Imagine There's No HIV, It's Easy If You Question AIDS

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> Imagine There's No HIV

> It's Easy If You Question AIDS

> Mon26 Sep 2005 17:32:39 EDT

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>HIV DENIAL OR INFORMED AIDS DISSENT?

>

>Think only a few scientists, doctors, academics and journalists doubt the

>'HIV' theory of immuno-deficiency? THINK AGAIN.

>

>http://www.aras.ab.ca/thelist.htm

>

>http://www.aras.ab.ca/aidsquotes.htm

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>

>DID YOU KNOW hundreds of dissenting or dissident scientists, including Nobel

>Laureates and members of the National Academy of Sciences, confirming

>alternative medicine's long questioning of the virus/germ mode or 'one-cause,

>one-course' drug-based model, are calling into question the dominant,

conventional

>pharmaceutically-based scientific and medical hypothesis for the alleged viral

>pathogenesis and progression of 'HIV=AIDS?'

>

>Dissidents dissent from a legitimate scientific and medical bases as to the

>causatives and curatives for 30-something previously known and unrelated 'AIDS'

>clinically redefined illnesses, all of which occur in those diagnosed 'HIV'

>non-specific antibody negative. So, besides the definition and diagnosis of

>what is called 'AIDS' Dissidents are also challenging the accuracy and

specifity

>of the 'HIV' non-specific antibody tests to measure infection with any virus

>since there are over 60+ known cross-reactors from pregnancy to the flu to

>immunizations to hepatitis to transfusions and on and on. It is a clinical

>conundrum or circular construct. TB + HIV = AIDS, whereas TB - HIV = TB and so

on and

>so forth on down the list of 30-something previously known and unrelated

>illnesses. No one has ever had 'AIDS' or become ill or died of 'AIDS' though

>persons [mis]diagnosed as such have become ill and/or died. It is not simply a

>matter of semantics, that we are playing a name game. Most of those

[mis]diagnosed

>with 'AIDS' have no clinical symptoms, except a non-specific clinical marker

>of under 200 T-Cells and there is insufficient evidence 'HIV' positivity is

>always or usually a wake-up call rather than a crank call for a stressed immune

>system. We recommend all persons address their health irrespective of 'HIV' or

>'AIDS' labels.

>

>We endorse a multi-factorial approach to immune suficiency and sustainability

>in addressing the oxidative stressors including physical[malnutrition],

>chemical[toxicologic], biological[dis-ease], psychological[chronic stress], and

>spiritual[religious reconciling]-- of which 'HIV' non-specific,

non-confirmatory

>marker positivity is no reliable indicator of worthiness or wellness.

>

>We are disbelievers in a '[sAME]SEXUAL=SIN=SICKNESS' mindset having lead for

>many to the unquestioned acceptance of the 'HIV=AIDS=DEATH' paradigm. We

>endorse proportionate access to alternative health care for the 50%-2/3 of

those

>'HIV/AIDS' diagnosed which the HHS says are not in 'HIV' Specialist Care and

who

>may not choose to access due to their health care philosophy and practise. We

>also endorse a model of competition within our health care system to break up

>the current model of monopoly of conventional, pharmaceutically-based

>medicine. We oppose the enforcement of medical correctness and scientific

censorship

>within governmental and private non-profit insititutions such as that enforced

>by the AIDS Industry and many organizations within the LGBT community.

>

>FIRST, HERE'S A LITTLE MORE ABOUT ME:

>

>

>> I formerly served on AIDS Project Los Angeles Spiritual Advisory Committee

>> and as the Director of the InterFaith Project for Gay/Lesbian Concerns at

>> USC, organizing " Coming Out To God " tabling during National Coming Out Week

>> three years in a row representing many reconciling organizations and

affirming

>> congregations, also a peer mentoring and drop-out prevention program for gay

>> and lesbian youth in five area high schools in connection with Project Ten. I

>> am also the first open AIDS Dissident appointed to the Federation of Gay

>> Games, Sydney 2002, " AIDS, Breast Cancer and Wellness Subcommittee " and have

>> spoken to groups as diverse as Log Cabin Republicans. I have been heavily

involved

>> in the presence of AIDS Dissidence on the net; negotiating links to AIDS

>> Dissident organizations on websites such as AEGiS and Frontiers and have

helped

>> to found a number of very active AIDS Dissident forums, websites with

>> thousands of members. I have also organized many on-line and on-land actions,

>> participated in some forums, conferences. In 2003, I was contacted by the

Secret

>> Service and asked about my involvement in the AIDS Dissident movement since,

I

>> assume, 'AIDS' is catagorized as a national security issue and AIDS

>> Dissidents are challenging the dominant scientific and conventional medical

model,

>> questioning the whole paradigm and protocol.

