to your health

September 2, 2003

hello all,

my first question:

i am on lorazepam 1mg, propranolol 20mg 3 times a day for many

years. it is for anxiety problems i am having for over 20 years!!

i'm starting to get a feeling i'm more addicted to the drugs thanthe

actual anxiety. have tried to stop very gradual, but failed due to

very uncomfortable withdrawing feelings. i have to tell you i react

very strong to changes in mind and body, very sensitive. i also

have a big history of alcohol abuse that i'm taking care of. this

could have been the sole reason for my anxiety i believe. i eat

good, juice eat fruit and veggies, some raw. sport, run, cycle,

swim, i can say that i am fit for my 42 years. i'm trying to get off

the meds and maybe find a new way of feeling good/better. i'm doing

ok, but i'm sure things can be better than this. no smoking, no

caffeine, no booze, where should i start..........

i know this is not just one question and a simple answer situation,

but maybe you have some pointers to where is a good place to start.

any advice, comments are welcome. thanks for listening, rik

September 3, 2003

First I would recommend you to order free cassette lecture from Doc. the owner of this list.

You will know what to do then.

Jasmina

September 3, 2003

Dear Rik,

I'm sorry no one responded to you. Probably they were hoping someone

else who had something that would be useful to you would.

I'm sure if people felt they had something that would be helpful to say

they would say it.

First of all- contact Dr. Ian Shillington referred to here as " Doc "

privately. he wil send you a tape cassette and offer you a complimentary

phone consultation.

My opinion:

I think it's FABULOUS that you are looking for a way to get off the

medication and to do whatever it takes to really have full health and

wellness.

I am a holistic life coach and aromatherapist, also 42, and I stopped

using (drugs/alcohol) 18 years ago. Also at work on curing myself of a

disease- HepC without drugs. My life and my work are all about having a

balanced, fulfilling life- naturally...holistically- not only for myself.

You must remember you can't simply treat symptoms or take away a

substance...there must be balance and working from the inside- out as

well as the outside-in. You also want to set yourself up to WIN ;-) That

means support and balance- looking at all of who you are.

Congratulations for all you have done...and all you are striving for!!

It's POSSIBLE. YES. There is a way....but it will require patience and

commitment and lot's of little steps a day at a time.

Start with Doc's help.

Love,

Elizabeth

There will always be dreams grander or humbler than your own, but there

will never be a dream exactly like your own.

On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, at 01:07 PM, Rik wrote:

> i find it very strange that no one is responding to my post. i also

> wonder if this has a reason?? if so, tell me. are these the " wrong "

> questions perhaps for on this group? i would appreciate it if

> someone could tell me something about this. thanks, rik

>

> herbal remedies , " Rik " <bliksemskater>

> wrote:

> > hello all,

> > my first question:

> > i am on lorazepam 1mg, propranolol 20mg 3 times a day for many

> > years. it is for anxiety problems i am having for over 20 years!!

> > i'm starting to get a feeling i'm more addicted to the drugs

> thanthe

> > actual anxiety. have tried to stop very gradual, but failed due

> to

> > very uncomfortable withdrawing feelings. i have to tell you i

> react

> > very strong to changes in mind and body, very sensitive. i also

> > have a big history of alcohol abuse that i'm taking care of. this

> > could have been the sole reason for my anxiety i believe. i eat

> > good, juice eat fruit and veggies, some raw. sport, run, cycle,

> > swim, i can say that i am fit for my 42 years. i'm trying to get

> off

> > the meds and maybe find a new way of feeling good/better. i'm

> doing

> > ok, but i'm sure things can be better than this. no smoking, no

> > caffeine, no booze, where should i start..........

> >

> > i know this is not just one question and a simple answer

> situation,

> > but maybe you have some pointers to where is a good place to

> start.

> > any advice, comments are welcome. thanks for listening, rik

>

September 3, 2003

Rik see my answers below.

> > my first question:> > i am on lorazepam 1mg, propranolol 20mg 3 times a day for many> > years. it is for anxiety problems i am having for over 20 years!! > > i'm starting to get a feeling i'm more addicted to the drugs> thanthe > > actual anxiety. have tried to stop very gradual, but failed due> to> > very uncomfortable withdrawing feelings. i have to tell you i> react> > very strong to changes in mind and body, very sensitive. i also > > have a big history of alcohol abuse that i'm taking care of. this> > could have been the sole reason for my anxiety i believe.

Have you or are you going to AA? the reason I ask is that it is a good place to help deal with alcohol abuse and the strong reactions are also from the pas alcohol... (I am married to an ex-al now for 20 years...) I would suggest this even though you have quit... you need a support group.

i eat> > good, juice eat fruit and veggies, some raw. sport, run, cycle,> > swim, i can say that i am fit for my 42 years. i'm trying to get> off > > the meds and maybe find a new way of feeling good/better. i'm> doing > > ok, but i'm sure things can be better than this. no smoking, no> > caffeine, no booze, where should i start.....with Doc's tape and a call to him to discuss getting off the meds and.with a total cleansing.....> > > > i know this is not just one question and a simple answer> situation, > > but maybe you have some pointers to where is a good place to> start.> > any advice, comments are welcome. thanks for listening, rik>