Col Grand-Pre We Shot Down Flight 93

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Alex Jones Interviews Col. Donn de Grand-Pre, U.S.

Army (ret.): Explosive New 9/11 Revelations and

Explanations

 

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Complete Transcript of Interview:

DGP: Well, this is correct, but you see the Adj.

General of the State of North Dakota gave the command

to take it out. And, by God, they took it out. And

I've got the full story in the book.

 

AJ: That's a good thing they did that. You said you

talked to the pilot. Think about this folks. Imagine

what Bush would have gotten if he would have had that

plane fly into the Capitol? Imagine the police state

we would be in right now.

 

John: Was there any refueling tankers used by the

North Dakota Air Guard and what tanker wing was used?

 

DGP: I don't know about the aircraft itself. I don't

know about refueling. They came off base in Langley

and it was just a few minutes out from Langley to the

intercept over Pennsylvania. It was just a matter of

minutes.

 

AJ: Colonel, how did you get in touch with the pilot

who shot the plane down?

 

DGP: It turned out to be an old friend of mine from

the Air National Guard and this is my home state of

North Dakota. And I attended the ceremony in North

Dakota and watched the Adj. General [garbled] the

pilot being decorated a year later for this activity

that happened on 911 with Flight 93.

 

Full Transcript: Alex Jones Interviews Col. Donn de

Grand-Pre, U.S. Army (ret.): Explosive New 9/11

Revelations and Explanations

 

The Alex Jones Show

 

AJ: He put on a symposium a few years ago that made

headlines in major newspapers, in Portugal. We had one

of those articles posted. And it says,

 

" Portugal-based investigative journalist has presented

The News, with the version of the September 11th

attacks that has to-date failed to attract the

attention of the international press. The report,

compiled by the independent inquiry into the September

11th World Trade Center attack, warns the American

public that the government's official version of the

events does not stand up to scrutiny. "

 

And the man who put this on was Col. Donn de Grand ,

who's an American in a 72-hour non-stop symposium,

deliberation by a group of military and civilian

pilots under the chairmanship of Col. Donn de Grand.

After deliberating non-stop for 72-hours, has

concluded the flight crews of the four passenger

airliners involved in the September 11th tragedy had

no control over their aircraft.

 

They get into how the globalists clearly carried it

out. Now, this was two years ago, folks. A very

cutting edge... Now the mainstream foreign press has

addressed it. And most Europeans believe the U.S.

government carried it out. A lot of Americans are now

waking up. And talking to this trailblazer,

cutting-edge pioneer, Col. Donn de Grand. It's an

honor, sir, to have you on the show.

 

DGP: Hey, Alex, it's good to be aboard.

 

AJ: We are going to break here in about a minute and

a-half. Give folks your bio. Tell us about Col. Donn

de Grand.

 

DGP: Well, you've got part of the name correct. It's a

hyphened word, the last name is Grand-Pre.

 

AJ: Yes, it's Col. Donn de Grand-Pre. That's how I

addressed you this morning on the website.

 

DGP: That's alright.

 

AJ: The Portugal newspaper just says Col. Don de

Grand, so....

 

DGP: That's okay. I've talked to these guys and

they're good and they almost got it correct. I'll give

you a quick bio. I entered the military in 1944 as an

18-year-old radio operator, morse code. And I was sent

to Burma and China. I was attached to the detachment

101 which was OSS and I operated out of Burma. Then

later on in Kunming, China, along with such notable

people as a tall, skinny gal by the name of Julia

Child. She has since put on a little weight and now

she's doing television commercials, I guess. But I

came back on active duty in 1950 as a commissioned

officer, infantry airborne. And I got involved in the

Korean fracas for a year-and-a-half until I was

wounded. Then I was shipped home for two-years while I

recuperated. And then I came back in.....

 

AJ: I'll tell you what, Col. Donn de Grand-Pre, let's

stay right there. Let's recap when we get back and go

through the rest of your bio. And then launch into

this amazing symposium that you put on two-years ago

and why you did it in Portugal. So stay with us. His

first interview in over a year and we are honored to

have Col. Donn de Grand-Pre.

 

BREAK

 

AJ: We are talking to Col. Donn de Grand-Pre and we

have a news article about an incredible symposium he

put on two years ago in Portugal, covered by a

front-page newspaper and magazine ' Portugal's other

major papers. And a lot of key info came out ' very

cutting edge. And this is his first interview since he

had a stroke a little over a year ago. It's great to

have the Colonel on the show. So, he got into OSS

right at the end of World War II, then went into Korea

for a year and a half, was wounded, with the airborne.

And that's where we left off, Colonel. Please continue

with your bio.

 

DGP: Okay, Alex. Actually I went to work then for Sec.

Def. Bob McNamara. He hired me as the chief arms

negotiator for the Middle East. And we conducted our

business there. We were known as the super salesmen in

ISA, International Security Affairs. And over a

ten-year period, we sold over a hundred billion

dollars worth of military equipment to all comers. And

then, you mentioned the interview in Portugal. I

didn't actually go to Portugal but on 11 September,

actually it was 12 September, I wrote to my friend

Gen. Hugh Shelton, who was Chairman of the Joint

Chiefs at that time. He was transited out. And he was

replaced by Gen. Richard, what the heck was the

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs' The name escapes me. He

was a four-star Air Force General. And, Myers, I

guess, was the name. At any rate, I called together

from 16 to 19 September, in the Pentagon area, not in

the Pentagon, a group of military, civilian and

general aviation pilots. And for three days, we kicked

around what actually happened on 11 September. And

then the investigator journalists covered that and it

was reported in the Portugal news and very accurate. I

have the report in front of me and it is quite

involved but if you have some questions, fire away,

Alex.

