Health care for Vets ; THIS IS HOW THEY VOTED

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U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 109th Congress - 1st Session as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate Vote Summary uestion: On the Motion (Motion to Waive Sec. 402, S. Con. Res. 95 (108th) "Emergency designation" Re: Murray Amdt. No. 344, As Modified ) Vote Number: 89 Vote April 12, 2005, 03:26 PM Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Motion Rejected Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 344 to to H.R. 1268 (Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Tsunami Relief, 2005 ) Statement of Purpose: To provide $1,975,183,000 for medical care for veterans. ALL DEMOCRATS VOTED YES Grouped By Vote Position YEAs ---46 Akaka (D-HI) Baucus (D-MT) Bayh (D-IN) Biden (D-DE) Bingaman (D-NM) Boxer (D-CA) Byrd (D-WV) Cantwell (D-WA) Carper (D-DE) Clinton (D-NY) Conrad (D-ND) Corzine (D-NJ) Dayton (D-MN) Dodd (D-CT) Dorgan (D-ND) Durbin (D-IL) Feingold (D-WI) Feinstein (D-CA) Harkin (D-IA) Inouye (D-HI) Jeffords (I-VT) Johnson (D-SD) Kennedy (D-MA) Kerry (D-MA) Kohl (D-WI) Landrieu (D-LA) Lautenberg (D-NJ) Leahy (D-VT) Levin (D-MI) Lieberman (D-CT) Lincoln (D-AR) Mikulski (D-MD) Murray (D-WA) Nelson (D-FL) Nelson (D-NE) Obama (D-IL) Pryor (D-AR) Reed (D-RI) Reid (D-NV) Rockefeller (D-WV) Salazar (D-CO) Sarbanes (D-MD) Schumer (D-NY) Specter (R-PA) only republican to vote yes Stabenow (D-MI) Wyden (D-OR) ALL REPUBLICANS VOTED NO MONEY FOR VETS HEALTHCARE...NAYs ---54 Alexander (R-TN) Allard (R-CO) Allen (R-VA) Bennett (R-UT) Bond (R-MO) Brownback (R-KS) Bunning (R-KY) Burns (R-MT) Burr (R-NC) Chafee (R-RI) Chambliss (R-GA) Coburn (R-OK) Cochran (R-MS) Coleman (R-MN) Collins (R-ME) Cornyn (R-TX) Craig (R-ID) Crapo (R-ID) DeMint (R-SC) DeWine (R-OH) Dole (R-NC) Domenici (R-NM) Ensign (R-NV) Enzi (R-WY) Frist (R-TN) Graham (R-SC) Grassley (R-IA) Gregg (R-NH) Hagel (R-NE) Hatch (R-UT) Hutchison (R-TX) Inhofe (R-OK) Isakson (R-GA) Kyl (R-AZ) Lott (R-MS) Lugar (R-IN) Martinez (R-FL) McCain (R-AZ) McConnell (R-KY) Murkowski (R-AK) Roberts (R-KS) Santorum (R-PA) Sessions (R-AL) Shelby (R-AL) Smith (R-OR) CALL YOUR SENATORS AND Snowe (R-ME) NEWSPAPERS AND TV NOW. Stevens (R-AK) DEMAND AN ANSWER. Sununu (R-NH) Talent (R-MO) Thomas (R-WY) Thune (R-SD) Vitter (R-LA) Voinovich (R-OH) Warner (R-VA)

 

[Guest guest]

Well, here is some wry reasoning:

 

The Democrats want to continue the war by saying yes to health care

for those Americans involved in that " war. " If the medical

establishment will " fix " those men, and keep them from death, then the

men will keep signing up for more tours of duty. " Ah go on. If you

break something, then we will fix it. " The Republicans on the other

hand, its not just that they want the war to end, in opposition to the

Dems, but they just flat out don't care one way or the other. They are

not going to spend perfectly good money on something as ludicrous as

health care for vets, injured and sick vets. Vets who are sick from

handling depleted uranium ammunition. Sheesh. C'mon, if they start

spending money on em this early, then the vets will already have

established the rationale for health care for their wives (who got

radioactive sperm) and children that have genetic damage from that same

radioactive, damaged, sperm. So, this just puts off and what is

delayed and not spent now can used for something else, like finding

another people to pollute and kill with the depleted uranium

ammunition. And if they don't find that people, well, they can always

give it another corporation that the Republican, read neo-conservative,

party represents. They represent corporations rather than people.