>>

>> Although I work with many persons of any or no faith, I am also the founder

>> of DISSIDENT and SAINT, a faith-based social action which has engaged in

>> direct non-violent action at the 2002 and 2003 Utah Pride Festivals, last

year

>> being denied our booth application after having paid our fee and standing in

>> the 'HIV' testing line under threat of arrest, respectfully providing AIDS

>> alternative resources and information, resulting in a number of persons

getting

>> out of the line. Our members include the former 'HIV' Prevention Specialist

at

>> the Utah AIDS Foundation, Rob Jones and founder of gayRMs, a social

>> fellowship for gay Returned Missionaries.

>

>

>

>READ MORE OF KELLY JON LANDIS INVOLVEMENT IN THE DISSENTING SCIENTIFIC AND

>ALTERNATIVE HEALTH CARE FREEDOM MOVEMENT:

>

>...including testifying before a joint legislative hearing in Sacramento, CA

>representing the Group for the Scientific Reappriasal of the HIV/AIDS

>Hypothesis and providing testimony to the White House Commission on CAM and

many other

>organizations and individuals.

>

>'NATURAL' ALLIES to AIDS DISSIDENCE

>http://groups.msn.com/AIDSMythExposed/general.msnw?action=get_message & mview=0 &

>ID_Message=1582 & LastModified=4675445024672392681

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>

>Healthfully and Hopefully,

>

>Kelly Jon Landis

>1317 Euclid St., #9

>Santa Monica, CA 90404

>kjlandis

>310-663-3895 [cell]

>

>

>LINKS TO DISCUSSION THREADS...

>

>BUGGERY, BUG-CHASING, BAREBACKING

>http://forums.delphiforums.com/innocuous/messages?msg=619.1

>

>'HIV' Super Strain: Another False Alarm

>http://forums.delphiforums.com/innocuous/messages?msg=992.1

>

>Logical Fallacies Used Against HIV/AIDS Rethinkers or Dissidents

>http://forums.delphiforums.com/innocuous/messages?msg=269.1

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>Why People Diagnosed with 'AIDS' Are Living Longer Now

>http://forums.delphiforums.com/innocuous/messages?msg=490.1

>

>Who Counts as Socalled " Long-Term Non-Progressors? "

>http://forums.delphiforums.com/innocuous/messages?msg=180.1

>

>

>

>

>BEYOND FLAT EARTH MEDICINE

>

>How popular consensus and the medical establishment have often stubbornly

>clung to the wrong ideas, unable to think outside the box. When medically

>'correct' wasn't always.

>

>

>

>A Brief History of Mismanaged Epidemics

>[Disease]---[Popular Consensus]---[Actual Cause]

>

>Scurvy------Contagious---Malnutrition: Vitamin C deficiency

>

>Beri-beri---Contagious---Malnutrition: Thiamin deficiency

>

>Maternal Fever---Non-contagious---Contagious: Unsanitary doctor practices

>

>Influenza---Bacteria---Virus

>

>Pellagra----Contagious---Malnutrition: Niacin deficiency

>

>SMON(1950s-70s, Japan)---New Virus---Iatrogenic: Pharmaceutically induced

>

>

>In science as in the law, the affirmative statement or theory bares the

>burden of proof for establishing itself. Those who critique it's establishment

in

>fact, are not required to reprove or replace another theory of it's aetiology,

>especially when immune dysfunction has a multi-factorially influenced set of

>unrelated conditions, or according to Alternative Medicine, all

>illness/wellness is on a continuum and the result of immune sufficiency or

deficiency.

