Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 SORCHA FAAL: BIRD FLU NOW IN NORTH AMERICA http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=79490 Posted By: monk <Send E-Mail> Saturday, 1 October 2005, 1:44 p.m. Ok...I read her links...and they check out. Is her Proposition supposition? BUT Sorcha (or should I say the sisters Sorcha). ties up a few knots. BUT For comparison! ---- http://www.thenewmexicochannel.com/news/5044488/detail.html UNMH Doctor Says Deadly Bird Flu No Threat To U.S. Yet ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. -- An official with the World Health Organization said as many as 150 million people could die because of the bird flu virus in Asia. The agency is now trying to calm fears of a pandemic. ....................... Dr. Gary Overturf, at the University of New Mexico Hospital, said there is no immediate concern in the United States. Should the virus spread to the country, then we need worry, said Overturf. The deadly strain of bird flu is currently ravaging parts of Asia. Public health officials said mutation is a sign of the bird flu. When that occurs, said doctors, the possibility of human transmission is very high. " The mortality rates in human populations have been huge because they essentially jump species in a single bound, if you will, and as a result, we have no immunity to these viruses at all and so the deaths that occur could be in the millions -- the multiple millions, " said Overturf. Currently, the flu is found in ducks, chicken, geese and other birds. It is spread to humans by close contact with those animals. AND http://www.qctimes.net/articles/2005/10/01/opinion/letters/doc433e16f5448da97423\ 1501.txt Bird flu bigger threat than hurricanes By Dan Tawney, Davenport As America is transfixed by Katrina's and Rita's horrible devastation, a much deadlier disaster looms. Avian influenza, or bird flu, is growing into a global epidemic deadlier than the 1918 Spanish flu, which killed 50 million people. The deadly virus originated a couple of years ago in Southeast Asia's poultry farms, killing dozens of people throughout the region, and has already spread to Russia and Europe. Millions of Americans are expected to succumb once the virus mutates to allow transmission among humans. Avian influenza is but the latest disease spawned by animal agriculture. The 1918 Spanish flu, the 1957 Asian flu, the 1968 Hong Kong flu, and SARS originated in factory farms. --------- HERE " S THE DOWN AND DIRTY ON THE BLU FLU FROM SCIENTISTS Check out that 3 to 5 day incubation thing..Man you could be sick and spreading it..BEFORE you even know you have it!! wow! ------- http://www.da.gov.ph/updates/bird_flu_04.html Bird Flu or Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza Bird flu or Avian Influenza, is a contagious disease of animals caused by viruses that normally infect only birds and, less commonly, pigs. While all bird species are thought to be susceptible to infection, domestic poultry flocks are especially vulnerable to infections that can rapidly reach epidemic proportions. ETIOLOGY Classification of the causative agent Virus family Orthomyxoviridae, genus Influenzavirus A, B. To date, all highly pathogenic isolates have been influenza A viruses of subtypes H5 and H7 Resistance to physical and chemical action Temperature : Inactivated by 56oC/3 hours; 60oC/30 min. pH : Inactivated by acid pH Chemicals : Inactivated by oxidising agents, sodium dodecyl sulphate, lipid solvents, B-propiolactone Disinfectants : Inactivated by formalin and iodine compounds Survival : Remains viable for long periods in tissues, feces and also in water EPIDEMIOLOGY . Highly contagious Hosts . Highly pathogenic avian influenza isolates have been obtained primarily from chickens and turkeys . It is reasonable to assume all avian species are susceptible to infection Transmission . Direct contact with secretions from infected birds, excretion especially feces . Contaminated feed, water, equipment and clothing . Clinically normal waterfowl and sea birds may introduce the virus into flocks . Broken contaminated eggs may infect chicks in the incubator Sources of Virus . Feces, respiratory secretions . Highly pathogenic viruses may remain viable for long period of time in infected feces, tissues and water. Occurrence Apathogenic and mildly pathogenic influenza A viruses occur worldwide. Highly pathogenic avian influenza A (HPAI) viruses of the H5 and H7 HA subtypes have been isolated occasionally from free-living birds in Europe and elsewhere. Outbreaks due to HPAI were recorded in Pennsylvania, USA in the years 1983-1984. More recent outbreaks have occurred in Australia, Pakistan and Mexico. There is evidence that H5 viruses of low pathogenicity may mutate and become highly pathogenic. HPAI infections are very rarely seen, and should not be confused with viruses of low pathogenicity, which may also be of H5 or H7 subtypes. DIAGNOSES Incubation period is 3-5 days Clinical diagnosis . Severe depression, inappetence . Drastic decline in egg production . Facial edema with swollen and cyanotic combs and wattles . Petechial hemorrhages on internal membrane surfaces . Sudden deaths (mortality can reach 100%) . Virus isolation needed for definitive diagnosis Lesions Chickens . Lesions may be absent in cases of sudden death . Severe congestion of the