vitamins/cravings...

[Guest guest]

Angel,

Read Food and Healing by Annemarie Colbin. High proteins are baaaaaaaad,

one of the side effects being possible kidney damage and the other being

an imbalance which will cause you to gain a ton more weight when you come

off. It may be good for short term weight gain but it's horrible for your

health and DANGEROUS during pregnancy!

 

ILANA xoxo

 

Anjeweleyes wrote:

Never had my thyroid checked, even

though I've always been over weight since I was molested (5, 6, and 7).

Doctors hear that and automatically assume it's a mental protection thing...then,

they want me to have all this therapy.

Nothing helps but the no/low carb

diet and I'm afraid of it for very long at the time. And, I'll tell ya,

even steak and shrimp get old every night. I lost 40lbs in the first three

months, fell off for the holidays...and it was sooo hard to get back into

ketosis after that, I just gave up. Before I started it my weight was pretty

steady...now, it just keeps climbing no matter what I do. I am afraid that

diet did something to something...but, if you're not afraid of it, it really

does work...

And, I'm sure there must be other

ways to go about it than what I did. This was before I knew about all the

junk and poisons in regular foods.

I don't eat organic, but I try to

stay away from such highly processed foods now.

Whew...see how my thoughts are rambling?

It's just crazy.

Angel

All incoming and outgoing scanned with NAV for both our protection.

 

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karly

 

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Thursday, May 15, 2003 3:25 PM

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Re: [herbal remedies] vitamins/cravings...

 

 

Have you had your thyroid checked lately? I know I was

a B**** til I got what I was craving til I found out I

had thyroid probs...but with you...another story I'm

sure being preggy and all But might be worth a

check!

Karly

 

 

 

 

 

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1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

remedy.

3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

to

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[Guest guest]

High protein is bad, but strike a balance- you need enough protein, but high protein is bad. A lot of people don't get enough. I have heard that a good goal is to eat 5 or 6 small meals with a good protein source present at each one. Glass of soy milk or almond milk, some nuts, lean chicken or turkey, fish.... fish is awesome. But, don't ignore whole grains at all... From what I understand most meals should have present a whole grain, a protein, and fruit or vegetable. Four meals with the whole grain is enough, and then the rest with a big salad or something. I was on a high protein diet and I felt so miserable. I lost no weight and my bowel habits were messed up. I feel so healthy eating like this, to me, it is a miracle! I have more energy, my sleeping habits aren't erratic. I am "regular"... Just thought I'd share! I've never been pregnant so I am not sure if this will be enough or not.Anjeweleyes <anjewelhaze wrote:

 

Never had my thyroid checked, even though I've always been over weight since I was molested (5, 6, and 7). Doctors hear that and automatically assume it's a mental protection thing...then, they want me to have all this therapy.

Nothing helps but the no/low carb diet and I'm afraid of it for very long at the time. And, I'll tell ya, even steak and shrimp get old every night. I lost 40lbs in the first three months, fell off for the holidays...and it was sooo hard to get back into ketosis after that, I just gave up. Before I started it my weight was pretty steady...now, it just keeps climbing no matter what I do. I am afraid that diet did something to something...but, if you're not afraid of it, it really does work...

And, I'm sure there must be other ways to go about it than what I did. This was before I knew about all the junk and poisons in regular foods.

I don't eat organic, but I try to stay away from such highly processed foods now.

Whew...see how my thoughts are rambling? It's just crazy.

Angel

All incoming and outgoing scanned with NAV for both our protection.

 

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karly

herbal remedies

Thursday, May 15, 2003 3:25 PM

Re: [herbal remedies] vitamins/cravings...

Have you had your thyroid checked lately? I know I wasa B**** til I got what I was craving til I found out Ihad thyroid probs...but with you...another story I'msure being preggy and all But might be worth acheck!KarlyFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

It's all about a whole foods diet, with an emphasis on grains and veggies.

You can't go wrong with a diet like that. Our bodies aren't built to handle

large amounts of animal protein. Our digestive tracts are simply too long

so the stuff sits there and putrifies and that causes all sorts of problems.

A diet high in whole grains and veggies will help to move the food along

your digestive tract, keeping it taut and the muscles strong. Anyone ever

seen pics of the stuff that comes out of someone who eats the Standard American

Diet at a colonic? It's horrifying. Just think of what that junk sitting

there in your intestines for so long does to you. We have pressure points

in our colon, same as on the outside of our body, and caked food stuck in

our bowels can lead to chronic migraines and all sorts of other health problems.

If you eat a diet high in grains you get the perfect balance of fibre and

nutrients that lead to bowel health, and when you're regular you're just

a happier, healthier person!

 

A diet that is so high in protein does not allow for stable blood sugar levels.

The kidneys have to work extra hard to filter out the excess uric acid produced

by the metabolism of the protein. You'll get constipated because you don't

have enough fibre. You'll get awful cravings because you aren't consuming

enough carbohydrates. And eventually, when your body has just had enough,

you'll go on an extreme sugar-binge as your system tries to rebalance itself.

And you'll just end up gaining more weight than you had on you before.

