Guest guest Posted June 27, 2004 Report Share Posted June 27, 2004 Hi everyone, I'm new here, just thought i'd say hi. My name is Jay and i live in Lincolnshire, UK. I have two Hackney Horses, and three dogs, and i'm currently studying politics at university! I do have a slight problem that i was wondering if anyone could help with... On tuesday i was given a 4 1/2 month old lurcher boy by a man saying that he " didn't get on " with this man's jack russel. On taking the dog (name - nut) to the vets for jab/chip i was told he was in there on tuesday afternoon with said man, and had been diagnosed with possible hip displasia due to coursing heavily from 2 months old. Hence the dog being thrown at me on tuesday evening, the guy just handed me the lead and off he went quick as possible ! Anyway, Nut is a bit stiff on his back legs after he's been lying down, and has trouble jumping up onto bed/sofa etc, but he does loosen up with a bit of walking, although i've been told not to excercise him too much. I just wondered, if anyone had come across this or something similar before in humans or animals, and could reccommend some herbal/alternative therapy that will help him through this. I'm feeding high protein dog biscuit(pro-plan) and he is on a daily dose of calcium for his bones, but any more advice would be greatly appreciated. He's a super little dog, really happy and fun and i don't want to see him in any pain. Best Wishes Jay Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2004 Report Share Posted June 27, 2004 --- Hello Jay, In my very humble opinion I would bin the 'pro' plan and feed nut a natural diet of 50% meat and 50% stale wholemeal bread - twice a day, bin the calcium and get some bone-meal from the vet, also give nut a cod liver oil capsule everyday and you could also chuck in a garlic oil capsule as well to keep the worms at bay. Regards - Ray. - Jay Sunday, June 27, 2004 7:48 AM new here(hi!) & dog help Hi everyone, I'm new here, just thought i'd say hi. My name is Jay and i live in Lincolnshire, UK. I have two Hackney Horses, and three dogs, and i'm currently studying politics at university! I do have a slight problem that i was wondering if anyone could help with... On tuesday i was given a 4 1/2 month old lurcher boy by a man saying that he " didn't get on " with this man's jack russel. On taking the dog (name - nut) to the vets for jab/chip i was told he was in there on tuesday afternoon with said man, and had been diagnosed with possible hip displasia due to coursing heavily from 2 months old. Hence the dog being thrown at me on tuesday evening, the guy just handed me the lead and off he went quick as possible ! Anyway, Nut is a bit stiff on his back legs after he's been lying down, and has trouble jumping up onto bed/sofa etc, but he does loosen up with a bit of walking, although i've been told not to excercise him too much. I just wondered, if anyone had come across this or something similar before in humans or animals, and could reccommend some herbal/alternative therapy that will help him through this. I'm feeding high protein dog biscuit(pro-plan) and he is on a daily dose of calcium for his bones, but any more advice would be greatly appreciated. He's a super little dog, really happy and fun and i don't want to see him in any pain. Best Wishes Jay Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2004 Report Share Posted June 27, 2004 Jay, If you search the web, there is information on alternative treatments for pets. There are some - I can't find any of my links right now, I never found a I particularly liked but they are there. Different species are different so don't assume what works for a human is safe for a pet when it comes to herbs, but dogs can certainly take the same vitamins and minerals that humans can. There are many pet supplements sold. They are flavored so to be taste pleasing to the animal. I found those worth buying to get my dogs to eat them without hassle. I also give them cod liver oil. I have retrievers who are genetically prone to hip displasia. If your dog does have that, you've got a serious problem difficult to solve and expensive to treat. Vets now do surgery. He very possibly can become lame and ultimately have to be put down. But since you got a " possible " , I would attack his diet and supplement to see what happens. Even my vet (now ex-vet) who freaked out when I told her I was feeding my dogs raw meat, recommends glucosamine for joint problems and arthritis. Pet food manufacturers run vet schools funding research and what is taught, etc., just as drug companies run medical schools. Be careful about being dupped that the more expensive dog foods are healthier. Most all the manufactured foods are high carbohydrate - corn is used in most and in many, the main ingredient. You got to read the labels. Canines in the wild are carnivores, they can handle less carbs than we can and are even more prone to diabetic problems today due to those manufactured foods. One of my dogs was diagnosed with arthritis and potassium deficiency - the vet tried to make issue that it probably was an enzyme deficiency. I researched into it and found bones the best source for potassium as well as the other minerals and nutrients important to bones and joints (makes sense). And I learned that all this stuff about not giving pets meat and bones is based on cooked food. Animals natural diet is raw, proteins change form when cooked, bones only become brittle