a married couple they are dependent upon each other

and each one’s happiness depends upon the other.

 

To overcome chronic fatigue syndrome we must take the load off the

overworked immune system by cleansing the liver.

 

Treatment

 

Unfortunately, just as there is no known cause for CFS, there is no

known cure. However, most cases are self-limiting and with the

naturopathic approach the vast majority of sufferers can find some

relief. The naturopathic approach concentrates on building up immune

function. Our immune system helps to protect us against infections,

cancer, allergic disorders, inflammatory and degenerative diseases.

 

A poorly functioning immune system is thought to be a significant

factor involved in the development of chronic fatigue syndrome.

 

General Recommendations

 

• See " Your Immune Health Check-up " .

• Rest is not a cure for CFS. Excessive rest will only induce muscle

wasting, depression and social isolation.

 

• A gentle exercise programme has been shown to be beneficial. This

should be graded aerobic exercise and under supervision. Tai chi is

excellent. Hydrotherapy is also worthwhile.

 

• Concentrate on your strengths and avoid your weaknesses. Stress

management can be very helpful and may take the form of counseling,

relaxation exercises, psychotherapy or biofeedback. You should try to

lead as normal a life as possible, and carry out your usual activities,

within limits.

 

• The environment in which CFS sufferers live is very important, and

they should avoid toxins, for example, cigarette smoke, pesticides, many

household chemicals, petrochemical solvents and heavy metals such as

lead and mercury. There is some evidence that mercury-containing amalgam

fillings can cause CFS in susceptible people. If you suspect mercury

poisoning is causing your fatigue, we advise you to see a dentist who

would replace your amalgam fillings with porcelain inlays, crowns or

composite resin restoration.

 

• Instead of patented cleaning products, CFS sufferers should use

old-fashioned bicarbonate of soda, 'Sunlight' soap and vinegar to keep

the house clean.

• Acupuncture may be helpful.

 

Diet

• It is important to improve liver function to reduce the workload of

the immune system.

 

Excerpt from " The Liver Cleansing Diet "

 

The vast majority of people with chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) will get

a big improvement after eight weeks on the LCD because if the liver is

continually overworked the general energy level in the body is drained.

This is wonderful news for these poor patients who have often given up

hope after years of being told that there is no proven treatment for

CFS, because the cause is unknown.

 

In my experience a cause can always be found if you have a curious mind

and put on

your Sherlock Holmes cap—the cause is usually dietary, environmental,

genetic, or stress related, and several of these factors may be acting

together to make the disease worse.

 

They all need to be addressed and in CFS patients, depression and stress

will have to be treated, as well as the liver. The power of changing

your diet and eating liver-friendly foods is tremendous and is the basic

foundation upon which the recovery from CFS depends.

 

• Include often - raw fruits and vegetables (preferably organically

grown), unprocessed whole grains,raw nuts and seeds, legumes, garlic,

onions, ginger, and seafoods, especially cold water fish.

 

• Drink two liters of purified water every day to detoxify the immune

system.

 

• For a wonderful spring clean consider a juice fast for two days every

week. On these days consume only fresh organic raw fruit and vegetable

juices such as carrot, beetroot, celery, cucumber, spinach, alfalfa

sprouts, parsley, broccoli, oranges, apples and pineapple.

Combine these freely according to your taste. If you get too hungry, try

munching on some raw vegetables. Consume these juices often on

non-fasting days also.

 

• Avoid - saturated fats including fatty meats, fried foods and dairy

products, processed and " junk " foods, refined sugars, alcohol, salt,

fizzy soft drinks and diet colas, and preserved meats (bacon, ham,

salami, smoked meats).

 

Juices

Chronic fatigue is an ever-increasing problem in the community today and

many people find it is difficult to find a solution. There is no doubt

that raw juicing can help revitalize the immune system in such patients.

 

 

 

Hormones and CFS

 

If you suspect that hormonal imbalances are contributing towards your

fatigue, ask your doctor to check the function of your thyroid and

adrenal glands. In cases of adrenal gland exhaustion it may be necessary

to use natural hormone replacement therapy with DHEA, natural

progesterone or pregnenelone.

These hormones are available in cream or lozenge form. Replacement with

these hormones can make a huge difference to those with chronic fatigue

syndrome.

 

DHEA stands for the hormone “Dehydroepiandrosterone”, which is made

naturally in the adrenal glands. With age the production of DHEA

diminishes greatly, and by the time you are in your seventies, your

adrenal glands only manufacture around 20% of the amount of DHEA that

they did in your twenties.

 

Some anti-aging researchers believe that the relative deficiency of DHEA

accelerates the aging process. Lack of DHEA can result in :

 

• More rapid aging

• Lack of muscle strength and tone

• Muscular weakness

• Loss of libido

• Chronic fatigue

• Depression

Thankfully in this day and age we are able to replace the lost DHEA,

with the natural hormone that is identical to the DHEA that your

youthful adrenal glands used to pump out.

