Guest guest Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 People-v-Ohio-n-Florida/message/2430 : People-v-Ohio-n-Florida Messages : Message 2430 of 2502 Wow! More Vote Fraud Info apfn-1 , Rocky Ward <rachelleward2> wrote: From the Reader Letters @ http://www.whatreallyhappened.com ~Rocky READER: I am forwarding this on as there is much good information in it and good contact lists at the bottom. Final tallies and reports from the international teams observing our elections are not in yet. I feel it is important to compile as much info as possible as this is the ammunition we will need to use to get a paper trail. It is in bill form and being pushed by Reid and Wexler I believe but the Republicans are gearing up to fight any mandatory paper trail. WHO REALLY WON THE ELECTION... PLEASE READ THIS. Here are some more interesting websites on the elections of November 2, 2004: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/ http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/shared/news/politics/stories /11/05flavote.html http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,65623,00.html http://blackboxvoting.org/ http://votergate.tv/votergate/votergatethemovie_256kb.mov As someone stated: `What I don't understand is why this is not front page news?' Now here is a forwarded email WELL WORTH reading and forwarding to your friends, colleagues and family. READ ON..... Friends, It has been five days since the election. In that time, accounts of voter fraud and malfunctioning voting machines have flooded into local newspapers inOhio, to public- interest groups, universities and weblogs. This message is an overview of those reports. The stories are summarized here, with links to the original publications. After seeing this evidence -- and there is more still to be rounded up -- I am no longer convinced that Bush won the election. I hope you will read through these summaries, s to the original stories, and come to your own conclusions. I've included all the accounts of election tampering ! ;that I'm aware of, but have not done a broad search. This is only what I've learned in the past five days. My education was provided by a group of concerned journalists who posted reports to a chat list. This is a compilation of their research. I believe there is enough evidence to suggest that the electorate may have actually chosen Kerry on Tuesday. We don't know for sure -- we can't know till there is a recount. Or, if that's not possible because of electronic voting machines, until the election is held over inOhioandFlorida. FLOR! IDA: The most troubling news comes out of Florida. Throughout most of the state, new electronic voting machines were in use. These machines -- many manufactured by a company called Diebold -- are controversial because they don't leave a paper trail. There is no way to double-check the results. The final Florida tallies on Diebold machines from Tuesday are literally unbelievable. In 29 counties where Diebold machines (an optical scanner) were used to count the ballots, large majorities ! of voters were registered Democrats. But the final results gave all the counties to Bush, sometimes by huge margins. The individual county data shows how unlikely the machine results were. For instance: In Calhoun County, 82% of registered voters are Democrats. But Diebold machines said 63% of the county voted for Bush. In Lafayette County, 83% of voters are Democrats, but Diebold said 74% of the county voted for Bush. In Liberty County, 88% of voters are Democrats, but Diebold said 64% voted for Bush. In Washington County, 67% of voters are Democrats, but Diebold said 71% voted for Bush. This same pattern appears in the results for 29 COUNTIES in Florida. In every one of those counties, the Diebold Optical Scanner produced the results. The Optical Scanner has been called the voting machine that is most! susceptible to tampering. Many of you have been watching elections closely for years. Do you believe that in 29 Florida counties in which Democrats were in the majority -- in some cases with 4 out of 5 registered voters being Democrats -- they all voted strongly for Bush? Here are the links. You can find the voter registration/final result data here: http://ustogether.org/Florida_Election.htm You can find a story analyzing these results here: http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1106-30.htm You can read about electronic voting machines -- an untested phenomenon in American elections, here: http://www.moderateindependent.com/v2i21thoreau.htm THE OTHER PROBLEM IN FLORIDA: In 6 counties -- again, they were all using electronic machines -- more votes for President were recorded than there were actual voters in the counties. Altogether, these six counties reported 188,885 more votes for President than there are voters living there. Right now, no one knows whether those extra 188,000 votes were cast for Bush or for Kerry. But Bush won the state ofFloridaby a 5% margin -- contrary to what all the polls were showing only days earlier. In Glades County: 2,443 votes for Bush / 1,718 votes for Kerry / 27 votes for Other. Those add up to 4,188. But the machines recorded the official turnout as 3,446. That adds up to 742 more votes than voters. In Highlands County: 25,874 for Bush / 15,346 for Kerry / 271 for Other. Official Turnout: 33,996. That adds up to 7,495 more votes than voters. In Miami-Dade County: 358,613 for Bush / 406,099 for Kerry / 3,841 for Other. Official Turnout 716,574. That adds up to 51,979 more votes than voters. In Osceola County: 43,108 for Bush / 38,617 for Kerry / 453 for Other. Official Turnout 63589. That adds up to 18,589 more votes than voters. In Palm Beach County: 211,894 for Bush / 327,698 for Kerry / 3,243 for Other. Official Turnout: 452,061. That adds up to 90,774 more votes than voters. In Volusia County: 111,544 