Helping someone who dose not want nor see the need for your help!

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Hello all,

 

It's me Michele again, I have a few questions to ponder lately, that

I thought you all might be able to help me with....

 

I have been reading a lot of news about the antipsycotic drugs like

Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Lithium and Klonopin, just to state a few.

which has drawn me to read a book recommended, " Your Drug may be Your

Problem " by Peter R. Breggin, MD and David Cohen, Ph.D.

 

The problem that I have is that I have taken Paxil and Prozac, I have

stated in previous posts. I know of the harsh reality of these drugs

and I am asking for the help of the group to further help another

friend that I have. Reading this book has really opened a new

perspective for me on this subject, it has lead me to believe that

there is too much of this " Drug " being distributed in the market.

 

I have a good friend that has had her son on these drugs for more

than 8 years now. After buying this book and reading it, it took me a

whole afternoon to read it, I bought and sent her a copy of this

book. In return I was sent an email and told that this book did

nothing for her and that there was not enough information in it for

her to look into stopping her sons medications, that if had I sent

her some " cold hard facts " that she might look into stopping her sons

meds.

 

Now all this coming from a mother, who by far is not the most

tenative mother to say the least. When her son was a mere 1 1/2 years

old she was giving him bottles of " Nyquil " to make him sleep. Then

progressed on to giving him a shot of Brandy, or even a shot of

Vodak, in his bottle to make him " sleep " , me being a bistander, I

have had the idea of calling the Police on her may a times. but to

say the least I did not, I tried to talk to her and tell her that

what she was doing was very wrong and that she should not be giving

her child anything like that. Her responce to me has always been the

same, " When You have twins and have to take care of them by your self

then You can tell me what to do and how to do it. " So, needless to

say I quit going over to her house and seeing her at all. We have

been friends for now 28 years and I do love her like a sister,

however I do not agree with the way she has treated her son and

deemed him a " Problem Child " , he is a loving child that in all

reality only needed someone to love him and spend some time with him.

So, every chance I had gotten I would go to her house and start to

spend some time with him, take him to the the park with my son and

they would play together and he was just fine, no problems to note.

 

Until the age of 5 years old this child was not really

anymore " Hyper " than any other child at 5 years of age. He was

energetic and full of spunk, this all changed when his mother tried

to have him put onto psychiatric drugs. She was pushing any and all

Dr.s' that she could to have him put on something! I kept asking her

why and she told me, " he was causing her to go crazy " " that he needed

to be put on medication, because the Dr. has seen some evidance that

he is hyper. " My only responce to this was, " sure he sees he is

hyper, he is only 5 years old! "

 

Needless to say he was prescribed drugs, Ritalin to be exact. So, a

while after this child was put on these drugs I was asked to babysit

him. I gave him his meds like I was told to do, reluctantly, and I

noticed that this lovely child that was so full of life had lost that

spunk in his eyes. He became lethargic and he really didn't seem to

like anything. After I fixed the children a dinner and was cleaning

up, he was sittiing under the table, I asked him to come out and

after a good 30 min. discussion with him, he still refused. So I just

left him there, now it was getting time for them to go to bed, so I

tried to talk him out from under that table. Still he refused, so I

pulled the chair away from the table and put out my hand for him, he

only slapped it away. So then I knelt down and started to talk to

him, to see if I could get him out from under the table. Only to my

suprise did this child who I loved like my own son, kicked me square

in the face and wrecked my glasses. I pushed the chair in and just

walked away. Yes I was mad and I wanted to explode, but I held my

anger, I wanted to show him that I was not like his mother and that I

would listen to him if he needed me too. I wanted to build some sort

of bridge for him and I to come too. I felt that he would come out

when he was ready to come out. Needless to say he slept under the

table.

 

It is now almost 8 years later, and this boy who is a good child an

soon to be a teenager, is still on these meds. His mother is still

going crazy, because now there is no drug that can seem to help him.

He was on Lithium about 3 years ago. That is crazy, a 10 year old

child on Litium! I strongly advised her to maybe think about atking

him off of these drugs and all I got in responce was, " Are you mad,

he will kill us if we take him off the drugs. " when I finally saw him

about 2 weeks ago, he seemed perfectly fine and I thought, " she did

it, she finally took him off the drugs! " So I asked, she proceeded to

tell me that he was not off the drugs he is on this formula of about

4 different types of drugs. That he was in fact " drugged out of his

mind " , now knowing this I was becomeing ill, I felt like this poor

child how can I help him in his time of desperate need!

 

So, here I am, looking for those cold hard facts, asking you to help

me find those cold hard facts. If you know where I can find them I

would be ever so indebted to you all.

 

I have told her that it is his drugs making him seem more angry, he

does have 5 counselors talking to him, and he is wrapped up in the

state of IL's drug therapy techniquies, one which I find very

unsettling. If you ask me he is over medicated and needs help getting

off these drugs, and the only way for this to happen is that I need

to get as much information in " cold hard facts " as I can to give to

his mother to convince her to do so for her son.

 

I think this child and family needs some good old'fashioned tough

love steps, but I could be completely wrong too... I send her every

email that I recieve from this forum that has to do with these harsh

drugs. If you could please help in the fight, all would greatly

appreciate it. I am very concerned to the facts that this child has

shown no effection to anyone, that he fights and hits on a regular

bases, that he has been kicked out of every school in his area, and

that this lovely child will soon hurt someone and not be able to

realize what it is that he has done and how these drugs have been the

culprit for the duration he has been on them.....

 

Please help me to help him!

 

Thank you,

Michele Collins

 

 

P.S. I am now a mother of twins, so she can't tellme that it is

because I am not a mother of twins an do not know the hardship

associated with this..... I have indee brought this fact up to

her.... she has yet to see my point!