Big disease NGO's...American Cancer Society Employee Salaries......

[Guest guest]

David,

 

I did a search under " American Cancer Society Salaries " and came up

with quite a number of links. Salaries for ACS higher ups are not

made public! But here is some very revelatory stuff about the

organization:

 

http://www.rense.com/general9/cans.htm

http://www.preventcancer.com/losing/acs/acs_hoards.htm

http://www.corporations.org/cancer/boycottacs.html

 

I've said before that words are important and powerful. It makes

sense that the organization is called the " American Cancer Society "

instead of " American Cancer Prevention and Treatment Society. " Maybe

they should go whole hog and call themselves " American Cancer

Perpetuation Society " ?

 

Whenever I see someone wearing one of those " Race For The Cure " T-

shirts I want to ask him, " What in the world is the matter with you?

Open your eyes! " or at least to mention to him/her that we have lost

the war on cancer, and that mainstream cancer treatment does not

work. But those people are so brain-washed into thinking they did a

wonderful, humanitarian service by participating in " the race " that

my words are just wasted on them.

 

I have said before on this board that my father was a biochemist and

a pharmacologist who told me one time about mainstream efforts to

cure cancer, that " If your research is headed in an unfruitful

direction, it does not matter HOW MUCH money you pump into it; you're

not going to come up with the results you want. "

 

Regarding the American Cancer Society, a significant part of what is

being raised to " cure cancer " is not even going toward research, but

is, rather, ending up in ACS coffers and in ACS employees' pockets.

 

 

Elliot

 

, David Elfstrom

<listbox@e...> wrote:

> <http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?

type=healthNews & storyID=5429566>

>

> [comment from RedFlagsDaily.com below]

>

> Re: above article -- Is this the mother of health jokes? Is this

lofty

> health message being spewed out by organizations that are not only

obsolete

> but also now showing signs of institutional dementia?

>

> This is health advice for the Year 2004? Exercise more. Stay slim

or slim

> down. Eat plenty of fruits and vegetables. Do not smoke. Visit your

doctor.

> The American Heart Association, the American Cancer Society and the

> American Diabetes Association have teamed up to provide this

profound

> advice? How much will this really cost? And why are they wasting

money that

> could go to badly-needed alternative thinking about health? Why not

spend

> some of that money on better-targeted and new ideas about how

people can

> learn to stay healthy?

>

>

> Full article: [same old same old; Includes the party line that

things like

> PSA tests and mammograms save lives]

>

>

> Top U.S. Health Groups Team Up with Lifestyle Advice

> Tue Jun 15, 2004 02:45 PM ET

>

> By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Correspondent

> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Want to avoid a heart attack? How about a

stroke? Or

> is it cancer or diabetes you fear?

>

> The advice to avoid all of them is the same -- exercise more, stay

slim or

> slim down, eat plenty of fruits and vegetables, do not smoke and

visit your

> doctor.

>

> The American Heart Association, the American Cancer Society and the

> American Diabetes Association teamed up on Tuesday to deliver a

simple,

> clear message to the U.S. public and to doctors -- these top four

killers

> are all mostly caused by lifestyle.

>

> Many studies have indicated that up to two-thirds of all cases of

cancer

> are caused by smoking, poor diet, or a lack of exercise, as opposed

to

> unlucky genes or environmental chemicals.

>

> The three non-profit groups said it was time to stop competing for

> resources and to team up to battle diseases that account for nearly

two out

> of every three deaths in the United States.

>

> " Poor diet, excess body weight, physical inactivity and smoking are

> modifiable risk factors that contribute to the premature death of

close to

> 1.5 million Americans from cancer, diabetes, heart disease and

stroke each

> year, " said Dr. Augustus Grant, president of the American Heart

Association

> and a professor of medicine at Duke University Medical Center in

North

> Carolina.

>

> " There are 10,000 ways you can check out of this world, " added

American

> Cancer Society Chief Executive Officer John Seffrin. " But last year

90

> percent of all deaths in America were from 10 things, and 90

percent of

> that 90 percent was from 4 things -- heart disease, cancer, stroke

and

> diabetes. "

>

> Seffrin said despite hundreds of medical studies, media reports and

advice

> from health officials, Americans still had not got the message that

they

> can prevent most cases of chronic disease.

