Guest guest Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 " Caisse herself deleted 4 herbs from the very 1st " Original " recipe... " Sorry, according to her own writing, this is not true but taken out of context at a later date and has been often regarded as gospel. She went down to four ingredients for ONLY the shots in order to remove the protein content, but used the entire eight for the drink as she felt it was needed to assist the body to remove and flush toxics from the body. This is from her writing: " This was during the period when I was working on Dr. Fisher's suggestion that the treatment could be made effective if given by injection, rather than in liquid form, as a tea. I started eliminating one substance and then another; finally when the protein content was eliminated, I found that the ingredients which stopped the malignancy growth could be given by intermuscular injection without causing the reaction that had followed my first experiments with injecting mice. However, I found that the ingredients removed from the injection formula, which reduced growth of cancer, were necessary to the treatment. These apparently carried off destroyed tissue and infections thrown off by the malignancy. By giving the intermuscular injection in the forearm, to destroy the mass of the malignant cells, and giving the medicine orally to purify the blood, I got quicker results than when the medicine was all given orally, which was my original treatments until Dr. Fisher suggested further experiments and developing an injection that could be given without reaction. " (Rene M. Caisse, R.N.) work cited: http://essiac-info.org/rene1.html#Banting Thanks for reading Louise Haddaway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 The Obijiwe (sp?) indian medicine man Rene discussed this formula with gave her the 8-herb recipe. The 4-herb recipe was the oral tea she made and used to cure countless. The injections were a protein modified form of that decoction. Here is an excerpt: he "old medicine man" recipe was 8 herbs -- the 4 essiac herbs, periwinkle, red clover and watercress. Rene Caisse left no written record of the 8th herb. According to Essiac Essentials, in the early 1920's while working with Dr. Fisher, Rene "tested decoctions of each herb individually until the eight original herbs were gradually modified down to the four herbs in the recipe as we know it today, i.e., Burdock root, Sheep Sorrel, Slippery Elm inner bark and Turkey rhubarb root." Janet - L. Haddaway herbal remedies Saturday, July 19, 2003 10:41 PM [herbal remedies] Wait a minute, important information re: Caisse & Essiac "Caisse herself deleted 4 herbs from the very 1st "Original" recipe..."Sorry, according to her own writing, this is not true but taken out ofcontext at a later date and has been often regarded as gospel.She went down to four ingredients for ONLY the shots in order to remove theprotein content, but used the entire eight for the drink as she felt it wasneeded to assist the body to remove and flush toxics from the body. This isfrom her writing:"This was during the period when I was working on Dr. Fisher's suggestionthat the treatment could be made effective if given by injection, ratherthan in liquid form, as a tea. I started eliminating one substance and thenanother; finally when the protein content was eliminated, I found that theingredients which stopped the malignancy growth could be given byintermuscular injection without causing the reaction that had followed myfirst experiments with injecting mice. However, I found that the ingredientsremoved from the injection formula, which reduced growth of cancer, werenecessary to the treatment. These apparently carried off destroyed tissueand infections thrown off by the malignancy.By giving the intermuscular injection in the forearm, to destroy the mass ofthe malignant cells, and giving the medicine orally to purify the blood, Igot quicker results than when the medicine was all given orally, which wasmy original treatments until Dr. Fisher suggested further experiments anddeveloping an injection that could be given without reaction." (Rene M.Caisse, R.N.)work cited: http://essiac-info.org/rene1.html#BantingThanks for readingLouise HaddawayFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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