Guest guest Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Dr Lance wrote: > Fri, 15 Oct 2004 08:36:32 -0400 > <DrLance >Vioxx Manufactured by American Co. in Britain > > >Please post on alternative medicines a few more >of the details of the AMERICAN company in >Britain that >had already shipped tainted flu vaccine to >America knowing it was contaminated and 1/2 the >supply of vaccine was not shipped because the >BRITISH saved the Americans with their >regulations protecting the public. > >I guess in this instance, we should be glad that >those jobs were sent oversees. > >Ironic, wasn't it to hear Bush's lies that he >makes Americans pay for for criminalizing their >attempt to have money to pay for food in savings >for their drugs refusing to let them buy them >from Canada because he wants to maks sure it's > " safe " . > >Dr. Sandra Lance, D.C. Here are several posts I found on Jon Rappoport's excellent site http://www.nomorefakenews.com and saved away in case the need arises... Kind regards Sepp The articles are in reverse order, the latest on top, earliest at the bottom. There are several about Chiron Corporation, the Flu vaccine maker and the fact that some (several million doses) of the vaccines have already been shipped to the US. It's probably best to read from bottom up... FLU DEATHS PER YEAR IN US OCTOBER 15, 2004. John Cullison has sent me the CDC's own flu death stats (the real ones) for several years. Flu Pneu ----- ----- 1999 1665 62065 2000 1765 63548 2001 257 61777 2002 753 65231 (No 2003 stats yet.) Of course, these stats are quite different, quite different, quite different from what the CDC tells the press and public (36,000 deaths per year). Column one is flu. Column two is pneumonia. Have a nice day. For new readers who have just come on board and want to know where Cullison found these revelations, go to my archive and read my recent articles. JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com YIPEE-TIE-YIE-yAAY, THE FLU IS HERE OCTOBER 15, 2004. From WISN online, we get this boggling little news story: 'Just what we didn't need - the flu season has arrived early in Wisconsin . The state division of health says lab tests confirmed a Waupaca County woman had the state's first influenza case. She already has recovered. The flu season typically starts in November or December in Wisconsin ... so it's at least a couple weeks early this time. State health officials say it's impossible to predict the length or severity of the flu season. U-S health officials, meanwhile, are scrambling to find ways to make up for a shortage of flu shots now that the nation's supply of vaccine has been cut in halfŠ' The rubes talking to the rubes. The state division of health actually believes they have found the FIRST case OF THE SEASON. It's like blowing the horn for the beginning of deer-hunting season. And the woman has already recovered. Wow, the whole thing took place in the blink of an eye. Sick, well. A groundhog-type thing. Yesterday in Wisconsin, there was no flu. Nope. But today there is. Yup. The gosh darn season is underway. You see, the flu bugs line up offshore, and when the horn sounds, they come flying in. This year, it was a couple of weeks early. Wow. I guess that means it'll end a couple of weeks early, so we can drive down to Aunt Martha's for her birthday and not have to worry about all those flu bugs smashing on our windshield. JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com IDEAL COVER STORY FOR FLU VACCINE BEING FLOATED OCTOBER 14, 2004. You've seen the press reports. Flu vaccine stolen from a doctor's office, now on the black market. Some flu jabbers charging $80 to $100 dollars a shot. Outrageous. Criminal. The CDC is running down these people. Will prosecute. Well, I'm sure there is some truth to these tales. That's what makes a great cover story. What's behind it, though? The fact that somewhere between 6 and 27 million contaminated Chiron flu shots were shipped into the US BEFORE the ban was put on Chiron. Notice how THIS story is fading from press accounts. A few days ago, Reuters reported that the CDC was trying to track down pharmacies and doctors' offices and clinics where the Chiron shots may have been shipped from US distributors' warehouses. But now, that revelation is taking a back seat to the more gut-level tales of people overcharging for a jab. I'm sure we'll be getting coverage of " unscrupulous Doctor X " who offered patients a flu shot for $90 and this mother couldn't afford it so her son has to go without his vaccine and the whole family is worried he'll get sick and die because he gets very sick every fall from the flu and the kid has a guitar he loves and he wants to sell it to have the money for the shot but his mother says he loves that guitar and he's in a little rock band in kindergarten at school and it's the only thing that gives him a sense of self-worth and the kid's father left the family in the lurch four years ago because he was drinking and he said goodbye to his son one day after he dropped him off at school and the son hasn't seen him since and now a local businessman has ponied up the $90 and the kid can get the shot and the businessman is putting together a group that's donating money for free shots but there isn't enough vaccine available so the group is flying in vaccine from Canada and they hope it arrives in time but there is always a chance that in transit the vaccine won't be frozen at the right temperature and so it will be spoiled and contaminated and no one is sure what to do and the county medical association hopes it can examine the vaccine and test it but it doesn't have sophisticated equipment so they're appealing to health officials at the state capitol where they do have the equipment but there's so much red tape and meanwhile there are pickets outside Doctor X's office and he said he never said $90 and it was all a misunderstanding but now he doesn't have any vaccine left and he has retained a lawyer and he's suing Chiron because it's all their fault and Chiron states it acted in good faith... JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CHIRON VACCINE IN 2003? OCTOBER 14, 2004. Here is an excerpt from a WebMD article dated December 11, 2003, written by Daniel DeNoon. The headline was FLU WIDESPREAD OVER NEARLY HALF OF US. The piece, from last year, mainly pumped up hysteria about the 2003 flu season---which turned out to be relatively light when all was said and done. The most explosive paragraph, in retrospect, concerned Chiron: " Meanwhile, U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson announced today that the government will buy the last remaining 100,000 doses of the adult vaccine from Aventis Pharmaceuticals. It's also buying the last 150,000 doses of pediatric vaccine from that manufacturer, although shipment of the pediatric dosage won't happen until January. Thompson and the FDA also are looking into buying -- and licensing -- some 500,000 doses of a Chiron Corp. flu vaccine approved in Europe but not the U.S. " So the question is, did the FDA go ahead and buy 500,000 flu shots from Chiron (shots that had not been approved as safe by the FDA), and did those shots get into the arms of Americans? If so, does the FDA have the lot numbers and can it track what happened to the people who were injected? I have a strong feeling, based on experience, that if I call the FDA, I will get the run-around. However, reporters from major outlets might have more luck, if they press it. SO PRESS IT. JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com BUSH WISDOM ON THE FLU