 

AJ: Well, now you got these military officers together

and that's the only place I ever saw it get reported

on, was on here in Portugal ' it talked about the

symposium. Of course, I read one of your fine books

and we'll talk about that as well a little bit later

on in the show and take some calls. But, what was laid

out, what I saw in the four-page article, two years

ago, has turned out to be very accurate. Tell us about

the military officers, the pilots, the civilian pilots

that were there and the conclusions that you came to

in the 72-hour non-stop meeting. Please go over that

for us.

 

DGP: Okay, Alex, the group of pilots and they will

remain anonymous were a wonderful mix of commercial,

military and civilian pilots. At any rate, after three

days, the decisions were unanimous. And I wrote my

24-page report up and submitted it to the Chairman of

the Joint Chiefs. And that report ultimately got into

the hands of the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs on

23 January, 2002. The General was U.S. Marine Corp

General by the name Peter Pace. And I got a telephone

call, 5 March, from one of his horse holders, who is a

Colonel Air Force type. He informed me that Gen. Peter

Pace had gotten the twenty-four pages and that he and

his Sec. had no comment at this time but he used the

old Marine Corp lingo, " Semper Fi " or Always Faithful,

and we let it go at that. Later on I continued my

correspondence with the Vice Chairman and most

recently, I got a letter 8 November, 2003 from Peter

Pace, to me, carrying on not only about the

investigation but about the three books that I have

written since that time.

 

AJ: Now, Colonel, going over your report and the, I

guess the committee meeting that you guys had to play

out what you believe really happened. Now as more

evidence has come out, it shows that that's clearly

exactly what happened. Now, they are using 911 to turn

this country into a total police state. I mean how do

you see us turning this around?

 

DGP: The turning around is not going to be that easy.

I look at the final paragraph of this report. And here

is what the final paragraph said. " So far the

mainstream American news media has failed to publish

or broadcast any details regarding the independent

inquiry. Similarly, the White House whilst having

received a copy of the report has remained silent on

its findings. " While we know that a copy, first of all

I have to back up a little. The Chairman of the Joint

Chiefs had 500 copies of this 24-page report made and

sent out, including, to the White House. And I have to

say it was including Pres. Bush. So they got a copy of

the report.

 

AJ: That was Myers at the time.

 

DGP: That is correct.

 

AJ: And so, he sent out 500 copies, that would mean

that he believed it.

 

DGP: I'm quite sure that he believed in it. I think

that he still believes in it. You can understand the

difficulties. The civilian administration, of course,

won't recognize it as such.

 

AJ: How did you find out that the Chairman of the

Joint Chiefs sent this out?

 

DGP: I got a telephone call and I think the date was 5

March 2002, stating that at the time, the Chairman of

the Joint Chiefs had no comment but he used the Marine

Corp lingo 'Semper Fi', Semper Fidelity 'always

faithful'. And that triggered in me further memos and

I traded memos with Gen. Peter Pace and Dick Myers and

they continued on until November of last year.

 

AJ: Well that had to be upsetting to Mr. Rumsfeld to

have all these, hundreds of your reports flying around

the Pentagon.

 

DGP: (laughs) Yeah, you see there's a definite

cleavage between the military of the Pentagon and the

civilian hierarchy - and never the twain shall meet.

 

AJ: Well, there was an article right after 'that you

talk about' in mid-2002 in the Washington Times saying

the morale in the Pentagon had never been lower. And

you would think it would be high right after 911 and

getting together to fight the enemy. But it said that

the officers didn't believe in the " mission " or in the

intelligence.

 

DGP: That is correct. That came out of the Washington

Times and I can verify that from Col. Dick Schultz,

who is a friend of mine in the Joint Chiefs. Morale

was not only low but he said some of the troops are

ready to mutiny. If it wasn't for the fact that the

government, the civilian hierarchy, has control over

retirements, they would probably be blood in the

streets by now.

 

AJ: There was also an article where they panicked in

the Washington Times, it was also in the Washington

Post, they panicked and flew the officers on jets to

luxury vacations and had these focus groups. It even

talked about a possible mutiny. People were just

totally distraught. What would make them become

distraught overnight in the Pentagon?

 

DGP: It wasn't an overnight thing. You see, as I

outline in book 1, and I carry that on in book 2, as

well as book 3, we were on the verge of a military

coup d'etat. And this was long in the planning and

even after the 78 days of bombing Kosovo, it became

critical. And we were close to a coup d'etat at that

time. In my survey of the reports and the pilots who

worked with that, a coup was a possibility. In fact, a

coup d'etat was pulled on the morning of September

11th. Only it was an administrative or what we call a

cold coup d'etat.

 

AJ: Or reverse coup d'etat.

 

DGP: Yes, in fact....

 

AJ: A counter revolutionary junta.

 

DGP: Well that is correct. And as we delved into that,

we found that the culprits, including Rumsfeld, were

part of a neocon group that had been planning this

thing for literally years prior to September 11th.

 

AJ: Absolutely, Colonel, it's just amazing picking

your brain. We are going to break here. In talking to

your this morning, I was proud to know that you've

been a listener to this show for a while.

 

DGP: Well, I've had a single side band short wave set

for about 4 years and I listened variously to Alex

Jones, particularly up until about 2-years ago, and as

a result of the events of September 11th, I did have a

stoke. I'm fully recovered. As I told Alex, I went

riding my favorite quarter horse this morning. So I'm

back and ready for anything.

 

AJ: Well that's wonderful Colonel. Okay, we'll break

and come back with the Colonel and get into all of

this ' and later get to your calls, too. So please,

stay with us.

 

BREAK

 

AJ: We'll take some of your calls for Col. Donn de

Grand-Pre coming up in the next segment. He's done a

lot of great work. I've only read one of his books.