Corporations don't die. Only people.

 

Ed

 

Not really tongue in cheek about the republicans.

 

 

On May 4, 2005, at 3:43 PM, luckypig wrote:

 

>

> U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 109th Congress - 1st Session

> as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the

> direction of the Secretary of the Senate

> Vote Summary

> uestion: On the Motion (Motion to Waive Sec. 402, S. Con. Res. 95

> (108th) " Emergency designation " Re: Murray Amdt. No. 344, As Modified

> )

> Vote Number: 89 Vote April 12, 2005, 03:26 PM

> Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Motion Rejected

> Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 344 to to H.R. 1268 (Emergency Supplemental

> Appropriations Act for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Tsunami

> Relief, 2005 )

>

> Statement of Purpose: To provide $1,975,183,000 for medical care for

> veterans.

>

> ALL DEMOCRATS VOTED YES

> Grouped By Vote Position YEAs ---46

> Akaka (D-HI)

> Baucus (D-MT)

> Bayh (D-IN)

> Biden (D-DE)

> Bingaman (D-NM)

> Boxer (D-CA)

> Byrd (D-WV)

> Cantwell (D-WA)

> Carper (D-DE)

> Clinton (D-NY)

> Conrad (D-ND)

> Corzine (D-NJ)

> Dayton (D-MN)

> Dodd (D-CT)

> Dorgan (D-ND)

> Durbin (D-IL)

> Feingold (D-WI)

> Feinstein (D-CA)

> Harkin (D-IA)

> Inouye (D-HI)

> Jeffords (I-VT)

> Johnson (D-SD)

> Kennedy (D-MA)

> Kerry (D-MA)

> Kohl (D-WI)

> Landrieu (D-LA)

> Lautenberg (D-NJ)

> Leahy (D-VT)

> Levin (D-MI)

> Lieberman (D-CT)

> Lincoln (D-AR)

> Mikulski (D-MD)

> Murray (D-WA)

> Nelson (D-FL)

> Nelson (D-NE)

> Obama (D-IL)

> Pryor (D-AR)

> Reed (D-RI)

> Reid (D-NV)

> Rockefeller (D-WV)

> Salazar (D-CO)

> Sarbanes (D-MD)

> Schumer (D-NY)

> Specter (R-PA) only republican to vote yes

> Stabenow (D-MI)

> Wyden (D-OR)

>

> ALL REPUBLICANS VOTED NO MONEY FOR VETS HEALTHCARE...NAYs ---54

> Alexander (R-TN)

> Allard (R-CO)

> Allen (R-VA)

> Bennett (R-UT)

> Bond (R-MO)

> Brownback (R-KS)

> Bunning (R-KY)

> Burns (R-MT)

> Burr (R-NC)

> Chafee (R-RI)

> Chambliss (R-GA)

> Coburn (R-OK)

> Cochran (R-MS)

> Coleman (R-MN)

> Collins (R-ME)

> Cornyn (R-TX)

> Craig (R-ID)

> Crapo (R-ID)

> DeMint (R-SC)

> DeWine (R-OH)

> Dole (R-NC)

> Domenici (R-NM)

> Ensign (R-NV)

> Enzi (R-WY)

> Frist (R-TN)

> Graham (R-SC)

> Grassley (R-IA)

> Gregg (R-NH)

> Hagel (R-NE)

> Hatch (R-UT)

> Hutchison (R-TX)

> Inhofe (R-OK)

> Isakson (R-GA)

> Kyl (R-AZ)

> Lott (R-MS)

> Lugar (R-IN)

> Martinez (R-FL)

> McCain (R-AZ)

> McConnell (R-KY)

> Murkowski (R-AK)

> Roberts (R-KS)

> Santorum (R-PA)

> Sessions (R-AL)

> Shelby (R-AL)

> Smith (R-OR) CALL YOUR SENATORS AND

> Snowe (R-ME) NEWSPAPERS AND TV NOW.

> Stevens (R-AK) DEMAND AN ANSWER.

