Guest guest Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 What is Wiccan-Christian-Pantheism? By Robin T. Quinn We are indeed an interesting mix. Because modern Pantheism is our principle foundation, I should begin with a short synopsis of Pantheism for those who are not familiar with this philosophy. Pantheism has nothing to do with " pantheon " or " polytheism " - belief in many Gods. It is neither theism nor atheism, but transcends both. Its central tenet is that the Universe is the ultimate reality, the ultimate object of reverence, while nature is a sacred part of the totality of which every one of us, in life or in death, is an inseparable part. In short, God and the Universe are One in the same. We live inside of God, not outside. God is an Infinite Organism, and all finite organisms are part of IT, cohabiting within IT. Pantheism is an ancient belief, older than Buddhism or Christianity, and may already count hundreds of millions among its members. Most Taoists are Pantheists, along with many Chinese, Japanese and Western Buddhists, deep Ecologists, Pagans, Animists, followers of many Native American religions, and many Unitarian Universalists. The central philosophical scriptures of Hinduism are Pantheistic. Many Atheists and Humanists may be Pantheists without realizing it. Now for the Christian aspect in this conglomeration. There are many logical reasons to believe Jesus was not teaching about the anthropomorphic Jewish god, as the vast majority simply assumes. Rather, he was ingeniously speaking about the Pantheist God. This would explain why he used so many Pantheistic metaphors and parables. Had he plainly spoke about the Pantheist God, surely the Jewish fundamentalists would have immediately stoned him to death. Jesus never claimed to be a god, in fact he said, " What I can do, you can do even greater. " What god would say such a thing? Most people simply assume he was claiming to be a god when he said, " God is in me, and I am in God. " That is a statement all Pantheists can make. And to clarify this Pantheistic saying, we are all " part " of God, not the " whole " of God. We are all the sons and daughters of the Universe, made of the same materials and elements as the Universe/God. And this is in perfect alignment with modern science. It was with the blessing of the Roman empire around 300 AD, which allowed the Catholic Church to proclaim Jesus as a god. To Pantheists, there is only one God, Thee Universe. In conclusion with the Wiccan perspective, without question Jesus casted a spell on this world, and even after 2000 years it continues to burn brightly. No one comes close to the magical spells of Jesus. As he stated, " I have casted a fire upon this world. " However he was a good Witch, and thousands of years ahead of his time. He was the ultimate Witch, teaching love and non-violence in a era of horrible violence. For additional information concerning Wiccan-Christian-Pantheism, please join our , just below... Wiccan_Christian_Pantheists/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 As a Pantheist myself, i'm having a romantic love affair with Science and Nature but i never, ever worship anything~~ the happy pantheist, Hempress ---- lori_love101 04/19/06 10:15:19 What is Wiccan-Christian-Pantheism? What is Wiccan-Christian-Pantheism?By Robin T. QuinnWe are indeed an interesting mix. Because modern Pantheism is our principle foundation, I should begin with a short synopsis of Pantheism for those who are not familiar with this philosophy.Pantheism has nothing to do with "pantheon" or "polytheism" - belief in many Gods. It is neither theism nor atheism, but transcends both. Its central tenet is that the Universe is the ultimate reality, the ultimate object of reverence, while nature is a sacred part of the totality of which every one of us, in life or in death, is an inseparable part. In short, God and the Universe are One in the same. We live inside of God, not outside. God is an Infinite Organism, and all finite organisms are part of IT, cohabiting within IT.Pantheism is an ancient belief, older than Buddhism or Christianity, and may already count hundreds of millions among its members. Most Taoists are Pantheists, along with many Chinese, Japanese and Western Buddhists, deep Ecologists,Pagans, Animists, followers of many Native American religions, and many Unitarian Universalists. The central philosophical scriptures of Hinduism are Pantheistic. Many Atheists and Humanists may be Pantheists without realizing it.Now for the Christian aspect in this conglomeration.There are many logical reasons to believe Jesus was not teaching about the anthropomorphic Jewish god, as the vast majority simply assumes. Rather, he was ingeniously speaking about the Pantheist God. This would explain why he used so many Pantheistic metaphors and parables. Had he plainly spoke about the Pantheist God, surely the Jewish fundamentalists would have immediately stoned him to death.Jesus never claimed to be a god, in fact he said, "What I can do, you can do even greater." What god would say such a thing? Most people simply assume he was claiming to be a god when he said, "God is in me, and I am in God." That is a statement all Pantheists can make. And to clarify this Pantheistic saying, we are all "part" of God, not the "whole" of God. We are all the sons and daughters of the Universe, made of the same materials and elements as the Universe/God. And this is in perfect alignment with modern science. It was with the blessing of the Roman empire around 300 AD, which allowed the Catholic Church to proclaim Jesus as a god. To Pantheists, there is only one God, Thee Universe.In conclusion with the Wiccan perspective, without question Jesus casted a spell on this world, and even after 2000 years it continues to burn brightly. No one comes close to the magical spells of Jesus. As he stated, "I have casted a fire upon this world." However he was a good Witch, and thousands of years ahead of his time. He was the ultimate Witch, teaching love and non-violence in a era of horrible violence. For additional information concerning Wiccan-Christian-Pantheism, please join our , just below... Wiccan_Christian_Pantheists/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 In those religious quizzy things I always get 97% Mahayana Buddhist & 96% Pantheist & I don't know what it is & I worship everything Jane - HAH Thursday, April 20, 2006 8:12 AM Re: What is Wiccan-Christian-Pantheism? As a Pantheist myself, i'm having a romantic love affair with Science and Nature but i never, ever worship anything~~ the happy pantheist, Hempress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 You 'worship' what you live by and follow. Your bank account, your credit cards... " Romantic love affiar with Science and Nature....? " Nice thought. But totally nonsense. " Wiccan-Christian-Pantheism " is what this society is involved in. All rooted in babylonian pharisism. So what? --- HAH <GaiaHemp wrote: > As a Pantheist myself, i'm having a romantic love > affair with Science and > Nature but i never, ever worship anything~~ > > the happy pantheist, > Hempress > > ---- > > lori_love101 > 04/19/06 10:15:19 > > What is > Wiccan-Christian-Pantheism? > > What is Wiccan-Christian-Pantheism? > > By Robin T. Quinn > > We are indeed an interesting mix. Because modern > Pantheism is our > principle foundation, I should begin with a short > synopsis of > Pantheism for those who are not familiar with this > philosophy. > > Pantheism has nothing to do with " pantheon " or > " polytheism " - belief > in many Gods. It is neither theism nor atheism, but > transcends both. > Its central tenet is that the Universe is the > ultimate reality, the > ultimate object of reverence, while nature is a > sacred part of the > totality of which every one of us, in life or in > death, is an > inseparable part. In short, God and the Universe are > One in the same. > We live inside of God, not outside. God is an > Infinite Organism, and > all finite organisms are part of IT, cohabiting > within IT. > > Pantheism is an ancient belief, older than Buddhism > or Christianity, > and may already count hundreds of millions among its > members. Most > Taoists are Pantheists, along with many Chinese, > Japanese and Western > Buddhists, deep Ecologists, > Pagans, Animists, followers of many Native American > religions, and > many Unitarian Universalists. The central > philosophical scriptures of > Hinduism are Pantheistic. Many Atheists and > Humanists may be > Pantheists without realizing it. > > Now for the Christian aspect in this conglomeration. > There are many logical reasons to believe Jesus was > not teaching > about the anthropomorphic Jewish god, as the vast > majority simply > assumes. Rather, he was ingeniously speaking about > the Pantheist God. > This would explain why he used so many Pantheistic > metaphors and > parables. Had he plainly spoke about the Pantheist > God, surely the > Jewish fundamentalists would have immediately stoned > him to death. > > Jesus never claimed to be a god, in fact he said, > " What I can do, you > can do even greater. " What god would say such a > thing? Most people > simply assume he was claiming to be a god when he > said, " God is in > me, and I am in God. " That is a statement all > Pantheists can make. > And to clarify this Pantheistic saying, we are all > " part " of God, not > the " whole " of God. We are all the sons and > daughters of the > Universe, made of the same materials and elements as > the > Universe/God. And this is in perfect alignment with > modern science. > It was with the blessing of the Roman empire around > 300 AD, which > allowed the Catholic Church to proclaim Jesus as a > god. To > Pantheists, there is only one God, Thee Universe. > > In conclusion with the Wiccan perspective, without > question Jesus > casted a spell on this world, and even after 2000 > years it continues > to burn brightly. No one comes close to the magical > spells of Jesus. > As he stated, " I have casted a fire upon this > world. " However he was > a good Witch, and thousands of years ahead of his > time. He was the > ultimate Witch, teaching love and non-violence in a > era of horrible > violence. > > For additional information concerning > Wiccan-Christian-Pantheism, > please join our , just > below... > > Wiccan_Christian_Pantheists/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ��������������������������ï¿\ ½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï\ ¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ > > > > � - PULSE ON WORLD HEALTH > CONSPIRACIES! � > > Subscribe:......... > - > > ��������������������������ï¿\ ½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï\ ¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ > > > New Sister Group: > > MedicalConspiracies > > Subscribe: > MedicalConspiracies- > Post message: > MedicalConspiracies > List owner: > MedicalConspiracies-owner > > ��������������������������ï¿\ ½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï\ ¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ > > > New Sister Group: MedicalConspiracies (One Word)at > Google groups: > > http://groups.google.comMedicalConspiracies > > Post message: > MedicalConspiracies (AT) googl (DOT) com > Subscribe: > MedicalConspiracies- (AT) googl (DOT) com > > Any information here in is for educational purpose > only, it may be news > related, purely speculation or someone's opinion. > Always consult with a > qualified health practitioner before deciding on any > course of treatment, > especially for serious or life-threatening > illnesses. > **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** > In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. 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Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 > What is Wiccan-Christian-Pantheism? Persistantly embracing magical and mythic stuctures speak volumes on the subject of one's personal spiritual and psychological evolution. Have you read any of Ken Wilber's work on integration? Try " A Sociable God " , and " Integral Psychology: Consciousness, Spirit, Psychology, Therapy " . They are probably in your library. Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 "Romantic love affiar with Science and Nature....?"Nice thought. But totally nonsense. please explain why something that works for me its that to you?? i'll be waiting, ok? Hempress ---- Joseph Toman 04/19/06 22:35:40 Cc: uccredemption Re: What is Wiccan-Christian-Pantheism? You 'worship' what you live by and follow. Your bankaccount, your credit cards..."Romantic love affiar with Science and Nature....?"Nice thought. But totally nonsense."Wiccan-Christian-Pantheism" is what this society isinvolved in. All rooted in babylonian pharisism. Sowhat?--- HAH <GaiaHemp wrote:> As a Pantheist myself, i'm having a romantic love> affair with Science and> Nature but i never, ever worship anything~~> > the happy pantheist,> Hempress > > ----> > lori_love101> 04/19/06 10:15:19> > What is> Wiccan-Christian-Pantheism?> > What is Wiccan-Christian-Pantheism?> > By Robin T. Quinn> > We are indeed an interesting mix. Because modern> Pantheism is our > principle foundation, I should begin with a short> synopsis of > Pantheism for those who are not familiar with this> philosophy.> > Pantheism has nothing to do with "pantheon" or> "polytheism" - belief > in many Gods. It is neither theism nor atheism, but> transcends both. > Its central tenet is that the Universe is the> ultimate reality, the > ultimate object of reverence, while nature is a> sacred part of the > totality of which every one of us, in life or in> death, is an > inseparable part. In short, God and the Universe are> One in the same. > We live inside of God, not outside. God is an> Infinite Organism, and > all finite organisms are part of IT, cohabiting> within IT.> > Pantheism is an ancient belief, older than Buddhism> or Christianity, > and may already count hundreds of millions among its> members. Most > Taoists are Pantheists, along with many Chinese,> Japanese and Western > Buddhists, deep Ecologists,> Pagans, Animists, followers of many Native American> religions, and > many Unitarian Universalists. The central> philosophical scriptures of > Hinduism are Pantheistic. Many Atheists and> Humanists may be > Pantheists without realizing it.> > Now for the Christian aspect in this conglomeration.> There are many logical reasons to believe Jesus was> not teaching > about the anthropomorphic Jewish god, as the vast> majority simply > assumes. Rather, he was ingeniously speaking about> the Pantheist God. > This would explain why he used so many Pantheistic> metaphors and > parables. Had he plainly spoke about the Pantheist> God, surely the > Jewish fundamentalists would have immediately stoned> him to death.> > Jesus never claimed to be a god, in fact he said,> "What I can do, you > can do even greater." What god would say such a> thing? Most people > simply assume he was claiming to be a god when he> said, "God is in > me, and I am in God." That is a statement all> Pantheists can make. > And to clarify this Pantheistic saying, we are all> "part" of God, not > the "whole" of God. We are all the sons and> daughters of the > Universe, made of the same materials and elements as> the > Universe/God. And this is in perfect alignment with> modern science. > It was with the blessing of the Roman empire around> 300 AD, which > allowed the Catholic Church to proclaim Jesus as a> god. To > Pantheists, there is only one God, Thee Universe.> > In conclusion with the Wiccan perspective, without> question Jesus > casted a spell on this world, and even after 2000> years it continues > to burn brightly. No one comes close to the magical> spells of Jesus. > As he stated, "I have casted a fire upon this> world." However he was > a good Witch, and thousands of years ahead of his> time. He was the > ultimate Witch, teaching love and non-violence in a> era of horrible > violence. > > For additional information concerning> Wiccan-Christian-Pantheism, > please join our , just > below... > >Wiccan_Christian_Pantheists/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >�����������������������������������������������������������������������������> > > > � - PULSE ON WORLD HEALTH> CONSPIRACIES! �> > Subscribe:.........> - > >�����������������������������������������������������������������������������> > > New Sister Group: > > MedicalConspiracies> > Subscribe: > MedicalConspiracies- > Post message: > MedicalConspiracies > List owner: > MedicalConspiracies-owner > >�����������������������������������������������������������������������������> > > New Sister Group: MedicalConspiracies (One Word)at> Google groups:> > http://groups.google.comMedicalConspiracies> > Post message: > MedicalConspiracies (AT) googl (DOT) com> Subscribe: > MedicalConspiracies- (AT) googl (DOT) com> > Any information here in is for educational purpose> only, it may be news> related, purely speculation or someone's opinion.> Always consult with a> qualified health practitioner before deciding on any> course of treatment,> especially for serious or life-threatening> illnesses.> **COPYRIGHT NOTICE**> In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. 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Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 and Mr. Toman, for you to have any type of respectful dialogue with others, like myself, its best you speak for yourself, not someone you dont know~ You cant tell anyone what they they worship, especially someone who just stated " i never, ever worship anything~~" just speak for yourself for now on, for thats the only way to come off humble and get back respect, for your ego just ran across my screen a 100 miles an hour just a moment ago~ I live a Wolf/Tortoise life, i can only share with you what i have Real Eyes in my life experiences, you dont like it, just say that but dont tell me it's not right for me, its nonsense, for what i know to have kept me alive after being on life support 5 times might not work for you, try to get that thru your brain, ok? love, A wise man knows he knows nothing. Seek truth in meditation, not in moldy books. Look to the sky to find the moon, not in the pond. ~ Persian proverb ---- Joseph Toman 04/19/06 22:35:40 Cc: uccredemption Re: What is Wiccan-Christian-Pantheism? You 'worship' what you live by and follow. Your bankaccount, your credit cards..."Romantic love affiar with Science and Nature....?"Nice thought. But totally nonsense."Wiccan-Christian-Pantheism" is what this society isinvolved in. All rooted in babylonian pharisism. Sowhat?--- HAH <GaiaHemp wrote:> As a Pantheist myself, i'm having a romantic love> affair with Science and> Nature but i never, ever worship anything~~> > the happy pantheist,> Hempress > > ----> > lori_love101> 04/19/06 10:15:19> > What is> Wiccan-Christian-Pantheism?> > What is Wiccan-Christian-Pantheism?> > By Robin T. Quinn> > We are indeed an interesting mix. Because modern> Pantheism is our > principle foundation, I should begin with a short> synopsis of > Pantheism for those who are not familiar with this> philosophy.> > Pantheism has nothing to do with "pantheon" or> "polytheism" - belief > in many Gods. It is neither theism nor atheism, but> transcends both. > Its central tenet is that the Universe is the> ultimate reality, the > ultimate object of reverence, while nature is a> sacred part of the > totality of which every one of us, in life or in> death, is an > inseparable part. In short, God and the Universe are> One in the same. > We live inside of God, not outside. God is an> Infinite Organism, and > all finite organisms are part of IT, cohabiting> within IT.> > Visit your group "" on the web. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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