Donn, tell us about some of your books, what they

cover and how folks can get a copy.

 

DGP: Okay, I've got three books out, Alex, under the

title, " Barbarians Inside the Gates. " Book 1 was " The

Serpent's Sting, " Book 2 is " The Viper's Venom, " Book

3 which just came out is " The Rattler's Revenge. " And

I'd like to quote from Book 2, which came out October

of 2002. There is a very important paragraph there. It

says, " The trigger for the 911 activity was the

imminent and unstoppable world-wide financial collapse

which can only be prevented temporarily by a major

war, perhaps to become known as World War III. To

bring it off one more time, martial law will probably

be imposed in the United States. "

 

AJ: And now we've seen Gen. Eberhart say that that's

the next step. Tommy Franks said that's the next step.

Are those now chilling statements?

 

DGP: Yes, they are. This next step will be preceded by

what I write up in book 1 ' " The Serpent's Sting. " I

wrote of a coming coup d'etat. And this was written in

the year 2000. And sure as blazes, it's coming. And it

will be preceded by these kinds of things as

enunciated by Tommy Franks, among others. So we are in

a world of hurt, Alex.

 

AJ: Now, by a coup d'etat, you mean another

intensification of a reverse coup d'etat to keep the

people from fighting against the New World Order or do

you mean the type that Bill Clinton successfully

stopped in his administration?

 

DGP: Well, I'm talking about the administrative coup

d'etat that came off September 11th.

 

AJ: You're talking about an intensification of the

elite in a coup d'etat against America.

 

DGP: That is correct.

 

AJ: Well, I mean, it's ongoing. They are federalizing

everything, they are militarizing everything, they're

engaging in the classic takeover, are they not?

 

DGP: Yes, there are. And from this, Alex, and I bring

this out very clearly in book 3, the only way we can

stop it is with the classic counter-coup d'etat where

the military steps in. And under the aegis of the

military itself, disengaging or disemboweling the

civilian hierarchy and taking over and re-running or

re-organizing the federal government.

 

AJ: Now the problem is they've got so many CFR minions

in the Pentagon. We know that Clinton had some

officers terminated and, in their office, shot

multiple times and the rest of it. We know that that

happened but the question is how many of the high

level officers are on the globalist team?

 

DGP: I can only say several of the highest level are

members now of the Council on Foreign Relations. The

important thing to consider is how many of them are

sincere in their beliefs as enunciated by the CFR. I

believe there are several sleepers and I believe I

know some of them personally who are three and

four-star generals. They are members of the CFR but

" their heart belongs to Jesus, " if I can use that

expression because they are true Semper Fidelity

people. Some of them happen to be Marines. And I'm

counting on them to do the right thing. And I bring

this out in book 3.

 

AJ: Absolutely and we'll tell people how they can get

those books. I mean I want to carry them but Colonel,

your experience in the military, your experience in

the intelligence agencies, there's also the danger

though obviously in any military movement of that

nature that it could be self-serving as well, and set

up its own form of wickedness.

 

DGP: Yes, that's plausible, that's correct. I don't

believe it will happen in exactly that fashion. And

the thing about a coup d'etat and a counter-coup

d'etat is you never know when it's going to happen.

You never know exactly who is involved. This is a plus

for any planners of a counter-coup d'etat.

 

AJ: Well, this is certainly dividing the wheat from

the chaff. How many people, and we'll get the answer

to the question when we get back from your feelers in

the Pentagon, how many people in there now know that

an element of the global system, a crime syndicate,

carried out 91, I mean, only an idiot would know,

would think they didn't but the point is, this has got

to be accelerating the division. And I want to get

your take on the pulse of that and we'll take calls

when we get back. Stay with us.

 

BREAK

 

AJ: We are talking to Col. Donn de Grand-Pre and he

worked in many of the levels of the U.S. military and

has put out some really important information. Two

years ago, he put out a report in a meeting in a

72-hour deliberation, a group of military and civilian

U.S. pilots under the chairmanship of Col. Donn de

Grand-Pre. After deliberating non-stop for 72-hours

has concluded that the flight crews of the four

passenger airliners involved in the September 11th

tragedy had no control over the aircraft. And they get

into how the military industrial complex clearly, that

is elements of it, were in control of this. Colonel,

we are going to go to some calls here in a minutes

after you cover some other issues with us. But,

understand this, my question of what percentage of the

officers, period, in the military do you think have

finally woken up to the true magnitude of what's going

on?

 

DGP: Well, I'm in personal contact at least on a

weekly basis with the Joint Chiefs and other select

people. My computation is that 70% of us are with us.

That's the higher ranking military, field grade

officers, etc. and even the first three grades of the

enlisted ' 70% are with us.

 

AJ: Well, they've had questionnaires, you know, a

decade ago, will you fire on U.S. citizens under UN

control if the president says so ' and, you know, 74%

say no to that. Okay, then how are the globalists

getting away with this?

 

DGP: Sheer [Garbled] bluff and we can thank many of

the neocons who are now in power in the Defense Dept.

particularly. They get away with it because they try

it out and see if anybody will salute the flag and

that's the way it goes.

 

AJ: So basically, they wrap their un-American agenda

in a flag and the general public buys it so the

military has to sit there and take it.

 

DGP: They do, yes, and I think those days are coming

to an end. The military ain't going to take it any

longer.

 

AJ: How did the military ever get convinced to use

depleted uranium in areas where there is going to be

troops?

 

DGP: To put what Alex?

 

AJ: Well, yeah, the military gets treated like dog

meat. You've got the depleted uranium, Colonel, where

they spray the depleted uranium everywhere where the

troops breathe it at 1900 times safe levels. How can

the Pentagon put up with that?

