Mammograms---North to Alaska!

[Guest guest]

I spoke further with my wife last night about her friend who travels

about administering mammograms. She has even been to Alaska, giving

them to Eskimos! Isn't it comforting to know that we don't withhold

modern miracle medicine from the vestiges of the Native American

population still alive in this country? That really sets me on my

ear, thinking of Eskimos getting mammograms!

 

The woman gets paid very well for irradiating the breasts of her

fellow women all across this country. " Hey, you don't have

mammography available in your home town! Not to worry! We'll bring it

to you! " It is sad and strange that she believes she is someone doing

a great service to humanity.

 

 

 

want --- In

, " breathedeepnow "

<aug20@m...> wrote:

> Frank, sorry. There were some idiotic typos in the first version of

> this message. I have deleted that first one. Here it is again:

>

> This happened in Illinois today:

>

> A few hours ago, while we were in church, my wife introduced me to

an

> old friend of hers who is a traveling radiology technician whose

sole

> job these days is traveling about administering mammograms.

>

> I just happened to have in my jacket pocket the interview with

Samuel

> Epstein, Professor Emeritus of Public Health at Illinois University.

> I had printed it and brought it with me because I have been trying

to

> bring my fellow church members up to speed about the hazards of

> feeding themselves and their children pepperoni, hot dogs, white

> bread, potato chips, cheese doodles, etc, etc.

>

> After saying hello to my wife's friend, I took out the interview,

> turned to the section in which Epstein talks about the very

dangerous

> amount of radiation accumulated by women who get regular mammograms,

> and began to show it to her. Not 3 seconds passed before she pushed

> the papers away and cut me off, saying, " Oh, don't believe

everything

> you read! " I attempted to remind her that this was not " everything, "

> but a Professor Emeritus of Public Health at her own local Illinois

> University, but she was stone deaf to anything I had to say.

>

> I did score ONE point, however---At the same time she was pushing

the

> interview away, she was talking about the great value of breast

> cancer prevention by diagnosing breast tumors while still small. I

> said to her, " Prevention " ? " Early diagnosis " is NOT prevention.

> PREVENTION is getting daily exercise. Prevention is drinking

> plenty of water daily. Prevention is not eating bratwurst and

> pepperoni! "

>

> And I GOT her to THINK and to ADMIT, at least, that what she was

> talking about is " early diagnosis, " NOT prevention, for pity's

sakes!

>

> Unforunately, such " early diagnosis " means that the cancers get

> treated in an earlier stage which means more women may survive for 5

> years subsequent to beginning treatment, which means the NCI, the

> Drug Companies, the ACS et al can report that " due to mammography,

> survival rates for women with breast cancer are getting better... "

>

> And the ignorance and the lies go on........

[Guest guest]

As with most things and people in life, it is not what they say that

is really important but what they do. I try and use that as a measure

for all of the biggies in life like politics, justice, religion,

relationships, health, etc.

 

Allopathic mediicne talks constantly in an altruistic caring way that

misleads people into thinking that it is really humanistic directed

when nothing could be further from the truth. It is an economic

marketing system to garner profits first, last and almost always and

any human touch is almost incidental to the process. Almost 20

percent of our gross national product is spent on health care in one

form or another.

 

Millions of people are employed in the field and a lot of them are

very well paid. The whole system takes up a large part of our

resources both in manpower and money, but the one thing that gets

neglected in the whole scheme of things and the one that no one has

much time for is the patient. He usually fairs last in consideration.

He is mainly relegated to be kept occupied and cared for by the least

trained and the lowest paid in the whole system.

 

In a hospital setting it is the sytem that produces money that counts

not the recovery of the patient. If it were they would care about

nutrition ( jello anyone?), rest, etc. That is at the bottom of the

list and usually almost nonexistant.

