Dry eyes, nose, & mouth...need help, please!

[Guest guest]

DOC??? ANYONE????? any suggestions???

 

 

herbal remedies , " reiki3gal " <myrna1947>

wrote:

> Hello All...really do need some sound advice or clue as to how to

> deal with this problem.

>

> It started back in April & has gotten pretty bad, especially my

eyes.

> Very red all the time, scratchy & they hurt. Use drops several

times

> a day....nasal passages & mouth very dry also. Have been chewing

> sugarless gum & sucking mints to keep mouth moist.

>

> I asked my doctor [internist] & she " doesn't know " what's

> wrong...said I could get plugs for eyes to keep them moistened!!!

> Didn't mention mouth or nasal dryness! NO opinion on " why or what "

> the cause might be!

>

> I had to take PREVPAC prescription back in April for H. Pylori

> bacteria & that is when this started...Dr. says there is no

> connection, but I wonder...did the 'scrip kill good, as well as bad

> bacteria & could that cause this problem?

>

> In case it did...A nutritionist suggested probiotics [live

> acidophalus] which I started last week; no change yet...also

> taking " fructooligosaccharides " Nutra Flora to promote growth of

> healthy bacteria & Udo's Omega 3's Oil capsules.

>

> Any suggestions or clues that might lead me to a diagnosis &

> permanent solution would be MUCH appreciated.

>

> Thanks & Blessings

[Guest guest]

For your information... i would stop the fructo.......... and do a cleanse.... I think your liver may be trying to tell you something.....A phone call to Doc might just be in order also.

Please read this:

 

Avoid Probiotics with FOS

"Fructooligosaccharides, more commonly known as FOS, is a class of simple carbohydrates found naturally in certain plants, such as Jerusalem artichokes, onions, and bananas. Virtually, all of the FOS added to probiotic products in the United States is chemically manufactured. A Japanese process is utilized in turning white, bleached cane sugar, by the action of a fungal enzyme, into FOS - a sugar polymer that our bodies cannot digest.

"FOS, know in Japan as Meioligo and in scientific terms as neosugar, is used as a sweetening agent, flavor enhancer, bulking agent, and humectant. As a low-calorie sucrose-replacement, FOS is used in cookies, cakes, breads, candies, dairy products, and some beverages. FOS is also added to some Japanese health foods to promote the growth of beneficial bacteria in the gastrointestinal tract.

"In 1990, Coors Biotech, in an effort to introduce FOS into the food chain of the United States, prepared a GRAS (generally recognized as safe) petition to include FOS as a human food ingredient. As several years of FOS-safe food sales are needed before this approval, the probiotic market was chosen as an easy, nonthreatening way to get the product 'out there.' The health food industry became an ideal test market.

"The addition of FOS in probiotic products is becoming a common practice. Many probiotic manufacturers claim FOS is beneficial in that it feeds friendly bacteria. Those who manufacture high-quality probiotics, however, do not believe in using FOS. Instead, their products require one important component - the valuable supernatant, which naturally and specifically provides food for the bacteria.

"Prudent probiotic manufacturers are concerned with the safety issue of FOS. According to a study conducted by the Joint Expert Committee on Food Additives (JECFA) of the Food and Agricultural Organization and World Health Organization (FAO/WHO), the consumption of FOS may cause intestinal problems, such as bloating, abdominal pain, and copious amounts of gas.

"There are a number of additional reasons why some manufacturers of high-quality probiotics do not add FOS to their products. They are:

 

"FOS is manufactured by chemical synthesis. The ingredient is, therefore, not natural, but a chemical additive and may pose toxicological dangers.

"FOS is a sugar derivative, therefore, those with a yeast infection should avoid it.

"The stability of FOS is poor. The industrial production of purified FOS is a problem and still in the developmental stage.

"FOS is inert in the mouth and small intestine because it is not digestible (similar to olestra). It is digested in the colon by the bacteria and may, therefore, change the metabolic activity of the colon, resulting in abnormal functions.

"FOS stimulates the growth of Klebsiella and possibly other pathogenic organisms. In one study, Klebsiella has been associated with the autoimmune disease ankylosing spondylitis.