 

DGP: Well, the DU rounds are over-played, first of

all. They aren't that potent and secondarily, we must

consider that weapons of mass destruction have already

been used by some of the opposition in the period

February of 1991. Weapons of mass destruction,

including low-yield nuclear weapons.

 

AJ: Okay, can you break that down for us?

 

DGP: Well, I break it down in the time frame that we

had satellite images of rounds or missiles being fired

from the Negev desert toward Baghdad. That's 600 miles

distance. And six or eight of the rounds came in. That

was February of 1991.

 

AJ: Are you saying that the Israelis used miniaturized

nuclear weapons?

 

DGP: Yes sir. That's what I'm saying, in plain

English.

 

AJ: Well I remember, I know they bragged that they had

a lot of really sophisticated miniaturized nuclear

weapons, of the little mini-frogs, or whatever. But

and I know there were these giant mushroom clouds on

the news. They'd say, " Oh, that's not a nuke. That's

just a weapons depot. " But you are saying that it is

common knowledge at the Pentagon that Israel was

firing nuclear weapons at Iraq?

 

DGP: That is correct.

 

AJ: Oh, so that's where all this high-level radiation

is emanating from?

 

DGP: That is correct. And I have verification of that.

I think it's in book 2. And I think it will stand up

in most scrutiny.

 

AJ: Well, I know your work on September 11th certainly

has. Do you think the globalists are going to have the

will to carry out another massive attack here in the

U.S. to try to get control back over the population

and get their agenda back on track? Or do you think

they've calculated, computed as you said, that that

will blow up in their face because so many people now

know who the real terrorists are?

 

DGP: That's a two-prong question, Alex. I think it

deserves a studied answer. The only thing I can say is

I'm not sure how it will turn out. But it is very

dangerous.

 

AJ: From watching the globalists, I think they had a

plan, they are still following a plan but I think they

are shook-up. I think, from the evidence, in fact I

know from the evidence, that a lot of things they

planned haven't gone according to schedule and so they

don't know what to do right now.

 

DGP: This is correct. I think it's personified in the

persona of the Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul

Wolfowitz. They almost got him in Baghdad when they

fired the salvo, one night, of weaponry and they

scared Paul Wolfowitz off. He's ready to resign or get

the hell out.

 

AJ: You think that was U.S. forces doing that?

 

DGP: I believe it. It was very well planned again and

...

 

AJ: Yeah, only U.S. forces would know that he would be

there. Yeah.

 

DGP: That is correct. And the precision of those

weapons that came into the hotel. There were eleven

rounds in all and I can speak from authenticity that

they scared the hell out of Paul Wolfowitz. And

probably, C. Paul Bremer, or whatever his name is.

 

AJ: Why does the Pentagon hate Wolfowitz?

 

DGP: Wolfowitz has been in this game since 1974. I was

still on active duty when I met him in 1974 and he was

coming on strong even then. And along with him,

Richard Perle and a couple of the others who are now

known as neoconservatives.

 

AJ: Now Perle had the nickname as the crazy and the

prince of darkness. Is that correct?

 

DGP: That is correct.

 

AJ: Why was he known as the prince of darkness?

 

DGP: I can't answer that directly. He was a snake to

begin with but nothing was ever straight forward as

far as Richard Perle was concerned. I introduced book

3 two quotes stating that Richard Perle is a madman.

And it goes on from there.

 

AJ: Well he is a madman. He was at a press dinner last

year and, again, giggling and laughing about how we

are going to have World War III, we are going to nuke

everyone, ha, ha, ha. And then he goes, " Isn't that

impressive " and started grabbing on some women. I

mean, he's a complete lunatic.

 

DGP: That is correct. Richard Perle's days are

numbered. I don't know if he realizes it but so many

of these so-called neocons, you'll notice now, that

they are very quiet indeed. They are not really

surfacing anymore, including Dick Cheney.

 

AJ: Yeah, why is Dick Cheney been literally hiding

under a bunker?

 

DGP: He's been hiding under a bunker most of the time

since September 11th.

 

AJ: And, by the way, it has come out that he took

control of NORAD and was saying something in the U.S.

ultra-secret bunkers, that he was on loud-speakers

ordering people to follow his orders. He had to

physically take control of something, from my sources,

it was the fact that they were going to go ahead and

shoot the aircraft down. That's what I've got from

lawyers who represent military officers. We know he

was in control through even during the hijackings, the

supposed hijackings. What do you know about that?

 

DGP: Well, not too much really. I can't speak to that

because it's hypothetical and what I try to stick to

are the cold hard facts.

 

AJ: Well, Colonel, we know he did take control of the

bunkers. I just don't know what he said, according to

ABC News but according to my sources which have been

very accurate, he was ordering a stand down.

 

DGP: Yes, I can believe it but again, it's supposition

and I still haven't been able to figure out what makes

Dick Cheney tick.

 

AJ: So, well then why is he hiding in a bunker? Why is

he at the Naval Observatory in a bunker most of the

time?

 

DGP: I think that that is what he considers to be the

safest place at the moment. He's basically a coward

and this too will come out. I feel that Dick Cheney

and Paul Wolfowitz, both of them, their days are

numbered.

 

AJ: Okay, so politically more and more corruption

coming out, more and more of their criminal activities

coming out, serious issues. Colonel, how do folks get

your books, the three-part series?

 

DGP: Okay, the book is easy to come by. My

incomparable daughter Doneva is the publisher of these

books and they are turning out top-grade, library

quality books. Books 1, 2, and 3 ' " Barbarians Inside

the Gates. " They can be obtained by writing to post

office box 1124, Madison, Virginia 22727. And send it

in care of Grand-Pre Publishing, Ltd. And for the

price of $30, you can get book 1. $30 again is book 2.