 

Each capsule of DHEA contains:

• DHEA 25mg

DHEA SHOULD NOT be taken by those under 40 years of age unless

recommended by your health care practitioner. DHEA should only be used

after consulting with a health care practitioner. It is wise to

establish each individuals base line level of DHEA, and to continue to

monitor DHEA levels as part of a rejuvenation program.

 

 

 

 

 

Minerals such as selenium, boron, chromium, molybdenum and zinc are of

great benefit in those with chronic fatigue. These can be obtained in

Selenomune powder together with anti-oxidants and maleic acid which is

vital for energy production in the cells

 

• " Co-enzyme Q10 " Dose: One capsule daily, or as directed by your health

care professional Can increase energy production in the body as this is

an integral part of every cell in your body. It provides the molecules

of each cell with energy, equaling approx. 95% of the total energy of

the body.

 

 

A magnesium formula containing a mixture of different types of

magnesium, with magnesium aspartate, amino acid chelate, orotate and

phosphate, is recommended with the dose varying from two to four tablets

daily.

Magnesium plays a crucial role in cellular metabolism and a deficiency,

even of a slight degree, could seriously reduce the body’s production of

energy

 

Other supplements

 

• Vitamin C with bioflavonoids 5000 to 10000 mg daily is a superb

antioxidant that protects the immune system, supports adrenal gland

function and is anti-viral. For those with a severely depressed immune

system, a course of intravenous vitamin C can be very effective with

doses of up to 30000 mg daily. This may be combined with vitamin B12

injections which will boost energy levels.

 

• Vitamin B3 (in the form of niacinamide) 400 to 600 mg daily is

important for the production of a molecule called NADH which generates

energy within cells.

 

• Flaxseed (linseed) oil is important for immune function and

intracellular regulation of inflammation. This can be taken as “Organic

Flaxseed Capsules” in a dose of two capsules twice daily.

Organic Flax Seed Oil

 

 

• “Olive leaf capsules are beneficial, containing olive leaf extract

which is a natural antibiotic, as well as fenugreek, rosehips, vitamin

C, zinc and lysine.

 

 

Orthodox Medical Treatment

 

Those suffering from a post-infective type of CFS have a good prognosis

with a high rate of spontaneous remission. Explanation and reassurance

may be all that is required.

 

 

Dear Dr. Cabot,

My 16-year-old daughter has developed chronic fatigue syndrome and is

always coming down with a virus or respiratory infection.

 

She is always on anti-biotics and these drugs are making her highly

allergic. She has no energy and is very miserable.

 

Please help.

Marita

 

Dear Marita,

Your daughter has an overloaded immune system, which is unable to fight

infections. These recurrent infections often cause chronic fatigue.

Please get her to follow the principles of " The Liver Cleansing Diet " .

She must avoid all dairy products and eat only fresh foods. She must eat

plenty of fruit and vegetables, salads and take raw juices everyday. To

help fight the infections she needs to take natural antibiotics.

 

The best ones are olive leaf extract, garlic (raw is best!),

horseradish, Vitamin C, and the minerals zinc and selenium. All these

things reduce the ability of the viral particles to replicate.

 

References

Lapp CW. Chronic fatigue syndrome is a real disease. North Carolina

Family Physician 43(1):6-11, 1992; Cox IM, Campbell MJ, Dowson D. Red

blood cell magnesium and chronic fatigue syndrome. Lancet 337:757-60,

1991; Behan PO, Behan WM, Horrobin D. Effect of high doses of essential

fatty acids on the postviral fatigue syndrome. Acta Neurol Scand

82(3):209-16, 1990.)

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Hi Jo,

 

 

I am not sure where you got your CFS info, my brain fog prohibits

reading it all in one go, but I should warn that there is definitely

some misinformation there.

As a long term CFS sufferer, I should know.

 

CFS is a Neurological disorder, and this damage to the brain and

Hypothalamus is the cause of the debilitating physical symptoms.

 

" A gentle exercise programme has been shown to be beneficial. This

should be graded aerobic exercise and under supervision "

I dont know where that came from but whoever wrote it knows nothing

about CFS.

 

As for carrying out normal activities as much as possible, what

planet is that writer on?

 

And " that tired feeling " ? oh PLEEEASE!

 

Exercise is definitely not recommended for patients with Chronic

Fatigue syndrome, unfortunately, I wish it was possible because I

used to love horseriding and physical activity before I was sick.

 

No respected information source on CFS would contain such

misinformation.

 

Whilst continuous bed rest is not recommended, (except for the

severely affected who cant get out of bed) even the mildest physical

activity can lead to severe flu-like symptoms and immobility,

sometimes lasting for days; in the long term, the more exercise you

do, the sicker you will get.

 

My Chronic Fatigue Specialist, Dr Terry Mitchell, (from the Chronic

Fatigue Centre at James Paget Hospital, Great Yarmouth) explained

that this is the result of production of Cytokenes, and that this

overproduction of Cytokenes is also the cause of the famous 'brain

fog': which means severe cognitive symptoms; from not being able to

understand spoken words, to being unable to read more than a couple

of paragraphs, poor concentration, word finding difficulties, poor

short term memory, inability to work things out or think things

through, and inability to calculate numbers.