>Alternative Medicine has long questioned the virus/germ mode or 'one-cause,

>one-course' drug-based model or theory of illness which is confirmed by the

work of

>hundreds of AIDS Dissident Scientists, including Nobel Laureates, Members of

the

>National Academy of Sciences and pioneers in their fields. Many often

>disconnect the alternative theories of diagnosis[PHILOSOPHY] from the

alternative

>therapies of treatment [PRACTISE]-- in how Alternative Medicine differentially

>diagnoses the individual and treats using a holistic, multi-factorial or

>'many-causes, many-courses' approache to illness. They treat the underlying

causes of

>symptoms, not diagnosing/treating diseases and certainly not

>diagnosing/treating syndromes, which are a 'catch-all' of redefined

classifications or

>catagories of conditions. And therefore, Alternative Medicine does not

generally

>recognize conventional disease classifications.

>

> " For disease, all experience shows, are adjectives, not noun substantives. "

> " There are no specific diseases: there are [only] specific disease conditions

>[or states of dis-ease]. "

>

>Florence Nightingale (Nursing Pioneer, Disease Dissident)

>

>

>Interesting that AIDS Apologists, or those who defend or defer to the

>affirmative

>statement or new theory, in this case the 'HIV=AIDS' hypothesis, often

>compare AIDS

>Dissidents with Flat Earthers, but Galileo was a Dissident, the Flat Earthers

>were the

>mainstream scientific establishment.

>

>There is a famous story about Galileo, that is relevant here, I think.

>Galileo was in

>trouble with the Church authorities, for his observation of Jupiter's moons,

>through his

>telescope. (The four moons that he saw are traditionally called the

> " Galilean " moons,

>after their discoverer.) Anyway, he offered to let an influential member of

>the Clergy

>look through the telescope at these moons, so that said clergyman would see

>what

>Galileo had seen. This pious man refused, saying that as long as he did not

>look, his

>religious faith could remain intact.

>

>Sadly, we are dealing with a kind of medical " church " , regarding the HIV

>theory; its

>members do not want their faith shaken (or stirred! :-) )

>

>Scurvy was thought to be transmitted by a microbe for 200 years even while

>Dissident

>Scientists were arguing it was a Vitamin C deficiency. The implication was

>that Seamen

>or Sailors engaged in 'buggary' were sexually transmissing a 'bug.'

>Homosexuality was

>deemed a psychiatric disorder by the medical and scientific establishment

>until 1973, a

>decade later the medical diagnosis of GRID-- Gay Related Immune Dysfunction

>was

>described in the literature.

>

>

>

>> PEER REVIEW REVIEWED

>> See especially: Little Evidence for Effectiveness of Scientific Peer

>> Review, British Medical Journal 326:241, February 1, 2003; Study

>> Faults Industry Clinical Trials: Company-backed Tests Rarely Follow

>> Guidelines, Report Finds; Associated Press, October 23, 2002, Trials

>> Funded by for Profit Organizations Favor the Intervention: The

>> British Medical Journal, August 3, 2002; 325:249; Scientists for

>> Sale, Health Editor The Guardian, Thursday February 7, 2002; Medical

>> Journal Eases Conflict Rules The Associated Press; Conflicts of

>> Interest in Medical Journals, AMA Journal Critiques Report Data,

>> Associated Press. Hidden Risks, Lethal Truths, Sunday Reporter, Los

>> Angeles Times June 30, 2002; Something Rotten at the Core of Science?

>> Trends in Pharmacological Sciences Vol. 22, No. 2, February 2001;

>> Definning Disease A review by Marilyn Werber Serafini, from National

>> Journal June 8, 2002: Pharmacracy.

>>

>> INDEX OF ARTICLES IN MAINSTREAM PRESS INCLUDING THOSE LISTED:

>> http://www.questionaids.com/index.php?page=PeerReview

>>

>

>

>

>

>New quotes examining the supposed transmission of HIV/AIDS via sex, blood

>products etc.

>Top 100 Inconsistencies in AIDS Science.

>New quotes on the relationship between ‘recreational’ drug use and HIV/AIDS.

