Obesity---the Dis-Ease No One Wants To Call A Dis-ease....

[Guest guest]

A real problem, at least where I live---in rural Illinois---is that

as long as an obese person is able to wake up in the morning, go to

work, eat, speak and otherwise behave normally, they do not believe

they are dis-eased. They may admit they are " too heavy, " and that

they " could stand to lose some weight, " but they do not view

themselves as dis-eased, nor do their families, friends and fellow

employees.

 

They ARE unquestionably dis-eased, in the most logical sense of the

word. Their whole system is dis-eased, or NOT AT EASE, because of the

tremendous stress the heart, skin,lungs, lymph system, liver, kidneys

and other organs are under just to perform their necessary functions.

Just as a car engine whose performance is consistently pushed to its

upper limit will ultimately break down, so will an obese person's

body.

 

Out here in Illinois, no one calls even a monstrously obese

person " obese; " instead, they use terms such as " heavy, " " heavy-

set, " " stocky, " chunky " and " large. " Should we call people with

diabetes something else, like maybe, " That person is " sweet, "

or " sugary? " Or should we say that people with cancer are " cellularly

challenged " or " fast growers " ?

 

Should people with diabetes or cancer feel insulted when they are

referred to as having diabetes or cancer? Should people with diabetes

or cancer form societies that encourage people to support and to take

pride in those dis-eases? I am not suggesting people who are obese

should go about feeling ashamed of themselves. I must say, though,

that I don't think it good for the image of this country that while

great numbers of people in countries around the world don't know

where their next meal is coming from, great numbers of people in this

country don't know when to stop eating.

 

If obesity is a dis-ease, and there are mountains of evidence showing

that it is, can we not just get real and call it like it is? Doing so

might encourage more of those people who now just believe they

are " heavy, " or " heavy-set " or " stocky " , " chunky " or " large " to take

action and lose weight before their dis-ease turns into something

even more serious.

 

Elliot

[Guest guest]

Elliot--

 

I disagree with your perception of our (obese persons) perceptions of

our health. Most doctors have talked to me frankly about my weight,

and several have used the term " obese. " You are talking about social

discussion of a person's weight, which is a complicated and delicate

matter because society makes it such. The fact that the word " obese "

is avoided in social situations does not indicate that it is avoided

in medical consultations.

 

Catherine

 

, " breathedeepnow "

<aug20@m...> wrote:

> A real problem, at least where I live---in rural Illinois---is that

> as long as an obese person is able to wake up in the morning, go to

> work, eat, speak and otherwise behave normally, they do not believe

> they are dis-eased. They may admit they are " too heavy, " and that

> they " could stand to lose some weight, " but they do not view

> themselves as dis-eased, nor do their families, friends and fellow

> employees.

>

> They ARE unquestionably dis-eased, in the most logical sense of the

> word. Their whole system is dis-eased, or NOT AT EASE, because of

the

> tremendous stress the heart, skin,lungs, lymph system, liver,

kidneys

> and other organs are under just to perform their necessary

functions.

> Just as a car engine whose performance is consistently pushed to

its

> upper limit will ultimately break down, so will an obese person's

> body.

>

> Out here in Illinois, no one calls even a monstrously obese

> person " obese; " instead, they use terms such as " heavy, " " heavy-

> set, " " stocky, " chunky " and " large. " Should we call people with

> diabetes something else, like maybe, " That person is " sweet, "

> or " sugary? " Or should we say that people with cancer

are " cellularly

> challenged " or " fast growers " ?

>

> Should people with diabetes or cancer feel insulted when they are

> referred to as having diabetes or cancer? Should people with

diabetes

> or cancer form societies that encourage people to support and to

take

> pride in those dis-eases? I am not suggesting people who are obese

> should go about feeling ashamed of themselves. I must say, though,

> that I don't think it good for the image of this country that while

> great numbers of people in countries around the world don't know

> where their next meal is coming from, great numbers of people in

this

> country don't know when to stop eating.