 

I have been assigned an occupational therapist, and the word is

PACING, never exercise. Pacing means that all activities, even

writing on the computer like now, or eating, or brushing my teeth,

are counted as physical exertions which must be carried out only for

short periods of time and balanced with periods of rest. To the ratio

of twice as much rest as activity, roughly.

 

Activities that you would not have thought of such as watching TV or

holding conversations are particularly tiring because of the high

brain activity involved. It doesnt matter much to me because I cant

concentrate on a movie or hold a conversation for very long anyway,

lol.

 

I recently asked my occupational Therapist for some stretching

exercises; because I am concerned that my joints are becoming more

stiff. I recieved her reply today, she sent me some diagrams of a set

of some dozen seated movements; very gentle stretches such as would

be recommended for the very old and infirm; with a written warning

attached: " Please make sure you add them in slowly; and treat them as

a new activity. If symptoms greatly increase then you may need to cut

back on them "

 

This illness does lead to social (I forget the word) isolation,

because even for a relatively high functioning sufferer such as

myself, mobility is a big problem. Being unable to walk more than 100

yards even on my better days, is a considerable barrier to going out;

(dont forget once you have walked your maximum of 100 yards, you cant

walk the 100yds back again, and even for determined and stubborn

people such as myself, to push further against your illness is

exteremely detrimental). Even when I have visitors at home on good

days, conversations are too exhausting, I cant understand half of

what is being said to me, I cant keep track of the conversation or

think of the words to reply; visits from friends and relatives have

to be kept very short.

 

I have never suffered from depression, I have a very positive

attitude, I am a cheerful person with a good sense of humour. This

illness, which I have suffered from for nine years now, is the most

unbelievably frustrating thing to deal with.

 

I have the will and the desire to do all the things I used to love:

such as painting and lifedrawing, working hard and enjoying the

company of my workmates, socialising, dancing, horseriding,

gardening, reading, swimming, taking long walks in the forest or on

the beach was a particular favourite of mine.

 

Unfortunately all these things are way out of reach, it is a major

battle even dragging my body up the stairs, very often I cannot

manage even that.

 

I have written too long now, and I will pay for it. but I will come

back in a minute and give you a link which will provide some much

more authentic information about the disease.

 

All the Best

Yvonne

 

, JoAnn Guest

<angelprincessjo> wrote:

>

> Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME), What is it?

> JoAnn Guest

> Dec 29, 2004 14:57 PST

>

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> Chronic Fatigue Syndrome -Myalgic encephalomyelitis

> What is it?

>

> http://www.weightcontroldoctor.com/healthtopics/a-z/cfs.asp

>

> This condition is also known as myalgic encephalomyelitis (ME),

> post-viral syndrome or " yuppie flu " , describing the fact that it

> primarily affects young adults and resembles a prolonged flu-like

> illness. By definition the symptoms must be present for at least

six

> months before it can be labeled as chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS).

>

> What are the symptoms?

> Of the large cluster of possible symptoms, fatigue is obviously the

> predominant feature. This may be chronic and persisting, or

relapsing,

> coming and going unpredictably. It is frequently overwhelming and

may

> immobilize the patient. The fatigue is often exacerbated by even

minor

> exertion, although sometimes the exhaustion will be delayed

anything up

> to 24 hours after the exercise. Other possible symptoms include a

> feeling of weakness and heaviness of the limbs, poor memory and

> concentration, sleep disturbance, depression, mood swings, muscle

and

> joint aches and pains, lymph gland swelling, recurrent viral

infections,

> blurred vision, dizziness, nausea, bloating, constipation and

diarrhea.

> All of these symptoms may fluctuate.

>

> What causes it?

> The cause of CFS is unknown. It is likely that there is no single

> underlying disease process in those diagnosed with the condition.

The

> onset is usually fairly abrupt rather than gradual, and may

sometimes

> follow a viral infection (such as glandular fever).

>

> The contributing factors of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome are -

> • Recurrent and/or chronic viral infections

> • Hidden infections in the body

> • An imbalance of gut flora associated with infestation with

unfriendly

> bacteria and candida.

> • The long term outcome of a depressive illness, which is

inadequately

> treated

> • Auto-immune diseases, which must be investigated and treated

> • Any chronic medical illness

> • Liver dysfunction

> • Hormonal deficiencies caused by poor function of the thyroid

gland

> and the adrenal glands

> • Nutritional deficiencies - in women, one of the most common

> underlying causes of 'that tired feeling' is iron deficiency.

>

> How is it diagnosed?

>

> There is no simple test to tell you whether you have chronic

fatigue

> syndrome or not. Although many sufferers have minor abnormalities

in

> certain blood tests that assess immune function, these are of no

real

> help in verifying the diagnosis.Rather, the diagnosis of CFS is

made by

> excluding other possible diseases.

>

> It is important to strengthen the immune system and detoxify the

body.

