GOVERNEMNT INSIDER SAYS BUSH AUTHORIZED 9/11 ATTACKS

[Guest guest]

Government Insider Says Bush

Authorized 911 Attacks

 

Keep in mind when reading this, that the man being interviewed is no

two-bit internet conspiracy buff.

" This (9/11) was all planned. This was a government-ordered

operation. Bush personally signed the order. He personally authorized

the attacks. He is guilty of Treason and mass murder. " --Stanley

Hilton

Stanley Hilton was a senior advisor to Sen Bob Dole ® and has

personally known Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz for decades. This courageous

man has risked his professional reputation, and possibly his life, to

get this information out to people.

The following is from his latest visit to Alex Jones' radio show.

Forwarded with Compliments of Free Voice of America (FVOA): Accurate

News and Interesting Commentary for Amerika's Huddled Masses Yearning

to Breathe Free.

Note: All honor to Stanley Hilton for risking his life so that we may

know the truth of 9/11.

The Bush Junta Unmasked

Alex Jones interview of Stanley Hilton, attorney for 911 taxpayers'

lawsuit

Alex Jones Radio Show September 10, 2004 Transcription by 'RatCat'

AJ: He is back with us. He is former Bob Dole's chief of staff, very

successful counselor, lawyer. He represents hundreds of the victims

families of 9/11. He is suing Bush for involvement in 9/11. Now a

major Zogby poll out - half of New Yorkers think the government was

involved in 9/11. And joining us for the next 35 minutes, into the

next hour, is Stanley Hilton. Stanley, it's great to have you on with

us.

SH: Glad to be on.

AJ: We'll have to recap this when we start the next hour, but just in

a nutshell, you have a lawsuit going, you've deposed a lot of

military officers. You know the truth of 9/11. Just in a nutshell,

what is your case alleging?

SH: Our case is alleging that Bush and his puppets Rice and Cheney

and Mueller and Rumsfeld and so forth, Tenet, were all involved not

only in aiding and abetting and allowing 9/11 to happen but in

actually ordering it to happen. Bush personally ordered it to happen.

We have some very incriminating documents as well as eye-witnesses,

that Bush personally ordered this event to happen in order to gain

political advantage, to pursue a bogus political agenda on behalf of

the neocons and their deluded thinking in the Middle East. I also

wanted to point out that, just quickly, I went to school with some of

these neocons. At the University of Chicago, in the late 60s with

Wolfowitz and Feith and several of the others and so I know these

people personally. And we used to talk about this stuff all of the

time. And I did my senior thesis on this very subject - how to turn

the U.S. into a presidential dictatorship by manufacturing a bogus

Pearl Harbor event. So, technically this has been in the planning at

least 35 years.

AJ: That's right. They were all Straussian followers of a Nazi-like

professor. And now they are setting it up here in America. Stanley, I

know you deposed a lot of people and you've got your $7 million

dollar lawsuit with hundreds of the victim's families involved.

SH: 7 billion, 7 billion

AJ: Yeah, 7 billion. Can you go over some of the new and

incriminating evidence you've got of them ordering the attack?

SH: Yes, let me just say that this is a taxpayers' class action

lawsuit as well as a suit on behalf of the families and the basic

three arguments are they violated the Constitution by ordering this

event. And secondly that they [garbled] fraudulent Federal Claims

Act, Title 31 of the U.S. Code in which Bush presented false and

fraudulent evidence to Congress to get the Iraq war authorization.

And, of course, he related it to 9/11 and claimed that Saddam was

involved with that, and all these lies.

AJ: Tell you what, stay there. Stanley, we've got to break. Let's

come back and get into the evidence. BREAK

AJ: All right my friends, second hour, September 10th, 2004, the

anniversary of the globalist attack coming up tomorrow. It's an

amazing individual we have on the line. Bob Dole's former chief of

staff, political scientist, a lawyer, he went to school with Rumsfeld

and others, he wrote his thesis about how to turn America into a

dictatorship using a fake Pearl Harbor attack. He's suing the U.S.

government for carrying out 9/11. He has hundreds of the victims'

families signing onto it - it's a $7 billion lawsuit. And he is

Stanley Hilton. I know that a lot of stations just joined us in Los

Angeles and Rhode Island and Missouri and Florida and all over.

