HELP STOP SEN DURBINS AMENDMENT ON SUPPLEMENTS-Responses?

[Guest guest]

I know this has not been much of a forum for discussion and feedback,

but my goodness---this is an important issue, and we have around 1700

members. It would be nice to see some of us responding that we have

gone ahead and done what the post is asking us to do.

 

Thanks to all,

 

Elliot

 

 

, Frank

<califpacific> wrote:

>

>

> " ladyhawkblue2 "

> Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:02:14 -0000

> [sSRI-Research] PLEASE HELP STOP SEN DURBINS AMMENDMENT ON

SUPPLEMENTS

>

> PLEASE TAKE JUST A MINUTE AND GO TO THIS WEBSITE AND FILL IN A FORM

> LETTER TO OPPOSE THIS .

>

> http://www.healthactioncenter.com/action/index.asp?step=2 & item=19277

>

> Senator Durbin is atempting to attach an amendment requiring

adverse

> event reports and other restrictions to the Defense Budget bill

> today. This amendment will:

>

> *hold dietary supplements to a higher level of scrutiny than

> prescription drugs, over-the-counter drugs and food additives

> through a provision requiring adverse event reporting to HHS.

>

> *gut key elements of DSHEA and lead to reduced access to beneficial

> dietary supplements.

>

> URGENT ACTION REQUIRED!

> Contact your Senator and tell them to oppose this Amendment because:

> *this is an attempt to pass laws impacting the health of millions

of

> Americans by bypassing the regular legislative channels and the

> Health Committee where these issues belong.

> *this amendment has not had the proper consideration and is not

> germaine to the Defense Authorization Bill.

>

> *DSHEA gives the FDA ample authority to regulate dietary

supplements.

>

> Take 60 seconds to send a letter today urging your Senator to

oppose

> Senate Amendment 3225.

>

> And, due to the urgent nature of this issue, please take another

> minute to call your Senators directly and tell them to oppose

Senate

> Amendment 3225 in the Defense Authorization Bill.

>

> http://www.healthactioncenter.com/action/index.asp?step=2 & item=19277

 

[Guest guest]

Hello Elliot,

 

I have given up on most of the people who come here.

 

Most of them do not want to put any effort in most anything including

their own self education about their own medical issues and

solutions. Most just want to ask someone else to do it and then tell

them the secret " all natural alternative pill " to " cure " them. Oh and

they don't want it to interfere with all of the other prescription

stuff that they are taking. They just want something to fit in with

their current array of poisons and it be non harmfull and somehow counter the

side effects from their " meds " .

 

They want a forum to to post any stream of concious idea that comes

along, whether it is drug induced or not. But don't ask anything of

them of much substance. So, it is not to be expected that they

actually know anything, but don't restrict their right to say it.

 

They do not want to search and do research and share it with the

group. And heaven forbid, don't expect them to actually read a book.

 

No, the majority just want someone else to do it and be on call for

whatever they need to know and what pill do I take to cure

my_________. They want it all one way. For them, but don't expect or

ask anything of them. Now you know why I am strongly considering

making this a read only list.

 

When we hit around 500 members I considered limiting the membership

and group size, but didn't want to restrict the information to

people who were really sick.

 

So we have a large bunch of people who do not want to contribute much

whether in actions, help or even their own education but want everone

else to contribute to them.

 

Frank

 

 

, " breathedeepnow "

<aug20@m...> wrote:

> I know this has not been much of a forum for discussion and

feedback,

> but my goodness---this is an important issue, and we have around

1700

> members. It would be nice to see some of us responding that we have

> gone ahead and done what the post is asking us to do.

>

> Thanks to all,

>

> Elliot

>

>

> , Frank

> <califpacific> wrote:

> >

> >

> > " ladyhawkblue2 "

> > Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:02:14 -0000

> > [sSRI-Research] PLEASE HELP STOP SEN DURBINS AMMENDMENT

ON

> SUPPLEMENTS

> >

> > PLEASE TAKE JUST A MINUTE AND GO TO THIS WEBSITE AND FILL IN A

FORM

> > LETTER TO OPPOSE THIS .

> >

> > http://www.healthactioncenter.com/action/index.asp?

step=2 & item=19277

> >

> > Senator Durbin is atempting to attach an amendment requiring

> adverse

> > event reports and other restrictions to the Defense Budget bill

> > today. This amendment will:

> >

> > *hold dietary supplements to a higher level of scrutiny than

> > prescription drugs, over-the-counter drugs and food additives

> > through a provision requiring adverse event reporting to HHS.

> >

> > *gut key elements of DSHEA and lead to reduced access to

beneficial

> > dietary supplements.

> >

> > URGENT ACTION REQUIRED!