>

> If obesity is a dis-ease, and there are mountains of evidence

showing

> that it is, can we not just get real and call it like it is? Doing

so

> might encourage more of those people who now just believe they

> are " heavy, " or " heavy-set " or " stocky " , " chunky " or " large " to

take

> action and lose weight before their dis-ease turns into something

> even more serious.

>

> Elliot

[Guest guest]

Dear Cathy,

 

You say " our " (obese persons) perceptions. I did take care to say " A

real problem, at least where I live---in rural Illinois "

 

I was not talking about all obese people. The very fact that you are

on an Alternative Medicine board means to me that your perceptions

are very different from many of the people I see in WalMart here in

central Illinois.

 

This reads rather double-talkedy to me:

 

" You are talking about social discussion of a person's weight, which

is a complicated and delicate matter because society makes it such.

The fact that the word " obese " is avoided in social situations does

not indicate that it is avoided in medical consultations. "

 

I am in fact saying that society has not done anyone any favors

by " making it such. "

 

I regret if what I have said sounded harsh. I think it is harsher

to " euphemize " the dis-eased condition of obesity, such that society

produces more and more obese individuals, many of whom are doomed to

great suffering once they pass middle age.

 

Elliot

 

 

 

, " ucccathy "

<ucccathy> wrote:

> Elliot--

>

> I disagree with your perception of our (obese persons) perceptions

of

> our health. Most doctors have talked to me frankly about my weight,

> and several have used the term " obese. " You are talking about

social

> discussion of a person's weight, which is a complicated and

delicate

> matter because society makes it such. The fact that the

word " obese "

> is avoided in social situations does not indicate that it is

avoided

> in medical consultations.

>

> Catherine

>

> , " breathedeepnow "

> <aug20@m...> wrote:

> > A real problem, at least where I live---in rural Illinois---is

that

> > as long as an obese person is able to wake up in the morning, go

to

> > work, eat, speak and otherwise behave normally, they do not

believe

> > they are dis-eased. They may admit they are " too heavy, " and that

> > they " could stand to lose some weight, " but they do not view

> > themselves as dis-eased, nor do their families, friends and

fellow

> > employees.

> >

> > They ARE unquestionably dis-eased, in the most logical sense of

the

> > word. Their whole system is dis-eased, or NOT AT EASE, because of

> the

> > tremendous stress the heart, skin,lungs, lymph system, liver,

> kidneys

> > and other organs are under just to perform their necessary

> functions.

> > Just as a car engine whose performance is consistently pushed to

> its

> > upper limit will ultimately break down, so will an obese person's

> > body.

> >

> > Out here in Illinois, no one calls even a monstrously obese

> > person " obese; " instead, they use terms such as " heavy, " " heavy-

> > set, " " stocky, " chunky " and " large. " Should we call people with

> > diabetes something else, like maybe, " That person is " sweet, "

> > or " sugary? " Or should we say that people with cancer

> are " cellularly

> > challenged " or " fast growers " ?

> >

> > Should people with diabetes or cancer feel insulted when they are

> > referred to as having diabetes or cancer? Should people with

> diabetes

> > or cancer form societies that encourage people to support and to

> take

> > pride in those dis-eases? I am not suggesting people who are

obese

> > should go about feeling ashamed of themselves. I must say,

though,

> > that I don't think it good for the image of this country that

while

> > great numbers of people in countries around the world don't know

> > where their next meal is coming from, great numbers of people in

> this

> > country don't know when to stop eating.

> >

> > If obesity is a dis-ease, and there are mountains of evidence

> showing

> > that it is, can we not just get real and call it like it is?

Doing

> so

> > might encourage more of those people who now just believe they

> > are " heavy, " or " heavy-set " or " stocky " , " chunky " or " large " to

> take

> > action and lose weight before their dis-ease turns into something

> > even more serious.

> >

> > Elliot

[Guest guest]

Elliot--

 

Let me try it this way: My doctors talk to me about my weight, and

some use the word " obese. " All address the medical issues and try to

address solutions. I assume the same is done by doctors in Illinois.

I have not met anyone around here who is unaware that obesity is a

life-threatening condition. I assume the same is true in Illinois.