Please sir, recap what you were just stating and then let's get into

the new evidence. And then we'll get into why you are being harassed

by the FBI, as other FBI people are being harassed who have been

blowing the whistle on this. So, this is really getting serious.

Stanley, tell us all about it.

SH: Yeah, we are suing Bush, Condoleezza Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld,

Mueller, etc. for complicity in personally not only allowing 9/11 to

happen but in ordering it. The hijackers we retained and we had a

witness who is married to one of them. The hijackers were U.S

undercover agents. They were double agents, paid by the FBI and the

CIA to spy on Arab groups in this country. They were controlled.

Their landlord was an FBI informant in San Diego and other places.

And this was a direct, covert operation ordered, personally ordered

by George W. Bush Personally ordered. We have incriminating evidence,

documents as well as witnesses, to this effect. It's not just

incompetence - in spite of the fact that he is incompetent. The fact

is he personally ordered this, knew about it. He, at one point, there

were rehearsals of this. The reason why he appeared to be

uninterested and nonchalant on September 11th - when those videos

showed that Andrew Card whispered in his ear the [garbled] words

about this he listened to kids reading the pet goat story, is that he

thought this was another rehearsal.

These people had dress-rehearsed this many times. He had seen

simulated videos of this. In fact, he even made a Freudian slip a few

months later at a California press conference when he said he had,

quote, " seen on television the first plane attack the first tower. "

And that could not be possible because there was no video. What it

was was the simulated video that he had gone over. So this was a

personally government-ordered thing. We are suing them under the

Constitution for violating Americans' rights, as well as under the

federal Fraudulent Claims Act, for presenting a fraudulent claim to

Congress to justify the bogus Iraq boondoggle war, for political

gains. And also, under the RICO statute, under the Racketeering

Corrupt Organization Act, for being a corrupt entity. And I've been

harassed personally by the chief judge of the federal court who is

instructing me personally to drop this suit, threatened to kick me

off the court, after 30 years on the court. I've been harassed by the

FBI. My staff has been harassed and threatened. My office has been

broken into and this is the kind of government we are dealing with.

AJ: Absolutely and now it has come out - five separate drills of

flying hijacked jets into buildings that morning - which you told us

about before it even broke in the Associated Press. They were trying

to get out ahead of you. You talked about how you interviewed

military people who were told it was a drill that morning. Then to

get out ahead of that, the news finally reported on it. Now, we've

learned that all these operations - I want to get into that, I want

to talk about the new incriminating evidence of ordering it and how

they had drilled on this, how Cheney was in the bunker controlling

this. That has even come out in the mainstream news but they won't

release the details of that, Stanley. But what type of FBI harassment

are you going through?

SH: First of all, my office was burglarized in San Francisco several

months ago. Files were gone through and some files were seized -

particularly the ones dealing with the lady that was married to one

of the hijackers. Fortunately, I had spare copies in a hidden place

so nothing disappeared permanently. But more significantly, FBI

agents have been harassing one of my staff members and threatening

them with vague but frightening threats of indicting them. And it's

just total harassment. They have planted a spy, an undercover agent,

in my organization, as we just recently discovered. In other words,

these are Nazi Germany tactics. This is the kind of government you

have in this country. This is what Bush is all about.

AJ: Stay there, Stanley, Bob Dole's former chief of staff. We'll come

back after this quick break. Please stay with us. BREAK

AJ: All right, eight minutes, 25 seconds into the second hour.

Stanley Hilton, political scientist, lawyer, Bob Dole's former chief

of staff, is suing the government for 7 billion dollars for carrying

out 9/11 and for racketeering. And he joins us now. During the break,

I first really did the big interview with Stanley Hilton after I saw

him attacked on Fox News. And that interview got massive attention.