musculature . Dehydration . Substaneous edema of the head and neck area . Severe congestion of conjunctiva, sometimes with petechia . Excessive mucous exudate in the lumen of the trachea, or severe haemorrhagic tracheitis . Petechia on the inside of the sternum, on the serosa and abdominal fat, serosal surfaces and in the body cavity . Severe kidney congestion, sometimes with urate deposits in the tubules . Hemorrhages and degeneration of the ovary . Hemorrhages on the mucosal surface of the proventriculus, particularly at the juncture with the gizzard . Hemorrhages and erosions of the gizzard lining . Hemorrhagic foci on the lymphoid tissues in the intestinal mucosa The lesions in turkeys are similar to those in chickens, but may not be as marked. Ducks infected with HPAI and excreting the virus, may not show any clinical signs or lesions. Differential diagnosis . Acute fowl cholera . Velogenic Newcastle disease . Infectious laryngotracheitis . Infectious Bronchitis .............................. TREATMENT No specific treatment Sanitary prophylaxis a. Avoidance of contact between poultry and wild birds, particularly waterfowl b. Avoidance of the introduction of birds of unkown health status into a flock c. Control of human traffic - Now From My Girls Sorcha...(Hey come to think of it..David Booths statement that Sorcha is a Posting name for a BUNCH of sisters....my chances for a Dinner Date with a woman has skyrocketed! THERE IS HOPE! lol) Posted In full with Permission Monk --------------------------- http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index831.htm October 1, 2005 Bird Flu Outbreaks Reported In United States and Canada, Toronto Hospitals Begin Quarantine Lockdown as Canadian and American Authorities Order News Blackout, Bio-Virus Released In Washington D.C. By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Russian Subscribers Russian Intelligence Services are reporting today that Bird Flu Outbreaks have begun occurring in both the United States and Canada and to which the Military Authorities in both countries have ordered a news 'blackout' due to rising fears of panic and hording among their citizens. Reports from Canada show that hospitals in Toronto have begun necessary quarantine procedures, and as we can read as reported by Canada's AM640 News Service in their article titled " A Toronto Hospital Facing Possible Outbreak " and which says, " A Toronto hospital is apparently under partial quarantine in fear of a respiratory outbreak. There are reports that 2 people were admitted to Scarborough General Hospital with an unknown respiratory illness. As a result, the triage and emergency departments are apparently under semi-quarantine. " Reports from the United States are showing that in their Region of Michigan, which is adjacent to Canada, another likely outbreak has occurred, and as we can read as reported by the WDIV Television News Service in their article titled " No School While Mystery Illness Probe Continues " and which says, " A high school that was forced to evacuate twice this week when more than a dozen students mysteriously became ill is closed Friday. Extra-curricular activities scheduled at other locations will take place Friday, but no events will be held at Saline High School, Local 4 reported. Crews ran more tests at the high school overnight in an ongoing investigation to determine the cause of the students' illness. The illness has been traced to two classrooms located on different floors and opposite sides of the building, Local 4 reported. " The events occurring in these Western Countries are exactly mirroring those of Asia and Russia where the first to die are birds, then fish, then mammals then human beings, and as we had previously reported on this bird flu is also killing dogs, and as we can read as reported by the News4Jax News Service in their article titled " Mysterious Dog Flu Beginning To Hit Pets In Florida " and which says: " A puzzling outbreak of respiratory disease in dogs has been tracked to a virus that has infected horses for decades -- a transfer researchers say is usually rare, but is now being seen in pet dogs. The illness first drew attention sweeping through kennels of racing greyhounds in several states and has also been found in household dogs in Florida and New York. The flu kills between 5 percent and 8 percent of infected dogs, Dr. Cynda Crawford of the University of Florida College of Veterinary Medicine said at a briefing Monday. Some dogs get a cough, runny nose and fever while others show no symptoms at all. The flu can cause symptoms similar to the common illness known as kennel cough, Crawford said. But kennel cough is usually caused by a bacteria while the new illness is caused by a virus. " But not to 'puzzling' is this Bird Flu Pandemic, now including the Americas, but rather to the reasons for these Western Governments not warning their people to the direness of these events is what is more puzzling, even to the warnings being issued by the UN they are ignoring, and as we can read as reported by the Associated Press News Service in their article titled " New Flu Pandemic Could Kill 150 Million " and which says: " A top U.N. public health expert warned Thursday that a new influenza pandemic could come anytime and claim millions of lives unless officials to take action now to control an epidemic