Guest guest Posted May 18, 2003 Report Share Posted May 18, 2003 Hey guys....got a question. I have, in the past, taken ephedra as a tea for my asthma. I really can't stand the taste...no amount of honey in the world disguises it, lol. So today I come up with a brilliant idea, put it in capsules. So I ground it up, and encapsulated it. Within twenty minutes or so, I was FLYING. My heart was racing, REALLY jittery. I never had that with the tea. I mean, I would get a bit of an energy boost, but not like I experienced today. This lasted for about 4 hours before it started subsiding. Any ideas on how much I should be putting in the capsules? For the tea, I was using 1 teaspoon and simmering for about 20 minutes. I figured, the capsules weren't nearly that amount. I almost took TWO!! Good thing I didn't, lol. I don't have any sort of scale to weigh it. What is the usual dosage? Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 Ephedra is a whole plan. Ephedrine is a single chemical compound taken from that plant. Herbs are wonderfully complicated creations and there are many things in them which create a balance in the plant. Taking a single compound out completely changes that balance. Ephedra is used for respiratory problems and is never mixed with stimulants. This diet stuff of mixing ephedrine with caffine is just a complete bastardization of what that herb should be used for. Unfortunately, our legislatures don't understand the difference. Jaime (from Illinois) herbal remedies , " Patie Asturi " <patie@v...> wrote: > What is the difference between ephedra and ephedrine? Aren't they both the same thing? I was just wondering? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Further to two recent articles I found and posted on regulation for supplements and herbal products, here is another interesting piece of the puzzle. I have a feeling that the effects of <http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/09/26/dropping_like_flies_poisoned_by\ _aspartame.htm>Aspartame are being blamed on <http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/12/30/fda_bans_ephedra_deaths_may_be_\ aspartame_related.htm>Ephedra in such a way as to 'hit two birds with one stone', so to say. On the one hand, an uncomfortable competition to pharmaceuticals (ephedra herb) is being eliminated and tight controls on all herbs (and supplements) become justified, and on the other hand, by implication, Aspartame goes scot free, having been " cleared " by the alternative explanation of those deaths really being caused by Ephedra. Something to look into ... Kind regards Sepp >Sepp, Adamson seems to be connected with ><http://www.medtronic.com/newsroom/news_20031107b.html>Medtronic and >also through Medtronic to Glaxo. His study was funded by NIH. Check >out the last few paragraphs in bold. > >http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=healthNews & storyID=6506442 >Study Confirms Ephedrine Diet Supplements Can Kill >Thu Oct 14, 2004 06:00 PM ET > >WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A study in dogs confirms that ephedrine >weight loss supplements can kill, U.S. researchers said on Thursday, >supporting the U.S. Food and Drug Administration's action to ban >them. > >The supplements containing ephedrine -- originally a herbal extract >taken from a shrub and also used as a decongestant -- had little >effect on healthy dogs, the study found. > >But in dogs that had their arteries artificially blocked, ephedrine >had dangerous effects, said Dr. Philip Adamson of the University of >Oklahoma. > > " For our experiment, we went to the local health food store, bought >ephedrine supplements and gave our animals the dose recommended on >the label, " Adamson told a briefing sponsored by the American >Medical Association. > > " In past experiments on obese, otherwise healthy individuals, >ephedrine did not raise their heart rates when they were either at >rest or exercising, " Adamson added. > > " When we gave healthy animals ephedrine, we found exactly the same >thing. But the moment they developed a blockage in their heart >artery, which we are able to cause reversibly, their heart rates >went through the roof. " > >These fast heart rates, called fibrillation, can kill. > > " The heart starts beating so fast it can no longer pump blood, " >Adamson said. " We didn't expect such a dramatic response to >ephedrine. " > >Many people have such blockages without symptoms, Adamson noted. > >In a report to be published in the Oct. 26 issue of the Journal of >the American College of Cardiology, Adamson said the findings could >also begin to shed light on the 100,000 or so deaths every year in >the United States from sudden cardiac deaths. > >Ephedrine is not the cause in most, but the supplement affects the >sympathetic nervous system, which in turn controls heart rate. > > " This study certainly supports the FDA's decision to ban ephedrine >from dietary supplements, " Adamson said in a statement. " I hope it >will offer us additional insights into the nature and causes of >unheralded sudden death. " > >The U.S. Food and Drug Administration banned dietary supplements >containing ephedra in February because it can cause a heart attack >and stroke. The ban took effect in April. > >-- >When the government fears the people, you have liberty; >when the people fear the government, you have tyranny. >Thomas Jefferson > >Visit my site at: http://www.unsaccodicanapa.com -- The individual is supreme and finds its way through intuition. Sepp (Josef) Hasslberger Personal home page on physics,energy technology, social and economic issues: http://www.hasslberger.com Health Supreme: http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 Sepp, Your web site says info not found there????? NG - " Sepp (Josef) Hasslberger " <sepp " AltMedForum " Friday, October 15, 2004 4:13 PM Fwd: ephedra > > Further to two recent articles I found and posted on regulation for > supplements