And then he kind of went underground for a while because a judge,

we're going to talk about that, ordered him to not do any more

interviews. And now he's back doing interviews. He's had his office

broken into, FBI threats and harassment. Bottom line, he has deposed

military individuals, wives of hijackers, you name it, it was a

government operation. It has even come out in mainstream news, a

piece here, a piece there. They had drills on 9/11, that's why NORAD

stood down. Cheney was in control of the whole thing. Stanley Hilton

has now gotten documents about how Bush ordered the whole operation.

And I'll tell you right now, his life is in danger, folks. And he's

got so much courage. He went to school with these neocons at the

University of Chicago. He wrote his thesis on how the government

could use terrorist attacks to set up martial law. He is the man for

the time and folks wondered why he disappeared for a while and just

did his lawsuit and wasn't doing interviews, it was because he was

ordered to. Stanley, can you get into that for us?

SH: I did an interview with you, Alex, back in March of 2003, about a

year and a half ago, and literally two weeks after that, I was

contacted by the emissary of the chief judge of the federal court

where I have the lawsuit. And I was warned not to publicize it but to

keep it quiet and threatened with discipline. And it remained quiet

until a couple of months ago and then I got on the air on some

programs and some publicity and July 1st, I was threatened directly

by the chief judge here, threatened with court discipline. This

particular judge has been circulating communiqués to the other

federal judges seeking anything negative she can get against me to

try and discipline me after I've been on the court here for 30 years

with no disciplinary problems at all. This is suddenly happening. And

her assistants who are on the committee of the court met with me on

July 1st in Palo Alto, California, and threatened me directly. They

handed me a copy of the lawsuit and said that the judge wants me to

dismiss this. What's this? She doesn't like the content of it. This

is politically incorrect. This is outside the norm. I said I

represented more than 400 plaintiffs, how am I going to dismiss this

case? And they threatened me directly and they said, " the next time

you'll be disciplined. " And also they've threatened me not to go

public, etc. And this is just outrageous.

AJ: It's all color of law. No direct orders, just all in your face.

SH: They sent a letter out, and of course they deny it's because of

the political content of the suit but they told me directly on the

phone that it is because of this suit and this judge is very, very

angry, apparently has been in contact with Ashcroft's Justice

Department. I got a call from Ashcroft's Justice Department a few

months ago about this, demanding that I drop the suit, threatening

sanctions and all kinds of things. I refused to drop it.

AJ: Now let's go back over, you had them break into your office,

harassment. Let's go over that in detail.

SH: My office was broken into about 6 months ago. The file cabinets -

it was obvious they had been rifled through. Files were stolen. Files

dealing with this particular case and particularly with the documents

I had regarding the fact that the - some of these hijackers, at least

some of them were on the payroll of the U.S. government as undercover

FBI, CIA, double agents. They are spying on Arab groups in the U.S.

And, in effect, all this led up to the effect that al Qaeda is a

creation of the George Bush administration, basically. That the

entity that he called al Qaeda is directly linked to George Bush. And

all this stuff was stolen. Fortunately, I had copies. But this was

just part of the harassment. The FBI has also been harassing some of

my assistants and has planted a spy in our midst. And it is just

outrageous that these Nazi tactics are being used - and the

obstruction of justice, these people are criminals. And that's what's

happening under the tremendous pressure here to just drop it. Or to

shut up now and just go away.

AJ: Now, let's talk about what they want you to drop. Let's talk

about, without giving names, the people you deposed, what really

happened, the picture you've got. You said earlier that Bush ordered

this, they were simulating this which they now admit there were

simulations on that morning. Let's go over what they don't want you

to talk about, Stanley.