for Bush / 115,319 for Kerry / 1,495 for Other. Official Turnout: 209,052. That adds up to 19,306 more votes than voters. Use this link to get to the data:http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/5/18466/2846 STILL MORE PROBLEMS INFLORIDA This account comes from partisans. Four Kerry volunteers working in Broward County sent a letter detailing election tampering to one of the reporters on our chat list. All four signed it and included their email addresses. They report a wide, disturbing range of problems, from voters saying their electronic machines malfunctioned, poll workers denied them assistance, to police putting up roadblocks on the routes to polling places, and so on. The entire text of the letter, along with the signatures, appears at the bottom of this letter. OHIO In Ohio, there were problems in four counties and one city. In Howard County, a judge ruled on Election Day that everyone standing in line to vote at7:30 p.m. had to event! ually be allowed inside. The order said the ruling was good for the day of Nov. 2. (You can view the order at the website below.) But maybe it didn't occur to the judge that everybody might not make it inside bymidnight. At the stroke of midnight, when the calendar legally clicked over to Nov. 3, Republican Ken Blackwell, the secretary of state, told all the waiting voters to go home. His workers gave them paper ballots (i.e., provisional ballots), told them to fill them out and bring them back later. It was an improvised move that undercut the intent of the judge's ruling, and created chaos. Many people inHowardCountystill haven't turned in those ballots because they don't know where to take them or what the deadline is. The only kind of ballot in a federal election that people can legally take home, fill out and turn in later is an absentee ballot, and those are marked as such. They're marked with clear rules concerning deadlines, postmarking, and so on. So an uncounted number of people in Howard County--estimated in the thousands-- couldn't get in and were turned away with what may be ruled an illegal procedure. The vast majority of those votes wre expected to go to Kerry based on the heavily Democratic population ofHowardCounty. The Democrats have filed a lawsuit. You can click on the Ohio State University law school website to read about it: http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:pKbOJwHH7OMJ:moritzlaw.osu.edu/ electionlaw/analysis/ 110304b.htm+Ohio+7:30+election+Blackwell+waiting+line & hl=en & start=4 & lr = lang_en Meanwhile, in Warren County, election officials locked the doors to the County building and refused to allow bi-partisan observers to watch the vote-count. They also denied access to the AP reporter (it is standard procedure for the AP to observe vote-counting in counties all over the country.) The Sheriff of the county said he did it for " homeland security " reasons. He never explained or specified what the security concerns were. Here is the link to the story in the Cincinnati Enquirer: http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/11/05/loc_warrenvote05.html Meanwhile, in aColumbussuburb calledGahanna, the same problem showed up with electronic machines that we saw in Florida: more votes were cast than there were voters to cast them. In this case, however, the problem was investigated and the extra 3,893 votes were shown to have been erroneously tallied for Bush. Here is the link to the story on the Ohio Network News: http://www.onnnews.com/Global/story.asp?S=2524952 Meanwhile, in Mahoning and Mercer Counties, electronic machines! again malfunctioned, but the effect that had on the vote count is not clear. The machines had to be re-set, and at one point showed votes of " negative 25 million, " according to the head of the local board of elections. Here is the story from the local Youngstownpaper, called the Vindicator: http://www.vindy.com/basic/news/281829446390855.php INDIANA In Laporte County, electronic voting machines once again appear to have failed. They tallied results for 22,200 vote! rs, even though there are 79,000 registered voters inLaPorteCounty. Assuming the county actually had a 65% turnout rate (comparable to others in the area and its own track record), that means 29,000 votes were not counted. Here is the link to the story in the Michigan City News-Dispatch: http://www.michigancityin.com/articles/2004/11/04/news/news02.txt NEW HAMPSHIRE ! This is one of several states where original exit polls (interviews with voters as they are leaving) do not jive with the results produced by electronic voting machines. I was told by an administrator at Bev Harris's group, called BlackBoxVoting (more on this below) that they are urging Ralph Nader to press for a recount inNew Hampshire. Nader was on the ballot there, so he is in a good position to ask for a re-count. You can read about Harris and her work athttp://www.blackboxvoting.org/. SIX STATES In at least six states, there was a large difference between how people said they'd voted, and how officials said they'd voted. InFlorida,Ohio,Pennsylvania,North Carolina,New HampshireandNew Mexico, there was a large discrepancy between what voters said in the original exit polls, and the final results claimed by election officials. ! ; In each of those six states, electronic voting machines were used in some or most of the counties. In contrast, in states where paper ballots were the primary method of voting, there was little or no discrepancy between original exit polls and official results. To see an easily viewable graph of this data, go to http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/todays_show.html That graph was originally compiled by a website affiliated with The Raw Story, which often gets quoted in the major dailies. So far as I know, it's a reputable site. You can see their original