VACCINE OCTOBER 14, 2004. Here is a brief excerpt from last night night's presidential debate. It involves the flu vaccine. My comments are in brackets. SCHIEFFER: New question, Mr. President, to you. We are talking about protecting ourselves from the unexpected, but the flu season is suddenly upon us. Flu kills thousands of people every year. Suddenly we find ourselves with a severe shortage of flu vaccine. How did that happen? BUSH: Bob, we relied upon a company out of England to provide about half of the flu vaccines for the United States citizen, and it turned out that the vaccine they were producing was contaminated. And so we took the right action and didn't allow contaminated medicine into our country. [THE COMPANY IS AMERICAN. CHIRON. HEADQUARTERED IN CALIFORNIA. IT HAS A PLANT IN LIVERPOOL, ENGLAND.] We're working with Canada to hopefully -- that they'll produce a -- help us realize the vaccine necessary to make sure our citizens have got flu vaccinations during this upcoming season. My call to our fellow Americans is if you're healthy, if you're younger, don't get a flu shot this year. Help us prioritize those who need to get the flu shot, the elderly and the young. [The ones who are most likely to have a severe adverse effect from the vaccine.] The CDC, responsible for health in the United States, is setting those priorities and is allocating the flu vaccine accordingly. I haven't gotten a flu shot, and I don't intend to because I want to make sure those who are most vulnerable get treated. [ " Ain't gonna catch me getting that shot. Remember when Tommy Thompson said there was a vial of smallpox vaccine with every American's name on it, and then I got my shot, and later he said the vaccine was dangerous and he was advising every member of cabinet not to get it, and there I was with my ass hanging out in the breeze? " ] We have a problem with litigation in the United States of America. Vaccine manufacturers are worried about getting sued, and therefore they have backed off from providing this kind of vaccine. [spin, baby, spin. Obviously, you know nothing about the federal program of compensation for vaccine-injury victims. The program everybody has to go through before they sue a vaccine manufacturer, the program where it takes years going up against gov lawyers to get a few dollars through corridors of a Kafka-like hell.] One of the reasons I'm such a strong believer in legal reform is so that people aren't afraid of producing a product that is necessary for the health of our citizens and then end up getting sued in a court of law. [Cronyism plus sheer idiocy. If a drug company makes a product that injures or kills somebody, there is no recourse to sue?] But the best thing we can do now, Bob, given the circumstances with the company in England is for those of us who are younger and healthy, don't get a flu shot. End of debate excerpt JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com THE HYPNOTIC EFFECT OF NUMBERS OCTOBER 13, 2004. These days, the CDC or the World Health Organization can report a new disease outbreak, and no matter how small the actual case numbers are, if the media package is wrapped in the proper tone of warning/hysteria backed up with scientific giggle-gaggle, everybody bows down and worries. This is a major feat of PR. The public has pretty much abandoned its own sense of what numbers mean. Hell, most people have no idea how many people live in the US, any other nation, or the world. Let us take three situations. SARS, so-called avian flu, and West Nile Disease. First of all, as I have covered in past articles, there is no convincing proof that West Nile and SARS have ever been isolated as distinct viruses. So, right from the start, we're treading on very thin ice. Anyway, since SARS was named, WHO stats show that 8096 human cases have occurred, worldwide, and there have been 774 deaths. Since January 28, 2004, WHO reports 43 cases of human avian flu, and 31 deaths. Globally. The CDC states there are no reliable estimates for West Nile Disease in humans, worldwide. In the US, since 1999, there have been 9122 reported cases of serious WN Disease, and 628 people have died. I could add various limiting qualifiers to these stats (which would lower case numbers), but I'll forego that here. Think about the stats, and try to put them in some sort of context. People die all the time. Millions, for example, die of starvation. 100,000 people in the US alone die from the correct administration of FDA-approved medical drugs every year. It is certain, in the SARS, WN, and avian flu situation, that some of the deaths have resulted from a combination of prior illness plus toxic medical drugs. All in all, we are talking about a drop in the bucket, when it comes to death and West Nile, avian flu, and SARS. Yet, people are looking over their shoulders for a virus with teeth and claws. And when they get sick, they accept whatever their doctors tell them. I bring all this up, because I think that the recent John Keller revelations about VERY, VERY FEW PEOPLE DYING FROM FLU IN THE US EVERY YEAR are flying right into the radar of the public, which reflects: " Any number of deaths is frightening, no matter how few, as long as the CDC or WHO claims it's a threat to us all. " A million, 36,000, a thousand, seven hundred, four. It doesn't matter. People don't make distinctions. What matters is the tone of the announcement and who is announcing it. That, my friends, is called slavery, is called fascism. And although it may not be immediately apparent, the people who are wielding the spin are ultimately after political power. There is one more factor to add in. The word is CONTAGION. The public has been conditioned up to its eyeballs to view POSSIBLE contagion as a dire threat, even when it doesn't pan out. Even when, in the matter of so-called SARS in Hong Kong, it was discovered that a quarter of all the cases being reported centered on the Amoy Apartments complex, where feces were leaking through toilet pipes from apartment to apartment. Fecal-borne illness doesn't need people with samples under microscopes, doesn't need spinning centrifuges, in a hunt for viruses. That doesn't cure anyone. Plumbers cure people. JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com VERY FEW PEOPLE DIE FROM THE FLU OCTOBER 13, 2004. Two days ago, I posted a long piece which made a case for the fact that, in the US, very few people die from the flu. As of this morning, that piece is still on this page. See last story on this scroll. John Keller started the ball rolling with a report that exposed the CDC's own death stats---once pneumonia had been broken away from the eternal CDC category called " pneumonia/flu. " Keller found, online, the CDC's flu-death stats for 2002 and 2001. Total for the two years? Slightly more than 1000. Far, far, below the tired old 36,000-per-year figure the CDC trots out at the beginning of every so-called flu season. Two other readers of this site, John Cullison and Martin Maloney, searched and confirmed Keller's discovery. A third reader came on board with the same results. Make no mistake about it. This is an astounding find. It undermines and undercuts the US government's ceaseless pounding to " get a flu shot. " So far, no mainstream news outlet has picked up on Keller's report. And, as far as I can tell, very few alternative news outlets have, either. Of course, if queried, the CDC will tell you that its welded pneumonia/flu category is necessary because, quite often, flu leads to pneumonia. This is a generality, and as with most generalities, it is passed