>

>Similar quotes regarding other AIDS drugs (collectively known as HAART).

>Scientific quotes indicating that not just injected street drugs are

>associated with HIV and AIDS.

>HIV tests and measurements are not as accurate as many claim.

>Is HIV/AIDS really transmitted between people, or is this just an illusion?

>Myths & Mysteries of HIV and AIDS (html or pdf formats).

>

>ARE THE NEWER CLASS OF AIDS DRUGS RESPONSIBLE FOR DECLINES IN 'AIDS'

>ATTRIBUTED DEATHS? 

>

>YOU GOTTA HAVE HAART [or Highly Active Anti-Retroviral Therapy]? 

>

>INDEX OF ARTICLES, PAPERS ON THE NEW CLASS OF AIDS DRUG COCKTAILS

>http://healtoronto.com/ptease.html

>

>

>CDC data on number of AIDS cases and AIDS deaths. AIDS cases and deaths

>CLEARLY begin to decline *PRIOR* to the release of new " miracle " drugs! (Taken

>from: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/hivsur92.pdf). However, only 19% of

so-called

> " HIV-positive " people were on the new drugs by the end of June *1996* (see:

>http://www.retroconference.org/2001/abstracts/abstracts/abstracts/494.htm ).

>Also, the dosage of the TOXIC AZT has been lowered SUBSTANTIALLY (by at least

50%)

>since its release in 1987. See THIS GRAPHIC for related information.

>

>

>AIDS DISSIDENT SCIENTIFIC SUMMARY ANALYSIS 

>

>

>

>what is hiv? 

>

>No laboratory has ever obtained an undisputed sample of human

>immunodeficiency virus (HIV), despite countless attempts. Most laboratories,

clinics and

>medical corporations have come to accept indirect signs, or 'markers', such as

>antibody reactions, proteins, genetic fragments, 'virus-like' particles,

enzymes

>- that could suggest a virus but also other things - as proving the presence

>and existence of an 'HIV'. 

>

>If such a virus were ever isolated by standards applicable until the late

>1970s, the expectations are that it would be a retrovirus - a concept of

viruses

>adopted in the early 1970s. The genetic code of a retrovirus would work

>'backwards' - 'retro' - transforming RNA to DNA. Most retroviruses are known as

>harmless passenger viruses a part of all of endogenous or naturally occuring

>genetic make-up. 'HIV' has never been found in suficient quantities to kill

T-Cells

>and in fact there is no concensus even after 20+ years as to 'HIV's cytotoxic

>or cell killing mechanism. For a decade, researchers thought cancer was

>caused by a retrovirus. Professor Peter Duesberg, UC Berkeley, isolated the

first

>retrovirus and is a Father of Retrovirology says 'HIV' is a harmless passenger

>virus that does not cause the syndrome known as 'AIDS.' 

>

>In 1984 some signs suggesting a possible new virus were detected in cell

>cultures by the scientific teams of Frenchman Luc Montagnier in Paris, and

>American Robert Gallo in Washington, who were trying to explain a single cause

for

>'AIDS'. The French called their findings Lymphadenopathy Associated Virus

(LAV),

>the Americans called theirs Human T-cell Lymphotrophic Virus III (HTLV-III).

>The US Government announced at a press conference in 1984 that a new virus was

> " the probable cause of AIDS, " yet before any scientific papers inviting peer

>scrutiny were published. When such papers appeared in Science some weeks

>later, a dispute erupted between Montagnier and Gallo. Gallo was found guilty

of

>scientific misconduct by a Senate Ethics Committee, for misappropriating

>material and photographs of 'virus- like' particles from the French. Because of

the

>financial stakes - Gallo and the US government applied for a patent for tests

>for 'HIV' the day of the press conference - the matter was eventually solved

>only by a closed meeting between the scientists which produced an official

>history of events, and a meeting between the US and French Presidents. 

>

>However, neither Gallo nor Montagnier ever managed to purify samples of the

>virus they claimed to have detected. Many scientists believe that without

>fulfiling this traditional primary requirement of virus isolation, multiple

>confusions at the molecular biological level are inevitable over what or

whether

>anything has actually been found. To this day, primary purification of 'HIV'

has

>never been achieved. The last attempts, published in 1997 in Virology, revealed

>proteins and genetic fragments from microvesicles - sub-cell particles - but

>no virus. 

