Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 > SSRI-Research > Tue, 17 Aug 2004 00:04:55 -0400 > [sSRI-Research] SSRIs: Unprecedented > response to South African T.V. show on SSRIs & > SNRIs > > Paragraph 7 reads: " Derek Watts (Carte Blanche > presenter): " Response to our programme was > overwhelming. Our office was truly inundated with > calls and hundreds of you sent faxes and e-mails. " > > Excerpts from letters: > " .drastic changes started taking place.He changed > from a calm even-tempered person to a raving mad > man. > " I became very aggressive, having dreams of murder. " > " After taking the medication for three days I became > very restless and one night almost even harmed one > of my friends.Tell people.warn them. " > > http://www.mnet.co.za/CarteBlanche/Display/Display.asp?Id=2587 > > Antidepressants 2 > > Date : 15 August 2004 > Producer : Odette Quesnel > Presenter : Derek Watts > Researcher : Bernadette Cook > Genre : Medical and Health > > Carte Blanche July 2004: > Case Study: " So I went into the kitchen and turned > the light on, and she was lying there on the floor - > and I knew that she was dead. " > > Carte Blanche July 2004: > Case Study: " It actually got so bad, and I was so > confused that at one point I was sitting in my room > with a shotgun in my mouth. " > > Suicide, aggression and violence - is there a link > with popular antidepressants, a class of drugs known > as SSRIs? That's the question we asked in July this > year. Medical experts from around the world answered > it. > > Dr. David Healy (Dept. Psychological Medicine, > University of North Wales): " If they are not the > right drug for you, they can cause a range of > problems. They can make you suicidal, they can throw > you into a state of turmoil; people start having > thoughts of harming themselves or harming others. " > > Prof. Christopher Szabo (Clinical Head, Wits > University): " When you're dealing with someone who > is depressed, forget the drug that you're treating > them with. You know that suicidality is always a > possibility. " > > Dr. Joseph Glenmullen (Harvard Medical School): " We > don't know how these drugs work, we don't know > exactly what their effects are, both therapeutic and > [what] the side effects are in the brain. " > > Derek Watts (Carte Blanche presenter): " Response to > our programme was overwhelming. Our office was truly > inundated with calls and hundreds of you sent faxes > and e-mails. " > > Excerpts from letters: > " .drastic changes started taking place.He changed > from a calm even-tempered person to a raving mad > man. > " I became very aggressive, having dreams of murder. " > " After taking the medication for three days I became > very restless and one night almost even harmed one > of my friends.Tell people.warn them. " > > Derek: " Some of you didn't like our story. " > > About eight percent of you criticised us. > > Excerpts from letters: > " I am very concerned about the impact that the show > will have. It is sometimes difficult to convince > patients suffering from depression to take the > medication and now it's probably even harder. " > " I was disgusted with the way that Carte Blanche > pounced on the drug companies. I can hardly believe > the eagerness to embarrass and to ridicule these > companies. " > " Without the medication and the knowledge of both my > GP and the psychologist I might not have been alive > today. " > " I must say, ever since I started taking Arapax, my > life changed for the best. " > " I was a tad disappointed that you did not bother to > mention the life saving benefits of antidepressants > and simply painted a picture of gloom and doom. " > > Derek: " For many people, antidepressants are a > wonder drug. They help millions of people worldwide > - we're saying it now, and we said it then. " > > Carte Blanche 2004: > Patient: " I really don't know what would have > happened to me had I not been helped in that way. " > > Patient: " I don't know if that very bad next down I > had would have been the end. " > > Patient: " I'm back on my antidepressants and I feel > a totally different person. " > > Professor Szabo believes, without a doubt, that if > correctly prescribed and carefully monitored, these > drugs work. > > Prof. Szabo: " The truth of the matter is these are > powerful medications and it would be sad if a class > of drugs was tarnished on the basis of a number of > case reports. " > > Derek: " But the vast majority of you thanked us for > doing the programme. More than 70% of you said that > you or your loved ones had experienced severe and, > in some cases, lethal side effects. " > > Excerpts from letters: > " We were given no warning about the side effects. " > " He was acting so violently that I actually had to > lock him in the bedroom, away from me and the > children. " > " And totally unlike her, she had bouts of > aggression, and two months ago my lovely and > vivacious wife, only 35 years old, committed > suicide. " > " I'm writing to thank you from the bottom of my > heart for your programme.. " > " Yvonne clearly showed signs of agitation and > agitation before she committed suicide. She left > behind a 10 year old daughter. " > " When I told my GP that I was feeling murderous and > agitated, he told me not to look for sinister things > and promptly increased my dosage. " > > Derek: " Thank you for sharing your stories. We > listened. But the fact is that they are regarded as > anecdotal evidence that most of the medical world > does not take seriously. " > > Carte Blanche July 2004: > Navin Singh (Glaxo Smith Klein): " There is no > clinical evidence that shows Arapax causes suicide > or aggressive tendencies or introduces patients to > homicide. " > > Nevertheless, regulatory bodies from around the > world are beginning to sound alarm bells. > > In March this year, America's FDA issued a warning > about SSRI antidepressants - saying healthcare > providers should be aware that " . worsening symptoms > could be due to the underlying depression or might > be the result of drug therapy. " > > It's a warning that you won't find on package > inserts in South Africa. In our last programme we > asked drug manufacturers why. > > Frans Korb (Eli Lilly): " No directive has come from > the MCC (Medical Control Council) in South Africa > for all