 

Our society's values make weight a different sort of issue, one that

is connected with a false but nevertheless powerful assessment of a

person's worth. This is especially true for women. Therefore, it

becomes difficult to talk to a friend or family member about obesity.

 

I think you are confusing society's discomfort with discussion of the

topic with avoidance of the reality by the obese person. I think that

obese persons know we are in trouble medically and why. It is not the

same as an alcholic saying " I am not an alcoholic. " I know active

(i.e., still drinking) alcoholics who have done that successfully and

convincingly for years. They surround themselves with friends who

agree that they are not alcoholics. An obese person may be

uncomfortable about discussing his or her obesity, but the person is

not denying that it exists. Look at the body language of " cup

holder. " If anything, the cup points out that she knows she is fat.

 

Just my 2 cents.

 

Cathy

 

, " breathedeepnow "

<aug20@m...> wrote:

> Dear Cathy,

>

> You say " our " (obese persons) perceptions. I did take care to say " A

> real problem, at least where I live---in rural Illinois "

>

> I was not talking about all obese people. The very fact that you

are

> on an Alternative Medicine board means to me that your perceptions

> are very different from many of the people I see in WalMart here in

> central Illinois.

>

> This reads rather double-talkedy to me:

>

> " You are talking about social discussion of a person's weight,

which

> is a complicated and delicate matter because society makes it such.

> The fact that the word " obese " is avoided in social situations does

> not indicate that it is avoided in medical consultations. "

>

> I am in fact saying that society has not done anyone any favors

> by " making it such. "

>

> I regret if what I have said sounded harsh. I think it is harsher

> to " euphemize " the dis-eased condition of obesity, such that

society

> produces more and more obese individuals, many of whom are doomed

to

> great suffering once they pass middle age.

>

> Elliot

>

>

>

> , " ucccathy "

> <ucccathy> wrote:

> > Elliot--

> >

> > I disagree with your perception of our (obese persons)

perceptions

> of

> > our health. Most doctors have talked to me frankly about my

weight,

> > and several have used the term " obese. " You are talking about

> social

> > discussion of a person's weight, which is a complicated and

> delicate

> > matter because society makes it such. The fact that the

> word " obese "

> > is avoided in social situations does not indicate that it is

> avoided

> > in medical consultations.

> >

> > Catherine

> >

> > --- In

, " breathedeepnow "

> > <aug20@m...> wrote:

> > > A real problem, at least where I live---in rural Illinois---is

> that

> > > as long as an obese person is able to wake up in the morning,

go

> to

> > > work, eat, speak and otherwise behave normally, they do not

> believe

> > > they are dis-eased. They may admit they are " too heavy, " and

that

> > > they " could stand to lose some weight, " but they do not view

> > > themselves as dis-eased, nor do their families, friends and

> fellow

> > > employees.

> > >

> > > They ARE unquestionably dis-eased, in the most logical sense of

> the

> > > word. Their whole system is dis-eased, or NOT AT EASE, because

of

> > the

> > > tremendous stress the heart, skin,lungs, lymph system, liver,

> > kidneys

> > > and other organs are under just to perform their necessary

> > functions.

> > > Just as a car engine whose performance is consistently pushed

to

> > its

> > > upper limit will ultimately break down, so will an obese

person's

> > > body.

> > >

> > > Out here in Illinois, no one calls even a monstrously obese

> > > person " obese; " instead, they use terms such as " heavy, " " heavy-

> > > set, " " stocky, " chunky " and " large. " Should we call people with

> > > diabetes something else, like maybe, " That person is " sweet, "

> > > or " sugary? " Or should we say that people with cancer

> > are " cellularly

> > > challenged " or " fast growers " ?

> > >

> > > Should people with diabetes or cancer feel insulted when they

are

> > > referred to as having diabetes or cancer? Should people with

> > diabetes

> > > or cancer form societies that encourage people to support and

to

> > take

> > > pride in those dis-eases? I am not suggesting people who are

> obese

> > > should go about feeling ashamed of themselves. I must say,

> though,

> > > that I don't think it good for the image of this country that

> while

> > > great numbers of people in countries around the world don't

know

> > > where their next meal is coming from, great numbers of people

in

> > this

> > > country don't know when to stop eating.