> Sununu (R-NH)

> Talent (R-MO)

> Thomas (R-WY)

> Thune (R-SD)

> Vitter (R-LA)

> Voinovich (R-OH)

> Warner (R-VA)

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--- It's worse than just DU ammo Ed the plates in their body armor

are DU the armor plate on the M1 Abrams and the M3 Bradley are also

made out of DU so their shoot up a bunker then they move out of

their DU vehicles and into the DU bunker the whole while wearing the

DU as armor

sheez! no wonder they piss radiation

 

 

In , Ed Siceloff <siceloff@e...>

wrote:

> Well, here is some wry reasoning:

>

> The Democrats want to continue the war by saying yes to health

care

> for those Americans involved in that " war. " If the medical

> establishment will " fix " those men, and keep them from death, then

the

> men will keep signing up for more tours of duty. " Ah go on. If

you

> break something, then we will fix it. " The Republicans on the

other

> hand, its not just that they want the war to end, in opposition to

the

> Dems, but they just flat out don't care one way or the other.

They are

> not going to spend perfectly good money on something as ludicrous

as

> health care for vets, injured and sick vets. Vets who are sick

from

> handling depleted uranium ammunition. Sheesh. C'mon, if they

start

> spending money on em this early, then the vets will already have

> established the rationale for health care for their wives (who

got

> radioactive sperm) and children that have genetic damage from that

same

> radioactive, damaged, sperm. So, this just puts off and what is

> delayed and not spent now can used for something else, like

finding

> another people to pollute and kill with the depleted uranium

> ammunition. And if they don't find that people, well, they can

always

> give it another corporation that the Republican, read neo-

conservative,

> party represents. They represent corporations rather than

people.

> Corporations don't die. Only people.

>

> Ed

>

> Not really tongue in cheek about the republicans.

>

>

> On May 4, 2005, at 3:43 PM, luckypig wrote:

>

> >

> > U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 109th Congress - 1st Session

> > as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under

the

> > direction of the Secretary of the Senate

> > Vote Summary

> > uestion: On the Motion (Motion to Waive Sec. 402, S. Con. Res.

95

> > (108th) " Emergency designation " Re: Murray Amdt. No. 344, As

Modified

> > )

> > Vote Number: 89 Vote April 12, 2005, 03:26 PM

> > Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Motion Rejected

> > Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 344 to to H.R. 1268 (Emergency

Supplemental

> > Appropriations Act for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and

Tsunami

> > Relief, 2005 )

> >

> > Statement of Purpose: To provide $1,975,183,000 for medical care

for

> > veterans.

> >

> > ALL DEMOCRATS VOTED YES

> > Grouped By Vote Position YEAs ---46

> > Akaka (D-HI)

> > Baucus (D-MT)

> > Bayh (D-IN)

> > Biden (D-DE)

> > Bingaman (D-NM)

> > Boxer (D-CA)

> > Byrd (D-WV)

> > Cantwell (D-WA)

> > Carper (D-DE)

> > Clinton (D-NY)

> > Conrad (D-ND)

> > Corzine (D-NJ)

> > Dayton (D-MN)

> > Dodd (D-CT)

> > Dorgan (D-ND)

> > Durbin (D-IL)

> > Feingold (D-WI)

> > Feinstein (D-CA)

> > Harkin (D-IA)

> > Inouye (D-HI)

> > Jeffords (I-VT)

> > Johnson (D-SD)

> > Kennedy (D-MA)

> > Kerry (D-MA)

> > Kohl (D-WI)

> > Landrieu (D-LA)

> > Lautenberg (D-NJ)

> > Leahy (D-VT)

> > Levin (D-MI)

> > Lieberman (D-CT)

> > Lincoln (D-AR)

> > Mikulski (D-MD)

> > Murray (D-WA)

> > Nelson (D-FL)

> > Nelson (D-NE)

> > Obama (D-IL)

> > Pryor (D-AR)

> > Reed (D-RI)

> > Reid (D-NV)

> > Rockefeller (D-WV)

> > Salazar (D-CO)

> > Sarbanes (D-MD)

> > Schumer (D-NY)

> > Specter (R-PA) only republican to vote yes

> > Stabenow (D-MI)

> > Wyden (D-OR)

> >

> > ALL REPUBLICANS VOTED NO MONEY FOR VETS HEALTHCARE...NAYs ---54

> > Alexander (R-TN)

> > Allard (R-CO)

> > Allen (R-VA)

> > Bennett (R-UT)

> > Bond (R-MO)

> > Brownback (R-KS)

> > Bunning (R-KY)

> > Burns (R-MT)

> > Burr (R-NC)