And then for book 3 that just came out and it's a big

book, 608 pages, we've had to up the price to $45.

 

AJ: Alright, these are thick books, jam-packed and the

address is PO 1124, Madison, Virginia. And that zip

code again'

 

DGP: 22727.

 

AJ: Alright and does that $30 include the shipping?

 

DGP: No, it really doesn't. For the books and we send

them all out priority special handling, that's runs

$3.85 a book.

 

AJ: Okay, got you. Alright we'll give that out again a

little bit later. So let's go ahead and take some

calls.

 

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AJ: All right, 8 minutes, 30 seconds into this third

hour. Again I'm Alex Jones, your host. We'll have our

guest with us for another twenty-five minutes or so,

then I'm going to get into this big stack of news that

we have not detailed yet. Believe me it's all very

important. Our guest is Col. Donn de Grand-Pre.

Honored to have him on the show. He's the author of a

three-part series of books, " Barbarians Inside the

Gates. " And real quick, John in New York, you had a

question about 9/11.

 

John: It's not a question. I want to make a comment. I

was in the Air Force. My career field was radar

operations and I was assigned to the Air Defense

Command. The airliners turned around at Erie,

Pennsylvania and were off-course for approximately

one-hour, at the wrong altitude, at the wrong speed,

without radio contact and it is absolutely insane for

anybody to believe that could have happened unless

people were told to stand down.

 

AJ: Well, Payne Stewart, in 18 minutes had five F-16s

around him in the middle of no where. In the most

sensitive air corridor in the world, the eastern coast

there, D.C./ New York, with these four planes all over

the map. And they know there's been hijackings and

Dick Cheney's in control. Everything's standing down

and ....

 

John: The fighters that were stationed in Virginia,

just across the border from Washington, D.C., could

have been flying at bust speed, which is max speed,

they could have intercepted those planes in 15 minutes

and saved all that tragedy. And the second airplane

was 15 minutes behind the first airplane. So to think

they didn't do anything about the second one makes it

even more ludicrous. So, terrific guest; terrific

show. Thanks for taking my call.

 

AJ: All right, and again, we don't even do this

justice to focus on one area. I mean we've got all the

public officials being told not to go to New York, the

insider trading by the CIA, the Bushes protecting the

bin Ladens. Colonel, do you want to comment on that?

 

DGP: Well, what I was trying to get through here, John

has done a beautiful job of laying it all out here on

911. What I want to carry away is that the Chairman of

the Joint Chiefs himself has agreed, there were no

hijackers. There were no cell phone calls. Everybody

aboard that aircraft, pilots and crew, were

unconscious within 8 to 18 minutes after take-off. And

you can take it from there. I've got it covered in

books 2 and 3, what actually happened.

 

AJ: So, they're knocked out and then the remote

control takes place and the rest is history.

 

DGP: Yeah, there was remote control and .. yes.

 

AJ: By the way, people don't believe they have that.

Kennedy's oldest son, JFK's big brother, died in a

chase plane with remote controlling in a bomber loaded

with explosives as a drone in 1944.

 

DGP: That is correct.

 

AJ: So this very old technology, folks. And for people

that are in total denial, it's ridiculous. Let's go

ahead and talk to Wayne in Virginia. Wayne, thanks for

holding, go ahead.

 

Wayne: Yes sir, thank you. I have a two-part question.

The first part is Colonel..ah.

 

AJ: Donn de Grand-Pre

 

Wayne: de Grand-Pre. I'm sorry sir, I stumbled over

your name. Could you play the instructor with us

ground-pounders for a little while and tell us why,

from an airmanship point of view, the maneuvers the

aircraft performed were just inexplicable and

bordering on the impossible from a pilot's point of

view?

 

DGP: Yes, let me get that real quick for Wayne from

Virginia. These planes were being piloted by remote

control, probably an AWACs aircraft taking over that

airplane or airplanes or drones, unmanned drones. And

flying them at 5 and 8 G-force that no pilot could

withstand. So, in short, and if you read books 2 and

3, you will discover how and why this came about.

 

Wayne: The second part of my question is after 911,

our Congressman from down here, Randy Forbes spoke at

a Veterans' Foreign Wars Hall about how close he was

to the Bush and Rumsfeld cabal and how before 911 he

had a briefing at the White House where they were told

they were expecting something big from Afghanistan.

And he also in his discussion, there were about 200 or

300 people there, it is recorded on film. And my notes

are very clear on this. He also said they were

following other aircraft out over the ocean. Do you

have any knowledge of that? That is something that I

have not heard discussed at all about 911.

 

DGP: No, but this comes under speculation now. And I'm

telling you that we are knowledgeably speculating.

Those aircraft carrying crew and passengers went over

the Atlantic and that was all she wrote.

 

[Crosstalk]

 

AJ: Yeah, you remote control the original planes out,

then your loaded up drones attack. And the biggest and

oldest newspaper in Spain just came out, three weeks

ago, and they looked at the bottom of one of those

jets and there's some type of giant belly attachment.

It's clearly a modified aircraft.

 

Wayne: Can I ask one final question?

 

AJ: Yes.

 

Wayne: That your line of discussion here, the Colonel

in the past few minutes, has just opened up. You said

earlier that you expected when push comes to shove

that this 70% of general and field grade officers are

going to say that's it. Well the enterprise that we

are discussing here of taking regularly scheduled

civilian airlines out and ditching them in the ocean

and putting in their places aerial bombs....

 

AJ: Yeah, that is push coming to shove.