 

ILANA xoxo

 

Katherine Huether wrote:

High protein is bad, but strike a balance- you need enough protein,

but high protein is bad. A lot of people don't get enough. I have heard that

a good goal is to eat 5 or 6 small meals with a good protein source present

at each one. Glass of soy milk or almond milk, some nuts, lean chicken or

turkey, fish.... fish is awesome. But, don't ignore whole grains at all...

From what I understand most meals should have present a whole grain, a protein,

and fruit or vegetable. Four meals with the whole grain is enough, and then

the rest with a big salad or something. I was on a high protein diet and

I felt so miserable. I lost no weight and my bowel habits were messed up.

I feel so healthy eating like this, to me, it is a miracle! I have more energy,

my sleeping habits aren't erratic. I am "regular"... Just thought I'd share!

I've never been pregnant so I am not sure if this will be enough or not.

 

Anjeweleyes <anjewelhaze wrote: Never had my thyroid checked,

even though I've always been over weight since I was molested (5, 6, and

7). Doctors hear that and automatically assume it's a mental protection thing...then,

they want me to have all this therapy.

Nothing helps but the no/low carb

diet and I'm afraid of it for very long at the time. And, I'll tell ya, even

steak and shrimp get old every night. I lost 40lbs in the first three months,

fell off for the holidays...and it was sooo hard to get back into ketosis

after that, I just gave up. Before I started it my weight was pretty steady...now,

it just keeps climbing no matter what I do. I am afraid that diet did something

to something...but, if you're not afraid of it, it really does work...

And, I'm sure there must be other

ways to go about it than what I did. This was before I knew about all the

junk and poisons in regular foods.

I don't eat organic, but I try

to stay away from such highly processed foods now.

Whew...see how my thoughts are

rambling? It's just crazy.

Angel

All incoming and outgoing scanned with NAV for both our protection.

 

-----

Original Message -----

 

karly

 

To:

herbal remedies

 

Sent:

Thursday, May 15, 2003 3:25 PM

Subject:

Re: [herbal remedies] vitamins/cravings...

 

 

Have you had your thyroid checked lately? I know I was

a B**** til I got what I was craving til I found out I

had thyroid probs...but with you...another story I'm

sure being preggy and all But might be worth a

check!

Karly

 

 

 

 

 

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy.

 

3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

to

prescribe for your own health.

We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

as

they behave themselves.

Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person

 

following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from

list members, you are agreeing to

be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members

free of any liability.

 

Dr. Ian Shillington

Doctor of Naturopathy

Dr.IanShillington

 

 

[Guest guest]

" And, I think old Mr. Adkins himself just came out of the hospital

with something wrong with his heart...Imagine that? And, you know he

has the money and resources to get to the very best of anything he

ever thought you'd need for that diet. "

 

-- Actually he's dead.

 

" Bacon, eggs and sour cream can not be good for you all the time even

if it's organic. "

 

-- The part that always bothered me about that diet is that it does

not distiguish between good and bad protein source. For example:

steak versus fish. Not all carbs are bad and not all proteins are bad

but in American we tend to eat from teh bad groups of both of these

because they taste good.. so, when you tell a large group of people

with historically horrible eating habits not to eat carbs they

immediately think they can eat nothing but steak, sausage franks,

etc. That's the scary part.

[Guest guest]

It DID work! People lose weight very quickly on this diet. But that's because

1) you lose a LOT of water when you switch to high protein because the kidneys

start to work extra hard to flush out all the extra uric acid, and 2) you're

not eating much in the way of carbs, which is our main source of energy,

so the body starts to consume fat stores for energy. But once it is done

that, it will plateau as the body doesn't like to have to go on to the next

source of energy, namely our muscles. That's why it can't be maintained.

Those are facts and they can't be disputed.

 

As for philosophies, there is no arguing that some people believe you need

more protein than others, but as I said in an earlier post, this particular

philosophy may be based in sound theory, but the way people apply it make

it impossible to sustain.

 

ILANA xoxo

 

ErinJC23 wrote:

 

 

You have to understand the way our body works to understand why

this diet can't be sustained. Read Food and Healing and you'll find the answers,

if you're looking for them.

 

ILANA xoxo

 

e g wrote:

 

I just want to state that if you are talking about the Atkins Diet

(high protien/low carb), one does not go "off" the diet. Atkins is meant

to be a whole way of living and eating. It's not a diet, it's not a fad.

 

 

 

 

Responding to the 2 different posts above - Atkins had a different opinion

about what the body needed. Around the time he died (very recently) they

had done some evidence to prove his theories. However, there is also evidence

to prove theories that disagree with him I dont agree with his diet -

no - I think it would be harsh on the body. But what I mean by this entire

post, lol, is that the people on this diet see the body as needing a lot

of protein, etc, and see the body running differently through their own opinions,

studies, evaluations than some of us do. So I dont think this is a subject

we can "advise" on, it just depends on what train of thought the person is

following. A lot of health officials were outraged, saying his diet plan

was downright dangerous, but a lot of people swore it worked by them. Just

your own opinions I suppose.

 

Erin

 

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

remedy.

3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

to

prescribe for your own health.

We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

as

they behave themselves.

Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person

 

following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from

list members, you are agreeing to

be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members

free of any liability.

 

Dr. Ian Shillington

Doctor of Naturopathy

Dr.IanShillington