posting here: http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=388 MORE ON ! EXIT POLLS These are routinely conducted in elections by major news organizations. Accounts are surfacing that both the Associated Press and CNN (and perhaps others) later CHANGED their exit polling data to more closely resemble the official results. So far as I know, none of the news orgs has offered an explanation. They may try to justify it on statistical grounds. Here are two accounts. The first is very brief, the second is in- depth: http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/04/11/ana04025.html http://globalresearch.ca/articles/KEE411A.html MORE ON ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES Here is an except from the Moderate Independent website about Bev Harris's work. She is a freela! nce journalist who has been documenting how unreliable the machines are, and how vulnerable they are to tampering. " Bev Harris, author of Black Box Voting and theBlackBoxVoting.orgweb site, has documented numerous cases of electronic disasters. One occurred in Volusia County, Fla., in 2000 in which county election officials hand recounted more than 184,000 paper ballots used to feed the computerized system, after the central ballot-counting computer showed a Socialist Party candidate receiving more than 9,000 votes and Al Gore getting minus 19,000. Another 4,000 votes were received for Bush that should not have been there. " Election officials eventually tallied Gore beating Bush by 97,063 votes to 82,214. But the wrong numbers had already been sent to the media, which were used by FOX and other networks to erroneously call the election for Bush and swing the public relations part of the recount battle in his favor. " I urge you to get familia! r with Harris and her work as quickly as possible. & nbs p; Three Members of Congress Have Asked the GAO to Investigate the Election Three Congressmen have asked the General Accounting Office, a federal agency, to investigate the election, citing questionable results inOhio,Florida,North CarolinaandCalifornia. Click here to see their letter to the GAO: http://forum.therandirhodesshow.com/index.php?act=ST & f=87 & t=34711 Remember These Four Points: -- Bush's approval numbers were consistently below 50% throughout the campaign. -- New Democratic registrations inOhiowere 10 times that of Republicans, and inFlorida, Democrats held a similar but somewhat smaller advantage. -- All the polls that were still giving Bush leads after the debates were within the margin of error, and when the undecideds started m! aking up their minds over the last weekend, Kerry's poll n umbers were surging. -- the $10 million exit-poll system, specifically designed not to fail this time, clearly showed, in the original reports, a Kerry victory. Other Voices to Hear: Other people besides me and the journalists I know are beginning to question the legitimacy of the election. Here are some of them: http://www.tompaine.com/articles/kerry_won.php http://americablog.blogspot.com/archives/ 2004_10_31_americablog_archive.html#109970362694815839 http://www.ecotalk.org/VotingSecurity.htm http://www.smirkingchimp.com/article.php?sid=18588 & mode= & order=0 Here is a report of voter complaints in 7 Southern states: http://www.abcnews4.com/news/stories/1104/185549.html Again, I urge you to realize that there may still be time to do something about this before the Electoral College meets on December 13th. The first step is to educate ourselves. The second step is to educate the mainstream media. The local and regional press, and the alternative media, have been doing their jobs; no! w we need the national press to do its job, too. If you are concerned about this election being stolen, please do two things: 1) Send your concerns to everyone you know, both inside and outside theUnited States. 2) Send your concerns to the major news organizations. A list of contacts appears at the end of this message. Sincerely, Donna Knipp, New York, N.Y. The Letter from Kerry Workers In Broward County, Fla.: " Spurred by the unwillingness of the broadcast media to report voting problems during the 2004 election race, we want to alert others to the widespread voter suppression and disenfranchisement that occurred in Broward County, Florida. We staffed the emergency hotline for the! Kerry Campaign Headquarters inBrowardCountyfrom late October through the election. " All of us were devastated by the margin of Bush's win inFlorida, particularly since polls predicted the race would be extremely close. " Many of the calls to our hotline were from voters who had pressed the " Kerry " button on their electronic voting screen, only to have " Bush " light up as the candidate they had chosen. In some cases, this would happen repeatedly until about the 5th or 6th time the voter pressed " Kerry " and eventually his name would light up. ! ; In other cases, the voters pushed " Kerry " but were later asked to confirm their " Bush " vote. " We had calls about a road block, put up by the police at7amon Nov. 2, which blocked road access to two precinct locations in majority black districts. There was no justification for the road block – no accident or crime scene or construction. " Many of our calls dealt with voter suppression, or manipulation, of the Haitian population – occurrences which seem too numerous, and their targets too indefensible, as primarily poor, first-time-voter, Creole-speaking refugees, to be anything but systemic. In one example, a voter whose hands were bandaged could not press the touch- screen himself; he asked the nonpartisan election official to press " Kerry " for him, but the election official pressed " Bu! sh " and sent his vote immediately into the machine. Many, many others were denied the right to vote and were not given provisional ballots, while others were refused