from hand to mouth without detailed investigation. Such an investigation would, first of all, confirm analyses of a great number of flu cases in which flu viruses have actually been found in patients (viruses, not antibodies to viruses) in very, very large numbers. (Very, very large numbers of flu viruses in each patient.) Step two would consist of showing that in these genuine flu cases, pneumonia often follows. THAT would entail isolating pneumonia germs (not antibodies) in very large numbers, in these patients. Why am I so insistent on the finding of large numbers of germs in a given patient? Because that is what you need to say that the germs are contributing to illness. Just as it takes many people to dig up a huge field with small shovels, it takes many, many germs to contribute to disease in a patient. (Even then, the map is incomplete, because prior to the " germ invasion, " something else has gone wrong with the patient. His immune defense was weakened, as a result of non-germ factors: poor nutrition, unsanitary living conditions, overcrowding, contaminated water, toxic medical drugs, chemical insult, and so on.) I would be quite willing to look at well-done studies which show, in the manner I have described, that pneumonia often follows flu. I don't mean pilot studies with a few patients. I mean studies that analyze several thousand patients at a time. Show them to me. Doctors or researchers who say, " Oh yes, I've often seen flu lead to pneumonia, " or " Everyone in the field knows that flu leads to pneumonia, " are ruled out. That is hearsay and rumor. Beyond the well-done studies I am asking for, it would be necessary to confirm that flu progressing into pneumonia often results in death. Because that is what we are talking about. Death stats. At this point, I see absolutely no reason for the CDC to lump flu with pneumonia in one category and list deaths for both as one stat. In which case, we fall back on Keller's discovery that, by the CDC's own admission, buried deep in its files, very few people die from the flu. Which creates yet another reason to look with amazement on all this fear-mongering surrounding getting flu shots. I'd venture to say that, in my brief appearance on the Coast to Coast AM radio show Monday night, only a small number of the 5-10 million listeners registered my mention of Keller's revelation. It was too startling. It came out of the blue. It was against the grain of so much government/medical propaganda. In the same way, media outlets are hesitant, to say the least, to pick up on this. It sounds preposterous. " Well, if what you're saying is true, then why is the government doing so much to... " " How could this be? " " Why would the CDC trumpet 36,000 deaths a year from the flu when its own figures contradict that? " I am personally immune to such wondering, because for the last 20 years, as a reporter, I have run into this type of situation over and over. You would do well to read or re-read my long piece at the bottom of this scroll. It contains information that is a key to understanding the situation behind the situation we are now witnessing vis-a-vis Chiron and the flu-vaccine scandal of 2004. John Keller's original report can be found at: www.lewrockwell.com/keller/keller20.html# John Cullison's report (which adds details to Keller) can be found at: www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=74 & i=576 JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com THE NEW FLU-VACCINE STRATEGY OCTOBER 12, 2004. With the Chiron scandal playing WE CAN'T GIVE YOU NO VACCINE in the background, the CDC is mounting a " concerned and responsible " campaign to get flu shots into the arms of the " people most at risk. " Babies (immune systems yet unformed); the elderly (immunocompromised from a lifetime of medical drugs and bad food and a belief that the future is all downhill); people who have other illnesses (drugged to the gills), and so on. The thing is, these are the people most likely to have severe effects from vaccines. You know, heavy metals in the vaccines. Multiple germs. Doing what is obvious to create or restore good strong general health is the best protection against the flu. Of course, under the current brainwashing model, these " at risk " people and their parents will be cutting into long lines, throwing punches, getting special favors from their doctors---whatever it takes---to find that vaccine. Make something scarce, make people drool for it...the old game. Watch it unfold, day by day, before your eyes. JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com CHIRON'S CANCER DRUG, PROLEUKIN OCTOBER 12, 2004. Chiron manufactures a cancer drug called Proleukin. At RXList, I checked the adverse effects, but decided to stop at the effect called death: " The rate of drug-related deaths in the 255 metastatic RCC [Renal Cell Cancer] patients who received single-agent PROLEUKIN® (aldesleukin) was 4% (11/255); the rate of drug-related deaths in the 270 metastatic melanoma patients who received single-agent PROLEUKIN was 2% (6/270). " Note well: this category is not " death due to cancer, " it is related to Proleukin. Now you may think a 4% or 2% death rate (not even mentioning serious effects and life-threatening effects) is low. That is up to you. I don't think it's low. I think that if an herb or vitamin were killing cancer patients at those rates, the FDA would move a division of troops and tanks and choppers loaded with missiles into the area of the company selling the supplement. I think the story of the " deadly unapproved treatment " would make front-page headlines for a week or two, replete with the appropriate clucking and outrage from " responsible physicians and medical bureaucrats. " But Chiron can proudly tout Proleukin on its website. JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com CHIRON UNDER INVESTIGATION OCTOBER 12, 2004. The US Attorney's office in NY has launched an investigation of Chiron for failing to deliver flu vaccine to America. No, no, no. The investigation should center not only on the contaminated vaccine, but on all the other Chiron crimes I have been detailing for the past several days on this page. Associated Press Update 3: Chiron Investigated Over Flu Vaccine 10.12.2004, 03:32 PM A federal grand jury is investigating Chiron Corp.'s failure to supply the nation with half the needed flu vaccine this year, the company said Tuesday in a regulatory filing. The Emeryville-based company said it received a subpoena from the U.S. Attorney in New York, the same office that recently prosecuted Martha Stewart and former star investment banker Frank Quattrone in unrelated financial scandals. The subpoena demanded documents and other information related to British regulators prohibiting Chiron from shipping about 48 million Fluvirin vaccine shots from its Liverpool plant because of contamination concerns, the company said in a Securities and Exchange Commission filing. Officials with Chiron and the U.S. Attorney's office declined comment. In its filing, the company said it would cooperate with the investigation. Also Tuesday, Chiron said it was reducing its expected 2004 earnings from $1.50 to $1.60 a share to between 35 cents and 45 cents a share because of the flu fiasco. Analysts had expected the downward revision, estimating that the missed flu season would cost Chiron about $300 million in sales. Several investment firms had previously downgraded Chiron's stock and questions remain about whether the company will be able to fix its production problems and restore its credibility in time for next