> This is achieved by improving the function of the liver by

increasing

> the amount of raw vegetables in the diet and taking a powerful

liver

> tonic in powder or capsule form.

>

> Excerpt from

> " The Liver Cleansing Diet " by Dr Cabot

>

> Another symptom of a sluggish liver is fatigue and this is usually

put

> down to the " wastepaper basket disease " of chronic fatigue syndrome

into

> which diagnoses are thrown when tired people cannot find a cause

for

> their ill health. In 99 per cent of such cases I find that the

dietary

> history will give me the clue and these patients are eating too

much

> saturated and damaged fats and not enough raw vegetables and

fruits.

>

> As we have seen before, the liver and the immune system are

intimately

> related; just like a married couple they are dependent upon each

other

> and each one's happiness depends upon the other.

>

> To overcome chronic fatigue syndrome we must take the load off the

> overworked immune system by cleansing the liver.

>

> Treatment

>

> Unfortunately, just as there is no known cause for CFS, there is no

> known cure. However, most cases are self-limiting and with the

> naturopathic approach the vast majority of sufferers can find some

> relief. The naturopathic approach concentrates on building up

immune

> function. Our immune system helps to protect us against infections,

> cancer, allergic disorders, inflammatory and degenerative diseases.

>

> A poorly functioning immune system is thought to be a significant

> factor involved in the development of chronic fatigue syndrome.

>

> General Recommendations

>

> • See " Your Immune Health Check-up " .

> • Rest is not a cure for CFS. Excessive rest will only induce

muscle

> wasting, depression and social isolation.

>

> • A gentle exercise programme has been shown to be beneficial. This

> should be graded aerobic exercise and under supervision. Tai chi is

> excellent. Hydrotherapy is also worthwhile.

>

> • Concentrate on your strengths and avoid your weaknesses. Stress

> management can be very helpful and may take the form of counseling,

> relaxation exercises, psychotherapy or biofeedback. You should try

to

> lead as normal a life as possible, and carry out your usual

activities,

> within limits.

>

> • The environment in which CFS sufferers live is very important,

and

> they should avoid toxins, for example, cigarette smoke, pesticides,

many

> household chemicals, petrochemical solvents and heavy metals such

as

> lead and mercury. There is some evidence that mercury-containing

amalgam

> fillings can cause CFS in susceptible people. If you suspect

mercury

> poisoning is causing your fatigue, we advise you to see a dentist

who

> would replace your amalgam fillings with porcelain inlays, crowns

or

> composite resin restoration.

>

> • Instead of patented cleaning products, CFS sufferers should use

> old-fashioned bicarbonate of soda, 'Sunlight' soap and vinegar to

keep

> the house clean.

> • Acupuncture may be helpful.

>

> Diet

> • It is important to improve liver function to reduce the workload

of

> the immune system.

>

> Excerpt from " The Liver Cleansing Diet "

>

> The vast majority of people with chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)

will get

> a big improvement after eight weeks on the LCD because if the liver

is

> continually overworked the general energy level in the body is

drained.

> This is wonderful news for these poor patients who have often given

up

> hope after years of being told that there is no proven treatment

for

> CFS, because the cause is unknown.

>

> In my experience a cause can always be found if you have a curious

mind

> and put on

> your Sherlock Holmes cap—the cause is usually dietary,

environmental,

> genetic, or stress related, and several of these factors may be

acting

> together to make the disease worse.

>

> They all need to be addressed and in CFS patients, depression and

stress

> will have to be treated, as well as the liver. The power of

changing

> your diet and eating liver-friendly foods is tremendous and is the

basic

> foundation upon which the recovery from CFS depends.

>

> • Include often - raw fruits and vegetables (preferably organically

> grown), unprocessed whole grains,raw nuts and seeds, legumes,

garlic,

> onions, ginger, and seafoods, especially cold water fish.

>

> • Drink two liters of purified water every day to detoxify the

immune

> system.

>

> • For a wonderful spring clean consider a juice fast for two days

every

> week. On these days consume only fresh organic raw fruit and

vegetable

> juices such as carrot, beetroot, celery, cucumber, spinach, alfalfa

> sprouts, parsley, broccoli, oranges, apples and pineapple.

> Combine these freely according to your taste. If you get too

hungry, try

> munching on some raw vegetables. Consume these juices often on

> non-fasting days also.

>

> • Avoid - saturated fats including fatty meats, fried foods and

dairy

> products, processed and " junk " foods, refined sugars, alcohol,

salt,

> fizzy soft drinks and diet colas, and preserved meats (bacon, ham,

> salami, smoked meats).

>

> Juices

> Chronic fatigue is an ever-increasing problem in the community

today and

> many people find it is difficult to find a solution. There is no

doubt

> that raw juicing can help revitalize the immune system in such

patients.

>

>

>

> Hormones and CFS

>

> If you suspect that hormonal imbalances are contributing towards

your

> fatigue, ask your doctor to check the function of your thyroid and

> adrenal glands. In cases of adrenal gland exhaustion it may be

necessary

> to use natural hormone replacement therapy with DHEA, natural

> progesterone or pregnenelone.