assistance at the polls, even though provisional ballots and voter assistance are legal rights. " Others were told they had already voted and were turned away, although they had never voted previously. This latter experience was a complaint not isolated to Haitians but also included other surprised voters with no recourse except their word against that of the Supervisor of Elections. " We spoke with hundreds of voters who were certain they had registered to vote in the past 6 months, well before the October 18 deadline, but were not on the rolls. And those were just the people who had the information to contact us. " The local paper, citing the Supervisor of Elections office as its source, told all people voting by absentee ballot that they could turn in ballots by hand to any of its seven offices by !5pmon Tuesday, Nov. 2. " Every single one of those offices except one was closed on Tuesday. " We had numerous calls from voters on Nov. 2 whose precincts had closed, yet the Supervisor of Elections office had given voters no notification of the closure, and no notification of where to go to vote. " Thousands of people were likely disenfranchised because of inexcusable mishaps such as this. We had many calls from people who had been harassed by poll workers, who were turned away without being allowed the right to vote provisionally (another breech of voter rights). Other people were turned away because the address on their driver's license did not match the address on their voter registration card; again, this is in direct violation of election law. " All of these problems do not even! take into account the 58,000 absentee ballots that had be en " lost " by the Supervisor of Elections, in perhaps the most democratic county in the state, disenfranchising thousands of people who were disabled, out of the country, or elderly and unable get to the polls. These events, and many others, have been documented and also reported to lawyers, but we fear they will not get the attention they deserve. This is what we witnessed in just one county. We believe that these " voting irregularities " raise serious concerns about the legitimacy of the results inFlorida, and more broadly, about the health of democracy in this country. " Libby Anker http://us.f412.mail! ./ym/ Compose?To=Libanker@b... & YY=73378 & order= down & sort=date & pos=0 & vi ew=a & head=b Ryan Center http://us.f412.mail./ym/ Compose?To=rcentner@b... & YY=73378 & order= down & sort=date & pos=0 & vi ew=a & head=b Jill Greenlee http://us.f412.mail./ym/ Compose?To=jillgs@s... & YY=73378 & order= down & sort=date & p os=0 & view=a & head=b Rachel Van Sickle-Ward rvansick@b... A list of media contacts: PLEASE NOTE:Here is a cut and paste for you to use in your email to the media contacts below that are listed with an email address. 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Guest guest Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 I know, he cheeted the first time and I'm sure he did again, BTW, I returned my Dell and had one built at a place called United computer technology, Inc. and I got a dealer discount just for telling them one of their distributors sent me. You can do the same the next time you want to buy a puter. Just ask me for the details. I'll send you a pic sometime, she's a dandy. 3 Ghz. and a gig of ram and I picked the componants and case. How's it going??? d On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:28:02 EST Fernwoods writes: > > > People-v-Ohio-n-Florida/message/2430 > > : People-v-Ohio-n-Florida Messages : Message 2430 of > 2502 > > Wow! More Vote Fraud Info > > > > apfn-1 , Rocky Ward <rachelleward2> > wrote: > > > From the Reader Letters @ > http://www.whatreallyhappened.com > ~Rocky > > > READER: > I am forwarding this on as there is much good information in it and > good contact lists at the bottom. Final tallies and reports from > the > international teams observing our elections are not in yet. I feel > it > is important to compile as much info as possible as this is the > ammunition we will need to use to get a paper trail. It is in bill > form and being pushed by Reid and Wexler I believe but the > Republicans are gearing up to fight any mandatory paper trail. > > WHO REALLY WON THE ELECTION... PLEASE READ THIS. > > Here are some more interesting websites on the elections of > November > 2, 2004: > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/ > > http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/shared/news/politics/stories > /11/05flavote.html > > http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,65623,00.html > > http://blackboxvoting.org/ > > http://votergate.tv/votergate/votergatethemovie_256kb.mov > > As someone stated: `What I don't understand is why this is not > front > page news?' Now here is a forwarded email WELL WORTH reading and > forwarding to your friends, colleagues and family. READ ON..... > > Friends, > > It has been five days since the election. > > In that time, accounts of voter fraud and malfunctioning voting > machines have flooded into local newspapers inOhio, to public- > interest groups, universities and weblogs. > > This message is an overview of those reports. > > The stories are summarized here, with links to the original > publications. After seeing this evidence -- and there is more still > to be rounded up -- I am no longer convinced that Bush won the > election. > > I hope you will read through these summaries, s to > the original stories, and come to your own conclusions. > > I've included all the accounts of election tampering ! ;that I'm > aware of, but have not done a broad search. This is only what I've > learned in the past five days. > > My education was provided by a group of concerned journalists who > posted reports to a chat list. This is a compilation of their > research. > > I believe there