> > >

> > > If obesity is a dis-ease, and there are mountains of evidence

> > showing

> > > that it is, can we not just get real and call it like it is?

> Doing

> > so

> > > might encourage more of those people who now just believe they

> > > are " heavy, " or " heavy-set " or " stocky " , " chunky " or " large " to

> > take

> > > action and lose weight before their dis-ease turns into

something

> > > even more serious.

> > >

> > > Elliot

[Guest guest]

I am sorry, Cathy. I simply do NOT see obesity being called and

treated like the very serious dis-ease it is. And yes, I am saying

there are lots of people out this way who do not appear to know or to

care that obesity is a life-threatening condition.

 

The difference is that if a person comes to a doctor who diagnoses

him with cancer or heart dis-ease, the doctor suggests IMMEDIATE

action. But if an obese person comes to his office, and I am not

talking 400 pounds here---I am talking just obese---like 20% over

proper weight, let's say, many doctors either don't say anything, or

just give a mild, friendly reprimand or suggestion because THEY, TOO

are cowed by the way obesity is talked and lived around in this

country.

 

If obesity is all that life-threatening, and I think it is, then I

believe it should be taken more seriously than it is. If it were,

it's possible " cup holder " would never have gotten to where she

weighs in at probably 400 pounds. She might at least have stopped at

200.

 

Best wishes,

 

Elliot

 

 

oIn , " ucccathy "

<ucccathy> wrote:

> Elliot--

>

> Let me try it this way: My doctors talk to me about my weight, and

> some use the word " obese. " All address the medical issues and try

to

> address solutions. I assume the same is done by doctors in

Illinois.

> I have not met anyone around here who is unaware that obesity is a

> life-threatening condition. I assume the same is true in Illinois.

>

> Our society's values make weight a different sort of issue, one

that

> is connected with a false but nevertheless powerful assessment of a

> person's worth. This is especially true for women. Therefore, it

> becomes difficult to talk to a friend or family member about

obesity.

>

> I think you are confusing society's discomfort with discussion of

the

> topic with avoidance of the reality by the obese person. I think

that

> obese persons know we are in trouble medically and why. It is not

the

> same as an alcholic saying " I am not an alcoholic. " I know active

> (i.e., still drinking) alcoholics who have done that successfully

and

> convincingly for years. They surround themselves with friends who

> agree that they are not alcoholics. An obese person may be

> uncomfortable about discussing his or her obesity, but the person

is

> not denying that it exists. Look at the body language of " cup

> holder. " If anything, the cup points out that she knows she is fat.

>

> Just my 2 cents.

>

> Cathy

>

> , " breathedeepnow "

> <aug20@m...> wrote:

> > Dear Cathy,

> >

> > You say " our " (obese persons) perceptions. I did take care to

say " A

> > real problem, at least where I live---in rural Illinois "

> >

> > I was not talking about all obese people. The very fact that you

> are

> > on an Alternative Medicine board means to me that your

perceptions

> > are very different from many of the people I see in WalMart here

in

> > central Illinois.

> >

> > This reads rather double-talkedy to me:

> >

> > " You are talking about social discussion of a person's weight,

> which

> > is a complicated and delicate matter because society makes it

such.

> > The fact that the word " obese " is avoided in social situations

does

> > not indicate that it is avoided in medical consultations. "

> >

> > I am in fact saying that society has not done anyone any favors

> > by " making it such. "

> >

> > I regret if what I have said sounded harsh. I think it is harsher

> > to " euphemize " the dis-eased condition of obesity, such that

> society

> > produces more and more obese individuals, many of whom are doomed

> to

> > great suffering once they pass middle age.

> >

> > Elliot

> >

> >

> >

> > , " ucccathy "

> > <ucccathy> wrote:

> > > Elliot--

> > >

> > > I disagree with your perception of our (obese persons)

> perceptions

> > of

> > > our health. Most doctors have talked to me frankly about my

> weight,

> > > and several have used the term " obese. " You are talking about

> > social

> > > discussion of a person's weight, which is a complicated and

> > delicate

> > > matter because society makes it such. The fact that the

> > word " obese "

> > > is avoided in social situations does not indicate that it is

> > avoided

> > > in medical consultations.