 

my 2 cents,

 

Frank

 

 

, " breathedeepnow "

<aug20@m...> wrote:

> I spoke further with my wife last night about her friend who

travels

> about administering mammograms. She has even been to Alaska, giving

> them to Eskimos! Isn't it comforting to know that we don't withhold

> modern miracle medicine from the vestiges of the Native American

> population still alive in this country? That really sets me on my

> ear, thinking of Eskimos getting mammograms!

>

> The woman gets paid very well for irradiating the breasts of her

> fellow women all across this country. " Hey, you don't have

> mammography available in your home town! Not to worry! We'll bring

it

> to you! " It is sad and strange that she believes she is someone

doing

> a great service to humanity.

>

>

>

> want --- In

> , " breathedeepnow "

> <aug20@m...> wrote:

> > Frank, sorry. There were some idiotic typos in the first version

of

> > this message. I have deleted that first one. Here it is again:

> >

> > This happened in Illinois today:

> >

> > A few hours ago, while we were in church, my wife introduced me

to

> an

> > old friend of hers who is a traveling radiology technician whose

> sole

> > job these days is traveling about administering mammograms.

> >

> > I just happened to have in my jacket pocket the interview with

> Samuel

> > Epstein, Professor Emeritus of Public Health at Illinois

University.

> > I had printed it and brought it with me because I have been

trying

> to

> > bring my fellow church members up to speed about the hazards of

> > feeding themselves and their children pepperoni, hot dogs, white

> > bread, potato chips, cheese doodles, etc, etc.

> >

> > After saying hello to my wife's friend, I took out the interview,

> > turned to the section in which Epstein talks about the very

> dangerous

> > amount of radiation accumulated by women who get regular

mammograms,

> > and began to show it to her. Not 3 seconds passed before she

pushed

> > the papers away and cut me off, saying, " Oh, don't believe

> everything

> > you read! " I attempted to remind her that this was

not " everything, "

> > but a Professor Emeritus of Public Health at her own local

Illinois

> > University, but she was stone deaf to anything I had to say.

> >

> > I did score ONE point, however---At the same time she was pushing

> the

> > interview away, she was talking about the great value of breast

> > cancer prevention by diagnosing breast tumors while still small. I

> > said to her, " Prevention " ? " Early diagnosis " is NOT prevention.

> > PREVENTION is getting daily exercise. Prevention is drinking

> > plenty of water daily. Prevention is not eating bratwurst and

> > pepperoni! "

> >

> > And I GOT her to THINK and to ADMIT, at least, that what she was

> > talking about is " early diagnosis, " NOT prevention, for pity's

> sakes!

> >

> > Unforunately, such " early diagnosis " means that the cancers get

> > treated in an earlier stage which means more women may survive

for 5

> > years subsequent to beginning treatment, which means the NCI, the

> > Drug Companies, the ACS et al can report that " due to mammography,

> > survival rates for women with breast cancer are getting better... "

> >

> > And the ignorance and the lies go on........

[Guest guest]

So terribly true---Modern Medicine is a BUSINESS, first and foremost.

Anyone willing to open their eyes even a crack can readily see it.

Mainstreamers no longer even make a pretense of keeping it a secret.

Hospitals regularly merge now for no other reason than the bottom $$$

line. They advertise shamelessly on billboards and elsewhere. The

mainstream has its " friendly first-name " goon doctors, " Doctor

Dean, " " Doctor Tom, " etc, on ABC and other major news networks,

mercilessly propagandizing for the medical mainstream. It is ALL

about BUSINESS, NOT health, and ABSOLUTELY NOT about preventive

health.

 

You say the " patient " is at the bottom of the totem pole---CORRECT!

When I was still paying attention to what the oncologist and the

hospital had to say about the cancer I had back in the '90s, I knew

that, and so whenever I had to go to the hospital, I dressed as

outrageously as I could---for instance, I might wear a big cowboy

hat, sunglasses and clothes that clashed loudly---to purposely

attract attention to myself---to get hospital employees to say to

themselves, " Uh-oh! Better pay closer attention to this one! "

 

When I was still living in New Jersey, my mother was in a serious

auto accident that crushed her hip. She had it repaired, and while

recovering developed a bladder infection---a very serious thing in

this case, because there was the chance it could jump to her hip and

infect the bone.