is enough evidence to suggest that the electorate > may > have actually chosen Kerry on Tuesday. We don't know for sure -- we > can't know till there is a recount. Or, if that's not possible > because of electronic voting machines, until the election is held > over inOhioandFlorida. > > FLOR! IDA: > > The most troubling news comes out of Florida. Throughout most of > the > state, new electronic voting machines were in use. These machines > -- > many manufactured by a company called Diebold -- are controversial > because they don't leave a paper trail. > > There is no way to double-check the results. > > The final Florida tallies on Diebold machines from Tuesday are > literally unbelievable. > > In 29 counties where Diebold machines (an optical scanner) were > used > to count the ballots, large majorities ! of voters were registered > Democrats. But the final results gave all the counties to Bush, > sometimes by huge margins. > > The individual county data shows how unlikely the machine results > were. > > For instance: > > In Calhoun County, 82% of registered voters are Democrats. But > Diebold machines said 63% of the county voted for Bush. > > In Lafayette County, 83% of voters are Democrats, but Diebold said > 74% of the county voted for Bush. > > In Liberty County, 88% of voters are Democrats, but Diebold said > 64% > voted for Bush. > > In Washington County, 67% of voters are Democrats, but Diebold said > 71% voted for Bush. > > This same pattern appears in the results for 29 COUNTIES in > Florida. > In every one of those counties, the Diebold Optical Scanner > produced > the results. > > The Optical Scanner has been called the voting machine that is > most! > susceptible to tampering. > > Many of you have been watching elections closely for years. Do you > believe that in 29 Florida counties in which Democrats were in the > majority -- in some cases with 4 out of 5 registered voters being > Democrats -- they all voted strongly for Bush? > > Here are the links. > > You can find the voter registration/final result data here: > > http://ustogether.org/Florida_Election.htm > > You can find a story analyzing these results here: > > http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1106-30.htm > > You can read about electronic voting machines -- an untested > phenomenon in American elections, here: > > http://www.moderateindependent.com/v2i21thoreau.htm > > THE OTHER PROBLEM IN FLORIDA: > > In 6 counties -- again, they were all using electronic machines -- > more votes for President were recorded than there were actual > voters > in the counties. > > Altogether, these six counties reported 188,885 more votes for > President than there are voters living there. > > Right now, no one knows whether those extra 188,000 votes were cast > for Bush or for Kerry. But Bush won the state ofFloridaby a 5% > margin -- contrary to what all the polls were showing only days > earlier. > > In Glades County: 2,443 votes for Bush / 1,718 votes for Kerry / 27 > votes for Other. Those add up to 4,188. But the machines recorded > the > official turnout as 3,446. That adds up to 742 more votes than > voters. > > In Highlands County: 25,874 for Bush / 15,346 for Kerry / 271 for > Other. Official Turnout: 33,996. That adds up to 7,495 more votes > than voters. > > In Miami-Dade County: 358,613 for Bush / 406,099 for Kerry / 3,841 > for Other. Official Turnout 716,574. That adds up to 51,979 more > votes than voters. > > In Osceola County: 43,108 for Bush / 38,617 for Kerry / 453 for > Other. Official Turnout 63589. That adds up to 18,589 more votes > than > voters. > > In Palm Beach County: 211,894 for Bush / 327,698 for Kerry / 3,243 > for Other. Official Turnout: 452,061. That adds up to 90,774 more > votes than voters. > > In Volusia County: 111,544 for Bush / 115,319 for Kerry / 1,495 for > Other. Official Turnout: 209,052. That adds up to 19,306 more votes > than voters. > > Use this link to get to the > data:http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/5/18466/2846 > > STILL MORE PROBLEMS INFLORIDA > > This account comes from partisans. Four Kerry volunteers working in > Broward County sent a letter detailing election tampering to one of > the reporters on our chat list. All four signed it and included > their > email addresses. > > They report a wide, disturbing range of problems, from voters > saying > their electronic machines malfunctioned, poll workers denied them > assistance, to police putting up roadblocks on the routes to > polling > places, and so on. > > The entire text of the letter, along with the signatures, appears > at > the bottom of this letter. > > OHIO > > In Ohio, there were problems in four counties and one city. > > In Howard County, a judge ruled on Election Day that everyone > standing in line to vote at7:30 p.m. had to event! ually be allowed > inside. > > The order said the ruling was good for the day of Nov. 2. (You can > view the order at the website below.) But maybe it didn't occur to > the judge that everybody might not make it inside bymidnight. > > At the stroke of midnight, when the calendar legally clicked over > to > Nov. 3, Republican Ken Blackwell, the secretary of state, told all > the waiting voters to go home. His workers gave them paper ballots > (i.e., provisional ballots), told them to fill them out and bring > them back later. > > It was an improvised move that undercut the intent of the judge's > ruling, and created chaos. Many people inHowardCountystill haven't > turned in those ballots because they don't know where to take them > or > what the deadline is. > > The only kind of ballot in a federal election that people can > legally > take home, fill out and turn in later is an absentee ballot, and > those are marked as such. They're marked with clear rules > concerning > deadlines, postmarking, and so on. > > So an