>

>hiv antibody tests 

>

>INDEX OF ARTICLES, PAPERS

>http://www.healtoronto.com/hivtest.html

>

>

>

>Over the years of the HIV/AIDS theory, different types of test have been used

>to try to detect such a virus in patients. These have included (1) antibody

>tests, which look for a reaction in a person's blood between their natural

>antibodies and synthetic proteins said to belong to HIV, and (2) Polymerase

Chain

>Reaction - PCR - or 'viral load' genetic tests, which purport to use part of

>the virus' genetic code to detect its presence. 

>

>All these tests are indirect, or surrogate. They do not claim to detect any

>whole virus. Rather, they use markers to infer whether a virus might be

>present. Unfortunately for the accuracy of these tests, these same markers can

be

>found in a variety of non-HIV situations. No HIV test of any kind has ever been

>validated against the one measure that is not indirect - the gold standard:

>physical virus isolation. This is because isolation of HIV by the previously

>conventional standards of viral isolation has never been achieved, despite

>numerous attempts. 

>

>Of the antibody tests for HIV, there are two main types - called ELISA, and

>Western Blot. Neither was designed especially for HIV, but are examples of

>laboratory methodologies used in many investigations. Around the world many

>companies market their versions of the ELISA and Western Blot antibody tests

for

>HIV. 

>

>However, the uncertain, unvalidated nature of these tests is reflected in the

>product literature supplied by their manufacturers. 

>

>A typical example for the ELISA reads: 

>

> " At present there is no recognised standard for establishing the presence or

>absence of antibodies to HIV-1 and HIV-2 in human blood. " - Axsym System,

>Abbott Laboratories 

>

>A typical example for the Western Blot reads: 

>

> " Do not use this kit as the sole basis of diagnosis of HIV-1 infection. " -

>Epitope, Organon Teknika 

>

>

>

>

>Neither Isolation Nor Validation

>

>Any scientist who declares that a genetic sequence, moreover a genetic

>sequence arrived at by human concensus, represents a naturally occuring virus,

has

>compromised their scientific integrity. To further suggest that this genetic

>sequence represents a unique, exogenous, sexually transmitted and indeed

>pathogenic retrovirus is to enter the realms of pseudo-science. Without HIV

isolation

>all is mere speculation. Even if HIV were isolated and the proteins tested

>for by the ELISA antibody test were actually proteins specific to HIV, an

>antibody test would still not be accurate enough for determining actual viral

>infection. Everyone tests HIV positive on ELISA if their serum is not diluted

by a

>factor of 400 because of non-specific antibodies which bind to any proteins.

>

>

> " Of course we looked for it [HIV]... We saw some particles but they did not

>have the morphology [shape] typical of retroviruses. ... I repeat we did not

>purify. "  

>~ Dr. Luc Montagnier, the " discoverer of HIV "  

>   (see French transcript of quote from the interview

>http://healtoronto.com/lmfrench.html, Did Luc Montagnier Discover HIV?

>http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/dtinterviewlm.htm or video) 

>

>

>

> " No one believed we really had that many isolates... No one believed we

>really meant that... "  

>  ~ Dr. Robert Gallo, also discovered " HIV "  

>   (see Gallo Investigated http://healtoronto.com/galloindex.html) 

>

>

>

>'viral load' / PCR test 

>

>Polymerase Chain Reaction - PCR - or the 'viral load' test, purports to

>detect, and quantify, blood-borne HIV in patients. However, the genetic

fragments

>it amplifies have never been proved to originate in HIV, or in any virus. The

>accuracy of PCR viral load is estimated by leading doctors at plus or minus

>300% - i.e. a reading of 90,000 could be 30,000 or 270,000! 

