Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 Whether to pus or not to pus, that is the question. 'Tis better to drink what? Why do we drink milk anyway. There is no animal on the face of this earth that continues to drink milk after weaning. Why do we? Probably because of the brainwashing over the decades that we need the calcium. Well, calcium from milk is not very usable by the human body. It is much better to use certified organic apple cider vinegar with certified organic chicken eggs floating in it: ergo - the Lemon Egg formula found in the files. Much better form of calcium with a whole lot less chemicals and crap that comes from antibiotics, rBGH, hormones injections, etc. Better yet is to eat the vegetables (certified organic) that are high in calcium (not always practical). From a food and nutritional standpoint, milk and dairy products are not good for the human body. They are extremely mucus forming when ingested thus plugging us up from the cellular level on up to whole systems. So why take the chance? There are so many other fluids that can be drunk which are much better for our bodies, nutritionally speaking, and much more refreshing and satisfying. Want better milk, get everyone you know everywhere to stop using dairy products. Create the proverbial avalanche. When the dairy industry begins losing millions or billions because no one will buy their toxic products anymore then they will begin to listen to those who keep them in business, you the consumer. Mega-conglomerates tend to forget who put them where they are. They tend to prefer to listen to the almighty buck instead. Greed and only greed is the root of all evil. It really is time to begin the humbling process of the agri-pharmo-medico mega-conglomeration. One little snowball will become a landslide if pushed in the right direction. Every boycott begins with the self. Educate yourself, take your health into your own hands, take your life back and eventually the tide will begin to turn. My two cents worth anyway, Don Quai ---- herbal remedies 21. July 2003 09:44:30 AM herbal remedies Re: [herbal remedies] PUS IS IN MILK Talk about out dated...? I must be... What is outmoded? And, I don't know what sub-literate would be, but I can get a little paranoid and ramble on when ever I see so much proof that the government does allow so many things... I personally don't know if the pus in milk thing is fact. I have never done any scientific studies on it... THAT'S WHY I'M ON THIS BOARD. THERE ARE ALOT OF REALLY INTELLIGENT PEOPLE ON IT. But, the mastitis thing sounds logical...could be my outmoded, not able to think for myself, rambling though....sigh... Angel All incoming and outgoing scanned with NAV for both our protection. - Susan Van Allen herbal remedies Sunday, July 20, 2003 10:23 PM Re: [herbal remedies] PUS IS IN MILK This is insane. What complete and utter rot - and you are all swallowing it whole. I was under the impression that at least a few people on this list were marginally well-educated, or at least capable of thinking for themselves.Having watched this thread, though, it's obvious I was mistaken. I signed up for this list in order to expand my own base of knowledge and this is what you offer now?I leave you to your out-dated, outmoded ideas, sub-literate paranoid ramblings and "Doc's" sexist, lowbrow attempts at humor.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 Brian, what you say is true, but Don is not far off either. There are many who are lactose intolerant, most likely from genetic background, but who just don't know it. Also, Don does have a point when it comes to age. As we get older (stop growing), we just don't need it as much. I take no dairy whatsoever due to its mucus forming properties, and never miss it. I will eat a raw egg once in a while, but this has been misnamed a "dairy product". I do eat meat 3 or 4 times a week in small quantites, but it is always organic, and I know the source of it personally. The key words here are "certified organic". I can't say this enough times. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - antman herbal remedies Wednesday, May 21, 2003 2:08 PM Re: [herbal remedies] PUS IS IN MILK Don, I had fallen for such arguments, but no more. There were times and places where the principle food of populations was from the udder and where no processed foods were ingested and where these populations experienced superior health. I can and will, if needed, give various examples, but one example will suffice for now. Consider Iceland. There was a time in the recent past when tooth decay was virtually unknown in Iceland. Many degenerative conditions were also unheard of. These people experienced superlative health in an isolated place where weather conditions do not easily support much vegetative diversity. Icelanders virtually ate no fruits or vegetables. The cereal grain that would grow well enough there became their main vegetative food, oats. But Icelanders' chief food was styr, a yogurt like cheese made from cows milk or more commonly from sheep's milk. Rather than show that milk is a food not suitable for human consumption, history is filled with countless examples to the contrary. Yet there is milk being sold that does not have the right to be called such. That is the grain feed lot produced, chemicalized, homogenized, and pasteurized stuff that is making us deathly ill. Let us not confuse apples with oranges, so to speak. We should not confuse that stuff with real milk, which has sustained and invigorated Europeans, Africans, and Asians for millennia. Yes, the corporate conglomerates are a big problem. But THE answer is not that we do not drink milk, but that we do not drink their milk--just as herbal freedom does not consist of simply not taking toxic pharmaceutical drugs, but in rather producing and using our own herbs. There had been, I believe, a campaign to industrialize milk production by demonizing individual production of milk. The goat is an excellent animal to provide this amazingly healthful food to individual families, especially dwarf milk varieties. Yes, there are various people who may be better off consuming no milk products, but that does not logically follow that no one should. Corporate interests have convinced the public that only their foods and drugs are fit for consumption. We must produce our own health. Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 --- Anjeweleyes <anjewelhaze wrote: > Re: [herbal remedies] PUS IS IN MILKTalk about out > dated...? > I must be... > What is outmoded? > And, I don't know what sub-literate would be, but I > can get a little paranoid and ramble on when ever I > see so much proof that the government does allow so > many things... > I personally don't know if the pus in milk thing is > fact. I have never done any scientific studies on > it... > THAT'S WHY I'M ON THIS BOARD. THERE ARE ALOT OF > REALLY INTELLIGENT PEOPLE ON IT. > But, the mastitis thing sounds logical...could be my > outmoded, not able to think for myself, rambling > though....sigh... > > Angel I keep asking myself, " so what? " so there is pus in milk, that seems a given. So what? There is pus in my nose and I swallow the gunk daily. My body produces and reabsorbs pus constantly. I personally don't drink milk, but that is simply because I see no health benefit in it that I cannot get from less-processed more natural methods. But again, so what? ===== John Ybarra We are free to evade the effort of thinking, to reject reason, but we are not free to avoid the penalty of the abyss we refuse to see. SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 Bad lady all gone Zeb *hugs* hehee! Janet - Zeb Sims herbal remedies Cc: svanalle Sunday, July 20, 2003 10:02 PM Re: [herbal remedies] PUS IS IN MILK Dear Susan, I couldn't believe this either but I did a very basic search on Google.com and found several other areas of information regarding this. Like it or not it seems to be an issue. We here in Herbal Remedies take up any subject that betters our lives and leaves us more informed that when we left. You do not have to like the facts and/or "Doc" but that is your problem. Looks like you came to the exact right place but cannot handle the data being presented to you for your benefit. Point being made: Don't knock those trying to help, there isn't enough of it these days. I thought it a load of crap also until I did my own search. I also believe in "what's true for you is true for you." So if it's not true for you FINE, but don't knock those willing to look at unpleasant facts and relate them and come up with workable solutions. Doc is great! boy I ought to... anyway... Lay off the good guys will you! Zeb - Susan Van Allen herbal remedies Sunday, July 20, 2003 8:23 PM Re: [herbal remedies] PUS IS IN MILK This is insane. What complete and utter rot - and you are all swallowing it whole. I was under the impression that at least a few people on this list were marginally well-educated, or at least capable of thinking for themselves.Having watched this thread, though, it's obvious I was mistaken. I signed up for this list in order to expand my own base of knowledge and this is what you offer now?I leave you to your out-dated, outmoded ideas, sub-literate paranoid ramblings and "Doc's" sexist, lowbrow attempts at humor.Good day. Enjoy.