uncounted number of people in Howard County--estimated in the > thousands-- couldn't get in and were turned away with what may be > ruled an illegal procedure. The vast majority of those votes wre > expected to go to Kerry based on the heavily Democratic population > ofHowardCounty. > > The Democrats have filed a lawsuit. You can click on the Ohio State > University law school website to read about it: > > http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:pKbOJwHH7OMJ:moritzlaw.osu.edu/ > electionlaw/analysis/ > 110304b.htm+Ohio+7:30+election+Blackwell+waiting+line & hl=en & start=4 & lr > = lang_en > > Meanwhile, in Warren County, election officials locked the doors to > the County building and refused to allow bi-partisan observers to > watch the vote-count. They also denied access to the AP reporter > (it > is standard procedure for the AP to observe vote-counting in > counties > all over the country.) > > The Sheriff of the county said he did it for " homeland security " > reasons. He never explained or specified what the security concerns > were. > > Here is the link to the story in the Cincinnati Enquirer: > http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/11/05/loc_warrenvote05.html > > Meanwhile, in aColumbussuburb calledGahanna, the same problem > showed > up with electronic machines that we saw in Florida: more votes were > cast than there were voters to cast them. In this case, however, > the > problem was investigated and the extra 3,893 votes were shown to > have > been erroneously tallied for Bush. > > Here is the link to the story on the Ohio Network News: > > http://www.onnnews.com/Global/story.asp?S=2524952 > > Meanwhile, in Mahoning and Mercer Counties, electronic machines! > again malfunctioned, but the effect that had on the vote count is > not > clear. The machines had to be re-set, and at one point showed votes > of " negative 25 million, " according to the head of the local board > of > elections. > > Here is the story from the local Youngstownpaper, called the > Vindicator: > > http://www.vindy.com/basic/news/281829446390855.php > > INDIANA > > In Laporte County, electronic voting machines once again appear to > have failed. > > They tallied results for 22,200 vote! rs, even though there are > 79,000 registered voters inLaPorteCounty. Assuming the county > actually had a 65% turnout rate (comparable to others in the area > and > its own track record), that means 29,000 votes were not counted. > > Here is the link to the story in the Michigan City News-Dispatch: > > http://www.michigancityin.com/articles/2004/11/04/news/news02.txt > > NEW HAMPSHIRE ! This is one of several states where original exit > polls (interviews with voters as they are leaving) do not jive with > the results produced by electronic voting machines. > > I was told by an administrator at Bev Harris's group, called > BlackBoxVoting (more on this below) that they are urging Ralph > Nader > to press for a recount inNew Hampshire. Nader was on the ballot > there, so he is in a good position to ask for a re-count. > > You can read about Harris and her work > athttp://www.blackboxvoting.org/. > > SIX STATES > > In at least six states, there was a large difference between how > people said they'd voted, and how officials said they'd voted. > > InFlorida,Ohio,Pennsylvania,North Carolina,New HampshireandNew > Mexico, there was a large discrepancy between what voters said in > the > original exit polls, and the final results claimed by election > officials. ! ; In each of those six states, electronic voting > machines were used in some or most of the counties. > > In contrast, in states where paper ballots were the primary method > of > voting, there was little or no discrepancy between original exit > polls and official results. > > To see an easily viewable graph of this data, go to > > http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/todays_show.html > > That graph was originally compiled by a website affiliated with The > Raw Story, which often gets quoted in the major dailies. So far as > I > know, it's a reputable site. > > You can see their original posting here: > > http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=388 > > MORE ON ! EXIT POLLS > > These are routinely conducted in elections by major news > organizations. Accounts are surfacing that both the Associated > Press > and CNN (and perhaps others) later CHANGED their exit polling data > to > more closely resemble the official results. > > So far as I know, none of the news orgs has offered an explanation. > They may try to justify it on statistical grounds. > > Here are two accounts. The first is very brief, the second is in- > depth: > > http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/04/11/ana04025.html > > http://globalresearch.ca/articles/KEE411A.html > > MORE ON ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES > > Here is an except from the Moderate Independent website about Bev > Harris's work. She is a freela! nce journalist who has been > documenting how unreliable the machines are, and how vulnerable > they > are to tampering. > > " Bev Harris, author of Black Box Voting and > theBlackBoxVoting.orgweb > site, has documented numerous cases of electronic disasters. One > occurred in Volusia County, Fla., in 2000 in which county election > officials hand recounted more than 184,000 paper ballots used to > feed > the computerized system, after the central ballot-counting computer > showed a Socialist Party candidate receiving more than 9,000 votes > and Al Gore getting minus 19,000. Another 4,000 votes were received > for Bush that should not have been there. > > " Election officials eventually tallied Gore beating Bush by 97,063 > votes to 82,214. But the wrong numbers had already been sent to the > media, which were used by FOX and other networks to erroneously > call > the election for Bush and swing the public relations part of the > recount battle in his favor. " > > I urge you to get familia! r with Harris and her work as quickly as > possible. & nbs p; Three Members of Congress Have Asked the GAO to > Investigate the Election > > Three Congressmen have asked the General Accounting Office, a > federal > agency, to investigate the election, citing questionable results > inOhio,Florida,North CarolinaandCalifornia. Click here to see their > letter to the GAO: > > http://forum.therandirhodesshow.com/index.php?act=ST & f=87 & t=34711 > > Remember These Four Points: > > -- Bush's approval numbers were consistently below 50% throughout > the > campaign. > > -- New Democratic registrations inOhiowere 10 times that of > Republicans, and inFlorida, Democrats held a similar but somewhat > smaller advantage. > > -- All the polls that were still giving Bush leads after the > debates > were within the margin of error, and when the undecideds started m! > aking up their minds over the last weekend, Kerry's poll n umbers > were surging. > > -- the $10 million exit-poll system, specifically designed not to > fail this time, clearly showed, in the original reports, a Kerry > victory. > > Other Voices to Hear: > > Other people besides me and the journalists I know are beginning to > question the legitimacy of the election. Here are some of them: > > http://www.tompaine.com/articles/kerry_won.php > > http://americablog.blogspot.com/archives/ > 2004_10_31_americablog_archive.html#109970362694815839 > > http://www.ecotalk.org/VotingSecurity.htm > > http://www.smirkingchimp.com/article.php?sid=18588 & mode= & order=0 > > Here is a report of voter complaints in 7 Southern states: > > http://www.abcnews4.com/news/stories/1104/185549.html > > Again, I urge you to realize that there may still be time to do > something about this before the Electoral College meets on December > 13th. > > The first step is to educate ourselves. The second step is to > educate > the mainstream media. The local and regional press, and the > alternative media, have been doing their jobs; no! w we need the > national press to do its job, too. > > If you are concerned about this election being stolen, please do > two > things: > > 1) Send your concerns to everyone you know, both inside and outside > theUnited States. > > 2) Send your concerns to the major news organizations. A list of > contacts appears at the end of this message. > > Sincerely, > > Donna Knipp, New York, N.Y. > > The Letter from Kerry Workers In Broward County, Fla.: > > " Spurred by the unwillingness of the broadcast media to report > voting > problems during the 2004 election race, we want to alert others to > the widespread voter suppression and disenfranchisement that > occurred > in Broward County, Florida. We staffed the emergency hotline for > the! > Kerry Campaign Headquarters inBrowardCountyfrom late October > through > the election. > > " All of us were devastated by the margin of Bush's win inFlorida, > particularly since polls predicted the race would be extremely > close. > > " Many of the calls to our hotline were from voters who had pressed > the " Kerry " button on their electronic voting screen, only to > have " Bush " light up as the candidate they had chosen. In some > cases, > this would happen repeatedly until about the 5th or 6th time the > voter pressed " Kerry " and eventually his name would light up. ! ; > In > other cases, the voters pushed " Kerry " but were later asked to > confirm their " Bush " vote. > > " We had calls about a road block, put up by the police at7amon Nov. > 2, which blocked road access to two precinct locations in majority > black districts. There was no justification for the road block – > no > accident or crime scene or construction. > > " Many of our calls dealt with voter suppression, or manipulation, > of > the Haitian population – occurrences which seem too numerous, and > their targets too indefensible, as primarily poor, > first-time-voter, > Creole-speaking refugees, to be anything but systemic. In one > example, a voter whose hands were bandaged could not press the > touch- > screen himself; he asked the nonpartisan election official to > press " Kerry " for him, but the election official pressed " Bu! sh " > and > sent his vote immediately into the machine. Many, many others were > denied the right to vote and were not given provisional ballots, > while others were refused assistance at the polls, even though > provisional ballots and voter assistance are legal rights. > > " Others were told they had already voted and were turned away, > although they had never voted previously. This latter experience > was > a complaint not isolated to Haitians but also included other > surprised voters with no recourse except their word against that of > the Supervisor of Elections. > > " We spoke with hundreds of voters who were certain they had > registered to vote in the past 6 months, well before the October 18 > deadline, but were not on the rolls. And those were just the people > who had the information to contact us. > > " The local paper, citing the Supervisor of Elections office as its > source, told all people voting by absentee ballot that they could > turn in ballots by hand to any of its seven offices by !5pmon > Tuesday, Nov. 2. > > " Every single one of those offices except one was closed on Tuesday. > > " We had numerous calls from voters on Nov. 2 whose precincts had > closed, yet the Supervisor of Elections office had given voters no > notification of the closure, and no notification of where to go to > vote. > > " Thousands of people were likely disenfranchised because of > inexcusable mishaps such as this. We had many calls from people who > had been harassed by poll workers, who were turned away without > being > allowed the right to vote