> > >

> > > Catherine

> > >

> > > --- In

> , " breathedeepnow "

> > > <aug20@m...> wrote:

> > > > A real problem, at least where I live---in rural Illinois---

is

> > that

> > > > as long as an obese person is able to wake up in the morning,

> go

> > to

> > > > work, eat, speak and otherwise behave normally, they do not

> > believe

> > > > they are dis-eased. They may admit they are " too heavy, " and

> that

> > > > they " could stand to lose some weight, " but they do not view

> > > > themselves as dis-eased, nor do their families, friends and

> > fellow

> > > > employees.

> > > >

> > > > They ARE unquestionably dis-eased, in the most logical sense

of

> > the

> > > > word. Their whole system is dis-eased, or NOT AT EASE,

because

> of

> > > the

> > > > tremendous stress the heart, skin,lungs, lymph system, liver,

> > > kidneys

> > > > and other organs are under just to perform their necessary

> > > functions.

> > > > Just as a car engine whose performance is consistently pushed

> to

> > > its

> > > > upper limit will ultimately break down, so will an obese

> person's

> > > > body.

> > > >

> > > > Out here in Illinois, no one calls even a monstrously obese

> > > > person " obese; " instead, they use terms such

as " heavy, " " heavy-

> > > > set, " " stocky, " chunky " and " large. " Should we call people

with

> > > > diabetes something else, like maybe, " That person is " sweet, "

> > > > or " sugary? " Or should we say that people with cancer

> > > are " cellularly

> > > > challenged " or " fast growers " ?

> > > >

> > > > Should people with diabetes or cancer feel insulted when they

> are

> > > > referred to as having diabetes or cancer? Should people with

> > > diabetes

> > > > or cancer form societies that encourage people to support and

> to

> > > take

> > > > pride in those dis-eases? I am not suggesting people who are

> > obese

> > > > should go about feeling ashamed of themselves. I must say,

> > though,

> > > > that I don't think it good for the image of this country that

> > while

> > > > great numbers of people in countries around the world don't

> know

> > > > where their next meal is coming from, great numbers of people

> in

> > > this

> > > > country don't know when to stop eating.

> > > >

> > > > If obesity is a dis-ease, and there are mountains of evidence

> > > showing

> > > > that it is, can we not just get real and call it like it is?

> > Doing

> > > so

> > > > might encourage more of those people who now just believe

they

> > > > are " heavy, " or " heavy-set " or " stocky " , " chunky " or " large "

to

> > > take

> > > > action and lose weight before their dis-ease turns into

> something

> > > > even more serious.

> > > >

> > > > Elliot

[Guest guest]

, " breathedeepnow "

<aug20@m...> wrote:

> A real problem, at least where I live---in rural Illinois---is

that > as long as an obese person is able to wake up in the morning,

go to > work, eat, speak and otherwise behave normally, they do not

believe > they are dis-eased. They may admit they are " too heavy, "

and that > they " could stand to lose some weight, " but they do not

view > themselves as dis-eased, nor do their families, friends and

fellow > employees.

>

> They ARE unquestionably dis-eased, in the most logical sense of

the > word. Their whole system is dis-eased, or NOT AT EASE, because

of the > tremendous stress the heart, skin,lungs, lymph system,

liver, kidneys > and other organs are under just to perform their

necessary functions.

 

---Elliott

 

With all due respect may I ask you a question? If obesity is not a

dis-ease, then why are there specific drugs currently on the market

formulated especially to CURE it?

The dis-ease labels come from big PHARMA, we all know that!.

Whenever a new illness comes on the scene, they get another name and

slap a label on it, as soon as they find a new drug that suits their

purpose, that is.

 

If the pharmaceuticals have formulated drugs for obesity, you'd

better believe that obesity is considered to be a dis-ease!!