when cooked. So raw bones got added and have become a mainstay of my dogs diet. I keep a bowl of dry processed food that has no corn in it but does have rice. I give them raw meat and bones including fresh chicken (mine do not like it after it has been frozen), liver and organs when I can get them, raw eggs. Their #1 preference is for the bones. And now there is no more potassium deficiency or arthritis problems. Mary - " Jay " <hally_hackney Sunday, June 27, 2004 1:48 AM new here(hi!) & dog help > Hi everyone, > > I'm new here, just thought i'd say hi. My name is Jay and i live in > Lincolnshire, UK. I have two Hackney Horses, and three dogs, and i'm > currently studying politics at university! > > I do have a slight problem that i was wondering if anyone could help > with... On tuesday i was given a 4 1/2 month old > lurcher boy by a man saying that he " didn't get on " with this man's > jack russel. On taking the dog (name - nut) to the vets for jab/chip > i was told he was in there on tuesday afternoon with said man, and > had been diagnosed with possible hip displasia due to coursing > heavily from 2 months old. Hence the dog being thrown at me on > tuesday evening, the guy just handed me the lead and off he went > quick as possible ! > > Anyway, Nut is a bit stiff on his back legs after he's been lying > down, and has trouble jumping up onto bed/sofa etc, but he does > loosen up with a bit of walking, although i've been told not to > excercise him too much. I just wondered, if anyone had come across > this or something similar before in humans or animals, and could > reccommend some herbal/alternative therapy that will help him through > this. I'm feeding high protein dog biscuit(pro-plan) and he is on a > daily dose of calcium for his bones, but any more advice would be > greatly appreciated. He's a super little dog, really happy and fun > and i don't want to see him in any pain. > > Best Wishes > > Jay > Jay > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2004 Report Share Posted June 27, 2004 Jay, Look on for " Rawpaws, " join and then search the archives for hip displasia (sp?). After that, ask any questions you have on their board and I think you'll be able to heal Nut and give him a long and healthy life. Claire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2004 Report Share Posted June 27, 2004 There is a called K9nutrition…you should think about checking it out, there is a world of information about dog health there. But for the hip dysplasia, I have heard sweet potatos can do wonders, along with of course glucosamine and chond, and MSM. With the sweet potatos, he would need about a table spoon or so a day mixed in with his food, you would boil them until soft, then just add it to the food. Check into that group though. Stacy I do have a slight problem that i was wondering if anyone could help with... On tuesday i was given a 4 1/2 month old lurcher boy by a man saying that he " didn't get on " with this man's jack russel. On taking the dog (name - nut) to the vets for jab/chip i was told he was in there on tuesday afternoon with said man, and had been diagnosed with possible hip displasia due to coursing heavily from 2 months old. Hence the dog being thrown at me on tuesday evening, the guy just handed me the lead and off he went quick as possible ! --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.711 / Virus Database: 467 - Release 6/25/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.711 / Virus Database: 467 - Release 6/25/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2004 Report Share Posted June 27, 2004 I don’t know about the wholemeal bread…what would that be for? And with saying 50% meat, that is kind of a broad statement, are you saying cooked? raw? Muscle meat? Organ meat? And if you are going to do that. As far as bone meal for calcium…crushed egg shells is cheaper and is the same…calcium. The oil and garlic capsules I totally agree with, I just didn’t understand why the grains? Jay, I would opt for a really good kibble with supplements already in it. But if you cant find the supplements already in them look for gluc and chon with MSM, omega fatty acids, and sweet potatoes. No kibble you could buy at the grocery store is good for a dog with HD, I buy mine at the pet supply store…Natural Balance is a really good one so is Canidae. No grocery store food and no Science Diet- vets get huge kickbacks for Science Diet, that is the only reason they push it. Stacy --- Hello Jay, In my very humble opinion I would bin the 'pro' plan and feed nut a natural diet of 50% meat and 50% stale wholemeal bread - twice a day, bin the calcium and get some bone-meal from the vet, also give nut a cod liver oil capsule everyday and you could also chuck in a garlic oil capsule as well to keep the worms at bay. Regards - Ray. I do have a slight problem that i was wondering if anyone could help with... On tuesday i was given a 4 1/2 month old lurcher boy by a man saying that he " didn't get on " with this man's jack russel. On taking the dog (name - nut) to the vets for jab/chip i was told he was in there on tuesday afternoon with said man, and had been diagnosed with possible hip displasia due to coursing heavily from 2 months old. Hence the dog being thrown at me on tuesday evening, the guy just handed me the lead and off he went quick as possible ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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