in Asia. Dr. David Nabarro of the World Health Organization called on governments to take immediate steps to address the threat at a news conference following his appointment as the new U.N. coordinator to lead a global drive to counter a human flu pandemic. " We expect the next influenza pandemic to come at any time now, and it's likely to be caused by a mutant of the virus that is currently causing bird flu in Asia, " he said. " These events also coincide with the bio-terror events occurring during this past weeks war protests in Washington D.C., and to which the Military Leaders were not going to release this information to their citizens until both Russian and Chinese Embassies stated they would release it, as these Embassies have bio-sensor capabilities also, and as we can read as reported the Washington Post News Service in their article titled " Biohazard Sensors Triggered " and which says: " Biohazard sensors showed the presence of small amounts of potentially dangerous tularemia bacteria in the Mall area last weekend as huge crowds assembled there, but health officials said they believed the levels were too low to be a threat. Health authorities in the Washington area were notified yesterday that the bacteria were found in and near the area between the U.S. Capitol and the Lincoln Memorial, where crowds gathered Saturday for an antiwar rally and a book festival. The notification, which came from federal health officials, said that after the initial detection, subsequent tests " supported the presence of low levels " of the bacteria. " Russian Scientists however dispute the 'bacterial' nature of this bio-release among hundreds of thousands of war protesters, stating instead that the attacking agent was 'viral in nature'. As we have all too often seen, and today is no different, the masses of these Western people are both unaware of these events themselves, but more importantly are unknowing as to why these events are occurring and how they are leading to their total subjugation. As their Military Leaders perpetuate the myths that social chaos will ensue as both natural catastrophes and this violent Bird Flu Pandemic reshape their entire world, some of their own leading researchers are trying to warn them, and as we can read as reported by the Chronicle Review News Service in their article titled " Disaster Sociologists Study What Went Wrong in the Response to the Hurricanes, but Will Policy Makers Listen? " and which says: " The panic myth is a consistent one, " said Russell R. Dynes, a professor emeritus of sociology at Delaware, who was among the founders, in 1963, of the Disaster Research Center at Ohio State University. " The idea of social breakdown -- I'm even pretty damn skeptical of that, " he said. " One of the problems here is TV. If you take a film clip and you run it for five hours, you create a notion that something's happening. " In 40 years of disaster research, Mr. Dynes said, he and his colleagues have found very few instances of true social breakdown. " But not to the path of sanity and truth are the Military Leaders of the United States leading their people, but rather to the path of totalitarian fascist rule are they being led, and as we can read as reported by the American Social Commentator Alan Bock in his essay titled " Posse Comitatus: Remembering Why " and which says: " President Bush, showing in full bloom the instincts that make it clear that whatever he is politically he is not a conservative of the traditional limited-government or Constitutionalist variety, has lofted a trial balloon to promote the idea of having the military play a more extensive, earlier and perhaps even primary role in handling future disasters. The fact that he has mentioned it more than once, and that press secretary Scott McClellan has discussed both that idea and the idea of bypassing governors when disaster strikes, suggests that the notion is not just something that popped into his head on the spur of the moment. Posse Comitatus is a Latin phrase that sounds obscure to most people, so it might not seem like a big thing to amend the act to make it easier to deploy the military in essentially civilian duties. But it is a big thing. The president's call to consider changes so far seems to have had little resonance, as have earlier calls. But the president is a stubborn man who sometimes confuses stubbornness with integrity or commitment to principle. " Today marks yet another milestone in the continuing demise of the once great peoples of the United States, but perhaps even more shocking is that their destruction is occurring due to their own neglect and ignorance of what is truly happening in the world today. © October 1, 2005, EU and US all rights reserved. Got some ideas you'd like to add to this line of thinking? If so... Register to post at Bring 'em On! - then Log in and Bring 'em On!!! Messages In This Thread a.. SORCHA FAAL: BIRD FLU NOW IN NORTH AMERICA *PIC* (views: 826) monk -- Saturday, 1 October 2005, 1:44 p.m. a.. LADY A WITH A SHOCKING CANADIAN EYEWITNESS REPORT (views: 681) monk -- Saturday, 1 October 2005, 7:15 p.m. a.. FLU REMEDY (views: 27) monk -- Sunday, 2 October 2005, 3:04 a.m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 In reading the hysteria and hype about this " flu " , I wonder just what is being aimed at here. What are the deaths numbered at so far.......... '000,000s........ '00s,..... '0s,...... or single digit figures? I just cannot get my head around the idea that these viri [uses]? that we are surrounded by, are so busily " mutating " every second of every day, into something so 'pandemically virulent', that the whole human race is in danger. My goodness - if all the viri [uses] currently on the face of this planet were engaged in 'mutating' at a great rate of knots, SURELY the human race would have been wiped out by now - as, indeed, would ALL living animals, as there would be no immunity in anything alive to a new virus!!! And then I read a post by John Perna .. 10/02/05, entitled " The origin of AIDS " , and I asked my wife who has worked in a lab for some 30 years - pathology - about her view on this. She agreed with the article posted - namely that cross-species viral transmission is at best an impossibility, at worst, an improbability .... unless the viral mechanism OR the host structure has been tampered with. So just what is the purpose of all this scaremongering??? Perhaps it is on the same level as " Global Warming " , and telling us that a 0.5 degree rise in atmospheric temperature can cause an ocean current which is ... what .... some 2 - 3 km deep and 100s of km wide to increase in temperature to the extent that it stops doing what it is supposed to do???? [Ever tried to heat a pot of water with a hair dryer????] .... same principle....! As for Polar icecaps receding.... it seems that NASA has witnessed a similar event on Mars .... but that planet has no atmosphere carfrying the residue of 'gas guzzlers' and industrial output!!!! Wonder if the Sun and its activity has something to do with this??????? So.... unless I am mistaken, this is lining us up for more controls and rigid laws and ramifications just as came in the wake of that memorable event a fortnight before the September equinox!!! Regards Jorge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 I'm inclined to think like Jorge....so am in agreement!........bigpond,net,,,where might this be lol....brendaJorge Roshkov <jroshkov wrote: In reading the hysteria and hype about this "flu", I wonder just what isbeing aimed at here.What are the deaths numbered at so far..........'000,000s........ '00s,..... '0s,...... or single digit figures?I just cannot get my head around the idea that these viri [uses]? that weare surrounded by, are so busily "mutating" every second of every day, intosomething so 'pandemically virulent', that the whole human race is indanger.My goodness - if all the viri [uses] currently on the face of this planetwere engaged in 'mutating' at a great rate of knots, SURELY the human racewould have been wiped out by now - as, indeed, would ALL living animals, asthere would be no immunity in anything alive to a new virus!!!And then I read a post by John Perna .. 10/02/05, entitled "The origin ofAIDS", and I asked my wife who has worked in a lab for some 30 years -pathology - about her view on this.She agreed with the article posted - namely that cross-species viraltransmission is at best an impossibility, at worst, an improbability ....unless the viral mechanism ORthe host structure has been tampered with.So just what is the purpose of all this scaremongering???Perhaps it is on the same level as "Global Warming", and telling us that a0.5 degree rise in atmospheric temperature can cause an ocean current whichis ... what .... some 2 - 3 km deep and 100s of km wide to increase intemperature to the extent that it stops doing what it is supposed to do????[Ever tried to heat a pot of water with a hair dryer????]... same principle....!As for Polar icecaps receding.... it seems that NASA has witnessed a similarevent on Mars .... but that planet has no atmosphere carfrying the residueof 'gas guzzlers' and industrial output!!!!Wonder if the Sun and its activity has something to do with this???????So.... unless I am mistaken, this is lining us up for more controls andrigid laws and ramifications just as came in the wake of that memorableevent a fortnight before the September equinox!!!RegardsJorgeAlways in the service of our Father. Brenda Joyce for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 au - Australia .... Queensland in actual fact. We have just had our "safety" increased by the ptb passing new laws which make it illegal : [a] for us to talk about te...........sm not to look out for any aspects which may be in any way shape or form related to te.....sm [c] mentioning any reference to the te.........m factor or b...bs at an airport and we are daily instructed in the media to look out for ANY event which may be related, and call a special no. My parents came to this country some 56 yrs ago because they were escaping from the very things that we are now dutifully bound to watch out for and report!!! As for the statement I made, I think that there has been a very solid and serious spin developed to take our minds of the lies that have been rammed down our throats from the Sep 11 event, following Gulf 1, to the current status of our countries. Having read 1984 - and the misinformation that was perpetrated upon the populace, it is easy to see that we are in fact 21 years behind the actual book. Regards Jorge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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