year's flu season. In afternoon trading Tuesday, Chiron's share price fell 31 cents to $33.84 on the Nasdaq Stock Market. Chiron's stock has plunged more than 25 percent since Oct. 5, when British regulators took their actions. Chiron chief executive Howard Pien and U.S. Food and Drug Administration officials have said the British regulators actions were unexpected, even though the Liverpool factory has had a history of production problems. In 2000, the company that owned the factory at the time, Powderject Pharmaceuticals PLC, recalled polio vaccines made there because of contamination issues. As recently as August, Chiron had announced four million Fluvirin shots had been found to be contaminated with bacteria - but had said the company would still ship most of its vaccine in time for the flu season. " Chiron did not at any time mislead public health stakeholders or the public, " Pien said in a written testimony submitted Friday to a congressional committee looking into the matter. " The results of Chiron's internal investigations confirmed our belief that our product was safe. " A congressional hearing on the vaccine shortage was held Friday. Chiron purchased the Liverpool vaccine factory when it acquired U.K.-based Powderject Pharmaceuticals for $878 million in May 2003, two months after Chiron appointed Pien chief executive. end of AP article JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com CHIRON AND THE VACCINE FOR MENINGITIS OCTOBER 12, 2004. Reporter Jon Eisen, at Scoop Media, runs down another Chiron tale. He has the audacity to actually read the Chiron package insert that goes along with the vaccine. Surely he is breaking some law. It's not fair to examine company literature too closely. I confess I visited the Chiron website. And I found this reassuring statement: " Every second, 25 people across more than 70 countries are immunized with a Chiron vaccine. " Also, beneath a very long list of Chiron vaccines, I encountered a remark that was puzzling. The FDA has not approved any of the vaccines. They are not sold in the US. Call me crazy, but I'd think Chiron would want to peddle these shots in the richest nation in the world. Here is an excerpt from the bracing Eisen piece: Maker Admits Meningococcal Vax May Be DangerousMonday, 23 August 2004, 9:26 amPress Release: Jon Eisen Vaccine Maker Admits NZ Meningococcal Vaccine May Not Work, and Could Be Dangerous The manufacturer of the new meningococcal vaccine currently being introduced into New Zealand has admitted that " complete protection against infection caused by the New Zealand strain (of the bacteria) cannot be guaranteed. " In the " package insert " designed to provide guidelines for doctors and nurses administering the vaccine, the CHIRON company also states that the vaccine has a high rate of possible side effects. Moreover, it says that much crucial data about the performance of the vaccine, as well as data on " contraindications " (where it should not be used) are incomplete. Specifically: * While the insert says that " the population at risk should be vaccinated with MeNZB [company name for the vaccine] to prevent serious systemic disease " it concedes that " data on concomitant use of other vaccines are not yet available. " This means that if a person gets one or more other vaccines at or around the same time as the MeNZB vaccine, there are no data on possible adverse outcomes. * The vaccine also " has not been evaluated in persons with thrombocytopenia (low blood platelet count) or bleeding disorders. " * " As with all injectable vaccines, appropriate medical treatment and supervision should always be readily available in the rare case of an anaphylactic event (life threatening allergic reaction) following administration of a vaccine. " The company neglects to provide any data on these kinds of events. * " MeNZB has not been specifically evaluated in the immunocompromised. Individuals with complement deficiencies and individuals with functional or anatomical asplenia (problems with or absence of a spleen) may mount an immune response to MeNZB; however, the degree of protection that would be afforded is unknown. " [understand that far more than a BILLION people in this world have compromised immune systems---JR] * " Any acute infection and febrile illness (an illness with an associated fever) is reason for delaying the use of MeNZB except when, in the opinion of the physician,withholding the vaccine entails a greater risk. " In other words, inasmuch as the manufacturer does not actually have any meaningful data on risks and benefits, it's up to the doctor's " educated guess " as to whether or not to vaccinate a sick child or infant. More: " A minor illness such a temperature of less than 38.5 detgrees such as a minor upper respiratory infection, is not usually reason to postpone immunisation. " However, in that such an infection may or may not be an indication of someone who is " immunocompromised " (a contraindication for the vaccine; remember that there is " no data " on this) the reader is left wondering about this apparent contradiction in the directions. * " There are no adequate data from the use of MeNZB in pregnant women. " * " Information on the safety of the vaccine during lactation is not available. " * " The degree and quality of the cellular immune response is not yet established. " * " Clinical efficacy (whether it works or not): No prospective efficacy trials have been performed with MeNZB. " In other words, the company has no idea as to whether or not the vaccine actually does what they say it should do. End of Scoop excerpt JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com CHIRON LIES ABOUT VACCINE SHIPPED TO US OCTOBER 12, 2004. Here is a brief excerpt from an October 5 story in the LA Times: Key source of flu vaccine shut down By Jesus Sanchez and Mary MacVean Los Angeles Times Staff Writers Posted October 5 2004, 3:06 PM EDT Chiron Corp., which produces half of the nation's supply of flu vaccine, today said it will not ship any vaccine during the upcoming flu season after health officials in Britain, where the vaccine is made, shut down production because of contamination problems... Emeryville, Calif.-based Chiron said none of the 48 million doses of its Fluvirin vaccine destined for U.S. outlets [from its British manufacturing facility in Liverpool] had been distributed, and that a recall would not be necessary. end of Times excerpt Hello? As you'll see from my post yesterday, this is a lie. Somewhere between 6 and 27 million flu shots WERE shipped from England to the US, and the CDC is currently trying to track down their whereabouts. SF Chronicle and Reuters have made all this clear. Isn't lying about shipping poison some sort of crime? Yes, but not among gentlemen. JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com CHIRON INVOLVED IN INHUMAN MEDICAL EXPERIMENTS OCTOBER 12, 2004. Below is a brief excerpt from an April 2004 Observer article written by the brilliant reporter, Liam Scheff. Scheff uncovered a horrible scandal at a NYC facility (torture chamber) where kids were forcibly being given very toxic AIDS drugs. Note the names of the drug companies involved in the " clinical trials " at this " treatment center. " 12.04.2004 12:53 MUST READ: The house that AIDS built By Liam Scheff In New York's Washington Heights is a 4-story brick building called Incarnation Children's Center (ICC). This former convent houses a revolving stable of children who've been removed from their own homes by the Agency for Child Services. These children are black, Hispanic and poor. Many