"FOS is known to be species as well as strain specific. In other words, not all beneficial bacteria like the FOS diet."

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzie,

 

Too weird! Was told to include FOS to rebuild " good

bacteria " ...following the PREVPAC prescription I also had to take

another antibiotic for bacteria in lower colon & another medicine for

yeast there also!...all this following a stool specimen analysis,

cleanse, & blood work. I imagine I had pretty much killed everything

in there...good & bad...so, took the FOS & acidophilus!

 

As to your other post & Wendy's comment...Sjogrens has been ruled

out, no arthritis. Do not sit in front of computer or strain eyes in

any way, all day. Mild allergies to some pollens in spring & some

chemical sensitivity. Re: food & supplements...have not changed

eating pattern & have taken same basic supplements for years.

 

Was taking prescription Clonazepam [which can cause dryness] but have

been off it for several months & no change is evident. I do take an

aspirin a day plus extra Folic Acid & B vitamins for heart problem &

previous stroke...other than than no ongoing prescription meds.

 

I did have Tissue Mineral Analysis done through hair sampling & the

only thing obvious there was very high Strontium [NOT Strontium

90...elemental Strontium] level which is effecting my calcium

utilization...the doctor who ordered this & the stool tests is a

clinical pathologist [previous medical & lab director of SmithKline

Beecham Labs, as well as being an enviormental medicine specialist.

He also does not know how or why this " dryness " came on so suddenly...

 

I have racked my brain & can think of no other contributing factors

that may be accountable for this problem...I sure do appreciate your

input & the information you provided re: FOS...will stop that

immediately.

 

Many thanks

 

herbal remedies , Suzanne <suziesgoats>

wrote:

> For your information... i would stop the fructo.......... and do a

cleanse.... I think your liver may be trying to tell you

something.....A phone call to Doc might just be in order also.

> Please read this:

>

> Avoid Probiotics with FOS

>

> " Fructooligosaccharides, more commonly known as FOS, is a class of

simple carbohydrates found naturally in certain plants, such as

Jerusalem artichokes, onions, and bananas. Virtually, all of the FOS

added to probiotic products in the United States is chemically

manufactured. A Japanese process is utilized in turning white,

bleached cane sugar, by the action of a fungal enzyme, into FOS - a

sugar polymer that our bodies cannot digest.

>

> " FOS, know in Japan as Meioligo and in scientific terms as

neosugar, is used as a sweetening agent, flavor enhancer, bulking

agent, and humectant. As a low-calorie sucrose-replacement, FOS is

used in cookies, cakes, breads, candies, dairy products, and some

beverages. FOS is also added to some Japanese health foods to promote

the growth of beneficial bacteria in the gastrointestinal tract.

>

> " In 1990, Coors Biotech, in an effort to introduce FOS into the

food chain of the United States, prepared a GRAS (generally

recognized as safe) petition to include FOS as a human food

ingredient. As several years of FOS-safe food sales are needed before

this approval, the probiotic market was chosen as an easy,

nonthreatening way to get the product 'out there.' The health food

industry became an ideal test market.

>

> " The addition of FOS in probiotic products is becoming a common

practice. Many probiotic manufacturers claim FOS is beneficial in

that it feeds friendly bacteria. Those who manufacture high-quality

probiotics, however, do not believe in using FOS. Instead, their

products require one important component - the valuable supernatant,

which naturally and specifically provides food for the bacteria.

>

> " Prudent probiotic manufacturers are concerned with the safety

issue of FOS. According to a study conducted by the Joint Expert

Committee on Food Additives (JECFA) of the Food and Agricultural

Organization and World Health Organization (FAO/WHO), the consumption

of FOS may cause intestinal problems, such as bloating, abdominal

pain, and copious amounts of gas.

>

> " There are a number of additional reasons why some manufacturers of

high-quality probiotics do not add FOS to their products. They are:

>

> " FOS is manufactured by chemical synthesis. The ingredient is,

therefore, not natural, but a chemical additive and may pose

toxicological dangers.

> " FOS is a sugar derivative, therefore, those with a yeast

infection should avoid it.

> " The stability of FOS is poor. The industrial production of

purified FOS is a problem and still in the developmental stage.

