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Your dog sounds stressed out! We left our cat alone for a long weekend (we had someone come feed him) and when we came back, we saw that he had shed all over his favorite blanket. Since I don't have a dog, I don't know what to reccomend. But, there is a doctor- Randy Kidd... he is a vet that treats the animals naturally. He has one especially for dogs (I have the one for cats). I don't remember the title but if you go to amazon and do a search on his name, it should come up.

 

Love, Kathykarly11us <karly11us wrote:

Hello all, In such a short time I have come to really like this group.I am running out of my alloted space for saving so many filesalready.I have a 150 pound block head black lab,prime condition,not fat justsuper big! Anyway he is loosing hair and constantly licking/itching incertain areas. Hydrocortisone spray for dogs used to work,but now it'snot. I'm not sure what his problem is..no fleas/worms/critters coexistwith him...I'm sorta thinking it's because I've been at the hospitalwith mom everyday since 4/15 ??? He's 3 years old and a mommas boy.The action is at the base of his tail and where his "saddlebags" wouldbe if he were me! HAH!I would appreciate any kind os info...shampoo,ointment,tincture,etcAnd thanks for all the hair info...knowing me I will try all of them :)KarlyFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Karly, what a big boy! My mom has a lab too, but only 95lbs.

Phew, long post, sorry. I can't assume you already know some of this

although you probably do.

As a pet groomer, I would suggest possible allergies. Many dogs

break out that way this very time of the year. Stress would help

bring this on worse, and the steroids didn't help him either. Always

makes things progressively worse, but then, you found that out.

Grocery store foods, tap water and vaccines contribute to allergies

being worse every year, for people and animals alike. 3/4's of my

dog's have allergies, it's really sad.

Texas has a really, really bad flea (bionic I hear and tick

problem this year according to groomer friends I know there, and

their tap water is pretty bad as well. So this will be good

preventitive medicine here.

I do not know the type of food you feed now, or if he gets enough of

the right kinds of oils, if he is on tap water, if he's been

vaccinated recently....and quite possibly, but not likely, it is

nerves alone.

I am a stickler for saving money, so I will always give the cheapest

way I know, to help short as well as long term, permanently. If it's

in your bugdet, this can always be added to, but never taken away

from, at least if you want it to work.

It's important hot spots remain dry for the most part. I wouldn't

use oils that will not penetrate quickly on them, as if they are

kept wet constantly they will begin to ooze puss, and also begin to

smell quite rancid. If that happens a bath would be out of the

question.

If he were mine, (and I do this for my dogs:)I would get him off of

tap water asap, add 4 tablespoons of raw apple cider vinegar to a

gallon of filtered water and put that in his drinking bowl from now

on, like forever:)

I would get a spritzer bottle and use half filtered water and half

raw apple cider vinegar and spray it on his hot spots several times

a day. It will not smell bad when it dries, and will help his skin

and itch. It will also dry quickly enough.

ACV will help keep him dewormed, and help control fleas, keeps flies

away from the sores, freshens breath, nutralizes odors of all sorts,

oxygenates the system, puts a beautiful coat on them, it is also

anti fungal, anti viral, and anti bacterial, aids in digestion,

stops gas, breaks up quickly and/or prevents kidney and bladder

stones and crystals it's wonderful stuff. We use it for our rabbits,

dogs, cat, bird, and ourselves. I use it on almost every clients dog.

I have allergy dogs owned by clients that live an hour and a half

away that bring their dogs all the way to me, cuz I stop the itch. I

do that with ACV/MSM rinse. I tell them that. I have that stuff

stocked by the gallons in my house and always a gallon in the making

too.

I also ALWAYS recommend MSM internally and externally. It stops an

itch on a dime and as raw apple cider vinegar, it helps stop

allergic reactions. Get the right MSM tho, I think it's available

here. Add it to the ACV water in the spritzer bottle as well. This

will ensure he will stop chewing and scratching, making matters

worse. It will work within minutes if there is enough added to the

ACV/water mixture. You do not have to fill the spritzer bottle up

all the way, just fill it 1/3 or so full, just make sure the ACV and

water is 50/50, and add 2 teaspoons of MSM to it.