> These hormones are available in cream or lozenge form. Replacement

with

> these hormones can make a huge difference to those with chronic

fatigue

> syndrome.

>

> DHEA stands for the hormone " Dehydroepiandrosterone " , which is made

> naturally in the adrenal glands. With age the production of DHEA

> diminishes greatly, and by the time you are in your seventies, your

> adrenal glands only manufacture around 20% of the amount of DHEA

that

> they did in your twenties.

>

> Some anti-aging researchers believe that the relative deficiency of

DHEA

> accelerates the aging process. Lack of DHEA can result in :

>

> • More rapid aging

> • Lack of muscle strength and tone

> • Muscular weakness

> • Loss of libido

> • Chronic fatigue

> • Depression

> Thankfully in this day and age we are able to replace the lost

DHEA,

> with the natural hormone that is identical to the DHEA that your

> youthful adrenal glands used to pump out.

>

> Each capsule of DHEA contains:

> • DHEA 25mg

> DHEA SHOULD NOT be taken by those under 40 years of age unless

> recommended by your health care practitioner. DHEA should only be

used

> after consulting with a health care practitioner. It is wise to

> establish each individuals base line level of DHEA, and to continue

to

> monitor DHEA levels as part of a rejuvenation program.

>

>

>

>

>

> Minerals such as selenium, boron, chromium, molybdenum and zinc are

of

> great benefit in those with chronic fatigue. These can be obtained

in

> Selenomune powder together with anti-oxidants and maleic acid which

is

> vital for energy production in the cells

>

> • " Co-enzyme Q10 " Dose: One capsule daily, or as directed by your

health

> care professional Can increase energy production in the body as

this is

> an integral part of every cell in your body. It provides the

molecules

> of each cell with energy, equaling approx. 95% of the total energy

of

> the body.

>

>

> A magnesium formula containing a mixture of different types of

> magnesium, with magnesium aspartate, amino acid chelate, orotate

and

> phosphate, is recommended with the dose varying from two to four

tablets

> daily.

> Magnesium plays a crucial role in cellular metabolism and a

deficiency,

> even of a slight degree, could seriously reduce the body's

production of

> energy

>

> Other supplements

>

> • Vitamin C with bioflavonoids 5000 to 10000 mg daily is a superb

> antioxidant that protects the immune system, supports adrenal gland

> function and is anti-viral. For those with a severely depressed

immune

> system, a course of intravenous vitamin C can be very effective

with

> doses of up to 30000 mg daily. This may be combined with vitamin

B12

> injections which will boost energy levels.

>

> • Vitamin B3 (in the form of niacinamide) 400 to 600 mg daily is

> important for the production of a molecule called NADH which

generates

> energy within cells.

>

> • Flaxseed (linseed) oil is important for immune function and

> intracellular regulation of inflammation. This can be taken

as " Organic

> Flaxseed Capsules " in a dose of two capsules twice daily.

> Organic Flax Seed Oil

>

>

> • " Olive leaf capsules are beneficial, containing olive leaf

extract

> which is a natural antibiotic, as well as fenugreek, rosehips,

vitamin

> C, zinc and lysine.

>

>

> Orthodox Medical Treatment

>

> Those suffering from a post-infective type of CFS have a good

prognosis

> with a high rate of spontaneous remission. Explanation and

reassurance

> may be all that is required.

>

>

> Dear Dr. Cabot,

> My 16-year-old daughter has developed chronic fatigue syndrome and

is

> always coming down with a virus or respiratory infection.

>

> She is always on anti-biotics and these drugs are making her highly

> allergic. She has no energy and is very miserable.

>

> Please help.

> Marita

>

> Dear Marita,

> Your daughter has an overloaded immune system, which is unable to

fight

> infections. These recurrent infections often cause chronic fatigue.

> Please get her to follow the principles of " The Liver Cleansing

Diet " .

> She must avoid all dairy products and eat only fresh foods. She

must eat

> plenty of fruit and vegetables, salads and take raw juices

everyday. To

> help fight the infections she needs to take natural antibiotics.

>

> The best ones are olive leaf extract, garlic (raw is best!),

> horseradish, Vitamin C, and the minerals zinc and selenium. All

these

> things reduce the ability of the viral particles to replicate.

>

> References

> Lapp CW. Chronic fatigue syndrome is a real disease. North Carolina

> Family Physician 43(1):6-11, 1992; Cox IM, Campbell MJ, Dowson D.

Red

> blood cell magnesium and chronic fatigue syndrome. Lancet 337:757-

60,

> 1991; Behan PO, Behan WM, Horrobin D. Effect of high doses of

essential

> fatty acids on the postviral fatigue syndrome. Acta Neurol Scand

> 82(3):209-16, 1990.)

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, " Yvonne "

<simplicity46@h...> wrote:

 

 

 

> I am not sure where you got your CFS info, my brain fog prohibits

> reading it all in one go, but I should warn that there is

definitely some misinformation there.

 

The link was included in the article.