> " FOS is inert in the mouth and small intestine because it is not

digestible (similar to olestra). It is digested in the colon by the

bacteria and may, therefore, change the metabolic activity of the

colon, resulting in abnormal functions.

> " FOS stimulates the growth of Klebsiella and possibly other

pathogenic organisms. In one study, Klebsiella has been associated

with the autoimmune disease ankylosing spondylitis.

> " FOS is known to be species as well as strain specific. In other

words, not all beneficial bacteria like the FOS diet. "

 

>

>

[Guest guest]

Try the Panther Piss every day. What kind of drops are you using? The more you use over the counter the dryer your eyes will get. Drink lots of clean water and up your fruit intake. No salt for a while. Aloe vera juice would be a good added supplement to your diet as well.

 

Janet

 

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reiki3gal

herbal remedies

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:23 PM

[herbal remedies] Dry eyes, nose, & mouth...need help, please!

Hello All...really do need some sound advice or clue as to how to deal with this problem.It started back in April & has gotten pretty bad, especially my eyes. Very red all the time, scratchy & they hurt. Use drops several times a day....nasal passages & mouth very dry also. Have been chewing sugarless gum & sucking mints to keep mouth moist. I asked my doctor [internist] & she "doesn't know" what's wrong...said I could get plugs for eyes to keep them moistened!!! Didn't mention mouth or nasal dryness! NO opinion on "why or what" the cause might be!I had to take PREVPAC prescription back in April for H. Pylori bacteria & that is when this started...Dr. says there is no connection, but I wonder...did the 'scrip kill good, as well as bad bacteria & could that cause this problem?In case it did...A nutritionist suggested probiotics [live acidophalus] which I started last week; no change yet...also taking "fructooligosaccharides" Nutra Flora to promote growth of healthy bacteria & Udo's Omega 3's Oil capsules.Any suggestions or clues that might lead me to a diagnosis & permanent solution would be MUCH appreciated.Thanks & BlessingsFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

The drops are very mild I'm told - 0.2% hydrxpropyl methycellulose -

lubricant...no preservatives or other ingredients. I will try cutting

them out or use only once in the A.M. when it is so bad.

 

I'll get the ingredients for panther piss tomorrow. I drink 1/2 my

weight in ounces of water a day, but do not eat much fruit. Lots of

veggies, but never been a big fruit person...other than apples in the

fall :-) I do use 1/2 a banana on my Kashi cereal, but will try to

eat more. I do have Aloe Vera juice & will start that as well.

 

thanks for the info & tips, Myrna

 

 

 

herbal remedies , " Dragonhealer "

<dragonhealing@c...> wrote:

> Try the Panther Piss every day. What kind of drops are you using?

The more you use over the counter the dryer your eyes will get. Drink

lots of clean water and up your fruit intake. No salt for a while.

Aloe vera juice would be a good added supplement to your diet as well.

>

> Janet

> -

> reiki3gal

> herbal remedies

> Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:23 PM

> [herbal remedies] Dry eyes, nose, & mouth...need help,

please!

>

>

> Hello All...really do need some sound advice or clue as to how to

> deal with this problem.

>

> It started back in April & has gotten pretty bad, especially my

eyes.

> Very red all the time, scratchy & they hurt. Use drops several

times

> a day....nasal passages & mouth very dry also. Have been chewing

> sugarless gum & sucking mints to keep mouth moist.

>

> I asked my doctor [internist] & she " doesn't know " what's

> wrong...said I could get plugs for eyes to keep them moistened!!!

> Didn't mention mouth or nasal dryness! NO opinion on " why or

what "

> the cause might be!

>

> I had to take PREVPAC prescription back in April for H. Pylori

> bacteria & that is when this started...Dr. says there is no

> connection, but I wonder...did the 'scrip kill good, as well as

bad

> bacteria & could that cause this problem?

>

> In case it did...A nutritionist suggested probiotics [live

> acidophalus] which I started last week; no change yet...also

> taking " fructooligosaccharides " Nutra Flora to promote growth of

> healthy bacteria & Udo's Omega 3's Oil capsules.

>

> Any suggestions or clues that might lead me to a diagnosis &

> permanent solution would be MUCH appreciated.

>

> Thanks & Blessings

>

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>

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