Guest guest Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Hi My husband has lymphoma and his red blood count has dropped very low. Can anyone recommend anything natural I can give him to increase his red blood count. Thanks Jackie Meet the all-new My – Try it today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 Hi Jackie. If you don't mind my asking, what sorts of therapies has your husband already tried? Is he taking vitamins or using any sort of alternative medicine therapies? I'll look in some of my alternative medicine / cancer therapy books and see it anything is mentionned. Stela , jackie liddell <j4ck1e01050> wrote: > > Hi > > My husband has lymphoma and his red blood count has dropped very low. Can anyone recommend anything natural I can give him to increase his red blood count. > > Thanks > > Jackie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 , jackie liddell <j4ck1e01050> wrote: > > Hi, > My husband has lymphoma and his red blood count has dropped very low. Can anyone recommend anything natural I can give him to increase his red blood count. > Thanks, Jackie > >Hi Jackie! When there is an insufficient supply of red corpuscles to carry oxygen supplies to and fro in our body cells, it becomes extremely difficult for them to " breathe " and throw off " waste " products. Nearly every food we eat, or a large percentage of it, contains both iron and oxygen. Whole wheat and many of the other grains and cereals (found only in their organic whole state) contain iron in the form of " iron phosphate " , also many of the vegetables, such as beets and beetroot, turnips, spinach, cabbage, celery, carrots, squash, parsley, mustard greens, dandelion leaves, watercress, etc., but one of the principal sources of organic iron and oxygen is organic fruit. All berries, plums, prunes, grapes, raisins, dates, figs, cherries, etc., contain organic iron in abundance, and the citrus fruits, such as oranges, lemons, limes, etc., are principally composed of 'citric acid',which is one third oxygen. The use of organic grapes, Concord grape juice and organic raisins is excellent for rebuilding an iron-deficient bloodstream. Wherever anemia is present, (basically defined as a deficiency of blood in quantity as well as quality) the overall treatment should be sunshine, fresh air ( deep breathing), and a well balanced diet including a substantial quantity of fresh, green vegetables and the daily use of good herbal tonics. Iron supplements are commonly given, however they are usually made of ferrous sulphate which cannot be easily metabolized. Being an inorganic substance, they are absorbed but not " assimilated " and can cause other problems in our systems. In addition, they usually destroy our vitamin E as well. Several important iron-rich foods include apricots, sunflower seeds,organic black molasses, raisins, prunes, brewer's yeast, kelp, organic egg yolk, organic whole grains, beets and their greens, turnip greens, dulse,and raw walnuts. If the condition is not responding to the dietary additions mentioned here, suspect folic acid anemia. Many people are woefully deficient in folic acid,and although you may supplement with folic acid, the isolated source may not be well absorbed by your body. It is much better to obtain this nutrient in organic foods; some important sources are organic whole grains, dark leafy greens, watercress, parsley, chicory, dandelion, amaranth (a whole grain), and lambs quarters (the herbal). One of the claims made for Aloe Vera includes curing anemia. Several people have had success in reversing pernicious anemia through the use of juices high in chlorophyll content. Juices for Anemia include... Spinach, celery & parsley, beet and fig. Cabbage has been found to be of infinite value for patients with anemia. Drink one or two glasses of cabbage juice daily. The Apricot, perhaps because of its high iron and other mineral content, may also be helpful for anemia. Kloss claimed that Dandelion is extremely high in " nutritive salts " which purify and destroy the acids in the blood. He said that " anemia is caused by a deficiency of nutritive salts in the blood and essentially has nothing to do with the 'quantity' of good blood. Dandelion contains these " nutritive salts " > One final note: I currently use a product from " Standard Process " called, " A-F Betafood " . This specific supplement is excellent for rebuilding your supply of red blood cells. It contains beetroot and some other important nutrients essential for maintaining an abundance of red blood cells. www.standardprocess.com Best Regards, JoAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 , jackie liddell <j4ck1e01050> wrote: > > Hi > > My husband has lymphoma and his red blood count has dropped very low. Can anyone recommend anything natural I can give him to increase his red blood count. > > Thanks > > Jackie Jackie, There is one other factor I would like to address while we're on this subject. I firmly believe that iron deficient anemia and many other blood deficiencies are linked to the overuse of antibiotics in our " processed " food supply. The practice of administering antibiotics to factory fed animals pose a real problem in these areas. We know that antibiotics destroy an abundance of red blood cells. Taken in daily in so many of our foods,the impact is even greater. Antibiotics are even more dangerous than we care to admit, both to our digestive tract, blood stream and immune system. Unfortunately, this is not going to change any time soon. My best advice is to obtain organic foods if at all possible. These are usually available through farmer's markets, your health food store, or the natural foods aisle of your local grocery. Regards, JoAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Hi JoAnn My husband only eats organic foods and fruit and vegetables are mainly eaten raw. Thanks Jackie JoAnn Guest <angelprincessjo wrote: , jackie liddell <j4ck1e01050> wrote: > > Hi > > My husband has lymphoma and his red blood count has dropped very low. Can anyone recommend anything natural I can give him to increase his red blood count. > > Thanks > > Jackie Jackie, There is one other factor I would like to address while we're on this subject. I firmly believe that iron deficient anemia and many other blood deficiencies are linked to the overuse of antibiotics in our " processed " food supply. The practice of administering antibiotics to factory fed animals pose a real problem in these areas. We know that