>

>The PCR was not invented for HIV. Its Nobel Prizewinning inventor, Dr Kary

>Mullis, calls the use of PCR in AIDS medicine, " a tragedy in the practice of

>Western medicine " and a " viral load of crap. "  

>

>The uncertain unvalidated nature of the PCR for HIV is reflected in the

>product literature supplied by manufacturers. A typical example reads: 

>

> " The Amplicor HIV-1 Monitor test is not intended to be used as a screening

>test for HIV or as a diagnostic test to confirm the presence of HIV infection. "

>- Roche, Amplicor 

>

>VIRAL LOAD OF WHAT?

>http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/index/kmullis.htm

>

>

>

>

>

>t-cells 

>

>Since the beginning of the HIV/AIDS theory, it has been suggested that a

>virus kills a certain type of cell of the immune system - called T-cells, or

CD4

>cells. 'T' refers to the maturing of these cells in the gland of the Thymus,

>after their birth in the bone marrow. CD4 is short for Cluster Differentiation

>4, referring to a method by which scientists group subsets of these cells

>according to protein markers on their surface. 

>

>In fact there has never been any proof that an HIV kills these cells, or

>indeed that even when they seem in low numbers in a person's blood, cells have

not

>instead migrated out of the blood to bone marrow and elsewhere. Despite commo

>n assumptions, even by doctors, CD4/T-cell counting remains a poor predictor

>of wellness and illness. Since the Berlin World AIDS Conference of 1992

>considerably less scientific importance has been attached to T-cell counting.

T-cell

>counts are naturally variable, within an individual over time, between

>individuals, and between communities. The technology for counting T-cells is

accurate

>only to approximately plus or minus 100 cells. The cells sampled for counting

>are taken from a person's peripheral blood, where it is widely accepted, less

>than 10% of a healthy person's T-cells will ever be found. 

>

>CD-4 T-cells: What Do They Count For? [index of articles/papers]

>http://healtoronto.com/cd4counts.html

>

>

>

>

>what is aids? 

>

>Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS) is a medical diagnosis applied

>since 1984 in some branches of medicine and the wider public when a person

>perceived as infected with a human immunodeficiency virus ('HIV') experiences

one of

>29 conditions. But all of the 29 conditions exist or occur in persons

>diagnosed 'HIV' antibody negative and are only redefined as 'AIDS' when someone

tests

>antibody positive.

>

>'Acquired' specifies that the diagnosis does not apply to people with

>inherent immune deficiencies. 'Immune Deficiency' is conventionally taken to be

the

>inability of a person's body to protect against illness. Syndrome is a group of

>symptoms or conditions which seem to be more or less linked. 

>

>The growing list of conditions defined 'in the presence of HIV infection'

>since 1984 as AIDS, have already all been known for decades. Thus TB plus 'HIV'

>is AIDS, TB without 'HIV' is TB. Cervical cancer plus 'HIV' is AIDS, without is

>cervical cancer. Etc. 

>

>In the early 1980s the 'AIDS-indicator' conditions numbered two: pneumocystis

>carinii pneumonia (thought to be caused by an opportunistic protozöon, now

>thought to be fungal), and Kaposi's Sarcoma (a quasi-cancer of the skin and

>other membranes, first reported in 1887). These two conditions were found

>increasingly frequently in the early 1980s in the USA and Europe in men having

sex

>with men, and were hypothesised as resulting from infectious immune deficiency,

>inferred from counting people's peripheral T-cells. 

>

>The syndrome was for a while classified as Gay Related Immune Deficiency

>(GRID). The list of 'defining' conditions has increased substantially since

1984,

>though the major risk groups for 'AIDS' in the West have remained men who have

>sex with men, people with haemophilia (Haemophilia), and IV drug users

>(Drugs). Despite early alarms, HIV/AIDS has never become a heterosexual

epidemic in

>the West, which does not mean it's a gay disease, but it has failed to meet

>the parameters of the infectious model. 'HIV=AIDS' does not fulfill Koch's

>Postulates as none of the apes injected with 'HIV' have developed 'AIDS'

>conditions. 

>

>The international CDC definition of AIDS is specifically founded on

>'infection with HIV', assumed or demonstrated. Thus by definition it is nearly

>impossible to have 'AIDS' that is not 'correlative' with 'HIV', though it is

widely

>accepted that 'Immune Deficiency' can be 'Acquired' in a many ways. There are

>also many well documented causes and treatments for all of the 29 'AIDS'

>redefined conditons or for addressing aquired immune deficiency.