 

Wayne: That is it. Why aren't these people coming

forward now'

 

AJ: Let me say this. We know because, folks I don't

want to give too much detail out. I've talked to

lawyers. I've talked to them. We know hundreds of high

level officers have leaked everything we are now

learning about today. So, I think that this caught a

lot of people unawares. Colonel, do you want to

comment on that?

 

DGP: Well, the only thing I can say is that let's

consider that second aircraft that hit the World Trade

Center. It did have a control device on the belly of

the 757. That aircraft was unmanned and went in and

blew up as a diversion. And something else happened.

This was a sideshow.

 

AJ: I understand but going back to, we know they had

bombs in the buildings, it's now admitted, but going

back to what the caller said, your saying these

elements in the military when push came to shove are

going to stand up. Well, I would say that 911 was the

globalists pushing. So, where's the shove? That's his

question.

 

DGP: Well this will come. It's going to be in the form

of a counter-coup d'tat. You understand that a coup

d'tat was pulled on September 11th by the civilian

hierarchy. [crosstalk] Say again?

 

Wayne: God grant that it would come soon.

 

DGP: Well, we, we, yes it probably will.

 

Wayne: They are talking about going into Syria now.

 

DGP: Don't believe it. There is a new ballgame there

and I can't go into it right now. But Syria is going

to be something else entirely involving NATO forces.

And I can't go into that much right now.

 

AJ: Okay, thanks for the call, Wayne. Let's talk to

Diane in South Carolina. Diane, go ahead.

 

Diane: Hi, before I asked my question. Please ask Don

de Grand-Pre, Sir, to give us a phone number so we can

contact him. And I have read the first book. It is

awesome. It's like reading history and just watching

everything unfold.

 

AJ: Yeah, he wrote about it in 2000 and then it

happens a year later.

 

Diane: So, here's my question. On Thursday of last

week in the Courier in South Carolina, they had a

small article on the Russians who are now doing this

World War III practice.

 

AJ: Yeah, the Russians are doing nuclear attack drills

on us ' our little buddies, you know.

 

Diane: Okay, they had in there about a maneuverable

nuclear-tipped weapon for offensive purposes.....

 

AJ: Yeah, they say they've got a missile that nothing

can stop...

 

Diane: It's an airplane that goes five times the speed

of sound. This was in the paper.

 

AJ: Well, they've had that for a while. You want to

comment on that?

 

Diane: And my question is how is the foreign military

in the United States vs. our military going to

respond? And it looks like Russia is making some moves

now. What do you think about Russia?

 

AJ: Yeah Colonel, that's a good question. I have all

the articles, I have the documents they really are

trying to integrate foreign and East German, Czech

Republic, others into our military. How is that going?

 

DGP: It's probably going. I can't give you detail. You

are bordering on certain elements that I can't talk

about. But we have to consider the Russian aspect of

these weapons as being in essence propaganda. We have

the same type of unmanned aircraft drones, etc. that

will fly 5 times the speed of sound.

 

AJ: They will do a lot more than that.

 

DGP: Yeah, but Diane let's not worry too much about

the Russians.

 

Diane: Well, is there a non-gravitational type

airplane or something?

 

AJ: No, they've got regular propulsion air. .. look,

look Ma'am, they claim the SR 71 Blackbird in flight

in '55, in service in '59, was the fastest jet in the

world. It is not and it cruises at mach 3. Okay, I

mean they got jets that will just.....

 

Diane: I know we are way behind what they are telling

us. What I'm thinking....

 

AJ: Do you want to comment on that?

 

Diane: And ask him to give out his number for us, too.

 

DGP: Let me give you a home phone where you can

contact me at Grand Pre Publishing Ltd. at

540-547-2996. And that's my home phone. It's a private

phone and you can call me anytime.

 

AJ: Okay, now we know that you had a stroke a few

years ago worrying about this so much. So folks, don't

bug him too much. Hey, I feel like I'm going to have

one everyday worrying about this.

 

DGP: I can handle just about anything including this

15-year old gelding that I was riding this morning.

 

AJ: Okay, well that's good sir. We'll be right back.

We'll take more calls.

 

BREAK

 

AJ: All right folks. Here's the deal, we are going to

take 5 more calls for our guest. Then let our guest

go. I really appreciate him coming on. Then I'm going

to cover a bunch of news that we haven't really

detailed yet. It's very, very important and recap some

top stories as well. Diane had asked your phone number

and if you want to give it out, that's fine. Folks, if

you want to talk to the Colonel, it's 540-547-2996.

And before he leaves us in the next segment, we'll

give you the mailing address again to get the books.

Let's talk to John in Tennessee. John, you are on the

air, go ahead.

 

John: Colonel, did a cruise missile hit the Pentagon

or a Global Hawk or a drone business jet?

 

DGP: You are talking about what hit the Pentagon,

right John? It was a cruise missile. It could have

been a Global Hawk. It was not a commercial aircraft.

 

AJ: That's what the eye-witnesses said and the

evidence shows. And do people realize that this was

staged at the Pentagon? I mean obviously it's in an

area that's under renovation and then all this

happens. Do people at the Pentagon? are they still

buying the official story, Colonel?

 

DGP: Well, I can't speak for the rest of them but I'm

certainly not buying that. And I think I've got the

full story in book 3. And that's it. It was a

diversionary hit for strategic reasons and it didn't

matter whether it was a pilotless drone or a Global

Hawk missile. It wasn't a commercial aircraft.

 

AJ: It's the most surveilled area in the world but no

video of it. Witnesses said they saw a small aircraft.

 

DGP: No, they did not. We have [garbled] a video that

purports to show a firing of a launch probably from a

Global Hawk or an unmanned aircraft missile but it

certainly wasn't a commercial aircraft.

 

John: And was United Airlines Flight 93 shot down in

Pennsylvania by a U.S. or NATO pilot and was that what

was supposed to hit the Pentagon?