SH: We have evidence both documentary as well as witness sworn

statements from undercover former FBI agents, FBI informants, etc.,

that other officials in the Pentagon and the military and the Air

Force that deal with the fact that there were many drills, many

rehearsals for 9/11 before it happened. Bush had seen this simulated

on TV many times. He blurted this out at a press conference in

California a few months after 9/11 where he said he had, quote, seen

the first plane hit the first building on the video. And that's not

possible because there was no official video of that. There was one

of the second plane not the first one. He had seen the first one. We

do have some incriminating documents that Bush personally ordered

9/11 events. It was well planned. A FEMA official has admitted on

tape that he was there the night before - September 10th, that is

AJ: And now Mayor Giuliani, a few months ago in the 911 Commission,

admitted that - Tripod II. They had their whole command post already

moved out of Building 7. Now, this is very, very important. This is a

key area of this whole event. You said months before it came out on

the CIA's own website and the Associated Press, you said I deposed

people. They said there were drills that morning and exactly what

happened, happening - that was the smoke-screen for the stand-down.

And then to get out ahead of it, the CIA comes out and said yeah we

were running a drill that morning. Now, we've learned that five,

possibly six, were confirmed. Five of these - one drill with the

exact same thing happening that actually happened, at the exact same

time in the morning. That's why NORAD stood down with 24 different

blips on the screen. You've said this. You brought this up first.

Now, I know you can't get too much into detail but can you tell us

how you learned of this?

SH: I have interviewed individuals in NORAD and the Air Force. I

personally toured NORAD many years ago around the time that I worked

for Dole. I'm very familiar with the operations at Cheyenne Mountain

at Colorado Springs, where NORAD is. Individuals that work in NORAD

as well as the Air Force have stated this, off the record, but the

point is, yes, this was not just five drills but at least 35 drills

over at least two months before September 11th. Everything was

planned, the exact location

AJ: But five drills that day.

SH: That day, that day, and Bush thought it was a drill. That's the

only explanation for why he appeared nonchalant

AJ: We also had NORAD officers and civilian air traffic controllers

going, " Is this part of the exercise? Is this a drill? "

SH: Yes.

AJ: On the tapes and in TV interviews, they thought it was, quote, a

drill.

SH: That's right. That's exactly what I said long before it became

public. I've known about this since earlier in March of '03, as I

stated before. This was all planned. This was a government-ordered

operation. Bush personally signed the order. He personally authorized

the attacks. He is guilty of treason and mass murder. And now,

obstruction of justice by attempting to use a federal judge and FBI

agents to inhibit a legitimate civil lawsuit in this country, in

federal court. Even a chief judge in this court tried to harass and

threaten me personally for representing legitimate plaintiffs. And

they got Clinton for allegedly lying under oath about Paula Jones and

now - look what's happening now. And Ken Starr used to be across from

me in Duke Law School in the early `70s and it´s interesting that he

got away with trying to get Clinton impeached, so we have a far worse

criminal sitting in the oval office today - somebody guilty of mass

murder as well as obstruction of justice.

AJ: Well, I mean look, they say they never heard of a plan to fly

planes into buildings - said it all over television - Rice, Bush,

Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft. And then we find out they were running

all these drills that morning. Even if they weren't involved, that

proves they were liars about ever hearing of such a plan.

SH: Well, I'm trying to take their depositions - I've been trying to

take their depositions for months. They've been trying to object to

it. They will have to admit they were either lying then or now. It's

clearly perjury either way. They are liars and perjurers; that's what

they are. These are the people that we have running this government

and, of course, they knew about it. How are they going to claim now

that they didn't know about these drills? Their idea is that nobody

knew anything. It's the old know-nothing mentality. And how anybody

considers this believable is beyond me.

AJ: All right, now people ask how could a huge organization, how

could the AWACs, how could the military let this happen; whereas

before, if your Cessna got off course for five minutes, they would

launch F-16s on you. It's real simple. It's what Stanley Hilton said

here a year and a half ago. It's what came out in the news after

that. The military, good people, were told this was all a drill. And

it was not a drill. And ABC News admits that Cheney was in control of

(?) out of the White House [?] and that he ordered the military to

quote " do something. " Our inside sources from Hilton and others say

it was a stand down and they admit they will not release that under

national security. Stanley?