companies that manufacture antidepressants > to put that warning in. " > > It appears now that that directive is in the > pipeline. > > Dr Shabir Banoo (Medicines Control Council): " The > fact of the matter is that the MCC has now resolved > that these warnings need to be included in > information for these products. " > > Dr Shabir Banoo of the Medicines Control Council > says they take their mandate to protect the public > seriously and that they are taking action. > > Derek: " If we speak to you in, say three months, do > you think that warning will be in place? " > > Dr Banoo: " Absolutely. In fact what we would require > applicants to include in their product information > is the contra indication for use in children, as > well as the fact that there are reports relating to > suicidal ideation. " > > Derek: " Something else that many of you said in your > letters is that you had serious problems trying to > get off your medications. " > > Valerie Beatts: " The most bizarre symptoms were the > nightmares. They were horrific. " > > Valerie Beatts is among the 10 percent of our > viewers who complained that withdrawal was hell. > > Valerie: " You almost imagine that this medicine is > saying to you, 'I got you and I'm not going to let > you go'. " > > Valerie was being treated for depression and > prescribed Efexor - which is not an SSRI. It worked > for her, but medical aid stopped paying and she > asked her doctor to start weaning her off. > > Valerie: " And I really struggled. for months I was > ill. This nausea was worse than morning sickness 24 > hours of the day; tears at the drop of a hat. " > > Cathy Gallick: " You get, like, vertigo, and you get > a slushy feeling in your head - like electrical > impulses in your head. " > > Cathy Gallick says withdrawal from Efexor - even > under medical supervision - very nearly killed her. > > Cathy: " I think the withdrawals are like the kind a > person coming off heroin goes through. " > > After months of agony, Cathy's psychiatrist admitted > her to hospital. > > Cathy: " She said to me, 'You have got Serotonin > Syndrome. Your pupils are dilating, your speech is > slurred, your muscles are twitching.' She said, 'You > are very sick. I cannot believe that you allowed > yourself to get so sick before you came to > hospital.' Then I just looked at her, and said to > her, 'I'm not leaving this hospital before I get off > this drug.' " > > Cathy's case is extreme, but according to Dr Joseph > Glenmullen of Harvard University, discontinuation > symptoms are common. > > Dr. Joseph Glenmullen (Harvard University): " It can > take months to get off these antidepressants. They > cause a combination of physical symptoms of > withdrawal like dizziness, headaches, 'flu-like > aches and pains, nausea, vomiting, tremors, and very > strange sensory abnormalities. People will describe > these electric shock-like zaps in their head. " > > The problem, says Dr Glenmullen, is that many > doctors don't know how to help patients off of their > medication. > > Dr. Glenmullen: " Because 70% of prescriptions for > antidepressants are written by family doctors, it's > very important to be aware that a lot of family > doctors do not have enough experience of tapering > patients off antidepressants, so it's very important > to bring to their attention the need to slowly and > carefully taper people off the drugs. " > > Cathy was being tapered off. So, when withdrawal set > in, she went to her GP, psychiatrist, pharmacist and > even a neurologist. None of them, she says, could > help her. So, she spoke to a doctor from Wyeth > Pharmaceuticals - the manufacturer of Efexor. > > Cathy: " And I just said to her, you know, 'Please, I > am on this drug, it's giving me severe migraines, I > desperately want to come off it. Can you please just > give me some help?' She said, 'I'm very, very sorry. > It is our company policy that we do not discuss the > scientific facts of this drug with consumers.' " > > Their policy is that they will talk to doctors, but > not to patients. > > Our efforts to speak to Wyeth were equally in vain. > They denied our requests for interviews, sending us > a written response instead. They referred to the > package insert saying that discontinuation symptoms > have been reported, the dosage should be tapered and > the patient monitored. > > The insert also says that the majority of > discontinuation reactions are mild and resolve > without treatment. Not in Cathy's experience. > > Cathy: " Another thing that you go through, besides > the night sweats and vomiting, is your lack of > coordination. So suddenly your arms and legs aren't > doing what you're telling them to do, so I had my > husband helping me to just get out of bed and go to > the toilet. " > > We were provided with Wyeth documents which are not > for promotional use. They reveal that some patients > - about 0.4 % of them " experienced prolonged or > severe symptoms upon discontinuation or taper " . > > Cathy: " Okay, maybe there is a small percentage, but > then what about us small percentages? Don't we > count? " > > The Internet is littered with stories from people > calling to be counted. Thousands upon thousands tell > of agonising and horrific withdrawals. Then there > are the many, many calls for help - people who are > trying to get off Efexor and can't. > > Derek: " So, is Efexor addictive? That is one of the > issues we wanted to ask its maker. " > > It's an issue they did not directly respond to in > their letters. They did say that " Efexor is a > prescription schedule 5 medication and treatment > must accordingly be supervised by a medical doctor " . > > Les Aupias (Carte Blanche presenter): " Were you ever > warned that the drug could be addictive? " > > Valerie: " No, never. If someone said to you, 'I'll > give you this happiness in one hand, and in the > other hand, I'll take it away and make it really > difficult for you to come off the tablets, what > would you do?' I cannot answer that question; that > was how bad that withdrawal was. " > > Withdrawal from antidepressant medications can be > severe. > Do not under any circumstances attempt to stop > medication without expert medical supervision. > > > IMPORTANT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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