Psychosis, Schizophrenia, and Nutritional Therapy

[Guest guest]

If there a typo here when using the word niacin the 2nd time?

This sentence doesn't make any sense and it IS taken from

the actual web link.

 

.... " the same gram amount as the niacin " . Can someone clarify this?

It shows up in the very last paragraph down below.

 

>>> " Niacin's side effects, such as some possible changes

in liver function, are minimized when you take at least

the same gram amount as the niacin, " I answered. " <<<<

 

Thanks... Jan

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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 00:58:27 -0000 " califpacific "

<califpacific writes:

http://www.doctoryourself.com/psychiatry.html

 

Psychosis, Schizophrenia, and Nutritional Therapy

 

Spooky: that's psychosis. Jim, a young man aged 21, was brought in to

me by his Mom and Dad. They looked uncomfortable, and he looked

miserable. Jim was a diagnosed schizophrenic. He was so violent that

he had been - get this - kicked out of the State Hospital and sent

home to his parents. You've got to love that logic.

 

Jim had been unmanageable, of course. He threatened his parents'

lives on a daily basis and was punching holes in the walls. He slept

one hour per night, and roamed the city streets the other seven or

eight. Jim is one of the premier reasons to not be out too late

yourself. His face was scaly and severely broken out with acne. His

dietary and digestive habits were appalling, and he was, to quote Far

Side cartoonist Gary Larson, just plain nuts.

 

I faced this unhappy trio and felt helpless. The good part of it all

was that they'd caught Jim on a good day (as far as I could see) and

he wasn't going to tear up the place. From somewhere I recalled the

three D's of pellagra, that " extinct " niacin deficiency disease:

dermatitis, dementia, and diarrhea. It was a reasonably close

textbook match to the walking, talking Jim in front of me. I was also

aware of the work of Abram Hoffer, MD, a Canadian psychiatrist. Since

the early 1950's, Dr. Hoffer had cured a vast number of psychotic

patients with megadoses of niacin and vitamin C. The success of such

vitamin treatments had earned him a quack's label too, of course.

 

But three feet away from me was a psycho with two terrified parents.

Medical science had not helped him, and had, ironically, discharged

him in the face of its own impotence.

 

I told them about Dr. Hoffer's approach.

 

" We'll try anything, " the father said, and the mother nodded

energetically.

 

" Jim, how about you? " I asked.

 

" Yeah, I'll take the stuff, " Jim said.

 

" I'll settle for that. Dr. Hoffer would have you take about, oh,

three thousand milligrams of niacin a day, and you'll want to take

about 10,000 milligrams of vitamin C daily as well. "

 

" Why? " everybody asked at once.

 

" Niacin deficiency actually causes psychosis, as well as the skin and

GI problems that Jim happens to be experiencing. He may just need

more niacin than the average person. Probably a lot more. At really

large doses, niacin has a profound calming, sedating effect. Yet it

is not a drug, but a nutrient. The safety margin is huge. Hoffer

has prescribed as much as 20,000 milligrams a day. He says that

something in the vicinity of 40,000 to 200,000 milligrams a day is

toxic. 3,000 milligrams is actually not a particularly high dose...

to Dr. Hoffer. "

 

" And the vitamin C? " the father asked.

 

" Niacin's side effects, such as some possible changes in liver

function, are minimized when you take at least the same gram amount as

the niacin, " I answered. " As an added precaution, I think you should

take even more C than that. Linus Pauling, Ph.D. thinks that 10,000

milligrams for a man is just an everyday dose. Per human body weight,

it is the same amount that a goat, cow, mouse, dog or cat would make

each day. Why would nature have these animals make that much for

nothing? I think we should copy their example. These vitamins, at

worst, are much less risky than any of the prescriptions Jim's ever

tried, at their best. "

 

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[Guest guest]

I think they were talking about Vitamin C and niacin and where it says

" Niacin's side effects, such as some possible changes in liver function, are

minimized when you take at least the same gram amount as the niacin " they

mean you should take at least the same gram amount of Vitamin C as the

niacin so if you take 5 grams of niacin, you should also take 5 grams of

Vitamin C. But in the article I think the doctor suggested a much higher

dose of Vitamin C, I think about twice as much as the niacin. I just

overflew the article and saved it so don't know the exact doses.

Interesting though!

 

Ulrike

 

 

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> If there a typo here when using the word niacin the 2nd time?

> This sentence doesn't make any sense and it IS taken from

> the actual web link.

>

> ... " the same gram amount as the niacin " . Can someone clarify this?

> It shows up in the very last paragraph down below.

>

>>>> " Niacin's side effects, such as some possible changes

> in liver function, are minimized when you take at least

> the same gram amount as the niacin, " I answered. " <<<<

>

> Thanks... Jan

> =================================================