 

DGP: No, that was hit at 10:00 hours. It was taken out

by the North Dakota Air Guard. I know the pilot who

fired those two missiles to take down 93.

 

John: Was it shot down because the airline pilots

actually regained control of the hijacked auto-pilot

or was that to replace the unmanned drone that was

shot down?

 

DGP: No, it was the aircraft, you see, had totally

unconscious people on board. There were no hijackers.

At 9:35, the Happy Hooligans, the Air Guard flying the

F-16s were ordered to take that plane out. And they

took it out from 9:35 to 10:00.

 

John: Were there any refueling jets involved in that

operation?

 

AJ: Hold on a second, John. The question is why would

they deviate from the plan of flying it into the

Capitol? Why did the globalists decide to go ahead and

shoot the plane down?

 

DGP: There had been an adjustment to the controls,

probably by an AWACs aircraft flying overhead, again,

remote control. And it was on a course for either the

Capitol or the White House. And at this stage, you

don't know. The Happy Hooligans came in and took care

of it.

 

AJ: Do you think they were not following orders?

 

DGP: Who, the Happy Hooligans?

 

AJ: Well, yeah, you've got Cheney running around,

we've got the stand down taking place.

 

DGP: Well, this is correct, but you see the Adj.

General of the State of North Dakota gave the command

to take it out. And, by God, they took it out. And

I've got the full story in the book.

 

AJ: That's a good thing they did that. You said you

talked to the pilot. Think about this folks. Imagine

what Bush would have gotten if he would have had that

plane fly into the Capitol? Imagine the police state

we would be in right now.

 

DGP: Yes, yes, yes, indeed.

 

AJ: And so you had to have the diversionary blast at

the Pentagon so no one would get suspicious and think

it was a military coup.

 

DGP: Perhaps, perhaps.

 

AJ: John, does that answer your question?

 

John: Was there any refueling tankers used by the

North Dakota Air Guard and what tanker wing was used?

 

DGP: I don't know about the aircraft itself. I don't

know about refueling. They came off base in Langley

and it was just a few minutes out from Langley to the

intercept over Pennsylvania. It was just a matter of

minutes.

 

AJ: Colonel, how did you get in touch with the pilot

who shot the plane down?

 

DGP: It turned out to be an old friend of mine from

the Air National Guard and this is my home state of

North Dakota. And I attended the ceremony in North

Dakota and watched the Adj. General [garbled] the

pilot being decorated a year later for this activity

that happened on 911 with Flight 93.

 

BREAK

 

AJ: Welcome back. We are about to go back to the

Colonel and his amazing revelation of the North Dakota

National Guard that had been moved to Langley Virginia

a few months before 911. And then went in there and

shot down that Flight 93 over Pennsylvania. He says

he's talked to the pilot. His info checks out. I've

been researching what he's been doing for years.

Before we go back to our guest and 4 final calls from

Scott and June and Warren and Greg, and we'll go to

you quick too, because we've got a bunch of news we

need to get to.

 

[skipped segment]

 

Colonel, before we take these four final calls, go

over that a little bit slower for folks. That's a big

deal. You talked to the pilot, a friend of yours, who

shot down Flight 93 that was going for the Capitol or

the White House. And go over that for folks.

 

DGP: Okay, quick rundown. They were out of Hector

Field, Fargo, North Dakota. A bunch, this 119 Fighter

Group and they are called the Happy Hooligans. They

are probably the best interceptors that we have in the

country. They were moved to Langley Air Force Base

from Hector Field down to Southern Virginia. And when

the klaxon horn went off at 9:35, those two pilots put

down their coffee and shot into their aircraft and

took off. They didn't know where they were going

initially but by 10:00 hours, they had rendezvoused

over Southern Pennsylvania. That's about 250 miles in

just a matter of minutes and engaged 93 with two

side-winder missiles. And they accomplished their

objective. Now Hector Field, I use to fly out of

Hector Field some time ago. I know most of those

pilots. I could name names. I know the National Guard

Adj. General. And they were decorated about a year

later and I have the full write up of that story in my

book.

 

AJ: Yeah and it's just ignored by the media. I have

that article, too. And later, well okay, it was a

missile, well there wasn't " Let's Roll. " It's all

made-up theatre for the public and we buy it like a

bunch of saps.

 

DGP: That is correct.

 

AJ: It's incredible. Let's go ahead and talk to Scott

in Florida. Scott, go ahead.

 

Scott: Hi, how you doing?

 

AJ: Fine.

 

Scott: Earlier in the show, you mentioned that both

Cheney and Wolfowitz might be in some trouble. I was

wondering if they'd been serving the real rulers of

the world, the thirteen families or whatever they are,

and been dutifully pushing the agenda for world

government....

 

AJ: Yeah, obviously they are just minions, [crosstalk]

policy wonk puppets, so you're saying.....

 

Scott: If they've been doing a good job for them, why

are they in danger vs. a Powell or Rice or Bush, or

all they all in danger?

 

AJ: Or in danger of Rockefeller?

 

Scott: Right.

 

DGP: Cheney is closest to the action. He was probably

most involved in all of the details of September 11th

and he'll be one of the first to fall. So I predict, I

predict that Cheney will be out of here inside of,

well prior to the election.

 

Scott: Is that because he knows exactly what happened

or because ...

 

DGP: Yes, he knows exactly what happened.

 

Scott: You have to eliminate all those people.

 

DGP: Several, yes.

 

AJ: Now, again...

 

Scott: Wouldn't that serve as a warning to anybody who

would serve them in the future?

 

DGP: Perhaps but these guys can only understand one

ingredient and that is force. And that's why it has to

emanate from the military. And military force in the

persona of military tribunals will takeover. And

Cheney, as I reiterate, is toast.