> > Contact your Senator and tell them to oppose this Amendment

because:

> > *this is an attempt to pass laws impacting the health of millions

> of

> > Americans by bypassing the regular legislative channels and the

> > Health Committee where these issues belong.

> > *this amendment has not had the proper consideration and is not

> > germaine to the Defense Authorization Bill.

> >

> > *DSHEA gives the FDA ample authority to regulate dietary

> supplements.

> >

> > Take 60 seconds to send a letter today urging your Senator to

> oppose

> > Senate Amendment 3225.

> >

> > And, due to the urgent nature of this issue, please take another

> > minute to call your Senators directly and tell them to oppose

> Senate

> > Amendment 3225 in the Defense Authorization Bill.

> >

> > http://www.healthactioncenter.com/action/index.asp?

step=2 & item=19277

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I live in Senator Durbin's home state -- Illinois -- and I have just sent my

3rd email to him and my other representatives opposing his legislation.

 

The first time was 6-8 months ago, and weeks later I got a form letter

response by snail mail from Durbin that really didn't address what I had

said. No other representative responded.

 

So I've tried to do my part, but I wonder if anyone in D.C. can hear me when

the pharma lobbyists have already got their ear.

 

LO

 

 

 

 

> I know this has not been much of a forum for discussion and feedback,

> but my goodness---this is an important issue, and we have around 1700

> members. It would be nice to see some of us responding that we have

> gone ahead and done what the post is asking us to do.

>

> Thanks to all,

>

> Elliot

>

>

> , Frank

> <califpacific> wrote:

> >

> >

> > " ladyhawkblue2 "

> > Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:02:14 -0000

> > [sSRI-Research] PLEASE HELP STOP SEN DURBINS AMMENDMENT ON

> SUPPLEMENTS

> >

> > PLEASE TAKE JUST A MINUTE AND GO TO THIS WEBSITE AND FILL IN A FORM

> > LETTER TO OPPOSE THIS .

> >

> > http://www.healthactioncenter.com/action/index.asp?step=2 & item=19277

> >

[Guest guest]

I did sign the petition....NG

 

 

-

" califpacific " <califpacific

 

Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:41 PM

Re: HELP STOP SEN DURBINS AMENDMENT ON

SUPPLEMENTS-Responses?

 

 

> Hello Elliot,

>

> I have given up on most of the people who come here.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Everyone,

 

I have to say that I find this site very valuable. Although I don't contribute

any information, I do sign all petitions and also contribute donations to the

alliance of natural health that's fighting the supplement act in the EU, and

also donate to Safe Harbor, and the wildlife refugee against Bush oil drilling

in Alaska. Many people help in their own way. If everyone would band together,

our voices would be heard. But EVERYONE has to make the effort in order to make

a difference.

Melody

 

califpacific <califpacific wrote:

Hello Elliot,

 

I have given up on most of the people who come here.

 

Most of them do not want to put any effort in most anything including

their own self education about their own medical issues and

solutions. Most just want to ask someone else to do it and then tell

them the secret " all natural alternative pill " to " cure " them. Oh and

they don't want it to interfere with all of the other prescription

stuff that they are taking. They just want something to fit in with

their current array of poisons and it be non harmfull and somehow counter the

side effects from their " meds " .

 

They want a forum to to post any stream of concious idea that comes

along, whether it is drug induced or not. But don't ask anything of

them of much substance. So, it is not to be expected that they

actually know anything, but don't restrict their right to say it.

 

They do not want to search and do research and share it with the

group. And heaven forbid, don't expect them to actually read a book.

 

No, the majority just want someone else to do it and be on call for

whatever they need to know and what pill do I take to cure

my_________. They want it all one way. For them, but don't expect or

ask anything of them. Now you know why I am strongly considering

making this a read only list.

 

When we hit around 500 members I considered limiting the membership

and group size, but didn't want to restrict the information to

people who were really sick.

 

So we have a large bunch of people who do not want to contribute much

whether in actions, help or even their own education but want everone

else to contribute to them.

 

Frank

 

 

, " breathedeepnow "

<aug20@m...> wrote:

> I know this has not been much of a forum for discussion and

feedback,

> but my goodness---this is an important issue, and we have around

1700

> members. It would be nice to see some of us responding that we have

> gone ahead and done what the post is asking us to do.

>

> Thanks to all,

>

> Elliot

>

>

[Guest guest]

'Lo, Brien!

 

Ahhh, what a shame to find out that the person responsible for this

idiotic bill is from Illinois, the state in which I make my home!

 

I have sent the same letter to Senator Durbin, now. I can't help but

think that Durbin and others who favor such a bill know the obvious

facts, which show that supplements are 99.99% harmless, but disregard

them because they are adhering to the agenda of Big Drug Companies,

the AMA et al.