SH: Well they are going to admit it, they're going to release it in

the court case because if you demand it under subpoena powers and

they must release it. And part of our lawsuit is brought in the name

of the U.S. because under the federal fraudulent [Claims Act], we

accuse the Bush Administration of presenting a fraudulent claim to

Congress. And under the statutes of Title 31 of the U.S. code, they

must release this information. That's why they are trying to threaten

me, harass me, invade my office, steal my files, commit blatant

obstruction of justice and other crimes to try and prevent a

legitimate civil suit from exposing these criminals and their acts of

treason and mass murder.

AJ: I think you need to publicly tell folks that you are not planning

suicide. Would you like to tell folks that?

SH: (laughs) I'm not planning suicide. I've got family and I'm not

planning that but I don't like the threats I'm under - but I can tell

you this, it's taking a toll emotionally on me and my staff. And

particularly, when you get a threat from the chief judge of your own

court.

AJ: Why have you decided to go public again after a year of being

under the radar?

SH: Because the more and more evidence that I've been adducing over a

year and a half has made it so obvious to me that this was now

without any doubt a government operation and that it amounts to the

biggest act of treason and mass murder in American history. I mean

George Bush makes Benedict Arnold look like a patriot. He makes

Benedict Arnold look like George Washington. I mean that's what we

have - a criminal and a traitor sitting in the White House pretending

he's a patriot, wrapping himself in the flag. And it's pretty

disgusting because the other side of the so-called opposition, the

Kerry camp is just saying nothing because they're afraid to speak.

AJ: Stay right there. We'll be right back

BREAK

AJ: Stanley Hilton will be with us for another 15 or 16 minutes. Then

he's got to go into court. Bob Dole's former chief of staff,

political scientist, lawyer, represents 400 plus plaintiffs - most of

them victims of 9/11. When I was in New York last week, everybody I

was talking to, I mean 90 plus percent of them at ground zero - " I

had family, I worked in the buildings, my son's a Navy Seal - he

called the night before and said don't go to work. " You know, all of

this, and then now they never had any idea - and it turns out they

had all these drills - and one drill of hijacked jets flying into the

World Trade Center and Pentagon at 8:30 in the morning. That morning -

come on people! And Stanley Hilton brought all this out on this show

before it was in the mainstream news. And I was talking to him during

the break. I mean, the harassment, the moles, the threatening of his

staff, the judge threatening him. Stanley, let's get specifically

into the documents that you have now got that they have now been

robbing you for, that you luckily, thank God had copies.

Specifically, Bush ordering this. Can you get into that for us -

ordering 9/11?

SH: National Security Council classified documents which [garbled]

and it's was part of a series of documents that were involved with

the drill documents. This was all planned - they had it on videotape.

These planes were controlled by remote control, as I stated

previously a year and a half ago, there's a system called Cyclops.

There is a computer chip in the nose of the plane and it enables the

ground control, the military ground control, to disable the pilot's

control of the plane and to control it and to fly it directly into

those towers. That's what happened.

It's also a technology used on what's called the Global Hawk, which

is an aircraft drone - a remote- controlled aircraft. And they were

doing it. We are talking about National Security Council classified

documents that clearly indicated that [garbled] had a green light to

order this to go and this is no drill. These drills that were running

were clearly a dress rehearsal and this was a government operation.

You wonder why these people are trying to threaten people and trying

to intimidate people who have written this suit, I guess if you

murdered 3000 of your own citizens, in conjunction with the corrupt

Royal family of Saudi Arabia as Bush did. And if you then waste

billions more on a worthless garbage war in Iraq, I guess you've got

something to worry about and you want to threaten people to prevent

it from coming out.

AJ: I mean let's look at this. Not only are there dress rehearsals,

they are smoke screens so the good military stands down and doesn't

know what's happening. But it's now coming out, even in mainstream

news, that yes these drills were going on. Yes, and some of these

drills, quote, passenger-type jets were under remote control - this

is decades old technology.

In 1958, NORAD was using old jets and using them for target practice.

Decades ago they flew jumbo jets from LA to Sidney Australia. So

since that's going on, everybody knows that. And it's the same MO.