 

AJ: But they are the ones who are creating the

tribunals. I will say this. Gen. Rick Bacchus, over a

year ago, Rhode Island native, the head of Gitmo,

Guantanamo Bay, he resigned and said, " I'm not going

to torture innocent people. " Now that hardly got any

press. We have two-star generals quitting. We have a

lot of people not going along with this already.

 

DGP: And there will be a lot more, Alex.

 

AJ: Pardon me?

 

DGP: There will be a lot more people either resigning

or retiring. And yet it's going to come out and there

will be military tribunals.

 

 

Follow up to Flight 93 Story:

http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/june2004/062904rickgibney.htm

 

 

Is the Rick Gibney Flight 93 Story a Hoax?

 

Alex Jones' Prison Planet | June 29 2004

 

Yesterday we were able to confirm that Colonel Don de

Grand-pre claims he spoke face to face with Maj. Rick

Gibney and Gibney told him that he was the pilot who

shot down Flight 93.

 

We are still investigating this matter in trying to

uncover the truth while not going out on a limb to say

whether this is accurate or not.

 

However, an article from a September 11 website states

that Gibney was not scrambled to track Flight 93, but

that he was flying into New York. The article states,

 

Derrig, Maj. Dean Eckman and Capt. Craig Borgstrom

scrambled from Langley Air Force Base, Va., to protect

the nation's capital. Maj. Rick Gibney took off from

Fargo to fly the New York emergency management

director from Montana to New York.

 

We have now uncovered footage of the award ceremony in

which Gibney is honored for his activities on

September 11. Would Gibney be rewarded simply for

flying an official to New York?

 

On the other hand, the official FAA Registry does list

Gibney's certificate as 'Airline Transport Pilot.

 

Award Ceremony Photos

 

http://www.governor.state.nd.us/media/gallery/2002-911/911-photos.html

 

 

We are attempting to contact Mr. Gibney. If anyone can

help us get in touch, please E mail us at

prisonplanetweb.

 

Colonel Don de Grand-pre first raised awareness to the

fate of Flight 93 during an interview on The Alex

Jones Show back in February.

 

The Colonel's original comments from the interview

back in February appear below.

 

The full interview can be read

http://www.prisonplanet.com/022904degrand.html

 

Caller : And was United Airlines Flight 93 shot down

in Pennsylvania by a U.S. or NATO pilot and was that

what was supposed to hit the Pentagon?

 

DGP: No, that was hit at 10:00 hours. It was taken out

by the North Dakota Air Guard. I know the pilot who

fired those two missiles to take down 93.

 

Caller : Was it shot down because the airline pilots

actually regained control of the hijacked auto-pilot

or was that to replace the unmanned drone that was

shot down?

 

DGP: No, it was the aircraft, you see, had totally

unconscious people on board. There were no hijackers.

At 9:35, the Happy Hooligans, the Air Guard flying the

F-16s were ordered to take that plane out. And they

took it out from 9:35 to 10:00.

 

Caller : Were there any refueling jets involved in

that operation?

 

AJ: Hold on a second, John. The question is why would

they deviate from the plan of flying it into the

Capitol? Why did the globalists decide to go ahead and

shoot the plane down?

 

DGP: There had been an adjustment to the controls,

probably by an AWACs aircraft flying overhead, again,

remote control. And it was on a course for either the

Capitol or the White House. And at this stage, you

don't know. The Happy Hooligans came in and took care

of it.

 

AJ: Do you think they were not following orders?

 

DGP: Who, the Happy Hooligans?

 

AJ: Well, yeah, you've got Cheney running around,

we've got the stand down taking place.

 

DGP: Well, this is correct, but you see the Adj.

General of the State of North Dakota gave the command

to take it out. And, by God, they took it out. And

I've got the full story in the book.

 

AJ: That's a good thing they did that. You said you

talked to the pilot. Think about this folks. Imagine

what Bush would have gotten if he would have had that

plane fly into the Capitol? Imagine the police state

we would be in right now.

 

John: Was there any refueling tankers used by the

North Dakota Air Guard and what tanker wing was used?

 

DGP: I don't know about the aircraft itself. I don't

know about refueling. They came off base in Langley

and it was just a few minutes out from Langley to the

intercept over Pennsylvania. It was just a matter of

minutes.

 

AJ: Colonel, how did you get in touch with the pilot

who shot the plane down?

 

DGP: It turned out to be an old friend of mine from

the Air National Guard and this is my home state of

North Dakota. And I attended the ceremony in North

Dakota and watched the Adj. General [garbled] the

pilot being decorated a year later for this activity

that happened on 911 with Flight 93.

 

Colonel, before we take these four final calls, go

over that a little bit slower for folks. That's a big

deal. You talked to the pilot, a friend of yours, who

shot down Flight 93 that was going for the Capitol or

the White House. And go over that for folks.

 

DGP: Okay, quick rundown. They were out of Hector

Field, Fargo, North Dakota. A bunch, this 119 Fighter

Group and they are called the Happy Hooligans. They

are probably the best interceptors that we have in the

country. They were moved to Langley Air Force Base

from Hector Field down to Southern Virginia. And when

the klaxon horn went off at 9:35, those two pilots put

down their coffee and shot into their aircraft and

took off. They didn't know where they were going

initially but by 10:00 hours, they had rendezvoused

over Southern Pennsylvania. That's about 250 miles in

just a matter of minutes and engaged 93 with two

side-winder missiles. And they accomplished their

objective. Now Hector Field, I use to fly out of

Hector Field some time ago. I know most of those

pilots. I could name names. I know the National Guard

Adj. General. And they were decorated about a year

later and I have the full write up of that story in my

book.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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