Guest guest Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 Hello there, I am a graduate student student so I find myself daily attending several class and engaging in many hours of homewok and studying. Occassionally I get headaches that make push at my skull, like its going to burst. I have no concentration, and the only natural cure I have found is sleep. I have tried drinking soothing teas, putting peppermint oil on my temples and taking willow tea and capsules but nothing helps.Does anyone have any natural cures that really work? thanks very much, rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 Do they occur any particular time of day or night? Any particular time of month? Any particular activities? I started taking magnesium supplements about a year ago and have seen marked progress in not getting migraines anymore. I actually started taking it for other issues but have found much info in the past year about how beneficial it can be for so many various problems. One main one being headaches. Its a fairly non-toxic element.....if you have too much you get diarrhea. If you have too little....hundreds of bodily functions are compromised. worth a try?? peace beverly REFERENCES: http://www.ctds.info/5_13_magnesium.html Multiple studies, readily available on PubMed, have confirmed that magnesium deficiencies can be a cause of anxiety and other nervous disorders. Magnesium (Mg) is a trace mineral that is known to be required for several hundred different functions in the body. A significant portion of the symptoms of many chronic disorders are identical to symptoms of magnesium deficiency. Studies show many people in the U.S. today do not consume the daily recommended amounts of Mg. A lack of this important nutrient may be a major factor in many common health problems in industrialized countries. Common conditions such as mitral valve prolapse, migraines, attention deficit disorder, fibromyalgia, asthma and allergies have all been linked to a Mg deficiency. Perhaps, not coincidentally, these conditions also tend to occur in clusters together within the same individual. A magnesium deficiency as a root cause would provide a logical explanation of why some people suffer from a constellation of these types of problems. http://www.mgwater.com/index.shtml http://www.diagnose-me.com/glossary/G650.html , relrella < rsaslan> wrote: > > > Hello there, > > I am a graduate student student so I find myself daily attending several class and engaging in many hours of homewok and studying. Occassionally I get headaches that make push at my skull, like its going to burst. I have no concentration, and the only natural cure I have found is sleep. I have tried drinking soothing teas, putting peppermint oil on my temples and taking willow tea and capsules but nothing helps.Does anyone have any natural cures that really work? > > thanks very much, > > rose > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 Hi Rose, Your headaches sound alot like the ones I used to experience. " Push at my skull, like it's going to burst " is a pretty good description of the agony I used to be in. Much as I hate to admit it, I think one thing that has helped me was giving up caffeine. I don't think I drank that much to begin with (3 to 4 cups a day; usually tea, sometimes coffee), but still, that was dumping alot of caffeine in my system. I GRADUALLY weaned myself off--two cups, one cup, half a cup, none--over a coupla weeks. And while I STILL miss my tea (because decaffeinated tea teas are SOOO not the same), if that has indeed cured my headaches, well, I've go without my beloved teas (and chocolate / cocoa too). 'Course, you could be sitting there reading this thinking " But I don't drink caffeine! " : ) Well, there may be hope yet. : ) Another thing I'd look into--getting tested for allergies. Treating my allergies has probably also helped my headaches a great deal. It'll take awhile, but I think over time it really helps. I always *thought* I was allergic to a coupla things (Ragweed usually killed me in the fall; when my friend's cat would come in the house, I'd be reaching for an anti-histamine, etc.), but turns out, allergy tests revealed I was actually allergic to quite alot-- weeds, trees, grasses, horses, cows, chemicals, etc., etc. I also had food allergies--to corn and soy. I went with traditional immunotherapy (I give myself shots every week), but there are ways to combat allergies naturally. Of course, probably the biggest change was simply trying to avoid corn and soy in my diet! Corn and / or soy are practically in EVERYTHING!! I haven't gone 'cold turkey' (ex. the bread I eat has both ingredients), but I've tried to avoid it wherever possible. (Ex. giving up popcorn, my Mother's vegetable soup; buying juice and jellies that don't have corn syrup; swapping from flavored yogurt to plain; avoiding corn and soy in my vitamins, etc., etc.) I think the allergy route has helped because while I have fewer headaches, I almost certainly have a dull version of my old headaches the day after a shot. Also, along those same lines: sinus problems might be something to consider. They recently had a study that what most people thought was a migraine was actually a sinus headache. It might be a good idea to go to an ENT specialist (ear, nose, and throat doctor: an otolaryngologist [sp?]) and describe your headaches. I'd make sure they also do allergy testing (Before setting up an appt., ask if they also do allergy testing.) I have long-standing sinus problems, so I just went back to my ENT for allergy testing. In some respects, an allergy doc is probably the best way to go for allergy testing, but if you in any way suspect / wanna investigate sinus problems, see an ENT doc. Other ideas.... You might glance over a list of foods that trigger / are commonly associated with migraines. You never know--a food you eat alot of could be on that list. You could then do trial eliminations for anything you suspect. Try to stick to a regular sleeping and eating schedule. I know that must be next to impossible in grad school, but I think that might help. A regular schedule is something that has probably helped me out alot. Ex.