Just like the first World Trade Center [bombing] where they get two

retarded men who followed this blind sheik who had a tiny mosque

above a pizza parlor. And they set them up as the patsies. Then the

FBI cooks the bomb, trains the drivers. This informant goes, " You're

not going to bomb the building? They go " Yeah, we're letting it go

forward. " He tapes them to protect themselves. The two retarded

gentlemen, thank God, didn't park it up against the column, as the

FBI instructed them to do, so it didn't bring down the tower -

because you have to be right up against the column. That doesn't

happen.

Yet, it's the same thing with 9/11. You've got these CIA agents,

these Arabs, who were trained at U.S. military bases, Pensacola Naval

Air Station - mainstream media, out creating their legends for this

background. They're on board the aircraft. My military sources say

nerve gas kills everybody on board the plane - nerve gas packets.

Then they fly the planes into buildings. From your inside sources, is

that accurate?

SH: It's one of the things that we are looking into - that nerve gas

or something else disabled people. It's possible I can't say for sure

to be honest with you

AJ: All you know is they were government agents and they were on

board and the planes were remote controlled.

SH: Yeah, it was basically a smokescreen. I mean, the events of the

hijackings, how someone snuck in those cutters, it was a plant. It

was like a classic decoy. I've got some military background. And it's

called decoy. It's a decoy operation. You make the people focus on

the decoy to avoid looking at the real criminals. So they are

focusing on these so-called nineteen hijackers and saying, " Oh, it

must have been these Arabs. When, in fact, the guilty person is at

1600 Pennsylvania Avenue - sitting in the oval office. That's the

guilty person. That's the one who authorized it. There is only one

man who could have authorized this operation and that's Bush. And

anyone at NORAD will tell you as I have been told personally at NORAD

in the war control room, there is only one man who has the power to

do this kind of thing and that's Bush. Even though many believe he's

a puppet. And I think in many ways he is. The fact of the matter is

where was Cheney, Rumsfeld and these other traitors. The fact is

Bush personally ordered and he's guilty and liable and he's going to

be re-elected apparently because the media's asleep and [garbled] for

Bush.

AJ: Well, the media is owned by the same military industrial complex

that carried out the attacks.

SH: Yeah, the media is only interested in maintaining the official

government fantasy that this was a little lone Arab. These Arabs

couldn't even steer that plane down a runway.

AJ: Stay there Stanley, final segment coming up.

BREAK

AJ: Mr. Hilton, when you talk to these FBI agents, when you talk to

these military men and women, what's their attitude? They've got to

be pretty freaked out to have the big picture and know what actually

happened on 9/11.

SH: Yes, you know it's like clouds just before a thunderstorm in the

sense that they are sort of pregnant with rage. They are just enraged

at the criminal politicians who have perverted and misused the

government to murder its own citizens and pursue these dubious

political ends. And many of them, in increasing numbers, are willing

to talk and will talk under subpoena - but only under subpoena

because the official party line of the government is shut up and

don't talk to the trial lawyer. But more and more, they are very

outraged that part of the government has done this to its own people,

to its own people. I mean you have to go back to Stalin to see

something - not even Hitler did this to his own people. You have to

look at Stalin who murdered the Kulaks, the Russians for his own

dubious gains. Also we've got - we have a Stalinist mentality in this

country. And, if these people pose as patriots and wrap themselves in

the flag, it's disgusting. I wanted also to point out that the

Japanese television network, Asahi, is going to be airing a special

on primetime tomorrow, on September 11th. They interviewed me for

eight hours a couple of weeks ago. I'll be on that. I wish - of

course, the America media don't care so they are not going to care.

But in Japan, people are very serious in interviewing me and others.

And we have a website now, called deprogram.info, if more people are

interested: www.deprogram.info. But the other thing, I just wanted to

say that if anything happens to me - and I don't know why - because

I'm being threatened here now. And it seems you can't bring a case in

this country anymore against criminals in power without being

threatened. And this is how they operate. The stakes are pretty high

when you've got a world historical level of treason and fraud by this

government against it's own people. I guess this is what you have to

expect.

AJ: Stanley, the globalists, the new world order crowd, definitely

intend to carry out more terror attacks. I know they would have

carried out more attacks if we wouldn't have done what we've been up

to, if you wouldn't have been out there boldly speaking out and many

others. And then their electronic Berlin wall has a bunch of cracks

in it now. Thanks to good people like yourself and many others who

are speaking out and telling the truth. But do you think that they

may carry out what they've been hyping - a suitcase nuke attack, a

biological release to try to smokescreen all of this? I know it's a

catch 22, you've got to expose the murderers. We've got to get the

word out on this but some government people that I've talk to

say, " Yeah, but if you do that, they are going to go even more hard

core and must totally try to take over. " But I say regardless, they

are already doing that. So what do you say to that?

SH: Well, yeah, I think they have an agenda. They have contingency

plans. I think they are laying low now because there are an

increasing number of people, like myself, who are openly challenging

them and accusing them of criminal conduct. I think they would have

done it again if we had not spoken up. I think they're planning, what

they would like to do is silence any dissenters. That's why we are

trying to get the Patriot Act declared unconstitutional in this

lawsuit also.

AJ: Let's talk about polls. In the beginning a patriot is a scarce

man, hated and feared, but in time when his cause succeeds, the timid

join him, because then it costs nothing to be a patriot. You are one

of those guys who hit the barbwire for us, or figuratively jumped on

the hand grenade for America. But when you've got a Zogby poll, who

is highly respected, half of New Yorkers believe that the government

was involved. When you have a Canadian poll, 63% on average believe

that the U.S. government was involved. And some groups, as high as

76% in polls believe the government was involved. European polls, two-

thirds show the same thing. We have German defense ministers and

technology ministers and another member of their government now,

three of them going public, known conservatives, and progressives.

You have an environment minister, Michael Meacher, saying that if

they didn't do it, they sure as hell knew what was going on. Look, if

anybody who is a thinking person looks at the evidence, their

official story is impossible. Then you investigate and they are

involved in it. Comments to this massive awakening and what's

happening.

SH: Well, I think that's why they want the Patriot Act to suppress

political dissent. They have to, they're anticipating, they are not

dumb individuals. I know these people personally, Wolfowitz. These

are criminal individuals but they are smart and so they anticipated

political dissent. And that's why, like the Nazis, their forebears,

and their blood brothers, the Nazis and the Stalinists, they're all

for political repression. Every corrupt and criminal government has

done this - they suppress their own people: Nazi Germany, Communist

Russia, Mao Tse-Tung, that's why we have the Patriot Act. So it's

hand in hand. They had it planned to go right up to September 11th,

this was all part of the plan. You have to do it. It was part of my

senior thesis. You must follow through the terrorists attacks with a

political suppression mechanism in the law. And that's why they want

Patriot I and Patriot II and their plans are to continue launching

more terrorist attacks to justify even more repression. The goal is

to make this a one party dictatorship in this country, to pursue

their dubious ends with their blood brothers like the Saudi Royal

family. And also, historical blood brothers, such as the Nazi Germany

and the Communist Russian. That's the goal

AJ: You've got to go in just a minute or two. But I wanted to also

tell you about New York. (The RNC Convention) Sound cannons that are

used in Iraq, they're against us. Men in black ski masks. 41,000

police, accredited media being arrested randomly. Children being

arrested, people in wheelchairs, 2000 plus people put in a camp with

barbwire fences inside with no bathrooms. You had to have permission

to go to the porta-potties. Police screaming at you. It had nothing

to do with terrorism. They are openly setting the precedent for

martial law.

SH: Well, that's right, the word terrorist is now being overly broad

and overly defined [garbled] and also, you know, it's like the word

communist was used for anything during the McCarthy witch hunt. And

anybody can be called a terrorist by Bush's definition. But the irony

is that the number one terrorist in the world is living at the White

House at the oval office today. That's the real irony. For sheer

hypocrisy, I think he deserves the world prize and ought to be in the

Ripley book, Believe It or Not, and the Guinness book of world

records for sheer brazen chicanery and fraud.