>

> " Well over 90 percent of people in America are born healthy and

then

> something goes wrong, " Seffrin told reporters in a telephone

briefing.

>

> " Here are four unambiguous things you can do to protect yourself

from

> yourself. "

>

> More than 60 percent of Americans are overweight or obese and the

majority

> do not get the recommended minimum 30 minutes of exercise on 5 or

more days

> of the week. Fewer than a quarter eat the recommended 5 servings of

fruits

> or vegetables a day and 23 percent still smoke.

>

> The groups also want to target public policymakers and doctors, who

> frequently fail to remind their patients about ways to stay healthy.

>

> Specific recommendations for everyone include getting blood

pressure and

> weight measured at least every two years starting at age 20.

Everyone

> should have a cholesterol test every five year starting at age 20

and blood

> sugar tests every three years starting at age 45.

>

> Everyone should also have colon cancer screening every one to 10

years

> starting at age 50, depending on risk.

>

> Women need to have clinical breast exams every three years at age

20 and

> every year once they are 40. Mammograms need to be done annually

starting

> at age 40 and Pap smears every one to three years.

>

> Men need to get prostate specific antigen tests and digital rectal

exams

> starting at age 50 to check for prostate cancer.

[Guest guest]

Dear Elliot,

 

If you will search the archives, you can find information how the

major " health " based charities act as shills for

Medico/Pharma/Chemical Inc. and how almost all of the money taken in

is to line the pockets of the people who run them or to act as PR

groups for the Big Buck Boys and those industries.

 

Frank

 

 

, " breathedeepnow "

<aug20@m...> wrote:

> David,

>

> I did a search under " American Cancer Society Salaries " and came up

> with quite a number of links. Salaries for ACS higher ups are not

> made public! But here is some very revelatory stuff about the

> organization:

>

> http://www.rense.com/general9/cans.htm

> http://www.preventcancer.com/losing/acs/acs_hoards.htm

> http://www.corporations.org/cancer/boycottacs.html

>

> I've said before that words are important and powerful. It makes

> sense that the organization is called the " American Cancer Society "

> instead of " American Cancer Prevention and Treatment Society. "

Maybe

> they should go whole hog and call themselves " American Cancer

> Perpetuation Society " ?

>

> Whenever I see someone wearing one of those " Race For The Cure " T-

> shirts I want to ask him, " What in the world is the matter with

you?

> Open your eyes! " or at least to mention to him/her that we have

lost

> the war on cancer, and that mainstream cancer treatment does not

> work. But those people are so brain-washed into thinking they did a

> wonderful, humanitarian service by participating in " the race " that

> my words are just wasted on them.

>

> I have said before on this board that my father was a biochemist

and

> a pharmacologist who told me one time about mainstream efforts to

> cure cancer, that " If your research is headed in an unfruitful

> direction, it does not matter HOW MUCH money you pump into it;

you're

> not going to come up with the results you want. "

>

> Regarding the American Cancer Society, a significant part of what

is

> being raised to " cure cancer " is not even going toward research,

but

> is, rather, ending up in ACS coffers and in ACS employees' pockets.

>

>

> Elliot

>

> , David Elfstrom

> <listbox@e...> wrote:

> > <http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?

> type=healthNews & storyID=5429566>

> >

> > [comment from RedFlagsDaily.com below]

> >

> > Re: above article -- Is this the mother of health jokes? Is this

> lofty

> > health message being spewed out by organizations that are not

only

> obsolete

> > but also now showing signs of institutional dementia?

> >

> > This is health advice for the Year 2004? Exercise more. Stay slim

> or slim

> > down. Eat plenty of fruits and vegetables. Do not smoke. Visit

your

> doctor.

> > The American Heart Association, the American Cancer Society and

the

> > American Diabetes Association have teamed up to provide this

> profound

> > advice? How much will this really cost? And why are they wasting

> money that

> > could go to badly-needed alternative thinking about health? Why

not

> spend

> > some of that money on better-targeted and new ideas about how

> people can

> > learn to stay healthy?