--I know if I wait too long to eat, I'm definitely gonna pay for it (Hello! Headache). Have your eyes tested. No doubt you're using your eyes an awful lot; just might make sense to make sure that's not part of the problem. Wear sunglasses outside. My eye doctor noticed that I have larger than normal pupils--something he has seen associated with migraines. Regardless of pupil size, I think the sunglasses bit is probably a good general recommendation for migraine sufferers. (I don't think it can hurt anyway). Supplements: I agree with Beverly. I've seen alot of references to magnesium benefiting headache sufferers. It's a supplement I take. I take magnesium glycinate; it's supposed to not have the laxative effect that other forms of magnesium--such as magnesium oxide--have. Magnesium supplements should probably be combined with a calcium supplement--especially if you don't eat alot of dairy foods. Of course, a general high-quality multi-vitamin is a good idea, and I'd recommend adding a B-complex supplement to that. The B-vtamins help the body deal with stress; might help if your headaches are in any way tension related. Here are a coupla other links that might give you a few additional ideas. http://www.wholehealthmd.com/hc/resourceareas_view/0,1438,492,00.html http://www.drweil.com/u/QA/QA3835/ (Dr. Weil has alot on his site about migraines / headaches; just do a search on his site for both of these.) http://headaches.about.com/od/triggers/ Best of luck. I know these headaches are awful, but hopefully, you'll find something that works. Regards, A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 Hi Rose, Your headaches sound alot like the ones I used to experience. " Push at my skull, like it's going to burst " is a pretty good description of the agony I used to be in. Much as I hate to admit it, I think one thing that has helped me was giving up caffeine. I don't think I drank that much to begin with (3 to 4 cups a day; usually tea, sometimes coffee), but still, that was dumping alot of caffeine in my system. I GRADUALLY weaned myself off--two cups, one cup, half a cup, none--over a coupla weeks. And while I STILL miss my tea (because decaffeinated tea teas are SOOO not the same), if that has indeed cured my headaches, well, I've go without my beloved teas (and chocolate / cocoa too). 'Course, you could be sitting there reading this thinking " But I don't drink caffeine! " : ) Well, there may be hope yet. : ) Another thing I'd look into--getting tested for allergies. Treating my allergies has probably also helped my headaches a great deal. It'll take awhile, but I think over time it really helps. I always *thought* I was allergic to a coupla things (Ragweed usually killed me in the fall; when my friend's cat would come in the house, I'd be reaching for an anti-histamine, etc.), but turns out, allergy tests revealed I was actually allergic to quite alot-- weeds, trees, grasses, horses, cows, chemicals, etc., etc. I also had food allergies--to corn and soy. I went with traditional immunotherapy (I give myself shots every week), but there are ways to combat allergies naturally. Of course, probably the biggest change was simply trying to avoid corn and soy in my diet! Corn and / or soy are practically in EVERYTHING!! I haven't gone 'cold turkey' (ex. the bread I eat has both ingredients), but I've tried to avoid it wherever possible. (Ex. giving up popcorn, my Mother's vegetable soup; buying juice and jellies that don't have corn syrup; swapping from flavored yogurt to plain; avoiding corn and soy in my vitamins, etc., etc.) I think the allergy route has helped because while I have fewer headaches, I almost certainly have a dull version of my old headaches the day after a shot. Also, along those same lines: sinus problems might be something to consider. They recently had a study that what most people thought was a migraine was actually a sinus headache. It might be a good idea to go to an ENT specialist (ear, nose, and throat doctor: an otolaryngologist [sp?]) and describe your headaches. I'd make sure they also do allergy testing (Before setting up an appt., ask if they also do allergy testing.) I have long-standing sinus problems, so I just went back to my ENT for allergy testing. In some respects, an allergy doc is probably the best way to go for allergy testing, but if you in any way suspect / wanna investigate sinus problems, see an ENT doc. Other ideas.... You might glance over a list of foods that trigger / are commonly associated with migraines. You never know--a food you eat alot of could be on that list. You could then do trial eliminations for anything you suspect. Try to stick to a regular sleeping and eating schedule. I know that must be next to impossible in grad school, but I think that might help. A regular schedule is something that has probably helped me out alot. Ex.--I know if I wait too long to eat, I'm definitely gonna pay for it (Hello! Headache). Have your eyes tested. No doubt you're using your eyes an awful lot; just might make sense to make sure that's not part of the problem. Wear sunglasses outside. My eye doctor noticed that I have larger than normal pupils--something he has seen associated with migraines. Regardless of pupil size, I think the sunglasses bit is probably a good general recommendation for migraine sufferers. (I don't think it can hurt anyway). Supplements: I agree with Beverly. I've seen alot of references to magnesium benefiting headache sufferers. It's a supplement I take. I take magnesium glycinate; it's supposed to not have the laxative effect that other forms of magnesium--such as magnesium oxide--have. Magnesium supplements should probably be combined with a calcium supplement--especially if you don't eat alot of dairy foods. Of course, a general high-quality multi-vitamin is a good idea, and I'd recommend adding a B-complex supplement to that. The B-vtamins help the body deal with stress; might help if your headaches are in any way tension related. Here are a coupla other links that might give you a few additional