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 --- Zeb Sims <zeb wrote: > Re: [herbal remedies] PUS IS IN MILKDear Susan, > > I couldn't believe this either but I did a very > basic search on Google.com and found several other > areas of information regarding this. Like it or not > it seems to be an issue. We here in Herbal Remedies > take up any subject that betters our lives and > leaves us more informed that when we left. You do > not have to like the facts and/or " Doc " but that is > your problem. Looks like you came to the exact > right place but cannot handle the data being > presented to you for your benefit. > > Point being made: Don't knock those trying to > help, there isn't enough of it these days. I > thought it a load of crap also until I did my own > search. I also believe in " what's true for you is > true for you. " So if it's not true for you FINE, > but don't knock those willing to look at unpleasant > facts and relate them and come up with workable > solutions. Doc is great! boy I ought to... > anyway... > > Lay off the good guys will you! > > Zeb I heard about this issue several months ago. I live in " dairy country " , so I have access to those in the know. I asked them about the pus issue, and they said, " yeah, and???? " It appears to be common knowledge among dairy farmers that there is pus. The only issue seems to be the health effects of it. ===== John Ybarra We are free to evade the effort of thinking, to reject reason, but we are not free to avoid the penalty of the abyss we refuse to see. SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 Yeahhh!!! Time to move on. Pass me a beer will ya??? ) Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - John Ybarra herbal remedies Monday, July 21, 2003 4:37 PM Re: [herbal remedies] PUS IS IN MILK I keep asking myself, "so what?" so there is pus inmilk, that seems a given. So what? There is pus in mynose and I swallow the gunk daily. My body producesand reabsorbs pus constantly. I personally don't drinkmilk, but that is simply because I see no healthbenefit in it that I cannot get from less-processedmore natural methods. But again, so what?=====John Ybarra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 Errrrrrrrrrrr, this is a joke. LOL Ummmmmmmmmm, except for the moving on part ;o) Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - Dr. Ian Shillington herbal remedies Monday, July 21, 2003 4:49 PM Re: [herbal remedies] PUS IS IN MILK Yeahhh!!! Time to move on. Pass me a beer will ya??? ) Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - John Ybarra herbal remedies Monday, July 21, 2003 4:37 PM Re: [herbal remedies] PUS IS IN MILK I keep asking myself, "so what?" so there is pus inmilk, that seems a given. So what? There is pus in mynose and I swallow the gunk daily. My body producesand reabsorbs pus constantly. I personally don't drinkmilk, but that is simply because I see no healthbenefit in it that I cannot get from less-processedmore natural methods. But again, so what?=====John Ybarra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 Yeah, she gettin a lil note from me though MUWAHAHAHA *running from Suzi* Janet - Suzanne herbal remedies Monday, July 21, 2003 5:33 AM Re: [herbal remedies] PUS IS IN MILK Zeb, Sorry she already left... SuziZeb Sims <zeb wrote: Dear Susan, I couldn't believe this either but I did a very basic search on Google.com and found several other areas of information regarding this. Like it or not it seems to be an issue. We here in Herbal Remedies take up any subject that betters our lives and leaves us more informed that when we left. You do not have to like the facts and/or "Doc" but that is your problem. Looks like you came to the exact right place but cannot handle the data being presented to you for your benefit. Point being made: Don't knock those trying to help, there isn't enough of it these days. I thought it a load of crap also until I did my own search. I also believe in "what's true for you is true for you." So if it's not true for you FINE, but don't knock those willing to look at unpleasant facts and relate them and come up with workable solutions. Doc is great! boy I ought to... anyway... Lay off the good guys will you! Zeb - Susan Van Allen herbal remedies Sunday, July 20, 2003 8:23 PM Re: [herbal remedies] PUS IS IN MILK This is insane. What complete and utter rot - and you are all swallowing it whole. I was under the impression that at least a few people on this list were marginally well-educated, or at least capable of thinking for themselves.Having watched this thread, though, it's obvious I was mistaken. I signed up for this list in order to expand my own base of knowledge and this is what you offer now?I leave you to your out-dated, outmoded ideas, sub-literate paranoid ramblings and "Doc's" sexist, lowbrow attempts at humor.Good day. Enjoy.