of their mothers had a history of drug abuse and have died. Once taken into ICC, the children become subjects of drug trials sponsored by NIAID (National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Disease, a division of the NIH), NICHD (the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development) in conjunction with some of the world's largest pharmaceutical companies - GlaxoSmithKline, Pfizer, Genentech, Chiron/Biocine and others. The drugs being given to the children are toxic - they're known to cause genetic mutation, organ failure, bone marrow death, bodily deformations, brain damage and fatal skin disorders. If the children refuse the drugs, they're held down and have them force fed. If the children continue to resist, they're taken to Columbia Presbyterian hospital where a surgeon puts a plastic tube through their abdominal wall into their stomachs. From then on, the drugs are injected directly into their intestines. end of Scheff excerpt JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com CHIRON AND THE MMR VACCINE---OOPS OCTOBER 12, 2004. Here is a brief excerpt from a NY Times piece on Chiron and the MMR vaccine. More trouble, just before the current flu-vaccine disaster (and while Chiron was delaying release of the flu vaccine and mulling over problems): Company Is Investigating Possible Vaccine Problems in Brazil By LAWRENCE K. ALTMAN Published: August 28, 2004 A day after the Chiron Corporation said it was delaying release of its influenza vaccine in this country because some lots were contaminated, the company confirmed that it was investigating possible problems with use of a different vaccine in Brazil. Brazilian health officials stopped the use of Chiron's triple vaccine against measles, mumps and rubella, often referred to as MMR, after an unexpectedly high number of children who received it experienced serious allergic reactions in an immunization program last week. The reactions included rashes and anaphylactic shock, a potentially fatal allergic condition. There were no deaths reportedŠ End of Times excerpt JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com CHIRON AND THE RABIES VACCINE---OOPS OCTOBER 12, 2004. The current flu-vaccine disaster is not the first time Chiron has had problems with vaccines. Here is a 2001 alert from the FDA website. It involves cracked and leaking vials: Voluntary Recall of Rabies Vaccine, (RabAvert) DATE RECALL INITIATED: March 16, 2001 LOT NUMBERS / EXPIRATION DATES: 261011 09/2001 or 9/2003 273011 1/2004 RECALLING FIRM (Distributor): Chiron Corporation 4560 Horton St., Emeryville, CA 94608 MANUFACTURER: Chiron Behring GmbH & Co Emil-Von-Behring Strasse P. O. Box 1630 Marburg D-35006 Germany REASON: Chiron Corporation received seven customer complaints of broken and/or cracked vials following shipment of these RabAvert lots. An internal inspection of remaining inventory revealed that the bottom of the vial of diluent (sterile water for injection) was placed in line with the bottom of the product vial (lyophilized rabies vaccine). For those lots noted above, the investigation confirmed that bottom-to-bottom positioning of the two vials may have caused the breakage and/or cracking of the vials. The recall was initiated because the firm can not assure that the products are sterile. Customers were asked to discontinue use of the product and return all stock. end of FDA report JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com FLU VACCINE SCANDAL AND FLU SCANDAL EXPLODING MONDAY, OCTOBER 11, 2004. BANNED CONTAMINATED CHIRON FLU VACCINE IS LOOSE IN THE US. THE CDC MUST ANSWER QUESTIONS NOW. FOR EXAMPLE, DON'T ITS OWN BOTTOM-LINE STATISTICS PROVE THAT THE FLU IS KILLING VERY, VERY FEW PEOPLE??? MY ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS YES. THE CDC IS IS FLOATING FALSE PROPAGANDA ABOUT FLU DEATHS, IS CONCEALING THE TRUTH. WE ARE LIVING IN THE MIDDLE OF A LIE. THE CDC IS FABRICATING AND SPINNING ITS OWN DATA TO CONVINCE US THAT THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE (ABOUT 36,000) ARE DYING FROM THE FLU EVERY YEAR IN THE US. WHEN ITS OWN POSTED DATA (UNDER ALL THE LIES) SHOWS THAT FLU IS ABOUT AS DEADLY AS ACCIDENTS INVOLVING TOASTERS FALLING ON PEOPLE FROM APARTMENT WINDOWS. NOTE: ALL DAY TODAY, BEFORE MY APPEARANCE TONIGHT ON COAST TO AM with George Noory, I'll be adding to the end of this article, giving you up-to-the-minute news on the breaking madness re FLU and FLU VACCINE...keep checking back for updates.... This isn't big, it's huge. (NOTE: I WILL BE ON COAST TO COAST AM WITH GEORGE NOORY TONIGHT FOR A FEW MINUTES IN THE FIRST HOUR....TALKING ABOUT CHIRON BANNED FLU VACCINE loose in the US...and CDC lies. John Keller may have just solved several big mysteries vis-à-vis flu stats. WHY DOES THE CDC SAY, OVER AND OVER, THAT 36,000 PEOPLE IN THE US DIE EVERY YEAR FROM THE FLU? WHY DOES THE CDC LUMP TOGETHER FLU AND PNEUMONIA WHEN ISSUING DEATH REPORTS? WHY DO LOTS OF PEOPLE SAY THEY KNOW OF NO ONE WHO HAS DIED OF THE FLU? Does the CDC admit, on its own site, that the REAL numbers of flu deaths, in recent years, are UNDER 800 PER YEAR? UNDER 1000 (TOTAL) FOR TWO YEARS? Mr. Keller, an independent researcher, has issued a reportŠI have excerpted a key paragraph below, which gives directions on finding the truth at the bottom of the CDC well. I have been trying to follow those directionsŠso far I'm lost in spaceŠI need help from readers. Please try it yourself and report back to me. I have already emailed Mr. Keller and another friend for assistance. So far, my impression is, it's me. I'm just not finding what is there. I don't know. But I'm LOOKING, LOOKING, LOOKING. HelpŠ [update: I've gotten help from three independent sources.] Again, this could be bigger than big. Here is Keller's excerpt: Now, let's dig into the more detailed reports. The " Deaths: Final Data for 2001 " (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr52/nvsr52_03.pdf ) report is an 8MB PDF. Skip it unless you want all the charts detailing deaths by race, age, and ethnicity. The 2002 preliminary report contains the interesting parts of the 2001 final report, as well as data from 2002. The second search result for J10 (the mortality code for flu) brings us to page 16 of 48, which contains the breakout of flu and pneumonia. Total flu deaths for 2002: 753. Pneumonia accounted for the other 65,231 deaths. Scrolling to the right are the numbers for 2001. Again, total flu deaths were under one thousand, coming in at 257. That's right, less than a thousand people died of the flu in 2001 and 2002, according to the CDC's own numbers. End of excerpt. THIS MAY BE THE BIGGEST MEDICAL STORY TO COME DOWN THE PIPELINE IN YEARS. UPDATE: I'm getting confirmations on Mr. Keller's discovery. I will be adding to this article through the day, prior to my brief appearance on Coast to Coast AM tonight....and I'll be weaving in other material on the flu scam. Keep checking back. For example: OCTOBER 11, 2004. Researcher Patricia Doyle has uncovered a very disturbing paragraph at the end of a Reuters article dated October 6: " The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [CDC] was working to find out where vaccines had already been shipped to providers such as clinics, drug stores and employers. " The paragraph is, of course, about the explosively widening Chiron flu vaccine scandal. In previous stories, I've discussed the fact that this vaccine, just banned as UNSAFE and CONTAMINATED, was already shipped, in huge quantities, from England to the US, where it has been sitting in distributors' warehouses. I