> > Chafee (R-RI)

> > Chambliss (R-GA)

> > Coburn (R-OK)

> > Cochran (R-MS)

> > Coleman (R-MN)

> > Collins (R-ME)

> > Cornyn (R-TX)

> > Craig (R-ID)

> > Crapo (R-ID)

> > DeMint (R-SC)

> > DeWine (R-OH)

> > Dole (R-NC)

> > Domenici (R-NM)

> > Ensign (R-NV)

> > Enzi (R-WY)

> > Frist (R-TN)

> > Graham (R-SC)

> > Grassley (R-IA)

> > Gregg (R-NH)

> > Hagel (R-NE)

> > Hatch (R-UT)

> > Hutchison (R-TX)

> > Inhofe (R-OK)

> > Isakson (R-GA)

> > Kyl (R-AZ)

> > Lott (R-MS)

> > Lugar (R-IN)

> > Martinez (R-FL)

> > McCain (R-AZ)

> > McConnell (R-KY)

> > Murkowski (R-AK)

> > Roberts (R-KS)

> > Santorum (R-PA)

> > Sessions (R-AL)

> > Shelby (R-AL)

> > Smith (R-OR) CALL YOUR SENATORS AND

> > Snowe (R-ME) NEWSPAPERS AND TV NOW.

> > Stevens (R-AK) DEMAND AN ANSWER.

> > Sununu (R-NH)

> > Talent (R-MO)

> > Thomas (R-WY)

> > Thune (R-SD)

> > Vitter (R-LA)

> > Voinovich (R-OH)

> > Warner (R-VA)

> >  

> >

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[Guest guest]

Although I was mistaken in what all is DU, the point remains the same

and may well be how they are thinking. One of the things I do is try

to tell people not to join the military. From my own point of view,

why would anybody want to fight to support a government that represents

corporations rather than the people who live here. And the government

acts as though those people in the military are entirely expendable.

Only people not expendable are those in the act of " governing. "

No wonder they are considering nuclear energy again. They now have

somewhere they can get rid of the waste. Not safely, but ditch it on

another company while we wage war on their people.

 

Ed

 

On May 4, 2005, at 7:28 PM, madcowcoverup wrote:

 

> ---  It's worse than just DU ammo Ed the plates in their body armor

> are DU the armor plate on the M1 Abrams and the M3 Bradley are also

> made out of DU so their shoot up a bunker then they move out of

> their DU vehicles and into the DU bunker the whole while wearing the

> DU as armor

> sheez! no wonder they piss radiation

>

>

> In , Ed Siceloff <siceloff@e...>

> wrote:

> > Well, here is some wry reasoning:

> >

> >    The Democrats want to continue the war by saying yes to health

> care 

> > for those Americans involved in that " war. "   If the medical 

> > establishment will " fix " those men, and keep them from death, then

> the 

> > men will keep signing up for more tours of duty.  " Ah go on.  If

> you 

> > break something, then we will fix it. "   The Republicans on the

> other 

> > hand, its not just that they want the war to end, in opposition to

> the 

> > Dems, but they just flat out don't care one way or the other. 

> They are 

> > not going to spend perfectly good money on something as ludicrous

> as 

> > health care for vets, injured and sick vets.  Vets who are sick

> from 

> > handling depleted uranium ammunition.  Sheesh.  C'mon, if they

> start 

> > spending money on em this early, then the vets will already have 

> > established the rationale for health care for their wives (who

> got 

> > radioactive sperm) and children that have genetic damage from that

> same 

> > radioactive, damaged, sperm.  So, this just puts off and what is 

> > delayed and not spent now can used for something else, like

> finding 

> > another people to pollute and kill with the depleted uranium 

> > ammunition.  And if they don't find that people, well, they can

> always 

> > give it another corporation that the Republican, read neo-

> conservative, 

> > party represents.    They represent corporations rather than

> people.  

> > Corporations don't die.  Only people.

> >

> > Ed

> >

> > Not really tongue in cheek about the republicans.

> >

> >

> > On May 4, 2005, at 3:43 PM, luckypig wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 109th Congress - 1st Session

> > > as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under

> the 

> > > direction of the Secretary of the Senate

> > > Vote Summary

> > >  uestion: On the Motion (Motion to Waive Sec. 402, S. Con. Res.