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 ROTFL ~ Janet - Zeb Sims herbal remedies Monday, July 21, 2003 7:07 AM Re: [herbal remedies] PUS IS IN MILK It's OK, I CC'd her personal email address. I wanted everyone to see what I had written and for her to get the communication also. *smile* Zeb - Suzanne herbal remedies Monday, July 21, 2003 5:33 AM Re: [herbal remedies] PUS IS IN MILK Zeb, Sorry she already left... SuziFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 I get the hint, I know I probably say too much sometimes, but it's just the idea of nasty people...and, I was trying to be as tactful as I could... And, again, so what! But, this is just one of my worst habits... Sorry that you kind souls have to see this stuff sometimes...mine and theirs! And, then again, Mr. John...I may swallow my own, but I don't want anyone or anything else's, and at the very least, I want to know when I am...lol Angel All incoming and outgoing scanned with NAV for both our protection. I keep asking myself, "so what?" so there is pus inmilk, that seems a given. So what? There is pus in mynose and I swallow the gunk daily. My body producesand reabsorbs pus constantly. I personally don't drinkmilk, but that is simply because I see no healthbenefit in it that I cannot get from less-processedmore natural methods. But again, so what?=====John Ybarra We are free to evade the effort of thinking, to reject reason, but we are not free to avoid the penalty of the abyss we refuse to see.SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!http://sbc.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 YAAAAHHH!! Zeb - Dragonhealer herbal remedies Monday, July 21, 2003 3:41 PM Re: [herbal remedies] PUS IS IN MILK Bad lady all gone Zeb *hugs* hehee! Janet - Zeb Sims herbal remedies Cc: svanalle Sunday, July 20, 2003 10:02 PM Re: [herbal remedies] PUS IS IN MILK Dear Susan, I couldn't believe this either but I did a very basic search on Google.com and found several other areas of information regarding this. Like it or not it seems to be an issue. We here in Herbal Remedies take up any subject that betters our lives and leaves us more informed that when we left. You do not have to like the facts and/or "Doc" but that is your problem. Looks like you came to the exact right place but cannot handle the data being presented to you for your benefit. Point being made: Don't knock those trying to help, there isn't enough of it these days. I thought it a load of crap also until I did my own search. I also believe in "what's true for you is true for you." So if it's not true for you FINE, but don't knock those willing to look at unpleasant facts and relate them and come up with workable solutions. Doc is great! boy I ought to... anyway... Lay off the good guys will you! Zeb - Susan Van Allen herbal remedies Sunday, July 20, 2003 8:23 PM Re: [herbal remedies] PUS IS IN MILK This is insane. What complete and utter rot - and you are all swallowing it whole. I was under the impression that at least a few people on this list were marginally well-educated, or at least capable of thinking for themselves.Having watched this thread, though, it's obvious I was mistaken. I signed up for this list in order to expand my own base of knowledge and this is what you offer now?I leave you to your out-dated, outmoded ideas, sub-literate paranoid ramblings and "Doc's" sexist, lowbrow attempts at humor.Good day. Enjoy.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 Heck where is Kim with the gin and lime???? Suzi"Dr. Ian Shillington" <Dr.IanShillington wrote: Yeahhh!!! Time to move on. Pass me a beer will ya??? ) Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - John Ybarra herbal remedies Monday, July 21, 2003 4:37 PM Re: [herbal remedies] PUS IS IN MILK I keep asking myself, "so what?" so there is pus inmilk, that seems a given. So what? There is pus in mynose and I swallow the gunk daily. My body producesand reabsorbs pus constantly. I personally don't drinkmilk, but that is simply because I see no healthbenefit in it that I cannot get from less-processedmore natural methods. But again, so what?=====John Ybarra Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 --- " Dr. Ian Shillington " <Dr.IanShillington wrote: > Yeahhh!!! Time to move on. Pass me a beer will > ya??? ) > Love, > Doc Did someone say Beer???? ===== John Ybarra We are free to evade the effort of thinking, to reject reason, but we are not free to avoid the penalty of the abyss we refuse to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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