To his water add MSM also. Use his weight as a giude for dosage, but

add a little more every 6 days till you see relief. Don't just stick

to what the label says as his final dosage unless you see relief

beyond getting any better. As long as there is pain or, in his case,

itch he hasn't reached getting too much, but even if he does get

more than he needs, the body will discard what it doesn't need. Our

bodies do not " store " MSM. Everyone's dosage is different. Biggest

problem with people thinking MSM doesn't work is not using enough or

getting the wrong stuff. Not working is an impossibility.

I highly recommend a human grade, non allergy food that already

contains a probiotic, in fact it would be hard not to find a real

good food without the probiotic already in it. I recommend this as

it's less to add to the food or water seperately and keep up with,

and with the people I normally deal with, less to keep up with is

always better:) Make SURE this human grade food is WITHOUT wheat or

corn. They are just as bad for animals as they are people.

He will need this food to build his system over the long haul, it is

depleted, thus the allergies.

If the food does not contain a probiotic, get or make a probiotic

(cabbage water in the files here on site, if you do not mind making

your own " cures " ) and sprinkle it on his food or in his water, to

strengthen his immune system. Probiotics are available at many pet

or feed stores and online. Stay away from those made with or

containing dairy.

If the food does not contain the long chain fatty acids or Omega 3,

6, and 9 oil, then I would add a nice oil like flax seed oil, or

borage oil, to his food, but it probably will already have adequate

oil in it.

A co-op, feed store, higher grade pet supply store or even a

healthfood store would be where to go.

They eat wayyyy less of a high grade food than they do the junk

stuff, so it ends up being cheaper in the long run to buy the best.

And it will save BIG bucks in vet bills too, especially for that

large of a dog! Give him about a week or two on the new food and he

will begin to eat less and less, and look at it like an investment.

My Giant Schnauzer eats very little and he is quite active.

The above regime is tried tested and proven many times over. Never

had one single person call and say it didn't work, just the

opposite. Proven on people as well as animals. Nothing more is

necessary with this particular regime, but below are additional

suggestions:

I can even help you whip up your own dog food, but it is work. Gets

easier with time and habit, but with a dog that size you will be

making it every three days. I have it down to a science tho. Also

you can look into BARFING your dog. That is raw foods only, spendy

for that size of dog, but the best way to go.

Many groomers like to use lavender oil for skin ailments, even

Schnauzer skin (acne and black heads)and I have to admit, it has

never let me down either. I do not recommend using it on hot spots

however. It's great for infections and all, but it keeps those spots

too wet too long. The answer to this particular problem is treating

it while keeping it as dry as possible.

I mix a tiny bit of the lavender oil with neem oil. Doesn't smell so

nice but works very well. Have not had success with this and hot

spots tho.

As far as shampoo's go, there are many, many many. Oatmeal helps

with itching but not as well as the MSM or ACV. I add neem oil and

aloe to my shampoo's. I am a " dump " cook and just add ingredients at

will as you could probably tell by a post I left on list for a home

made cream rinse.

Witch Hazel mixed with different herbs would dry quickly and be

helpful.

There are many ways to handle this, but that's my opinion.

bt

 

 

> with mom everyday since 4/15 ??? He's 3 years old and a mommas

boy.

> The action is at the base of his tail and where his " saddlebags "

would

> be if he were me! HAH!

> I would appreciate any kind os info...shampoo,ointment,tincture,etc

> And thanks for all the hair info...knowing me I will try all of

them

> Karly

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--- karly <karly11us wrote:

> Hi Ilana,

> He gets dry Pedigree with home food mixed

> in,you know...what we had for dinner...not a

> lot,just

> enough for him to think he's eating what we are. He

> has also been " dieting " ...leaving alot left in his

> bowl.