ideas. http://www.wholehealthmd.com/hc/resourceareas_view/0,1438,492,00.html http://www.drweil.com/u/QA/QA3835/ (Dr. Weil has alot on his site about migraines / headaches; just do a search on his site for both of these.) http://headaches.about.com/od/triggers/ Best of luck. I know these headaches are awful, but hopefully, you'll find something that works. Regards, A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Rose, Hello again. : ) I'm sorry this is late. I've been so busy I didn't see your post 'til late last night. As for herbs that might substitute for caffeine.... I think you're on the right path: ginseng and ginkgo both seem like good choices. It could be that you simply need more, that tea alone may not be enough. You might benefit from supplements of both. As for obtaining these and any other supplements, if you can't find them locally, you might look into ordering them via the internet. For the sake of convenience, I order my vitamins this way and have been very pleased. There are a number of reputable sites to choose from. I have used both Vitaminlife.com and Vitacost.com. Both sites offer international shipping: http://www.vitaminlife.com/file_include-exec/file/cust_help#shipping http://www.vitacost.com/help/index.html#ShippingPolicies Additionally, vitaminshoppe.com is another site to consider. I noticed it specifically lists Egypt as a country it ships to. (http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/ and click on " Shipping Rate Info " at the bottom of the page). And if you're concerned about customs, maybe you could just order a small, inexpensive item to see how / if it gets through all right. Also, all three of these sites are USA based, but I imagine there are some UK based web sites that might work if there was a problem. But back to the supplements themselves. Here's a good ginseng guide: http://www.wholehealthmd.com/askexperts/askexperts_viewt/0,1327,69,00 ..html And Dr. Weil has a column on energy here: http://www.drweil.com/u/QA/QA326654/ As for magnesium, it's interesting that you mentioned possibly finding chocolate helpful because chocolate actually contains a fair amount of magnesium. : ) Chocolate might be hurting you if you were a migraine sufferer, but since you don't think you are.... Another thing to consider about the chocolate angle: chocolate has been linked to boosting serotonin levels in the brain, and low serotonin levels seem linked to headaches (as well as depression). Alot of doctors actually prescribe anti-depressants (that boost serotonin levels) to their migraine patients. You might consider St. Johns Wort. It boosts sertonin levels, and although usually recommended for depression, I've also seen it recommended for headaches / migraines. http://www.wholehealthmd.com/hc/resourceareas_supp/1,1442,492,00.html Additional links: An article on chocolate: http://www.usaweekend.com/98_issues/980607/980607eat_smart_chocolate. html An article on treating headaches with complementary / alternative medicine: http://www.wholehealthmd.com/news/viewarticle/1,1513,1150,00.html The allergy angle. You have my sympathy. I'm very thankful I don't live in a smoggy, polluted area. I suppose small-town life may be boring, but at least the air is cleaner. : ) You might try an air purifier. (See http://www.drweil.com/u/QA/QA301401/) I have never used one, but I have a friend whose allergies are worse than mine, and she loves hers. She has one in her bedroom and one in her living room--the two areas in her house where she spends the most time. If you are at home a good deal, it might be worth the investment. They aren't cheap, but they are supposed to really help allergy sufferers. (Again, this is probably another thing you could buy online if you can't find one locally.) Also there are a number of supplements that are recommended for allergy sufferers. You might look into these. Might be worth a try. These two links might give you some ideas: http://www.wholehealthmd.com/hc/resourceareas_learn/1,1441,426,00.htm l#top_5 http://www.drweil.com/u/QA/QA106632/ Hope this helps. : ) All the best, A. , relrella <rsaslan> wrote: > > > Hi A. > > thank you very much for your detailed reply... > > I used to have a lot more headaches until I went to the eye doctor and discovered I needed glasses. I have trouble using them for walking around (I feel I can't see very well with them on), but I always use them for reading and studying now. The headaches defintely decreased.I really don't think I have migraine headaches because they are not daily, but come only a few times a few, but may last from a few hours to 2 days... > > In regards to caffeine I drink perhaps 4-5 cups a week..Other than that I drink green tea and herbal teas and take ginseng and ginko. But sometimes I just have to have tea because I am too tired otherwise...WOuld you have any ideas about how to get more energy which caffeine provides from herbs?There was a point when I quite all caffeine for a long time, but I was always tired and had to take a nap in the daytime..whats the best alternative to caffeine? In addition, I found that chocolate really helps my headache, is this really an illusion? Is it really hurting me? > > The main problem, is that I am studying in Cairo, Egypt. Which is not known for its clean environment. Daily I must breath in tons of lead, and other unknown pollutants. I try to escape once in a while to the clean desert, and usually I experience an increase in energy and my headaches go away. I think the headaches and other problems are caused by too juch studying, and by living in a such a polluted environment. So, do you think magnesium would help? unfortunately, the doctors here don't know anything about allergy tests or anything like that. They just love to prescribe loads of awful chemical drugs and hope one of them works. So basically I have to cure myself..I'll try some of your recommendations (I just hope I can find magnesium and other stuff like that in Egypt) and hope they'll work. > > thanks very much, > > Rose > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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