Dr. Leonard Horowitz interview re. Strange Flu

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Horowitz interview re. Flu

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[A World of Peace] The Case of the Strange Cold Everybody Has

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The Case Of The Strange Cold Everybody Has Been Getting

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This Fall 2004

 

 

The Nazi Flu Interview With Dr. Leonard Horowitz

 

Redden: I'd like to begin this interview by asking you about

the flu. Many of my friends are sick, and I've read a number

of news stories which say that people are sick around the

world. So many people are sick that hospital emergency rooms

are swamped and doctors are postponing surgeries. But at the

same time, the mainstream media is not referring to this

outbreak as an epidemic. So let me ask you, is there a flu

epidemic underway or not?

 

Horowitz: There has been for quite some time, but the

authorities are suppressing the news about it. It's only been

recently that the mainstream media has acknowledged that

hospital emergency rooms are filled with patients with this

bizarre upper respiratory infection that doesn't quite seem to

be a virus, a flu that the flu vaccines were ineffective against,

that was a surprise and a complete mystery to the Centers for

Disease Control authorities.

 

That's all hogwash, bogus nonsense. The fact of the matter is,

we have seen this type of an epidemic since the end of 1998

and the beginning of 1999. People have been hacking and

coughing with this bizarre illness that does not seem to follow

any logical viral or bacterial onset and transition period. It was

something that did not cause a high fever.

 

If it was a bacterial or viral infection, it would have caused a

fever in these people. It didn't. It was something that lasted

weeks, if not months. They had sinus congestion, sinus

drainage, they had a cough, they had fatigue, general malaise,

they felt they were not quite right.

 

Redden: Then is it fair to call this the flu, or is it something

else?

 

Horowitz: I think it's only fair to call it flu-like. It is

pathognomonic of, not a bacterial or viral infection, it is

pathognomonic of a fungus or a fungus related to a flu. And

that's exactly what has been developed and patented by the

Armed Forces Research Institute of Pathology.

 

We've reprinted the patent report in the new book, Healing

Codes for the Biological Apocalypse. We show you the report

on the " pathogenic micoplasma. " That's a quote, " pathogenic

micoplasma. " And if you know anything about micoplasmas,

mico indicates fungal, but yet micoplasma is not really a

fungus, it's not really a bacteria, it's not really a virus. It's sort

of like a pseudo all of them. It has no cell wall, it goes deep

into the cell nuclei thereby making it very difficult to mount

an immune response against.

 

Redden: And it's man-made...

 

Horowitz: It's man-made. It can be used as a biological weapon.

It was developed as an AIDS vaccine-related organism. It was

extracted from AIDS patients. It is responsible for virtually all

of the symptoms which AIDS patients suffer from. The AIDS

virus is at best a co-factor, and not even such a strong co-factor

as to bring on all of the symptoms of AIDS.

 

This particular organism, the micoplasma, is associated with this

upper respiratory flu-like illness. And it's also associated in its

pathogenic process with a whole variety of other symptoms that

mimic AIDS.

 

Redden: And that's what you think is causing this epidemic?

 

Horowitz: That's only one of the factors. The patent report lays

it out. Like how you can use a factor like that to cause chronic

upper respiratory infections just like what is going on. I mean,

virtually identical to what's going on. It's patented by the Armed

Forces Research Institute of Pathology.

 

Redden: How did it get out of the lab and into the general

population?

 

Horowitz: There's only speculation and the

most likely thesis that I'm looking at is through contaminated

vaccines, contaminated blood supplies. I don't know any other

suitable mode of transmitting that kind of infectious agent.

 

Redden: What about the current controversy over chemtrails - the

theory that airplanes are spraying the population with some kind

of chemical or biological weapon. As I understand it, a number

of researchers believe that many of the contrails in the skies these

days are not the normal contrails formed by high-flying jets, but

are actually trails of chemical or biological agents which spread

out and then fall on the earth. Could this micoplasma be

transmitted to the population through chemtrails?

 

Horowitz: I don't relate it to the chemtrails. I don't believe that

this particular organism could be suitably spread that way.

But I believe the chemtrails are responsible for a chemical

intoxication of the public, which would then cause a general

immune suppression, low grade to high grade, depending on

exposure. An immune dysfunction, which would then allow

people to become susceptible to opportunistic infections,

such as this micoplasma and other opportunistic infections.

 

Redden: So you believe that high-flying planes are, in fact,

spraying something on the population that the theory is real?

 

Horowitz: There's no question that it's real. There's no doubt

about that. I first began to investigate chemtrails when some

were sprayed over my home in Northern Idaho. I took pictures

of them, and then contacted the Environmental Protection

Agency of the state. When I contacted their directors, they

were clueless and referred me to the Air Force.

 

They then got me in touch with Centers for Disease Control

Toxicology, and after about a week I received a letter from one

of their chief toxicologists saying, indeed there was some

amount of ethylene dibromide in the jet fuel. Now, ethylene

dibromide is a known human chemical carcinogen that was

removed from unleaded gasoline because of its cancer-causing

effects. Now suddenly it has appeared in the jet fuel that

apparently high-altitude military aircraft are emitting.

 

Redden: Why has ethylene dibromide been added to jet fuel?

 

Horowitz: When you examine who owns the fuel, who are the

fuel company directors, suddenly you enter into the realm of

the Rockefeller family and the royal families, Standard Oil and

British Petroleum. And what are their other agendas? Suddenly

now you see their documents, showing that they have funded,

historically, eugenics, racial hygiene, genocide, depopulation,

family planning, maternal and child health where they make

and deliver vaccines, and contaminated blood supplies.

 

These are the banksters, the same people who run the blood

banking as well as the money banking industries. In both

Emerging Viruses and Healing Codes, I reference a great book

by Dr. John Coleman, who worked as a British Secret Service

agent at the highest levels. And he articulated very clearly who

was running those companies.

 

It all goes back, ultimately, to the highest level of the royal

family. The Bush family, Rothschild family, the Rockefeller

money, and the entire Rockefeller establishment is based on

Rothschild money and royal families. So you begin to then,

at least, put forward a possible theory, that if you can't explain

it rationally and any other way, I think you've got to begin

to consider conspiracy theories. And once you eliminate the

negative label that you've placed on conspiracy theories per se,

because that's been demonized, as has the terms holistic

medicine, holistic health.

 

Redden: Naturopathic

 

Horowitz: Naturopathy. I mean these labels get placed and

as soon as they do, you know, it begins to wave red flags and

people avoid those things. But, you know, when you really

just define a conspiracy as is defined in Websters, as two or

more people getting together behind closed doors covertly

and planning something unethical, immoral, illegal and then

carrying it out, that's a conspiracy. So that's now what you're

looking at, at the highest levels.

 

You're looking at decision-makers who have, for whatever

reasons, decided to put this toxic waste into jet fuels for human

exposure, what ultimately's going to be human exposure. And it

just so happens that these same people have put a lot of money

into reducing world populations. So now you ask yourself,

when it comes to testing human subjects like American citizens

unwittingly, unwillingly, who sprays toxins out of airplanes

over San Francisco, kills people that way, who sprays

biologicals on the Pennsylvania turnpike that induce death?

 

Who has done that historically, as clearly articulated in the

Frank Church congressional hearings of 1975, has been

Central Intelligence Agency biological weapons contracting

firms, such as Litton Bionetics, such as the Army Corp of

Engineers when they were developing and utilizing these

various biologicals. And this is all done under black operations,

covert operations, where they get funding and congressional

people are never informed really where this money is going.

It's the black budget.

 

Redden: As I understand it, this is not just an American

epidemic, but it's gone across Europe.

 

Horowitz: That's right. And so have the chemtrails. I've got

colleagues over there, I've got colleagues in the Bahamas,

Bermuda, Toronto, British Columbia all reporting the same

bizarre seeding of the atmosphere. It's horrible. What is going

on is just despicable.

 

Redden: One reason I'm interested in this subject is, I

personally know three people who had the exact same thing

happen to them. First they came down with flu-like symptoms

which didn't go away. Then they went to the doctor, and the

doctor said their flu had developed into a bacterial infection and

we can give you antibiotics for that. Then they were all given a

brand new antibiotic they had never taken before, and they all

had serious allergic reactions.

 

Horowitz: Right. Isn't that fascinating?

 

Redden: What happened to them?

 

Horowitz: OK, that's a great question. I'm glad you asked that

because I should have mentioned it before. What you're

looking at with this upper respiratory infection is that it is a

multi-factorial illness. It's associated with a variety of chemical

and biological co-factors. Just like with AIDS, it's not the

AIDS virus that ultimately kills, it's co-factor microbes such as

the micoplasma. What you have could be described as an ideal

Russian biological cocktail. And I suppose it's called Russia

biological cocktail because the Americans likely invented it.

 

What they determined would be the best biological chemical

warfare approach was a combination of chemicals and

biologicals, so that it would be very difficult to diagnose and

then treat the illnesses. Moreover, it would be very difficult

to trace where they came from. If you've got, say, ethylene

dibromide coming out of the jet fuels that is causing immune

suppression and weakening your immune system, and then

you've got a micoplasma microbe or a fungus that causes an

upper respiratory illness, suddenly you develop a secondary

bacterial infection.

 

Now you get hit with antibiotics, and the antibiotics cause your

body chemistry to go acidic, so now you get rashes and other

things, your liver gets full of toxins and comes out through

your skin in rashes and they get hyperallergenic reactions

associated with the other chemicals. So all of a sudden now,

you realize that you've got a human being who is completely

out of balance and infected by two, three or four microbial

co-factors as well as intoxicated by a variety of different

chemicals.

 

Redden: A point of clarification. Are You saying that the

fungus is working with the chemtrails and the antibiotic to

make people sick?

 

Horowitz: Exactly. And you've got somebody who's going to

be chronically ill. And in the contemporary warfare arena,

where experts in biological chemical warfare convene and

discuss the ways that are ideal to conduct warfare today, to

really take an enemy out, you don't want to kill the people. You

want to produce people who are chronically ill and become

dependent on the state and totally sap the resources of the

country.

 

And then you can move in further with your

military-medical-industrial complex, your international

medical-pharmaceutical cartel. And then you sell these

beleaguered and defeated countries all of the pharmaceuticals

and chemicals that they need to maintain any semblance of

healthy function.

 

Redden: So you've got a work force that can work, but they're

too tired after they finish working to...

 

Horowitz: That's exactly it. They're completely depleted. They

can't put together a military; you create a dependence and

thereby you weaken the population, and weakened populations

are easy to control. So you've got population control, and you

make vast fortunes doing it, versus just blowing up a nuclear

weapon and devastating the infrastructure that you own. You

and your colleagues own that infrastructure. You want to get

rid of the people. You don't want to get rid of infrastructure.

 

What I'm relating to you now is not speculation. If you were to

read the top experts analysis of military warfare, such as what

is articulated in The Report From Iron Mountain, which even

the authorities, they say that this is a hoax, a satire, but, you

know, there's nothing funny about it. The propaganda, the spin

that they put on it is that the document is a satire. But when you

read it, there's nothing funny about it.

 

Redden: You mentioned the Rockefellers. You think the

Rockefeller family is one of the major players in this

conspiracy?

 

Horowitz: Oh, absolutely. One of the major

players in world genocide, world population reduction. That's

no mystery anymore. I mean, you even have some mainstream

publishing companies, such as St. Martin's Press, writing the

most horrific exposes of the Rockefeller family. You have

Oxford University Press, publishing, for example, Christopher

Simpson's work, called The Science of Coercion, where he

proves that virtually the entire scientific and particularly health

science agenda was laid out by the Rockefeller family.

 

In the 1920's, the federal government was giving very little

money for public health. Where the huge investment in public

health in the United States came from was the Rockefeller

financial coffers, you know. They were behind it all. And so,

already by the 30's, the early 1930's, who was responsible for

the primary viral research investments, public health looking at

cancer, who created the cancer industry in the 1920's, was the

Rockefellers, all the Rockefeller money.

 

And if you didn't go along with that particular money making

population controlling agenda as a health scientist or health

professional you were traditionally demoted, defunded,

ostracized. And then if you kept it up, you were persecuted and

then jailed. I know many, many people who have gone through

that.

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