 

Perhaps if we did not allow representatives to be elected year after

year, decade after decade, till they retired, they would not be able

to get so well-entrenched with special interest groups.

 

David Elfstrom said something about wishing us well with our

democratic efforts. It's not much of a democracy when our

representatives bow down to the Big Moneyed Interest Groups...

 

Elliot

 

, " lobrien " <lobrien@a...>

wrote:

> I live in Senator Durbin's home state -- Illinois -- and I have

just sent my

> 3rd email to him and my other representatives opposing his

legislation.

>

> The first time was 6-8 months ago, and weeks later I got a form

letter

> response by snail mail from Durbin that really didn't address what

I had

> said. No other representative responded.

>

> So I've tried to do my part, but I wonder if anyone in D.C. can

hear me when

> the pharma lobbyists have already got their ear.

>

> LO

>

>

>

>

> > I know this has not been much of a forum for discussion and

feedback,

> > but my goodness---this is an important issue, and we have around

1700

> > members. It would be nice to see some of us responding that we

have

> > gone ahead and done what the post is asking us to do.

> >

> > Thanks to all,

> >

> > Elliot

> >

> >

> > , Frank

> > <califpacific> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > " ladyhawkblue2 "

> > > Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:02:14 -0000

> > > [sSRI-Research] PLEASE HELP STOP SEN DURBINS

AMMENDMENT ON

> > SUPPLEMENTS

> > >

> > > PLEASE TAKE JUST A MINUTE AND GO TO THIS WEBSITE AND FILL IN A

FORM

> > > LETTER TO OPPOSE THIS .

> > >

> > > http://www.healthactioncenter.com/action/index.asp?

step=2 & item=19277

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Frank,

 

I can understand what may give you the impression that

people don't want to make the effort. Sometimes

impressions are misleading, though. I doubt anyone

would belong to this group unless they were serious

about learning. One's email box would overflow in a

few days of inattention.

My computer is one year old, so it's fairly fast. It

still takes a lot of time to go through the posts.

I think people are silent out of politeness, and also,

most people are silent by nature.Then you have others

who are new and confuse this group with others that

are more stream of consciousness.

Additionally,I can imagine that many doctors would

love to see you shut down this site. Bear in mind the

diversity of people writing to you. Unless one

experiences it personally, it's hard to imagine how

threatened some people are by the truth.

Others may come here sincerely looking for the truth

but find it all a little over their heads.

I appreciate the information your site has shared.

Because of it, I have made some significant

improvements in my lifestyle and I understand a great

deal more about my body.

More people are writing letters and taking action than

one will ever know. In fact, you can only imagine the

ripple effect of this website, but my guess is it is

enormous.

 

PS. I enjoy Elliot's comments, too.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

> Hi,

I have sent off several emails to the Senators of MN on this and

appreciate the letter posted today that states the risk of

prescriptions vs. supplements. Definitely " has teeth " . I will use

that in my next email. Thanks!

 

> , Frank

> <califpacific> wrote:

> >

> >

> > " ladyhawkblue2 "

> > Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:02:14 -0000

> > [sSRI-Research] PLEASE HELP STOP SEN DURBINS AMMENDMENT

ON

> SUPPLEMENTS

> >

> > PLEASE TAKE JUST A MINUTE AND GO TO THIS WEBSITE AND FILL IN A

FORM

> > LETTER TO OPPOSE THIS .

> >

> > http://www.healthactioncenter.com/action/index.asp?

step=2 & item=19277

> >

> > Senator Durbin is atempting to attach an amendment requiring

> adverse

> > event reports and other restrictions to the Defense Budget bill

> > today. This amendment will:

> >

> > *hold dietary supplements to a higher level of scrutiny than

> > prescription drugs, over-the-counter drugs and food additives

> > through a provision requiring adverse event reporting to HHS.

> >

> > *gut key elements of DSHEA and lead to reduced access to

beneficial

> > dietary supplements.

> >

> > URGENT ACTION REQUIRED!

> > Contact your Senator and tell them to oppose this Amendment

because:

> > *this is an attempt to pass laws impacting the health of millions

> of

> > Americans by bypassing the regular legislative channels and the

> > Health Committee where these issues belong.

> > *this amendment has not had the proper consideration and is not

> > germaine to the Defense Authorization Bill.

> >

> > *DSHEA gives the FDA ample authority to regulate dietary

> supplements.

> >

> > Take 60 seconds to send a letter today urging your Senator to

> oppose

> > Senate Amendment 3225.

> >

> > And, due to the urgent nature of this issue, please take another

> > minute to call your Senators directly and tell them to oppose

> Senate

> > Amendment 3225 in the Defense Authorization Bill.

> >

> > http://www.healthactioncenter.com/action/index.asp?

step=2 & item=19277

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >