Guest guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 > Has anyone here compared Probiotic costs? We're wondering what a > resonable price for Probiotics is and where to find a good quality > probiotic with no perservatives, starches or any other ingredients. > > Thanks, > > Marian Marian, you don't need pobiotics at all if you feed them PREbiotics. Prebiotics are cheap and they do much more; in fact, probiotics don't work without them, and the reason people investigate probiotics at all is because their diet is prebiotic deficient. Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 In a message dated 2/5/2006 4:29:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, DMHelmick1 writes: Has anyone here compared Probiotic costs? We're wondering what a resonable price for Probiotics is and where to find a good quality probiotic with no perservatives, starches or any other ingredients.Thanks,Marian I buy Pearls, from enzymatic therapy, or else NSI, which is enteric coated. I buy all of my supplements at Wholesale cost or right near wholesale cost from www.vitacost.com Good Luck, Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Duncan Where would I find PREbiotics and info on them? Marian , Duncan Crow <duncancrow wrote: > > > Has anyone here compared Probiotic costs? We're wondering what a > > resonable price for Probiotics is and where to find a good quality > > probiotic with no perservatives, starches or any other ingredients. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Marian > > Marian, you don't need pobiotics at all if you feed them > PREbiotics. Prebiotics are cheap and they do much more; in fact, > probiotics don't work without them, and the reason people > investigate probiotics at all is because their diet is prebiotic > deficient. > > Duncan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 FYI Probiotics and Prebiotics http://www.medicinalfoodnews.com/vol02/issue7/biotic.htm Probiotics are an important part of the complex world of foods that are good for health. Probiotics are foods that contain live bacteria. It is the bacteria and metabolites which they produce that give these probiotics their health promoting properties. The best known example of a probiotic is yogurt. The experimental data for yogurt is still not as conclusive as one would like, but human studies related to the consumption of yogurt show increased milk digestibility, quicker recovery from certain types of diarrhea, enhanced immune function, reduction in certain cancers, and possible lowering of blood cholesterol levels. The bacteria which are found in probiotic products such as yogurt, kefir and fermented vegetables usually aren't normally found in the human intestine. In fact, the intestinal environment is often a hostile one for these foreign bacteria. Because of this, bacteria eaten in probiotic products don't colonize the intestine but are flushed though and eliminated quickly from the body. The bacteria that live in the intestines make up a very large and very diverse population. The numbers of each kind of bacteria change depending on age, diet, health status, and use of drugs and supplements. The bacteria that do thrive do so because they are able to adhere to the intestinal wall and use the semi-digested food that is passing through the intestines. It is not surprising to find that the bacterial population in the intestines of vegetarians is much different that that of meat eaters. Because some bacteria have specific nutrient requirements it has been proposed that adding these particular foods or nutrient to the diet could be a way of increasing the numbers of specific bacteria. That is what prebiotics are. Prebiotics are foods or nutrients that are used by specific bacteria and that can be added to the diet to increase the chances of these particular bacteria growing and thriving in the intestine. Fructooligosaccharides (FOS) have been known as prebiotics for some time , but have been joined by galactooligosaccharides and other digestion resistant carbohydrates. FOS are compounds made up of fructose sugar molecules linked together in long chains. They can be found naturally in such foods as Jerusalem artichoke tubers, onions, leeks, some grains and honey. People who have been eating their yogurt and therefore have a probiotic in their diet. Others have been eating foods that contain FOS and have had a prebiotic in their diet. Recently a yogurt has hit the market that contains both live bacteria and FOS. So now it is possible to eat a probiotic that contains a prebiotic. This should increase even more the beneficial effects of eating yogurt. The concept of a prebiotic is one that could be included in many food products and it is likely that in the future we will be eating foods that are probiotics that also contain prebiotic ingredients. The more we learn about bacteria and how they affect our health, the more important probiotic products will become. See also: http://www.medicinalfoodnews.com/cgi-bin/perlfect/search/search.pl?q=probiotic Do a google search for more info on "PREBIOTICS" Marian <DMHelmick1 wrote: Duncan Where would I find PREbiotics and info on them? Marian , Duncan Crow <duncancrow wrote: > > > Has anyone here compared Probiotic costs? We're wondering what a > > resonable price for Probiotics is and where to find a good quality > > probiotic with no perservatives, starches or any other ingredients. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Marian > > Marian, you don't need pobiotics at all if you feed them > PREbiotics. Prebiotics are cheap and they do much more; in fact, > probiotics don't work without them, and the reason people > investigate probiotics at all is because their diet is prebiotic > deficient. > > Duncan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Explain what pre-biotics are please? - Duncan Crow Sunday, February 05, 2006 9:22 PM Re: Has anyone here compared Probiotic costs? > Has anyone here compared Probiotic costs? We're wondering what a> resonable price for Probiotics is and where to find a good quality> probiotic with no perservatives, starches or any other ingredients.> > Thanks,> > MarianMarian, you don't need pobiotics at all if you feed them PREbiotics. Prebiotics are cheap and they do much more; in fact, probiotics don't work without them, and the reason people investigate probiotics at all is because their diet is prebiotic deficient.Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 > Where would I find PREbiotics and info on them? > > Marian My website is a leading site on PREbiotic information -- Duncan Crow http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/inulin_prebiotic_probiotic.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 > Joseph Toman wrote: > The bacteria which are found > in probiotic products such as yogurt, kefir and fermented vegetables > usually aren't normally found in the human intestine. In fact, the > intestinal environment is often a hostile one for these foreign > bacteria. Lactobacilli and bifidobacteria are cultured in yogurt; both are found in human youngsters, especially the bifidobacteria, as the dominant probiotic population. Exact strains vary within families and villages even on the same diet. The elderly have even higher levels of lactobacilli acidophilus and other lactobacilli. > Because of this, bacteria eaten in probiotic products > don't colonize the intestine but are flushed though and eliminated > quickly from the body. The reason oral probioic bacteria don't colonize well is that they need to be an active culture; to be active they need to be fed. The modern North American diet contains only about 1/5 of optimal levels of this feed in the form of natural PREbiotics, and roughly 1/15 of historic use such as eastern Europeans, and only 1/150 of what Aborininal Ausralians got. There's your issue. The proof is seen in feeding people optimal levels; bowel dysbiosis goes away, colonization has been successful, and the pathogen numbers and bowel issues are once again under control. This is explained in the literature with references; a good place to learn about PREbiotics and PRObiotics is in the Comprehensive Scientific Review that gets us to about year 2000: http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/inulin_review.html The yogurt with prebiotic mentioned later in the post hasn't enough inulin PREbiotic added to do much. Optimal is about 12-15 grams; yogurt contains about a gram per serving. Duncan Crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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