and herbal products, here is another interesting piece of > the puzzle. > > I have a feeling that the effects of > <http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/09/26/dropping_like_flies_poisone d_by_aspartame.htm>Aspartame > are being blamed on > <http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/12/30/fda_bans_ephedra_deaths_may _be_aspartame_related.htm>Ephedra > in such a way as to 'hit two birds with one stone', so to say. > > On the one hand, an uncomfortable competition to pharmaceuticals > (ephedra herb) is being eliminated and tight controls on all herbs > (and supplements) become justified, and on the other hand, by > implication, Aspartame goes scot free, having been " cleared " by the > alternative explanation of those deaths really being caused by > Ephedra. > > Something to look into ... > > Kind regards > Sepp > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 Nora, it might be because the links are long. They go over two lines. If on your mail program the link is not working, you may have to copy both lines into the address window of the browser to see the articles. http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/09/26/dropping_like_flies_poisoned_by_\ aspartame.htm and http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/12/30/fda_bans_ephedra_deaths_may_be_a\ spartame_related.htm Sepp =======Nora Gottlieb wrote======= Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:35:12 -0400 " Nora Gottlieb " <nwgott Re: Fwd: ephedra Sepp, Your web site says info not found there????? NG - " Sepp (Josef) Hasslberger " <sepp " AltMedForum " Friday, October 15, 2004 4:13 PM Fwd: ephedra > > Further to two recent articles I found and posted on regulation for > supplements and herbal products, here is another interesting piece of > the puzzle. > > I have a feeling that the effects of > <http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/09/26/dropping_like_flies_poisone d_by_aspartame.htm>Aspartame > are being blamed on > <http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/12/30/fda_bans_ephedra_deaths_may _be_aspartame_related.htm>Ephedra > in such a way as to 'hit two birds with one stone', so to say. > > On the one hand, an uncomfortable competition to pharmaceuticals > (ephedra herb) is being eliminated and tight controls on all herbs > (and supplements) become justified, and on the other hand, by > implication, Aspartame goes scot free, having been " cleared " by the > alternative explanation of those deaths really being caused by > Ephedra. -- The individual is supreme and finds its way through intuition. Sepp (Josef) Hasslberger Personal home page on physics,energy technology, social and economic issues: http://www.hasslberger.com Health Supreme: http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp Antiprohibition and products made from cannabis as a raw material: http://www.unsaccodicanapa.com Communication Agents: http://www.communicationagents.com/ La Leva di Archimede - freedom of choice main site: http://www.laleva.cc news: http://www.laleva.org Robin Good - " Understanding comes from exploration " http://www.masternewmedia.org Trash Your Television! http://www.tvturnoff.org/ Not satisfied with news from the tube and other controlled media? Search the net! There are literally thousands of alternative sources out there. Start with the following links. (But there are many more sites with good, timely information.) http://www.whatreallyhappened.com http://www.joevialls.co.uk/ http://www.padrak.com/alt/911DD.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Seen this? Kind regards Sepp http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3134684 /April 14, 2005, 2:31PM/ Judge strikes down FDA ban on ephedra *Associated Press* SALT LAKE CITY - A federal judge today struck down the FDA ban on ephedra, the once-popular weight-loss aid that was yanked from the market after it was linked to dozens of deaths. Park City-based Nutraceutical Corp. and its subsidiary Solaray had challenged the Food and Drug Administration's ban in federal court. Supplements that included ephedra have been widely used for weight loss and bodybuilding, but have linked to 155 deaths, including that of Baltimore Orioles pitching prospect Steve Bechler. The FDA ordered the substance off the market in April 2004. Nutraceutical claimed in its lawsuit filed last May that ephedra " has been safely consumed " for hundreds of years. U.S. District Judge Tena Campbell's ruling, written Wednesday and announced Thursday, overturns the ban, sends the matter back to the FDA " for further rulemaking consistent with the court's opinion " and keeps the agency from enforcement action against the companies. FDA officials did not immediately return a call seeking comment. Company President Bruce Hough said the decision is about " protecting the public's access to safe and effective dietary supplements. " -- The individual is supreme and finds its way through intuition. Sepp Hasslberger My page on physics, new energy, economy: http://www.hasslberger.com/ Critical perspective on Health: http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/ Antiprohibition and cannabis: http://www.unsaccodicanapa.com/ Communication Agents: http://www.communicationagents.com/ Freedom of choice - La Leva di Archimede: http://www.laleva.cc/ La Leva's news: http://www.laleva.org/ Robin Good - http://www.masternewmedia.org/ Trash Your Television! - http://www.tvturnoff.org/ Not satisfied with news from the tube and other controlled media? Search the net! There are thousands of information sources out there. Start with http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ http://www.truthout.org/ http://www.joevialls.co.uk/ http://www.Rense.com/ http://www.michaelmoore.com/ http://www.padrak.com/alt/911DD.html http://www.rexresearch.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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