warned that there was a very good chance vaccine had already been shipped out the doors. The CDC KNOWS THIS IS TRUE. Because the hunt is on. Clinics, drug stores, employers. The vials of vaccine have escaped quarantine. US health authorities are downplaying the situation. They claim, without a flutter of an eyelid, that it is standard practice for vaccine makers to ship doses for sale and distribution BEFORE THESE MANUFACTURERS DO THEIR FINAL SAFETY TESTS. As of this morning, Oct. 11, no major media outlet I can find has sounded an alarm. Why not? I'll tell you. Because the CDC has not told them to. It is the CDC that is holding back. You know: " We must avoid panic. " You can be SURE that, if the CDC and its parent, the US Dept. of Health and Human Services, an agency of the executive branch of the US federal government, had issued press releases, the major media would be all over this. So it is those agencies of the government that are CULPABLE. How many people in the US have already received contaminated flu shots manufactured by Chiron? JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com Now start putting all this together. If the CDC has been lying for years about the real numbers of deaths from the flu in the US---if the true numbers are much, much lower than advertised broadly, then why all the fear-mongering about the dangers of the flu? They want to sell vaccine. They want to sell vaccine. So what does it appear they have ended up with? Very few actual deaths from the flu. And a contaminated and very dangerous vaccine which is being sold out the doors in the US...a wildcat vaccine...and no accountability. Add to this the hysterical propaganda about the possible arrival of The Big One, a global flu pandemic, based on no evidence at all, and you have a monumental crime in progress, right before your eyes. Yesterday, on C-SPAN, I watched a few minutes of a brief Congressional hearing on the " flu-vaccine shortage " in the US. The drug-company reps basically said that the only way to guarantee the vaccine makers a good season every season for selling flu vaccine is to UP THE DEMAND. And that means young children, who are still " not getting the shots in great enough numbers. " It's nothing less than a RICO crime. Keep checking back today... JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com UPDATE: October 11, 2004, 12:10PM, Pacific Time. The first confirmation on the Keller report has come in, from John Cullison. He has checked part of Keller's work and finds identical low, low numbers on actual flu deaths. He offers the following path to take, using the CDC link Keller offered (above). As I suspected---since I am basically a writer with a typewriter who woke up one day with a computer---the technical details of the search are way over my head: Hi, You need to download the PDF (create a link to it on a page, and then right click the link; then select Save Target As..., assuming you're using Internet Explorer), and then open it in Adobe Acrobat Reader (rather than reading it via Internet Explorer's Acrobat plug-in), and then you'll be able to search the document for " J10 " . (In Acrobat Reader, use the Edit->Find command, and once you've found " J10 " the first, time, use F3 to find subsequent " J10 " 's.) I've already done the work, however, so here's what you need to do. Go to page 31. That page is printed in landscape mode, so that the table can fit the page. There, sixth line from the bottom, is the " Influenza and pneumonia (J10-J18) " listing, and below that are sub-listings for " Influenza (J10-J11) " and " Pneumonia (J12-J18) " . Sure enough, under the first column of data, " All Ages " , the influenza line shows a whopping 257, while the pneumonia line shows 61,777, for a total of 62,034. Almost 2/3 of the influenza deaths were of people over 74 years old. Go to page 35. The table layout is either identical or very similar, but it lists death rates per 100,000. As you can infer from the fifth line from the bottom of the table, death from influenza is a one-in-a-million event. Following those pages are breakouts for various races, various age groups (i.e. infant-related), etc. On page 104, you can find the following data: " The large decrease in Influenza (ICD-10 codes J10-J11) deaths from 2000 to 2001 is largely due to a change in the coding rules, which resulted in deaths that would have previously been assigned to Influenza, instead were assigned to Pneumonia in 2001. " Of course, what exactly this means is not stated. Was the CDC misreporting pneumonia deaths as flu deaths previously, thereby generating excess alarm about the relative danger of influenza? =-John-= JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com UPDATE Oct.11, 2004, 12:25PM, Pacific Time: More from John Cullison that confirms the Keller report on ACTUAL very low CDC stats for flu deaths in the US: I've found the preliminary data for 2002. It's at http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr52/nvsr52_13.pdf. It's in THIS document that Keller's instructions make sense. Sure enough, on page 16, Influenza (J10-J11) is listed as 753, and Pneumonia (J12-J18) accounts for the other 65,231 cases. =-John-= JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com UPDATE: October 11, 2004, 12:30PM, Pacific Time: Here is another source, Martin Maloney, who has tracked the CDC page address cited by Keller. He offers his succinct confirmatory finding: Perhaps this is what you are looking for. Near the bottom of page 31 of that PDF document, you will find, under the heading: Table 10. Number of deaths from 113 selected causes by age: United States, 2001 - Con. //snip// Influenza and pneumonia (J10-J18) ................................. 62,034 Influenza (J10-J11) .......................................................... 257 Pneumonia (J12-J18) ...................................................... 61,777 Martin A question is raised here. If table 10 is assembled BY AGE, are the figures cited here for all ages, or only for a restricted range of ages? Hopefully, more later on this. JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com UPDATE: OCTOBER 11, 2004, 1:30pm, Pacific Time. Martin Maloney replies to my question about whether the stats he just cited on flu deaths were for all ages or a restricted age group: " Go to the top of the table, and you will see that age ranges are listed by column. The first column is " All ages " -- that is the column in which the cited figures appear. " JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com UPDATE: OCT. 11, 1:55PM. In John Keller's original report, which I excerpted above this morning, he gives a web page where the CDC discusses various types of pneumonia. www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/submenus/sub_pneumonia.htm Keller points out that, on this page, there is no discussion of the FLU as a precursor to pneumonia. I have checked this page, and Keller is right. This is important, because the CDC could try to defend itself for lumping together pneumonia and flu in death stats by saying, " Well, as we all know, the flu brings on pneumonia, and whether a person dies from flu or flu/pneumonia, the basic cause (flu) could be the same in many, many cases. " There is no conventional basis for this assumption, and therefore the CDC has no leg to stand on for this deceptive lumping of death stats under the category " flu/pneumonia. " As you can see from reading this far in today's post, it is exactly that lumping together that makes the flu seem rather dangerous. JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com