Additionally, we all know that being overweight,obese,…or whatever

label you care to put on it...

the condition itself exacerbates and worsens numerous other dis-

eases.

 

Do we actually think that these people WISH to be this way? They

are caught in the trap...this didn't happen overnight, I think we

all know that. If we're going to place any blame it ought to be

placed squarely on the shoulders of the grocery manufacturers of

America. They are spreading the poisons around the world. Our Super

markets are full of SUPER GARBAGE (hydrogenated fats, refined sugars

and other things) that are not fit for human consumption and promote

obesity and people, largely from ignorance, unwittingly eat them.

The poisons line every store shelf, not to mention the fast food

outlets as well.

Its a setup, all neatly put in place by people who know that this

stuff promotes obesity and ill-health...causes heart attacks,

strokes, diabetes, arthritis, chronic fatigue, lupus,

MS, epilepsy, ADHD, ADD, allergies, etc...

These people are here because they have an innate desire to find a

better way.

 

We are simply the victims the way I see it and in order to reverse

this trend and lose any weight one has to break away from the whole

entire sick scenario and find their own options, which is NOT at all

easy!.

Additionally, now there are genetically engineered foods to watch

out for as well! These foods bring with them an entire new set of

problems...among them food allergies, indigestion and more obesity!!

 

Instead of placing the blame upon the individual, we need to look at

the whole picture. Why are so many sick and dying, why are so many

obese? We're all here seeking more and better answers.

 

These people are here because they are seeking a better way. Lets

not add to their problems. We need to look at the whole picture and

HELP them.

 

 

Just my two cents.

Penny

 

> , " ucccathy "

> <ucccathy> wrote:

You are talking about

> social > > discussion of a person's weight, which is a complicated

and delicate

[Guest guest]

Well, your perspective is food for thought. It is true that I have

only my own doctors as a point of reference.

 

Cathy

 

, " breathedeepnow "

<aug20@m...> wrote:

> I am sorry, Cathy. I simply do NOT see obesity being called and

> treated like the very serious dis-ease it is. And yes, I am saying

> there are lots of people out this way who do not appear to know or

to

> care that obesity is a life-threatening condition.

>

> The difference is that if a person comes to a doctor who diagnoses

> him with cancer or heart dis-ease, the doctor suggests IMMEDIATE

> action. But if an obese person comes to his office, and I am not

> talking 400 pounds here---I am talking just obese---like 20% over

> proper weight, let's say, many doctors either don't say anything,

or

> just give a mild, friendly reprimand or suggestion because THEY,

TOO

> are cowed by the way obesity is talked and lived around in this

> country.

>

> If obesity is all that life-threatening, and I think it is, then I

> believe it should be taken more seriously than it is. If it were,

> it's possible " cup holder " would never have gotten to where she

> weighs in at probably 400 pounds. She might at least have stopped

at

> 200.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Elliot

>

>

[Guest guest]

, " Penny "

<soupsnsalads> wrote:

> , " breathedeepnow "

> <aug20@m...> wrote:

> > A real problem, at least where I live---in rural Illinois---is

> that > as long as an obese person is able to wake up in the

morning,

> go to > work, eat, speak and otherwise behave normally, they do not

> believe > they are dis-eased. They may admit they are " too heavy, "

> and that > they " could stand to lose some weight, " but they do not

> view > themselves as dis-eased, nor do their families, friends and

> fellow > employees.

> >

> > They ARE unquestionably dis-eased, in the most logical sense of

> the > word. Their whole system is dis-eased, or NOT AT EASE,

because

> of the > tremendous stress the heart, skin,lungs, lymph system,

> liver, kidneys > and other organs are under just to perform their

> necessary functions.

>

> ---Elliott

>

> " With all due respect may I ask you a question? If obesity is not a

> dis-ease, then why are there specific drugs currently on the market

> formulated especially to CURE it? "

 

I am sorry that you misunderstood. I am saying it IS a dis-ease, and

I am saying that society and also many doctors have not referred to

is as such. Perhaps now that it has reached alarming and epidemic

proportions, doctors and drug companies are beginning to call it a

dis-ease.