 

> " A gentle exercise programme has been shown to be beneficial. This

> should be graded aerobic exercise and under supervision "

 

> I don't know where that came from but whoever wrote it knows

nothing about CFS

 

 

That is a rather strong statement, my dear. The lady who authored the book, has

a large medical practice in Australia. The reasons for CFS are many and diverse

and until they are all identified, it is hard to diagnose. CFS, fibro and lupus

have very similar symptoms.

 

Many practitioners believe that CFS may be caused by environmental

toxins emanating from possibly within our very own homes.

 

It is important to ensure that your household cleaners, and health

and beauty products are from a purely natural source and that your

foods are organically grown! This is especially true of any meat or

dairy of which you partake, for this disease is often caused by

hormone imbalances - chemicals (Xenoestrogens, dioxins, etc.)

from our very toxic environment in addition to plastic processed

fats from our foods supply, which reside in our fat cells and recirculate

throughout our bodies periodically and affect every gland in our body in the

process.

 

Dr. Cabot's success with this disease has proven to be mainly with a

radical change of diet,liver detoxification prcedures with olive leaf extract,

selenium and a few other select trace minerals.

 

Allopathic medicine is quick to claim that this disease has no cure,

However, I am not so sure that they have all their facts straight here.

We have a son in his forties that was diagnosed with CFS several

years ago, who has been given a clean bill of health by his

naturopath, with no signs of any recurring symptoms.

If you have been diagnosed with CFS and have been receiving

treatment for this disease for over nine years, I would start to

reasess your treatment options, for there are quite a few

more viable solutions than allopathic medicine offers. This is one disease where

I believe self treatment is highly effective.

(For only the individual themselves can assess the frequency

and intensity of the symptoms).

 

Someone just emailed me just recently with the news

testing for high mercury levels found this to be the underlying cause

of CFS. There are various causes and this is why one protocol is not effective

for everyone.

Of the large cluster of possible symptoms, fatigue is obviously the

predominant feature. This may be chronic and persisting, or

relapsing,coming and going unpredictably.

 

It is frequently " overwhelming " and may IMMOBILIZE the patient. The

fatigue is often exacerbated by even " minor exertion "

although sometimes exhaustion will be " delayed " anything up

to 24 hours after the exercise.

 

It is important in these instances to strengthen the immune system and

" detoxify " the body.This is achieved by improving the function of the liver by

increasing the amount of raw organic vegetables (free from pesticides,

antibiotics and residues) in the diet]

and taking a powerful liver

tonic such as Dr.Cabot suggests.

 

In 99 per cent of such cases I find that dietary history will give

the basic clues and numerous patients discover that they are eating too much

saturated and damaged (hydrogenated) fats and not enough raw

vegetables and fruits.

 

Rest is not a cure for CFS.

Excessive rest will only induce " muscle-wasting " ,depression and

social isolation. Rest provides no solutions for in chronic fatigue

there is no rest. You awake as tired as when you retire.

 

• A *gentle* exercise programme has been shown to be beneficial. This

should be graded aerobic exercise and under supervision.

www.webmd.com

 

Concentrate on your strengths and avoid your weaknesses.

The environment in which CFS sufferers live is very important, and

they should avoid toxins in any form.

 

Excerpt from

" The Liver Cleansing Diet " by Dr Cabot

 

 

> , JoAnn Guest

> <angelprincessjo> wrote:

> > Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME), What is it?

=====================================================================

> > Chronic Fatigue Syndrome -Myalgic encephalomyelitis

> > What is it?

> >

> > http://www.weightcontroldoctor.com/healthtopics/a-z/cfs.asp

> >

[Guest guest]

, " JoAnn Guest "

<angelprincessjo> wrote:

>

> , " Yvonne "

> <simplicity46@h...> wrote:

> > I am not sure where you got your CFS info, my brain fog prohibits

> > reading it all in one go, but I should warn that there is

> definitely some misinformation there.>

> " The link was included in the article. "

 

I did explain that have severe cognitive difficulties, that prevented

me from reading to the end of the article at the time, it was too

long,

but do you mean this?

" References:

Lapp CW. Chronic fatigue syndrome is a real disease. North Carolina

Family Physician 43(1):6-11, 1992;

Cox IM, Campbell MJ, Dowson D. Red

blood cell magnesium and chronic fatigue syndrome. Lancet 337:757-60,

1991;

Behan PO, Behan WM, Horrobin D. Effect of high doses of essential

fatty acids on the postviral fatigue syndrome. Acta Neurol Scand

82(3):209-16, 1990.) " ?

 

 

Your references are from 1990, 1992 and 1991, in other words they are

historical documents about what some doctors used to think.

 

The medical profession understands the illness far better nowadays,

thank God.

 

 

>

> > " A gentle exercise programme has been shown to be beneficial. This

> > should be graded aerobic exercise and under supervision "

>

> > I don't know where that came from but whoever wrote it knows

> nothing about CFS

 

 

" That is a rather strong statement, my dear. "

 

I know how strong it is, and I stand firmly by it, my dear.

 

Whats more Dr Terry Mitchell my CFS Specialist;and Miss Jo O'Leary,

my Occupational Therapist;who both work at the CFS center at James

Paget Hospital, Great Yarmouth, would also stand by it, my dear.

 

My CFS specialist is, luckily for his patients, a wee bit more up to

date than those doctors who wrote your old archive stuff.

 

I saw my specialist in 2004, because of neurological damage,

my numerical abilities are poor,but I can still

make that out to be more than 10 years after your lady wrote her

well-meaning rubbish.

Even my humble GP is better informed than that!

 

That is three up to date experts,

or four if I dare to include myself.

Of course I only have first-hand experience and nine years of

research, so what would I know?

 

Not to presume that having the illness myself for the past nine years

could give me any understanding, I should point out that although I

have some very severe cognitive problems, I am not educationally

subnormal.

 

All I can ask you, is to please not put up any more of this

misinformation on any public site, you do more damage than you

realise.

 

I did give you a link for some more correct information, so if you

really are interested in finding out about

the illness, you can go there and learn about it if you wish

 

And if you wish to cut and paste articles about CFS, please cut and

paste them from AFME in the future if you must, at least they are a

reputable source of information.

 

Old fashioned notions about CFS, the sort that you have been

spreading here; are the source of distress and much worse, to the

real people whose lives are severely affected by this disease.

 

In the Past, sick people have been tortured and children wrenched

from their families, and many other dreadful crimes have been

committed agains CFS sufferers and their families by such

well-meaning 'Experts'.

 

Spare a thought for us who have this illness,

who have to cope with myth and disbelief, misunderstanding, false

information and the stigma it causes, in our every day lives.

 

I myself was once advised by a doctor in the early 1990's

who had got it in her head that M.E. was merely

depression,

to take vigorous exercise every day to induce the production of

Endorphins!

She did not spend long on our interview, and she did not even

bother to ask me about my mood, let alone psychoanalyse me.

 

she briefly listened to my description of purely physical symptoms,

and made her off-the-cuff recommendation without further ado. She did

not, either, advise either caution or supervision.

 

Although my mood was fine and I did not, and have never had,

any form of depression, on her advice I got an exercise cycle.

 

For two weeks I struggled on that thing, despite the agony and

unbelievable exhaustion, and the fact that I was getting sicker every

day, until in the end I was immobilized and could not get up from my

bed, could hardly raise my head let alone exercise.

 

After that 'course of treatment' I was bedridden for the next two

years, too sick to know what was happening, and too frightened to see

another doctor.

 

That may not sound like much to those of you who may have only been

bedridden with flu for a week, maybe two, but believe me the effect

of such long term disability is devastating, for the patient and for

their families.

 

Up until that point I had been a highly active and normal woman, with

a full and creative happy life and a delightful nine-year old child.

 

My story is mild, those old fashioned 'experts' have been responsible

for some really horrific blunders, you dont have to take my word for

it, use some of the links I have offered and find out for yourself.

 

I was obviously naive, Jo, when I imagined you would be grateful to

me for pointing out the errors and for giving you alternative

links to some correct information.

 

I had mistakenly imagined that your purpose was to educate and inform,

my dear.

 

If it is not, then can I ask you to at least,

please, stay away from spreading further

misinformation about M.E, CFIDS, CFS, and Lyme Disease.

 

I am honestly exhausted by this, I hope I will not have to do this

ever again.

 

All the Best, my dear.

[Guest guest]

so why are you visiting here if you already know it all? ng

-

" Yvonne " <simplicity46

 

Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:15 AM

Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME),

What is it?

 

 

>

>

>

> , " JoAnn Guest "

> <angelprincessjo> wrote:

> >

> > , " Yvonne "

> > <simplicity46@h...> wrote:

> > > I am not sure where you got your CFS info, my brain fog prohibits

> > > reading it all in one go, but I should warn that there is

> > definitely some misinformation there.>

> > " The link was included in the article. "

>

> I did explain that have severe cognitive difficulties, that prevented

> me from reading to the end of the article at the time, it was too

> long,

> but do you mean this?

> " References:

> Lapp CW. Chronic fatigue syndrome is a real disease. North Carolina

> Family Physician 43(1):6-11, 1992;

> Cox IM, Campbell MJ, Dowson D. Red

> blood cell magnesium and chronic fatigue syndrome. Lancet 337:757-60,

> 1991;

> Behan PO, Behan WM, Horrobin D. Effect of high doses of essential

> fatty acids on the postviral fatigue syndrome. Acta Neurol Scand

> 82(3):209-16, 1990.) " ?

>

>

> Your references are from 1990, 1992 and 1991, in other words they are

> historical documents about what some doctors used to think.

>

> The medical profession understands the illness far better nowadays,

> thank God.

>

>

> >

> > > " A gentle exercise programme has been shown to be beneficial. This

> > > should be graded aerobic exercise and under supervision "

> >

> > > I don't know where that came from but whoever wrote it knows

> > nothing about CFS

>

>

> " That is a rather strong statement, my dear. "

>

> I know how strong it is, and I stand firmly by it, my dear.