UPDATE, OCTOBER 11, 2:10PM, Pacific Time. John Cullison has now posted a very important article on flu deaths stats. It attempts to make your search easier. www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=74 & i=576 JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com UPDATE---BACKGROUNDER---OCTOBER 11, 2004, 2:40PM, Pacific Time. BOSTON (CBS.MW) -- British regulators' sudden move to shut down Chiron's flu shot manufacturing operations sent the company's shares tumbling, while fanning fears the United States could be vulnerable to an influenza epidemic. Chiron (CHIR: news, chart, profile) rocked investors Tuesday when the company said it will not be able to release any of its Fluvirin vaccine because the British government has suspended the manufacturing license at its Liverpool plant for at least three months. The plant is Chiron's only flu-shot manufacturing facility. The suspension only prohibits Chiron from making Fluvirin at Liverpool, and does not affect the production of other products there, the company said. In addition, the British government also is preventing manufactured doses of the vaccine to be shipped to the United States. Shares of the vaccine developer closed down 16.38 percent to $37.98 Tuesday. Chiron had halted trading of its shares until about 12.15 p.m. Eastern and was down by more than a third at one point after trading resumed. Chiron is one of only two major suppliers of seasonal flu vaccine to the U.S. market. The Emeryville, Calif.-based biotechnology firm planned to supply 46 million to 48 million doses of the vaccine for the 2004-05 flu season, which begins in October. The other major supplier, Sanofi-Aventis (SNY: news, chart, profile), is reportedly on track to supply 50 million doses. Chiron's flu vaccine is only approved for use in adults. Pediatric flu shots are supplied by Aventis, according to the U.S. Health and Human Services Department. " We profoundly regret we will be unable to meet public health needs, " said Chiron Chief Executive Howard Pien in a conference call with investors midday Tuesday. " The suspension ... has the practical effect of wiping out our ability to supply, " he added. According to Chiron management, the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency, or MHRA, Britain's equivalent to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, yanked the company's license to manufacture the vaccine at its Liverpool plant at midnight Eastern time Tuesday, citing concerns about the process. Chiron already had announced it was delaying shipments of the vaccine after discovering some batches of the vaccine made at the plant had been contaminated. The company is also a major supplier of the flu vaccine to the British government. The MHRA's move came just as Chiron was doing final testing on this season's supply. According to Chiron, practically all of the 48 million doses slated for the United States had already been manufactured when the MHRA pulled the plug. Pien said that the move was " unexpected, " maintaining that the flu shots had passed internal corporate inspection without a problem last week, an inspection process that the FDA appeared to be " fairly comfortable with. " " As of last week, we expected to be on track to have delivery of Fluvirin by early October, " Pien elaborated on the U.S. shipments. " You should now assume that the entirety of the 2004-05 flu season is gone. " The executive said that the existing supply of flu shots at the Liverpool plant will be destroyed unless MHRA changes its decision in the next few days. He added that Chiron will begin discussions with that agency Wednesday. Because it takes more than five months to manufacture the vaccine, Pien indicated that there is no way the company can manufacture more of the shots to meet its U.S. obligations. Chiron also issued new 2004 financial estimates. The company said that due to the loss of its primary product for the year, Chiron now expects to post net earnings of between 35 cents and 45 cents per share for 2004. The company previously forecast earnings of $1.50 to $1.60 a share for the year. Chiron is one of the world's leading manufacturers of flu vaccines. The company is a major supplier of flu shots to the United States, as well as Germany, Ireland, Italy and the United Kingdom. It said in August it was delaying U.S. shipments for several weeks after it was discovered that a small number of batches made at its Liverpool plant had been contaminated due to human error. Chiron executives testified before Congress last week that they anticipated no further delays in the shipments. Sanofi-Aventis is the other major flu vaccine supplier to the United States. The company said Monday that it had already shipped 30 million doses ahead of schedule to U.S. distributors. See related story. Niche biotechnology concern MedImmune (MEDI: news, chart, profile) also makes a spray-mist version of the vaccine, called FluMist. But that product has not been approved for use in children under age 5 and adults over 50, who combined make up the vast bulk of flu shot recipients. MedImmune's chief executive told CBS MarketWatch in early September that his company had no plans to ramp up additional production of FluMist to fill any market void created by Chiron's delays. MedImmune had planned to only make about 2 million doses of FluMist for the 2004-05 flu season. U.S.-traded shares of Sanofi-Aventis rose 0.98 percent to $37.14. Its Aventis (AVE: news, chart, profile) subsidiary, of which 5 percent of its shares are publicly traded, was up 1.39 percent to $86. MedImmune jumped 5.79 percent to $25.78. During a second press conference Tuesday, Chiron executives also emphasized that the company is still seeking to be a major vaccine supplier for the 2005-06 season. The company said that it is working diligently with U.S. and foreign regulators to help work out any outstanding issues to be able to begin the lengthy manufacturing process next spring. " What we're worried about is our ability to live up to the public trust... as a reliable supplier of the vaccine, " lamented Pien. He added that the company is also on track with a previously planned $100 million capital investment in its vaccine-making operations, which include construction and upgrades. End of CBS piece. Since that piece appeared, the CDC has admitted (though the admission has not received wide press attention) that perhaps 6 million doses of the vaccine had already been shipped into the US, before the ban was laid on. Perhaps more. Chiron's flu vaccine is contaminated with the serratia bacteria. The doses already in the US are outside the regulatory arm of the FDA and outside the control of Chiron. Therefore, as demand increases for the vaccine and the public becomes predictably hysterical (announce a shortage, make people drool for your product), these stocks of vaccine, sitting in US distributors' warehouses, are almost certainly going out the door into the black market. Who knows how much is being sold in the US and other countries. To make things worse, about a million doses were shipped from Chiron in England this past July. People may have already been shot up with them... JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com UPDATE, OCTOBER 11, 2004, 3:15PM, Pacific Time. Yet another reader has made the trek to the CDC site pages and has found a 2003 report about flu for the year 2001: nvsr52 03.pdf (7.4 MB) pg 44 influenza and pneumonia deaths (j10-j18) 62,034 influenza (j10-11) 257 pneumonia (J12-18) 61,777 JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com