 

 

" The dis-ease labels come from big PHARMA, we all know that!.

Whenever a new illness comes on the scene, they get another name and

slap a label on it, as soon as they find a new drug that suits their

purpose, that is. "

 

That rings pretty much true.

>

> If the pharmaceuticals have formulated drugs for obesity, you'd

> better believe that obesity is considered to be a dis-ease!!

 

Again, you misunderstand me.

 

 

> Additionally, we all know that being overweight,obese,…or whatever

> label you care to put on it...

> the condition itself exacerbates and worsens numerous other dis-

> eases.

>

> " Do we actually think that these people WISH to be this way? They

> are caught in the trap...this didn't happen overnight, I think we

> all know that. If we're going to place any blame it ought to be

> placed squarely on the shoulders of the grocery manufacturers of

> America. They are spreading the poisons around the world. Our Super

> markets are full of SUPER GARBAGE (hydrogenated fats, refined

sugars

> and other things) that are not fit for human consumption and

promote

> obesity and people, largely from ignorance, unwittingly eat them. "

 

I am sorry, Penny, but this is going WAY TOO FAR. It is impossible to

swallow with an intelligent and clear conscience. Penny, if I am 170

pounds and 6 ft tall, and several months later I find that I am 190

pounds, then a few months later, 210 pounds, SHOULD I NOT BE ABLE TO

SAY TO MYSELF: " HEY! I GAINED 40 POUNDS OVER THE LAST 6 MONTHS! I

NEED TO TAKE MYSELF IN HAND OR I AM GOING TO TURN INTO A WHALE! "

 

What in the world do you suppose you mean that " the blame ought to be

placed squarely on the shoulders of the grocery manufacturers of

America? " Are they force-feeding us or something? Is there NO blame

and NO responsibility to be placed on people themselves to monitor

their OWN weight? Just when is a person supposed to begin to realize

he is getting too heavy? Where in the world had PERSONAL

RESPONSIBILITY gone?

 

 

> The poisons line every store shelf, not to mention the fast food

> outlets as well.

> Its a setup, all neatly put in place by people who know that this

> stuff promotes obesity and ill-health...causes heart attacks,

> strokes, diabetes, arthritis, chronic fatigue, lupus,

> MS, epilepsy, ADHD, ADD, allergies, etc...

> These people are here because they have an innate desire to find a

> better way.

>

> " We are simply the victims the way I see it and in order to

reverse

> this trend and lose any weight one has to break away from the whole

> entire sick scenario and find their own options, which is NOT at

all

> easy!. "

 

" We are simply the victims " completely abdicates any responsibility

for oneself at all. IT IS EASY AS PIE to take action against weight

gain. STOP EATING so much pie and other food, and start exercising.

 

I agree that there are mountains of trashy, fatty, sugary, processed

food in the grocery stores. I do NOT agree that we are " all victims "

and that " the blame rests squarely on the shoulders of grocery

manufacturers. " We have BRAINS, we have CONSCIENCES. We have WILLS of

our own.

 

If, as you yourself say, " Do we actually think that these people WISH

to be this way? " then I ask, once a person is 20 or 30 or 50 pounds

OVER his proper, normal weight, do you not suppose it is HIS

responsibility to decide he has gone far enough, and at least to stop

there, and start to whittle things down?

 

Do you think it is fair, proper and logical that a person run his

weight up to 350 pounds, then go whining to a lawyer that " McDonald's

did this to me, " that " I am a victim of fast food and grocery

manufacturers, and they owe me? "

 

I don't think so.

 

When I got to be 192 pounds a couple decades ago, and had a 30 pound

gut, I said to myself " enough is enough. " I went to a dietician, who

said, " When you eat meat, make it more of a condiment, and if you

need to " pig out, " pig out on vegetables. And get regular exercise

about 20 to 30 minutes a day. I did what she said, and in about 5

months, I was back to 165 pounds.

 

I did not allow myself to balloon up to 200, 220, 240, 300 pounds and

to complain about being " victimized. "

 

Best wishes,

 

Elliot