antibiotics destroy an abundance of red blood cells. Taken in daily in so many of our foods,the impact is even greater. Antibiotics are even more dangerous than we care to admit, both to our digestive tract, blood stream and immune system. Unfortunately, this is not going to change any time soon. My best advice is to obtain organic foods if at all possible. These are usually available through farmer's markets, your health food store, or the natural foods aisle of your local grocery. Regards, JoAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Treating anemia without knowing the cause is asking for trouble. Anemia is a symptom, and while iron deficiency is the most common cause - it's not necessarily the cause in your husband's particular case. Blindly supplementing with iron or iron-containing food is not good without knowing more. Cancer cells require iron to grow and proliferate! Given that your husband has lymphoma, this does require some special consideration. And even if iron deficiency is found to be the cause - what is the true cause of the iron deficiency? Most iron deficiency is caused by blood loss (such as chronic GI bleeding from tiny ulcers) or in the case of women, through menstration. Iron deficiency anemia can also be caused by copper deficiency. Work with your husband's doctor to determine the cause. Blood tests should be done for: Folate levels B-12 levels serum iron ferritin Total iron-binding capacity (TIBC) test and/OR transferrin add in CBC tests too of course, to see what else is happening. Depending on these results you can then look at how to proceed. Heme iron (from natural meats) is much better absorbed than non-heme iron (found in plants and supplements). In either case, absorption is improved in deficient people with the addition of 75mg of Vitamin C taken at the same time as the food/supplement. Iron has probably the smallest window of safety for use of any nutrient. There isn't much room between too little and too much iron. David , jackie liddell <j4ck1e01050> wrote: > > Hi, > > My husband has lymphoma and his red blood count has dropped very > low. Can anyone recommend anything natural I can give him to > increase his red blood count. > Thanks, Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 Yes, I agree. I wrote a (second) post to Jackie (a day or two after her post) suggesting that the underlying cause of anemia needed to be diagnosed by a doctor, and providing a link. I think I changed the subject possibly. I just can't see that post. Joanne, might the post still be in your inbox. I also have a question about iron level. I had anemia and took herbal iron for a year or two (getting my iron levels measured from time to time). Last summer my red blood cell level was slightly above the normal range and now it has dropped down to within the normal range. (Having an iron level about normal is a health risk, and I avoided high iron foods.) Does anyone know how to calculate what would be a realistic rate of drop in the red blood cell level. Stela , " David Elfstrom " <listbox@e...> wrote: > > Treating anemia without knowing the cause is asking for trouble. Anemia is > a symptom, and while iron deficiency is the most common cause - it's not > necessarily the cause in your husband's particular case. > > Blindly supplementing with iron or iron-containing food is not good > without knowing more. Cancer cells require iron to grow and proliferate! > > Given that your husband has lymphoma, this does require some special > consideration. > > And even if iron deficiency is found to be the cause - what is the true > cause of the iron deficiency? Most iron deficiency is caused by blood loss > (such as chronic GI bleeding from tiny ulcers) or in the case of women, > through menstration. Iron deficiency anemia can also be caused by copper > deficiency. > > Work with your husband's doctor to determine the cause. Blood tests should > be done for: > > Folate levels > B-12 levels > serum iron > ferritin > Total iron-binding capacity (TIBC) test and/OR transferrin > add in CBC tests too of course, to see what else is happening. > > Depending on these results you can then look at how to proceed. > > Heme iron (from natural meats) is much better absorbed than non-heme iron > (found in plants and supplements). In either case, absorption is improved > in deficient people with the addition of 75mg of Vitamin C taken at the > same time as the food/supplement. > > Iron has probably the smallest window of safety for use of any nutrient. > There isn't much room between too little and too much iron. > > David > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 I found the " Anemia Causes and Treatment Ernest H. Rosenbaum, MD " link again. Especially check out the " summary " section. There is also a link to " nutrition " . http://www.cancersupportivecare.com/anemiacause.html http://www.cancersupportivecare.com/nutrition.html A reply to David's concern about overshooting iron levels seems to be that if the iron supplementation is done with non-heme (ie. vegetable source iron) at the end of supplementation that concern should be dealt with. This is based on information from post # 26661 made by Joann Guest. The validity of information on or off the internet needs to be checked out, of course. Stela Post #26661 " DO YOU SUFFER FROM INFORMATION OVERLOAD ON IRON OVERLOAD? JoAnn Guest Dec 12, 2004 12:41 PST " wrote in part: " But the really good news is that your body has an automatic shut-off system to limit its absorption of non-heme, or vegetarian, iron. " , " Stela Nokt " <stelanokt> wrote in part: > > > Yes, I agree. I wrote a (second) post to Jackie (a day or two after > her post) suggesting that the underlying cause of anemia needed to be > diagnosed by a doctor, and providing a link. I think I changed the > subject possibly. I just can't see that post. Joanne, might the post > still be in your inbox. > , " David Elfstrom " > <listbox@e...> wrote in part > > Heme iron (from natural meats) is much better absorbed than non-heme > iron > > (found in plants and supplements). In either case, absorption is > improved > > in deficient people with the addition of 75mg of Vitamin C taken at the > > same time as the food/supplement. > > > > Iron has probably the smallest window of safety for use of any nutrient. > > There isn't much room between too little and too much iron. > > > > David > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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