>

> Whats more Dr Terry Mitchell my CFS Specialist;and Miss Jo O'Leary,

> my Occupational Therapist;who both work at the CFS center at James

> Paget Hospital, Great Yarmouth, would also stand by it, my dear.

>

> My CFS specialist is, luckily for his patients, a wee bit more up to

> date than those doctors who wrote your old archive stuff.

>

> I saw my specialist in 2004, because of neurological damage,

> my numerical abilities are poor,but I can still

> make that out to be more than 10 years after your lady wrote her

> well-meaning rubbish.

> Even my humble GP is better informed than that!

>

> That is three up to date experts,

> or four if I dare to include myself.

> Of course I only have first-hand experience and nine years of

> research, so what would I know?

>

> Not to presume that having the illness myself for the past nine years

> could give me any understanding, I should point out that although I

> have some very severe cognitive problems, I am not educationally

> subnormal.

>

> All I can ask you, is to please not put up any more of this

> misinformation on any public site, you do more damage than you

> realise.

>

> I did give you a link for some more correct information, so if you

> really are interested in finding out about

> the illness, you can go there and learn about it if you wish

>

> And if you wish to cut and paste articles about CFS, please cut and

> paste them from AFME in the future if you must, at least they are a

> reputable source of information.

>

> Old fashioned notions about CFS, the sort that you have been

> spreading here; are the source of distress and much worse, to the

> real people whose lives are severely affected by this disease.

>

> In the Past, sick people have been tortured and children wrenched

> from their families, and many other dreadful crimes have been

> committed agains CFS sufferers and their families by such

> well-meaning 'Experts'.

>

> Spare a thought for us who have this illness,

> who have to cope with myth and disbelief, misunderstanding, false

> information and the stigma it causes, in our every day lives.

>

> I myself was once advised by a doctor in the early 1990's

> who had got it in her head that M.E. was merely

> depression,

> to take vigorous exercise every day to induce the production of

> Endorphins!

> She did not spend long on our interview, and she did not even

> bother to ask me about my mood, let alone psychoanalyse me.

>

> she briefly listened to my description of purely physical symptoms,

> and made her off-the-cuff recommendation without further ado. She did

> not, either, advise either caution or supervision.

>

> Although my mood was fine and I did not, and have never had,

> any form of depression, on her advice I got an exercise cycle.

>

> For two weeks I struggled on that thing, despite the agony and

> unbelievable exhaustion, and the fact that I was getting sicker every

> day, until in the end I was immobilized and could not get up from my

> bed, could hardly raise my head let alone exercise.

>

> After that 'course of treatment' I was bedridden for the next two

> years, too sick to know what was happening, and too frightened to see

> another doctor.

>

> That may not sound like much to those of you who may have only been

> bedridden with flu for a week, maybe two, but believe me the effect

> of such long term disability is devastating, for the patient and for

> their families.

>

> Up until that point I had been a highly active and normal woman, with

> a full and creative happy life and a delightful nine-year old child.

>

> My story is mild, those old fashioned 'experts' have been responsible

> for some really horrific blunders, you dont have to take my word for

> it, use some of the links I have offered and find out for yourself.

>

> I was obviously naive, Jo, when I imagined you would be grateful to

> me for pointing out the errors and for giving you alternative

> links to some correct information.

>

> I had mistakenly imagined that your purpose was to educate and inform,

> my dear.

>

> If it is not, then can I ask you to at least,

> please, stay away from spreading further

> misinformation about M.E, CFIDS, CFS, and Lyme Disease.

>

> I am honestly exhausted by this, I hope I will not have to do this

> ever again.

>

> All the Best, my dear.

>

>

>

>

>

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ahhhh

 

I do not know it all Nora,

nobody does, not even you, my dear.

 

But Jo was already aware that I have CFS.

Its just unfortunate that the information she collected was out of

date.

 

If anyone had wanted some current and trustworthy links so that they

could find out a bit more about CFS/FMS; all they had to do was ask

me for them, after all these years I do have that kind of information

at my fingertips, I would have been more than happy to provide.

 

Anything that will help to dispell the old myths and falsehoods about

the illness that have abounded in the past.

 

There are absolute mountains of rubbish on the internet about this

illness, as well as hundreds of 'miracle cures' and 'protocols,

most of which are extremely expensive, and do no good at all.

 

We should always be aware that not everyone who writes an article

calling themselves 'doctor' or 'expert'; is what they claim to be.

 

Misinformation about CFS/FMS really is the cause of a great deal of

harm, that is why it is always best to ensure that your information

is bang up to date and from a highly reputable source.

 

I am here for learning, as I hope you are too, I am keeping an open

mind and my eyes and ears wide open.

 

I have already been very grateful for the opportunity to learn from

Jo's wealth of knowledge about nutrition and herbalism, which I copy

and discuss with my own practitioner.

 

I consider it to be an honour and a privilege to be a member of this

information group.

 

All the Best

Yvonne

 

 

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