 

The urologist she was seeing at the time was a nasty little man, and

inept to boot. He tried enough things to make plenty of money, but no

cure. He even called in a " neurourologist, " who, when I asked him

what he expected to find out from his testing, which consisted of

putting her on a bicycle-seat contraption, with electrodes attached,

replied, and I kid you not: " First ve do zeh tests, undt zen ve ask

zeh qvestchuns! " I don't know why I let him get away with such an

answer. I certainly would not if the same thing happened today. His

very expensive, complicated test yielded exactly nothing---nothing,

that is, except more money for the urological practice he was with...

 

My mother finally stopped seeing that lunatic when he told her on the

phone, " You are taking up an inordinate amount of my time. " By some

miracle, we found her another urologist who ACTUALLY spent a full

half-hour of his time on the phone with me explaining that my mother

was getting infections because her bladder was flaccid, and urine was

collecting and stagnating, allowing bacteria to grow. He said he was

going to give her a drug to make her bladder more turgid. He did, and

the infection disappeared.

 

While it may be that one wants to avoid drugs whenever possible, in

this case, there was real danger of bone infection. The second

urologist told us his plan, he executed it and it worked. Given

today's world of supervised, HMO, Big Business Medicine, I was amazed

and gratified that the man actually took 30 minutes out of his

schedule to discuss intelligently and intelligibly with me what he

was going to do, and then went ahead and did it!

 

Another time, my father was having serious heart symptoms and I took

him to the local emergency room, where we waited several hours for

his " heart specialist " to show up.

 

When he did, he began speaking to my father, and ignoring any

questions my father put to him. After that doctor had ignored perhaps

4 or 5 of my father's queries, I interrupted, and said, " Doctor,

could you please answer the questions my father is asking you? " He

ignored me and went on speaking. I interrupted again, and this time,

he said to me, " Look, this is the way I work. If you're not happy

with it, you can just find yourself another doctor! "

 

I suggested to him rather strongly that my father was having what

appeared to be serious heart symptoms, and that I thought he ought to

answer whatever questions my dad was asking, whereupon he actually

said to me, " Fine! Find yourself another doctor! " and walked out!

 

I was truly riled at that point, and I followed him out toward the

emergency room desk, where I told him in a loud voice that I was not

intimidated by his tactics, and that he was behaving like an infant.

I said some more things I can't remember now.

 

It was most interesting that no one in that emergency room called a

security guard, even though what was happening was very unusual, and

rather loud and possibly disruptive.

 

After letting the doctor know my mind, I picked up the hospital phone

and called the Hospital President's office to tell his assistant to

get someone down to the emergency room to talk to a particularly

childish doctor. Someone quickly arrived, and within a few minutes,

that hubris-filled " heart specialist " went back into my father's room

and continued to treat him.

 

My father was soon assigned to a private room for observation, and I

orderly who took my dad up to his room privately shook my hand and

told me in so many words that that particular doctor was very

deserving of what he got from me. That explained why no one in the ER

called security to the scene.

 

As someone who has recovered from cancer and who has seen how useless

MD's and hospitals have been in treating my aging parents'

degenerative dis-eases, I can be a doctors' worst nightmare! LOL!

 

Best wishes,

 

Elliot--- In

, " califpacific "

<califpacific> wrote:

> As with most things and people in life, it is not what they say

that

> is really important but what they do. I try and use that as a

measure

> for all of the biggies in life like politics, justice, religion,

> relationships, health, etc.

>

> Allopathic mediicne talks constantly in an altruistic caring way

that

> misleads people into thinking that it is really humanistic directed

> when nothing could be further from the truth. It is an economic

> marketing system to garner profits first, last and almost always

and

> any human touch is almost incidental to the process. Almost 20

> percent of our gross national product is spent on health care in

one

> form or another.