>

>Between different regions of the globe, the criteria and means for arriving

>at an AIDS diagnosis vary. There are at least seven varying official criteria

>for diagnosing 'AIDS.' 

>

>In Africa, for example, the same official concept of AIDS can be found, but

>since a meeting in 1985 in the city of Bangui, Cote d'Ivoire, the World Health

>Organisation's Bangui AIDS Definition has allowed for diagnosis of AIDS in

>Africa with no test performed for 'HIV', if a person experiences the relatively

>common African symptoms of weight loss, cough, fever and diarrhoea for more

>than a month. 

>

>HIV cannot be the cause of AIDS. Why would a virus infect 1% of the US

>population and 30% of some Africa countries? Why would a virus cause different

>symptoms depending on your age, gender, and location? Why hasn't 20 years worth

of

>research and billions of dollars spent created a vaccine or " cure " ? Why do the

>pharmaceutical companies and the government censor the scientists, doctors

>and laypeople that ask these questions and provide reasonable answers?

>

>The infectious model does not work that way. See how 'HIV=AIDS' unfills

>Kochs' Three Postulates of the Infectious Model of Disease. This is why there

will

>never be an 'AIDS' vaccine or cure for 'AIDS' or a manner to prevent

>transmission of the alleged 'HIV.'

>

>

>

>'AIDS' IN AFRICA INDEX OF PAPERS, ARTICLES

>http://healtoronto.com/africa.html

>

>HIV Epidemiology or Epidemio-illogic: An AIDS Numbers Game

>http://forums.delphiforums.com/innocuous/messages?msg=606.1

>

>

>

>

>

>

>========================================

>RESOURCES FOR FURTHER INFORMATION

>========================================

>

>

>

>The GROUP for the SCIENTIFIC REAPPRAISAL 

>of the HIV/AIDS HYPOTHESIS  [100s of pages of articles, papers]

>http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/find.htm

>

>

>

>BRITISH MEDICAL JOURNAL [bMJ]

>MODERATED ONLINE DEBATE ON HIV/AIDS http://bmj.com/cgi/eletters/326/7387/495

>

>[Especially note referenced contributions of The Perth Group of Austrailian

>AIDS Dissident Scientists, lead by biophysicist Eleni Papadopulos-Eleopulos,

>whose other extensive archives are found here http://www.theperthgroup.com

>and here: http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/perthgroup/]

>

>

>

>Roberto Giraldo, MD

>President of The Group for the Scientific Reappraisal of the HIV/AIDS

>Hypothesis http://www.robertogiraldo.com/eng/papers/papers.html

>

>

>TREATING AND PREVENTING ILLNESS ATTRIBUTED TO OR ASSOCIATED WITH " AIDS "

>http://www.robertogiraldo.com/eng/papers/TreatingAndPreventingAIDS.html

>

>

>

>REBUTTAL TO NIAID/NIH " Evidence for HIV " DOCUMENT

>http://www.healtoronto.com/nih

>

>

>

>INTERNATIONAL AIDS PANEL, INTERIM REPORT 

>Synthesis of deliberations by the panel of experts invited by the President

>of South Africa, Thabo Mbeki and the ten experiments the Panel designed in

>attempt to resolve the controversy, endorsed by the African National Congress

>[AIDS Dissidents/'Denialists' and AIDS Apologists/Orthodoxy]

>http://www.polity.org.za/govdocs/reports/aids/aidspanel.htm

>

>

>

>REBUTTAL TO DURBAN DECLARATION http://thedurbandeclaration.org/

>

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>HEAL [Health Education AIDS Liason] 

>http://www.healtoronto.com

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>ANOTHER LOOK [breastfeeding and 'HIV/AIDS']

>http://www.anotherlook.org

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>MOMM [Mothers Opposing Mandatory Medicine]

>http://www.informedmomm.com

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>AIDS MYTH EXPOSED

>[Largest AIDS forum on MSN] http://www.aidsmythexposed.com

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>V I R U S M Y T H

>[Largest AIDS forum on Delphi] http://forums.delphiforums.com/innocuous

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