> >

> >

> > Full article: [same old same old; Includes the party line that

> things like

> > PSA tests and mammograms save lives]

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

FRank, back when I still had active lymphoma, I visited the " Fox

Chase Cancer Center " in Pennsylvania(I think it was Pennsylvania).

The lobby hallways are LINED with plaques from drug company donors to

that hospital.

 

God bless those few people who are able to see that they're on a

merry-go-round of Big Processed Food Producers, Big Hospitals, Big

Drug Companies, Big Insurance Companies, and to jump off of it!

 

Those who don't see, and who don't get off, end up in the

grinder/shredder at the center of the merry-go-round!

 

Elliot

 

 

 

, " califpacific "

<califpacific> wrote:

> Dear Elliot,

>

> If you will search the archives, you can find information how the

> major " health " based charities act as shills for

> Medico/Pharma/Chemical Inc. and how almost all of the money taken

in

> is to line the pockets of the people who run them or to act as PR

> groups for the Big Buck Boys and those industries.

>

> Frank

>

>

> , " breathedeepnow "

> <aug20@m...> wrote:

> > David,

> >

> > I did a search under " American Cancer Society Salaries " and came

up

> > with quite a number of links. Salaries for ACS higher ups are not

> > made public! But here is some very revelatory stuff about the

> > organization:

> >

> > http://www.rense.com/general9/cans.htm

> > http://www.preventcancer.com/losing/acs/acs_hoards.htm

> > http://www.corporations.org/cancer/boycottacs.html

> >

> > I've said before that words are important and powerful. It makes

> > sense that the organization is called the " American Cancer

Society "

> > instead of " American Cancer Prevention and Treatment Society. "

> Maybe

> > they should go whole hog and call themselves " American Cancer

> > Perpetuation Society " ?

> >

> > Whenever I see someone wearing one of those " Race For The Cure " T-

> > shirts I want to ask him, " What in the world is the matter with

> you?

> > Open your eyes! " or at least to mention to him/her that we have

> lost

> > the war on cancer, and that mainstream cancer treatment does not

> > work. But those people are so brain-washed into thinking they did

a

> > wonderful, humanitarian service by participating in " the race "

that

> > my words are just wasted on them.

> >

> > I have said before on this board that my father was a biochemist

> and

> > a pharmacologist who told me one time about mainstream efforts to

> > cure cancer, that " If your research is headed in an unfruitful

> > direction, it does not matter HOW MUCH money you pump into it;

> you're

> > not going to come up with the results you want. "

> >

> > Regarding the American Cancer Society, a significant part of what

> is

> > being raised to " cure cancer " is not even going toward research,

> but

> > is, rather, ending up in ACS coffers and in ACS employees'

pockets.

> >

> >

> > Elliot

> >

> > , David Elfstrom

> > <listbox@e...> wrote:

> > > <http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?

> > type=healthNews & storyID=5429566>

> > >

> > > [comment from RedFlagsDaily.com below]

> > >

> > > Re: above article -- Is this the mother of health jokes? Is

this

> > lofty

> > > health message being spewed out by organizations that are not

> only

> > obsolete

> > > but also now showing signs of institutional dementia?

> > >

> > > This is health advice for the Year 2004? Exercise more. Stay

slim

> > or slim

> > > down. Eat plenty of fruits and vegetables. Do not smoke. Visit

> your

> > doctor.

> > > The American Heart Association, the American Cancer Society and

> the

> > > American Diabetes Association have teamed up to provide this

> > profound

> > > advice? How much will this really cost? And why are they

wasting

> > money that

> > > could go to badly-needed alternative thinking about health? Why

> not

> > spend

> > > some of that money on better-targeted and new ideas about how

> > people can

> > > learn to stay healthy?

> > >

> > >

> > > Full article: [same old same old; Includes the party line that

> > things like

> > > PSA tests and mammograms save lives]

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

, " breathedeepnow "

<aug20@m...> wrote:

>

>

> God bless those few people who are able to see that they're on a

> merry-go-round of Big Processed Food Producers, Big Hospitals, Big

> Drug Companies, Big Insurance Companies, and to jump off of it!

>

Elliot,

 

We're human fodder to the 'bigs', if we allow ourselves to be. No

more, no more for me. The bigs can go f... themselves.

 

Noelene