UPDATE, OCTOBER 11, 4:50pm, PACIFIC TIME. Another backgrounder on flu vaccine. Boom. It turns out that a great deal of the flu vaccine made by Chiron in England---the vaccine just declared contaminated and unfit for use and dangerous---IS ALREADY IN THE US. It was shipped here prior to the ban. It's sitting in US distributor warehouses, " outside the direct control of the company or US [FDA] regulators, " according to SFGate.com, the San Francisco Chronicle's online outlet. So which flu vaccine are people in the US going to be getting this fall and winter?? The vials of Chiron vaccine in the US are under the quarantine imposed by the company after it learned that all 48 million of its 2004 flu-vaccine doses were banned by British regulatorsŠbut that quarantine does not mean the vials will just sit there in US warehouses. Oh no. It means that eager greedheads can start putting it on the market. Because the selling price will skyrocket in a very heavy demand situation. Chiron vaccine could be going out the door as we speak. It's open season on people who want flu vaccine. And as you'll see in the SFGate article excerpted below, there is a curious word being used to describe FDA action on these US-warehoused flu vaccine doses: the word is RELEASED. Huh? RELEASED? No explanation is spelled out. Here 's the excerpt: The Chronicle has learned that vaccine shipped across the Atlantic has been sitting since August in the warehouses of American drug distributors, under a Chiron-imposed " quarantine,'' but outside the direct control of the company or U.S. regulators. Now, Chiron's entire production of at least 48 million doses of flu vaccine has been rendered useless after British regulators abruptly suspended the license of the Emeryville-based company's Liverpool factory Tuesday, cutting the U.S. supply of flu shots in half. In this case, Chiron employed the little-known quarantine process under which drugmakers can ship products to distributors before final safety tests are completed. Norman Baylor, deputy director for the FDA's vaccine unit, said it was not unusual for manufacturers to ship vaccine under quarantine. The quarantine is lifted by the manufacturer when the company's final tests confirm that the product is safe and the distributor is free to sell it. " I think the system works,'' Baylor said in an interview in September shortly after Chiron's contamination problem first surfaced. " The system did what it was supposed to do.'' Baylor also confirmed that 27 bulk lots -- nearly half of the 60 produced by the Chiron plant -- had been " released " by the FDA prior to the company's discovery that some finished product was contaminated. The actual number of doses that can be produced from each lot varies. Although the federal agency does not conduct tests on the final product, companies are liable for the safety of their medicines and have powerful incentive to test them thoroughly before releasing them from quarantine, Baylor explained. Chiron shipped its first million doses of vaccine to distributors in late July, trumpeting its first-to-market achievement in a July 23 press release. At that time, the company explained that " in the coming days, " it would " complete its internal release procedures, allowing distributors to begin shipping vaccines to customers.'' Any optimism at Chiron evaporated with Tuesday's ruling. " We consider the Fluvirin season to be over, for all intents and purposes,'' Chiron spokesman John Gallagher said Wednesday. He also confirmed that the initial crisis had been triggered when tests detected serratia bacteria in a small number of lots. Serratia bacteria are often implicated in episodes of hospital-acquired infection and can be deadly in the bloodstream. The company has yet to reveal when it discovered the contaminated lots, but having found a problem, Chiron never lifted its quarantine. Although no Chiron vaccine was shipped to clinics, some drug industry experts acknowledge that its presence at multiple U.S. distributor warehouses poses a potential security problem. " Because of the shortage, the spot market for flu vaccines is going to go through the roof,'' said David Webster, a health care consultant in Lehigh Valley, Penn. " Any time there is an extremely valuable commodity, the potential exists that it will work its way on to the black market. It is a legitimate cause for concern.'' End of SF Gate article JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com UPDATE: OCTOBER 11, 2004, 9:20PM. PACIFIC TIME. I have had several people contact me who are trying to justify the CDC reporting system on flu and pneumonia. They basically claim that, since the flu " so often leads to pneumonia, " especially the oh so deadly viral type of pneumonia (they stress this), it makes sense for the CDC to lump flu and pneumonia deaths together. I offer this tidbit from WebMD about viral penumonia: " Viral pneumonia is pneumonia caused by a virus. About half of all people with pneumonia have viral pneumonia. Viral pneumonia is usually less serious than bacterial pneumonia and can take from 2 to 4 weeks to recover " Viral pneumonia is usually less serious [than bacterial pneumonia].. A stay in the hospital is rarely needed. " Yes, I realize that the elderly, already drugged to the eyeballs, and suffering from multiple problems, can die of almost anything added to their already heavy burden, but this does NOT justify concluding that they are dying from the flu progressing into viral pneumonia on some seamless course in a vacuum. So far I have found no authoritative death stats in the US from viral pneumonia, where the virus has definitely been IDed (NOT eyeballed)and where the titer of that virus has been determined to be high. I'm sticking to my story. The CDC is fronting for a lie. JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com NOORY SHOW: AFTERMATH OCTOBER 12, 2004. Lots of emails. Mentioned: the Chiron flu vaccine still contains mercury. Hello? US health authorities have been " insisting " that it's time to eliminate the neurotoxin mercury from vaccines, but apparently this is taking a lot longer than imagined. I can't get too upset that a lot of people won't be getting their yearly dose of injected mercury. If you have spare time, try to find a study published in a respected medical journal that adds up all the mercury that people, including babies, will get from their vaccinations, over a five or six year period---a study that then goes on to assess the effect of that total toxic load. A study that doesn't hedge or lie. Good luck. It's obvious from some emails that there are people out there who still don't understand the difference between burying key data way down inside long and tedious reports and trumpeting that data as front-page news. Out front, the CDC comes on like Halloween goblins re the terrible dangers of the dreaded flu ( " get your vaccine! get your vaccine! " ); but way, way, way down in the small print, they admit the death rate from flu ranks on the same level as cars with wings killing their passengers by levitating off suspension bridges and floating down into fast-moving rivers. Some listeners to last night's show didn't digest what I said about the true CDC stats on deaths from flu. I suggest those people read my long post from yesterday. In a sane world, this horrible scam to sell vaccine and keep people in fear would be exposed in the major media in a second. JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com -- The individual is supreme and finds its way through intuition. 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