Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 Hi Group, This was sent in by a member. Most of us have seen these type studies and press publicity releases which make all the major news. We know that they are a continuing phoney effort to disparage vitamins and to keep most people vulnerable and sick. All in an effort to sell more poisons which will make you more sick, but keep coming back. This has been going on for about 75 years now with not a peep from any US government agency. But let anything be said in favor of a nutrient curing anything and the government storm troopers will be there in quick order to " protect the people " . Since when is the pharmacutical and allopathic medicine industries the people. I have seen blurbs where Vitamin E causes heart disease and all kid of other stuff and vitamin C causes all kinds of disease. Anyone who does that or are the money and power behind these type of misleading " information " are definately not interested in us having good health. They are not your friends. And you best stop thinking of them in any way but what they are. Enemies to your health. In the final analysis, you better change to a better class of leaders if you wish to have any rights to health. Frank Message Hi, here is my contribution to what's happening. Any guesses as to who paid for the study? Nora G - 'Nora Gottlieb' Wednesday, May 05, 2004 7:24 AM FW: Vitamins 'increase cholesterol' Source: BBC News http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3673365.stm Vitamins 'increase cholesterol' Vitamins could actually increase levels of " bad cholesterol " , researchers have suggested. It had been thought that vitamins could protect the heart. But New York University researchers found vitamins including E, C and beta carotene stop the liver breaking down an early form of bad cholesterol. Writing in the Journal of Clinical Investigation, the researchers say their findings mean they cannot recommend that people use the vitamins. Most research tends to suggest that supplementation with antioxidant vitamins, although not beneficial, does not lead to undue harm Belinda Linden, British Heart Foundation The vitamins are antioxidants, thought to be beneficial because they attack free radicals, produced when the body fights infection, which inflict damage on the body's tissues. But studies carried out by the researchers at the university's school of medicine found that antioxidants actually hampered the body's fight against damaging cholesterol. Normally, liver cells break down a key protein in harmful lipoproteins such as VLDL (very low density lipoprotein) which means they cannot be converted into a form of LDL that can enter the bloodstream. However, in laboratory tests, the New York researchers found vitamin E, C and beta carotene prevented this process taking place in liver cells. Further tests in mice and rat livers showed vitamin E prevented this " breakdown " process taking place, meaning the liver destroyed fewer lipoproteins. Recommendations 'delayed' Dr Edward Fisher, director of the Lipid Treatment & Research Center at the NYU Medical Center, said: " Our study is the first to document this association between antioxidant vitamins and VLDL cholesterol. " It does appear that antioxidant vitamins may be potentially harmful for the heart based on their ability to increase the secretion of VLDL in the liver cells and in the mice that we studied. " But he added: " More studies are needed to back up our findings. Until more data becomes available, we can't make any recommendations about whether people should not use these vitamins. " However he said there was evidence from other animal studies that antioxidants could have beneficial effects on other parts of the body, such as protecting the arteries from atherosclerosis and the pancreas and other organs from damage caused by diabetes. Writing in the journal, Dr Ronald Krauss of Children's Hospital Oakland Research Institute in California, added that, although there was " considerable " evidence for the benefits of antioxidants, " the potential for unintended outcomes of oxidant therapy should serve as a warning against proceeding with such treatment in the absence of clinical-trial evidence of benefit and safety " . Belinda Linden, head of Medical Information at the British Heart Foundation (BHF), told BBC News Online: " Most research tends to suggest that supplementation with antioxidant vitamins, although not beneficial, does not lead to undue harm. " Before any clear conclusions can be drawn from this study we would await the results of larger randomized controlled clinical trials. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2004 Report Share Posted May 6, 2004 Review from Redflagsdaily.com: Wednesday, May 5, 2004 THE VITAMINS-CHOLESTEROL STUDY Headlines have popped up all over the place indicating that " vitamins increase cholesterol. " Aside from the issue of how clinically relevant such a finding might be, the fact is, the study is basic rodent and lab research and has been hyped ludicrously by the media. In one story written up by the BBC, for example, it is reported that " antioxidants actually hampered the body's fight against damaging cholesterol. " Whose body? A human body? This type of misleading reporting is par for the course these days. And, actually, the researchers themselves also had truly amazing things to say...according to the BBC. The research paper itself - published in the Journal of Clinical Investigation - is highly detailed science and it becomes clear that the researchers see this as early research that will require further studies. In a press release issued by New York University, it is made very clear in the headline that the " animal " research suggests that vitamins could raise levels of bad cholesterol. It also very clear that the researchers are being cautious about their findings, indicating, for example, that, " It does appear that antioxidant vitamins may be potentially harmful for the heart based on their ability to increase the secretion of VLDL in the liver cells and in the mice that we studied. " One may disagree with the theoretical drift of this statement, but we can accept the fact that these are not scientists that are showing a lack of integrity or revealing some agenda. Here is a key quote from the lead researcher in the university press release. Read it carefully: " Until more data becomes available, we can't make any recommendations about whether people should not use these vitamins. " Now read the following paragraph - paragraph no. 3 - from the BBC story: " Writing in the Journal of Clinical Investigation, the researchers say their findings mean they cannot recommend that people use the vitamins. " See the difference? Frank / & Nora Gottlieb said: > Hi Group, > > This was sent in by a member. Most of us have seen these type studies and > press publicity releases which make all the major news. We know that they > are a continuing phoney effort to disparage vitamins and to keep most > people vulnerable and sick. All in an effort to sell more poisons which > will make you more sick, but keep coming back. This has been going on for > about 75 years now with not a peep from any US government agency. But let > anything be said in favor of a nutrient curing anything and the government > storm troopers will be there in quick order to " protect the people " . Since > when is the pharmacutical and allopathic medicine industries the people. > > I have seen blurbs where Vitamin E causes heart disease and all kid of > other stuff and vitamin C causes all kinds of disease. Anyone who does > that or are the money and power behind these type of misleading > " information " are definately not interested in us having good health. They > are not your friends. And you best stop thinking of them in any way but > what they are. Enemies to your health. > > In the final analysis, you better change to a better class of leaders if > you wish to have any rights to health. > > Frank >> > Hi, here is my contribution to what's happening. Any guesses as to who > paid for the study? Nora G > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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