AJ: Let me ask you a question on this because this is the experience

that I had. Watching television, watching the killers, watching those

that are guilty, stand up there as our saviors is incredibly painful.

It's like watching Ted Bundy being the judge at his own trial. I mean

it is just painful to know who these people are. To see them putting

America in a shredder. Now we are going to have forced psychological

testing of every American, forced drugging, you know Pan-American

unions, I mean it's just all happening, it's in our face, Stanley.

SH: Yeah, it's very disturbing and as one who has studied the theory

and concept of dictatorships, I personally interviewed Albert Speer,

who was Hitler's armaments minister. I interviewed him in 1981 in

Munich. And I've studied the psychology and history of

totalitarianism and there is no question that it's very frightening.

And it has, today, with high technology, albeit for the first time in

history, the chance of having a world empire dominated by corrupt,

technologically oriented government - an elite government. And

they've got now what people like Napoleon and Hitler didn't have,

which is the technological means to dominate not only their own

country but others - the world.

AJ: The answer is to expose them as the terrorists, to show how PNAC

[Project for the New American Century] said we need helpful Pearl

Harbor events, to show how Northwoods called for the exact 9/11-style

attacks, to show their own plans. And to force people to face this

horror. What are they going to do in a year or two when 80% of us,

not half of us, know the truth?

SH: Well, that's why they want repression and, then again, the

ancient old diversion, launch another terrorist attack to get people

to pitch it away. I mean who knows what they'll do next. I mean their

capacity for ingenious creation of these events is sort of unraveled.

I mean there is no limit. My guess is they are going to try another

stunt - maybe a stunt just before the election to justify getting

Bush reelected. Although it seems like he is running against a straw

man or a ghost right now, anyway. But, my guess is they'll try some

other tactic to get people's attention away from 9/11 if it gets to

be too much attention. What you really want is for the public to just

lose interest because the public - and it's like remember the Alamo,

you know, people don't forget things like that. To me it's like the

Alamo, remember 9/11, that ought to be the slogan for this outrageous

act of treason. That's what it is. It's not

AJ: We are at a crossroads, I don't think they anticipated this much

resistance, Stanley.

SH: Yeah, I hope they are truly wrong and as incompetent as they are

corrupt and guilty. That means their incompetence is exceeded only by

their corruption and their guilt. And eventually, if enough people

are going to get outraged enough, these people in the bureaucracy and

in the civil service and our military, and eventually we can get

people under subpoena these individuals will be exposed.

AJ: Stanley, their whole operation hinges on us being naïve and not

recognizing evil. This is what they got with Hitler and others.

People couldn't recognize evil so they continued to repeat succumbing

to it. We are recognizing it this time. We are putting our lives, our

treasure, our future on the line for freedom because we cannot let

these blood-thirsty control freak terrorists capture us and use us

and turn us into the empire and have a draft and use us as their

slaves to invade the planet. And that's their PNAC plan. Stanley

Hilton, I know you've got to get to court. God bless you. I want to

thank you for being here with us today. Can we get you back on next

week?

SH: Sure, just give me a call.

AJ: God bless you my friend. Any closing comments?

SH: My closing comments would be, I think people ought to just think

about the consequence of having someone like Bush in the White House

and the danger for the future that these sorts of individuals pose.

This is not just a historical event of the past. This is part of the

plan and the camera is still rolling. They have an agenda. These

individuals are extremely dangerous. They are armed and dangerous.

They pose a clear and dangerous threat to every freedom-loving person

not only American but in the whole world.

AJ: You are absolutely right Stanley Hilton. They have captured the

government. They have not captured the peoples' minds and they are

counting on us not facing up to it.

SH: And they are counting on the repressive Patriot Act and threats

and chief judges and FBI agents threatening people who are exposing

them. That's what they are counting on.

AJ: But you're not backing down are you, my friend.

SH: No, I'm not

AJ: Well, we all stand with you, my brother, and God bless you.

SH: All right. Thank you.

To hear Alex's interview with Stanley Hilton -

http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/091204hilton.htm