> 95 

> > > (108th) " Emergency designation " Re: Murray Amdt. No. 344, As

> Modified 

> > > )

> > > Vote Number: 89 Vote April 12, 2005, 03:26 PM

> > >  Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Motion Rejected

> > > Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 344 to to H.R. 1268 (Emergency

> Supplemental 

> > > Appropriations Act for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and

> Tsunami 

> > > Relief, 2005 )

> > >

> > > Statement of Purpose: To provide $1,975,183,000 for medical care

> for 

> > > veterans.

> > >

> > >  ALL DEMOCRATS VOTED YES

> > > Grouped By Vote Position YEAs ---46

> > > Akaka (D-HI)

> > > Baucus (D-MT)

> > > Bayh (D-IN)

> > > Biden (D-DE)

> > >  Bingaman (D-NM)

> > > Boxer (D-CA)

> > > Byrd (D-WV)

> > > Cantwell (D-WA)

> > >  Carper (D-DE)

> > > Clinton (D-NY)

> > > Conrad (D-ND)

> > > Corzine (D-NJ)

> > >  Dayton (D-MN)

> > > Dodd (D-CT)

> > > Dorgan (D-ND)

> > > Durbin (D-IL)

> > >  Feingold (D-WI)

> > > Feinstein (D-CA)

> > > Harkin (D-IA)

> > > Inouye (D-HI)

> > >  Jeffords (I-VT)

> > > Johnson (D-SD)

> > > Kennedy (D-MA)

> > > Kerry (D-MA)

> > >  Kohl (D-WI)

> > > Landrieu (D-LA)

> > > Lautenberg (D-NJ)

> > > Leahy (D-VT)

> > >  Levin (D-MI)

> > > Lieberman (D-CT)

> > > Lincoln (D-AR)

> > > Mikulski (D-MD)

> > >  Murray (D-WA)

> > > Nelson (D-FL)

> > > Nelson (D-NE)

> > > Obama (D-IL)

> > > Pryor (D-AR)

> > > Reed (D-RI)

> > > Reid (D-NV)

> > > Rockefeller (D-WV)

> > > Salazar (D-CO)

> > >  Sarbanes (D-MD)

> > > Schumer (D-NY)

> > > Specter (R-PA) only republican to vote yes

> > > Stabenow (D-MI)

> > > Wyden (D-OR)

> > >

> > > ALL REPUBLICANS VOTED NO MONEY FOR VETS HEALTHCARE...NAYs ---54

> > > Alexander (R-TN)

> > > Allard (R-CO)

> > >  Allen (R-VA)

> > > Bennett (R-UT)

> > > Bond (R-MO)

> > > Brownback (R-KS)

> > >  Bunning (R-KY)

> > > Burns (R-MT)

> > > Burr (R-NC)

> > > Chafee (R-RI)

> > >  Chambliss (R-GA)

> > > Coburn (R-OK)

> > > Cochran (R-MS)

> > > Coleman (R-MN)

> > >  Collins (R-ME)

> > > Cornyn (R-TX)

> > > Craig (R-ID)

> > > Crapo (R-ID)

> > >  DeMint (R-SC)

> > > DeWine (R-OH)

> > > Dole (R-NC)

> > > Domenici (R-NM)

> > >  Ensign (R-NV)

> > > Enzi (R-WY)

> > > Frist (R-TN)

> > > Graham (R-SC)

> > >  Grassley (R-IA)

> > > Gregg (R-NH)

> > > Hagel (R-NE)

> > > Hatch (R-UT)

> > >  Hutchison (R-TX)

> > > Inhofe (R-OK)

> > > Isakson (R-GA)

> > > Kyl (R-AZ)

> > >  Lott (R-MS)

> > > Lugar (R-IN)

> > > Martinez (R-FL)

> > > McCain (R-AZ)

> > >  McConnell (R-KY)

> > > Murkowski (R-AK)

> > > Roberts (R-KS)

> > > Santorum (R-PA)

> > >  Sessions (R-AL)

> > > Shelby (R-AL)

> > > Smith (R-OR) CALL YOUR SENATORS AND

> > >  Snowe (R-ME) NEWSPAPERS AND TV NOW.

> > > Stevens (R-AK) DEMAND AN ANSWER.

> > >  Sununu (R-NH)

> > > Talent (R-MO)

> > > Thomas (R-WY)

> > > Thune (R-SD)

> > >  Vitter (R-LA)

> > > Voinovich (R-OH)

> > > Warner (R-VA)

> > >   

> > >

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> be 

> > > news related, purely speculation or someone's opinion. Always

> consult 

> > > with a qualified health practitioner before deciding on any

> course of 

> > > treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses.

> > >  **COPYRIGHT NOTICE**

> > >  In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107,

> > >  any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair

> use 

> > > without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior

> interest 

> > > in receiving the included information for non-profit research

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---Hi Ed

of course those guys are expendable the gubment takes a life

insurance policy out on each one for 10 million if they die the

family gets 600k while the tyrants profit to the tune of 9.4 million

actually they are worth more dead than alive, I was at my kids HS

ther other day and a young buck just out of basic was there as a

recruiter and I asked him " how's it going guinea pig " then explained

the SHAD project to him, boy was he mad to learn he was injected

with radioactive material, hope he has a bad attitude now

 

In , Ed Siceloff <siceloff@e...>

wrote:

> Although I was mistaken in what all is DU, the point remains the

same

> and may well be how they are thinking. One of the things I do is

try

> to tell people not to join the military. From my own point of

view,

> why would anybody want to fight to support a government that

represents

> corporations rather than the people who live here. And the

government

> acts as though those people in the military are entirely

expendable.

> Only people not expendable are those in the act of " governing. "

> No wonder they are considering nuclear energy again. They now

have

> somewhere they can get rid of the waste. Not safely, but ditch it

on

> another company while we wage war on their people.

>

> Ed

>

> On May 4, 2005, at 7:28 PM, madcowcoverup wrote:

>

> > ---  It's worse than just DU ammo Ed the plates in their body

armor

> > are DU the armor plate on the M1 Abrams and the M3 Bradley are

also

> > made out of DU so their shoot up a bunker then they move out of

> > their DU vehicles and into the DU bunker the whole while

wearing the

> > DU as armor

> > sheez! no wonder they piss radiation

> >

> >

> > In , Ed Siceloff

<siceloff@e...>

> > wrote:

> > > Well, here is some wry reasoning:

> > >

> > >    The Democrats want to continue the war by saying yes to

health

> > care 

> > > for those Americans involved in that " war. "   If the medical 

> > > establishment will " fix " those men, and keep them from death,

then

> > the 

> > > men will keep signing up for more tours of duty.  " Ah go on. 

If

> > you 

> > > break something, then we will fix it. "   The Republicans on the

> > other 

> > > hand, its not just that they want the war to end, in

opposition to

> > the 

> > > Dems, but they just flat out don't care one way or the other. 

> > They are 

> > > not going to spend perfectly good money on something as

ludicrous

> > as 

> > > health care for vets, injured and sick vets.  Vets who are

sick

> > from 

> > > handling depleted uranium ammunition.  Sheesh.  C'mon, if they

> > start 

> > > spending money on em this early, then the vets will already

have 

> > > established the rationale for health care for their wives (who

> > got 

> > > radioactive sperm) and children that have genetic damage from

that

> > same 

> > > radioactive, damaged, sperm.  So, this just puts off and what

is 

> > > delayed and not spent now can used for something else, like

> > finding 

> > > another people to pollute and kill with the depleted uranium 

> > > ammunition.  And if they don't find that people, well, they

can

> > always 

> > > give it another corporation that the Republican, read neo-

> > conservative, 

> > > party represents.    They represent corporations rather than

> > people.  

> > > Corporations don't die.  Only people.

> > >

> > > Ed

> > >

> > > Not really tongue in cheek about the republicans.

> > >

> > >

> > > On May 4, 2005, at 3:43 PM, luckypig wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 109th Congress - 1st Session

> > > > as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk

under

> > the 

> > > > direction of the Secretary of the Senate

> > > > Vote Summary

> > > >  uestion: On the Motion (Motion to Waive Sec. 402, S. Con.

Res.

> > 95 

> > > > (108th) " Emergency designation " Re: Murray Amdt. No. 344, As

> > Modified 

> > > > )

> > > > Vote Number: 89 Vote April 12, 2005, 03:26 PM

> > > >  Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Motion Rejected

> > > > Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 344 to to H.R. 1268 (Emergency

> > Supplemental 

> > > > Appropriations Act for Defense, the Global War on Terror,

and

> > Tsunami 

> > > > Relief, 2005 )

> > > >

> > > > Statement of Purpose: To provide $1,975,183,000 for medical

care

> > for 

> > > > veterans.

> > > >

> > > >  ALL DEMOCRATS VOTED YES

> > > > Grouped By Vote Position YEAs ---46

> > > > Akaka (D-HI)

> > > > Baucus (D-MT)

> > > > Bayh (D-IN)

> > > > Biden (D-DE)

> > > >  Bingaman (D-NM)

> > > > Boxer (D-CA)

> > > > Byrd (D-WV)

> > > > Cantwell (D-WA)

> > > >  Carper (D-DE)

> > > > Clinton (D-NY)

> > > > Conrad (D-ND)

> > > > Corzine (D-NJ)

> > > >  Dayton (D-MN)

> > > > Dodd (D-CT)

> > > > Dorgan (D-ND)

> > > > Durbin (D-IL)

> > > >  Feingold (D-WI)

> > > > Feinstein (D-CA)

> > > > Harkin (D-IA)

> > > > Inouye (D-HI)

> > > >  Jeffords (I-VT)

> > > > Johnson (D-SD)

> > > > Kennedy (D-MA)

> > > > Kerry (D-MA)

> > > >  Kohl (D-WI)

> > > > Landrieu (D-LA)

> > > > Lautenberg (D-NJ)

> > > > Leahy (D-VT)

> > > >  Levin (D-MI)

> > > > Lieberman (D-CT)

> > > > Lincoln (D-AR)

> > > > Mikulski (D-MD)

> > > >  Murray (D-WA)

> > > > Nelson (D-FL)

> > > > Nelson (D-NE)

> > > > Obama (D-IL)

> > > > Pryor (D-AR)

> > > > Reed (D-RI)

> > > > Reid (D-NV)

> > > > Rockefeller (D-WV)

> > > > Salazar (D-CO)

> > > >  Sarbanes (D-MD)

> > > > Schumer (D-NY)

> > > > Specter (R-PA) only republican to vote yes

> > > > Stabenow (D-MI)

> > > > Wyden (D-OR)

> > > >

> > > > ALL REPUBLICANS VOTED NO MONEY FOR VETS HEALTHCARE...NAYs --

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> > > > Alexander (R-TN)

> > > > Allard (R-CO)

> > > >  Allen (R-VA)

> > > > Bennett (R-UT)

> > > > Bond (R-MO)

> > > > Brownback (R-KS)

> > > >  Bunning (R-KY)

> > > > Burns (R-MT)

> > > > Burr (R-NC)

> > > > Chafee (R-RI)

> > > >  Chambliss (R-GA)

> > > > Coburn (R-OK)

> > > > Cochran (R-MS)

> > > > Coleman (R-MN)

> > > >  Collins (R-ME)

> > > > Cornyn (R-TX)

> > > > Craig (R-ID)

> > > > Crapo (R-ID)

> > > >  DeMint (R-SC)

> > > > DeWine (R-OH)

> > > > Dole (R-NC)

> > > > Domenici (R-NM)

> > > >  Ensign (R-NV)

> > > > Enzi (R-WY)

> > > > Frist (R-TN)

> > > > Graham (R-SC)

> > > >  Grassley (R-IA)

> > > > Gregg (R-NH)

> > > > Hagel (R-NE)

> > > > Hatch (R-UT)

> > > >  Hutchison (R-TX)

> > > > Inhofe (R-OK)

> > > > Isakson (R-GA)

> > > > Kyl (R-AZ)

> > > >  Lott (R-MS)

> > > > Lugar (R-IN)

> > > > Martinez (R-FL)

> > > > McCain (R-AZ)

> > > >  McConnell (R-KY)

> > > > Murkowski (R-AK)

> > > > Roberts (R-KS)

> > > > Santorum (R-PA)

> > > >  Sessions (R-AL)

> > > > Shelby (R-AL)

> > > > Smith (R-OR) CALL YOUR SENATORS AND

> > > >  Snowe (R-ME) NEWSPAPERS AND TV NOW.

> > > > Stevens (R-AK) DEMAND AN ANSWER.

> > > >  Sununu (R-NH)

> > > > Talent (R-MO)

> > > > Thomas (R-WY)

> > > > Thune (R-SD)

> > > >  Vitter (R-LA)

> > > > Voinovich (R-OH)

> > > > Warner (R-VA)

> > > >   

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