provisionally (another breech of voter > rights). Other people were turned away because the address on their > driver's license did not match the address on their voter > registration card; again, this is in direct violation of election > law. > > " All of these problems do not even! take into account the 58,000 > absentee ballots that had be en " lost " by the Supervisor of > Elections, in perhaps the most democratic county in the state, > disenfranchising thousands of people who were disabled, out of the > country, or elderly and unable get to the polls. These events, and > many others, have been documented and also reported to lawyers, but > we fear they will not get the attention they deserve. This is what > we > witnessed in just one county. We believe that these " voting > irregularities " raise serious concerns about the legitimacy of the > results inFlorida, and more broadly, about the health of democracy > in > this country. " > > Libby Anker http://us.f412.mail! ./ym/ > Compose?To=Libanker@b... & YY=73378 & order= > down & sort=date & pos=0 & vi ew=a & head=b > > Ryan Center http://us.f412.mail./ym/ > Compose?To=rcentner@b... & YY=73378 & order= > down & sort=date & pos=0 & vi ew=a & head=b > > Jill Greenlee http://us.f412.mail./ym/ > Compose?To=jillgs@s... & YY=73378 & order= > down & sort=date & p os=0 & view=a & head=b > > Rachel Van Sickle-Ward rvansick@b... > > A list of media contacts: > > PLEASE NOTE:Here is a cut and paste for you to use in your email to > the media contacts below that are listed with an email address. > Simply cut and paste (highlight the string; then, control plus C) > this string into the " To " field in your email client. > > netaudr@a...; netaudr@a...; niteline@a...; 2020@a...; netaudr@a...; > info@c...; cnn.feedback@c...; comments@f...; world@m...; > nightly@n...; today@n...; dateline@n...; newshour@p...; > Ombudsmanombudsman@n...; atc@n...; morning@n...; letters@l...; > letters@n...; editor@u...; editors@i...; ombudsman@w...; > letters@n...; letters@t...; letters@u... > > Not all media contacts are listed with email addresses. Some will > have to be called or mailed with this information. > > ABC News 47 W. 66 St., New York, NY 10023 Phone: 212-456-7777 D.C. > Bureau phone: 202-222-7777 General e-mail:netaudr@a... ABC World > News > Tonight with Peter Jennings: Phone: 212-456-4040 Fax: 212-456-2795 > E- > mail:netaudr@a... Nightline: 1717 DeSales St., NW, Washington, DC > 20036 Phone: 202-222-7000 E-mail:niteline@a... 20/20: 147 Columbus > Ave., 10th fl, New York, NY 10023 Phone: 212-456-2020 Fax: 212-456- > 0533 E-mail:2020@a... ABC's Good Morning America: 147 Columbus > Ave., > New York, NY 10023 Phone: 212-456-5900 Fax: 212-456-7257 E- > mail:netaudr@a... CBS CBS News 524 W. 57 St., New York, NY 10019 > Phone: 21! 2-975-4321 Fax: 212-975-1893 D.C. Bureau phone: 202-457- > 4385 CBS Evening News with Dan Rather: Phone: 212-975-3691 or > 202-457- > 4385 Fax: 212-975-1893 The Early Show: Phone: 212-975-2824 Fax: > 212- > 975-7133 or 212-975-2033 60 Minutes: 555 W. 57th St., New York, NY > 10019-2985 Phone: 212-975-2006 Fax: 212-757-6975 60 Minutes II: > Phone: 212-975-6200 CNBC 2200 Fletcher Ave. > Fort Lee, NJ 07024 Phone: (201) 585-2622 Fax: (201) 583-5453 > Email:info@c... CNN One CNN Center, Box 105366, Atlanta, GA 30303- > 5366 Phone: 404-827-1500 Fax: 404-827-1906 E-mail: > cnn.feedback@c... > CNN Washington Bureau 820 First St. N.E., Washington, DC 20002 > Phone: > 202-898-7900 Fax: 202-898-7923 Crossfire Phone: 202-898-7655 Fax: > 202- > 898-7611 Larry King Live Phone: 202-898-7690 Fax: 202-898-7686 Fox > N! > ews Channel 1211 Ave. of the Americas New York, NY 10036 Phone: > (212) > 301-3000 Fax: (212) 301-4229 Email:comments@f... 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Guest guest Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 There is nothing that makes more sense than that charges of fraud are not part of the headline news in our journals and other print media these days, and even more clearly, not part of the evening news on TV. Most of media was pushing for a Bush win, as hard as they possibly could, despite a few notable exceptions. TV media, which has easily the most potent effect on the beliefs and fantasies circulating in the heads of the American voter, were so anxious for a Bush victory, that CNNs Wolf Blitzer could be heard on the eve of Nov. 2nd nearly begging Judy Woodruff for a " call " for Bush in Florida or Ohio. " Why can't we call it for Bush, " he asked, as if he were a man dying of thirst, with someone holding back a jug of water in front of him, to which Judy Woodruff replied that CNN had to abide by standards that would not yet allow them to make the call. What she meant was, that CNN had to " appear " to be abiding by these standards. It isn't the Republicans that are, or even can, keep the truth about the election from the masses of Americans, it's media, as it was in 2000; and we shouldn't be the least surprised. We've been had.......again. A quick look at the following is as telling as it needs to be. In 10 Democratic Counties in Florida there is an unbelievable twist to the voting of registered repubs. and dems. registered voted Rep Dem Rep Dem Baker 3126 8926 7738 2180 Calhoun 993 6879 3780 2116 Dixie 1454 7495 4433 1959 Franklin 1212 5893 3472 2400 Hamilton 1140 6029 2787 2258 Holmes 2344 7988 6410 1810 Lafayette 570 3570 2460 845 Liberty 320 3597 1927 1070 Madison 1695 9042 4195 4048 Suwannee 5885 13,941 11,153 4521 Dems lost by: and Repubs Gained by: Baker -68.4% +220% Calhoun -56.9% +433% Dixie -60.7% +358% Franklin -47.7% +268.1% Hamilton -43.6% +268.9% Holmes -70% +261.9% Lafayette -69.3% +459.3% Liberty -59.9% +712% Madison -38.7% +238% Suwannee -55% +163.1% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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