>

> Millions of people are employed in the field and a lot of them are

> very well paid. The whole system takes up a large part of our

> resources both in manpower and money, but the one thing that gets

> neglected in the whole scheme of things and the one that no one has

> much time for is the patient. He usually fairs last in

consideration.

> He is mainly relegated to be kept occupied and cared for by the

least

> trained and the lowest paid in the whole system.

>

> In a hospital setting it is the sytem that produces money that

counts

> not the recovery of the patient. If it were they would care about

> nutrition ( jello anyone?), rest, etc. That is at the bottom of the

> list and usually almost nonexistant.

>

> my 2 cents,

>

> Frank

>

>

> , " breathedeepnow "

> <aug20@m...> wrote:

> > I spoke further with my wife last night about her friend who

> travels

> > about administering mammograms. She has even been to Alaska,

giving

> > them to Eskimos! Isn't it comforting to know that we don't

withhold

> > modern miracle medicine from the vestiges of the Native American

> > population still alive in this country? That really sets me on my

> > ear, thinking of Eskimos getting mammograms!

> >

> > The woman gets paid very well for irradiating the breasts of her

> > fellow women all across this country. " Hey, you don't have

> > mammography available in your home town! Not to worry! We'll

bring

> it

> > to you! " It is sad and strange that she believes she is someone

> doing

> > a great service to humanity.

> >

> >

> >

> > want --- In

> > , " breathedeepnow "

> > <aug20@m...> wrote:

> > > Frank, sorry. There were some idiotic typos in the first

version

> of

> > > this message. I have deleted that first one. Here it is again:

> > >

> > > This happened in Illinois today:

> > >

> > > A few hours ago, while we were in church, my wife introduced me

> to

> > an

> > > old friend of hers who is a traveling radiology technician

whose

> > sole

> > > job these days is traveling about administering mammograms.

> > >

> > > I just happened to have in my jacket pocket the interview with

> > Samuel

> > > Epstein, Professor Emeritus of Public Health at Illinois

> University.

> > > I had printed it and brought it with me because I have been

> trying

> > to

> > > bring my fellow church members up to speed about the hazards of

> > > feeding themselves and their children pepperoni, hot dogs, white

> > > bread, potato chips, cheese doodles, etc, etc.

> > >

> > > After saying hello to my wife's friend, I took out the

interview,

> > > turned to the section in which Epstein talks about the very

> > dangerous

> > > amount of radiation accumulated by women who get regular

> mammograms,

> > > and began to show it to her. Not 3 seconds passed before she

> pushed

> > > the papers away and cut me off, saying, " Oh, don't believe

> > everything

> > > you read! " I attempted to remind her that this was

> not " everything, "

> > > but a Professor Emeritus of Public Health at her own local

> Illinois

> > > University, but she was stone deaf to anything I had to say.

> > >

> > > I did score ONE point, however---At the same time she was

pushing

> > the

> > > interview away, she was talking about the great value of breast

> > > cancer prevention by diagnosing breast tumors while still

small. I

> > > said to her, " Prevention " ? " Early diagnosis " is NOT prevention.

> > > PREVENTION is getting daily exercise. Prevention is drinking

> > > plenty of water daily. Prevention is not eating bratwurst and

> > > pepperoni! "

> > >

> > > And I GOT her to THINK and to ADMIT, at least, that what she was

> > > talking about is " early diagnosis, " NOT prevention, for pity's

> > sakes!

> > >

> > > Unforunately, such " early diagnosis " means that the cancers get

> > > treated in an earlier stage which means more women may survive

> for 5

> > > years subsequent to beginning treatment, which means the NCI,

the

> > > Drug Companies, the ACS et al can report that " due to

mammography,

> > > survival rates for women with breast cancer are getting

better... "

> > >

> > > And the ignorance and the lies go on........