> Karly

 

Oh no! You should never feed a pet from the dinner

plate! Cooked food, spices, etc, are so incredibly bad

for animals! By feeding an animal from the dinner

plate, we counteract any benefits that might be gained

from the good pet foods. And, in case you didn't know,

never feed a dog chocolate.

 

 

 

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herbal remedies , John Ybarra

<deuteronomy2929> wrote:

> --- karly <karly11us> wrote:

> > Hi Ilana,

> > He gets dry Pedigree with home food mixed

> > in,you know...what we had for dinner...not a

> > lot,just

> > enough for him to think he's eating what we are. He

> > has also been " dieting " ...leaving alot left in his

> > bowl.

> > Karly

 

I have a friend that shows her dog and she swears by a food called

Solid Gold for clearing up all of the allergies she's seen in other

some of the dogs. I haven't looked into it, but they have a web site

http://www.solidgoldhealth.com/.

 

Otherwise, it sounds like the dog has you trained pretty well ;-).

While it's hard to watch them not eat when they don't get what they

want, they will eat eventually. Maybe you can back them off slowly..

I know some animals where if you add a little water to their food

they are tricked into thinking they have " gravy " . Also, my vet has

mentioned that it's better for the animal's digestive system to eat

two smaller meals a day than one large one. Kinda like humans, it's

helps with metabolism when you eat frequent small meals versus

infrequent large once.

 

Jaime

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It sounds to me like your dog has a thyroid problem. I had a Golden Retriever that had thyroid problems and she gained a lot of weight, lost big patches of hair, and itched all the time. She was really lethargic too. I would take your puppy to the vet and have his thyroid checked. That could be the problem but they have a little pill that you can give them that helps a lot.

 

HTH,

 

Amy )

 

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Hello all, In such a short time I have come to really like this group.I am running out of my alloted space for saving so many filesalready.I have a 150 pound block head black lab,prime condition,not fat justsuper big! Anyway he is loosing hair and constantly licking/itching incertain areas. Hydrocortisone spray for dogs used to work,but now it'snot. I'm not sure what his problem is..no fleas/worms/critters coexistwith him...I'm sorta thinking it's because I've been at the hospitalwith mom everyday since 4/15 ??? He's 3 years old and a mommas boy.The action is at the base of his tail and where his "saddlebags" wouldbe if he were me! HAH!I would appreciate any kind os info...shampoo,ointment,tincture,etcAnd thanks for all the hair info...knowing me I will try all of them :)Karly

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Also, maybe if you have to add human food to their dish, make them something

special, like a hard boiled egg or some vegetables (I'm pretty sure dogs

can eat vegetables - after all it's added to the food). Don't feed of your

own plates. Put some aside for them before you add spices. It's not like

they'll know the difference!

 

I know how hard it is to untrain animals. I can't bring myself to do with

my cats either (they're beggers) so I just make sure that when I do give

them human food it's stuff they can eat. One of my cats LOVES greens, the

darker the better, and seeing as cats eat that stuff in the wild I know he

needs it. He's been chowing down on my organic dandelion leaves.

 

ILANA xoxo

 

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herbal remedies , John Ybarra

<deuteronomy2929> wrote:

> --- karly <karly11us> wrote:

> > Hi Ilana,

> > He gets dry Pedigree with home food mixed

> > in,you know...what we had for dinner...not a

> > lot,just

> > enough for him to think he's eating what we are. He

> > has also been "dieting"...leaving alot left in his

> > bowl.

> > Karly

 

I have a friend that shows her dog and she swears by a food called

Solid Gold for clearing up all of the allergies she's seen in other

some of the dogs. I haven't looked into it, but they have a web site

http://www.solidgoldhealth.com/.

 

 

Otherwise, it sounds like the dog has you trained pretty well ;-).

While it's hard to watch them not eat when they don't get what they

want, they will eat eventually. Maybe you can back them off slowly..

I know some animals where if you add a little water to their food

they are tricked into thinking they have "gravy". Also, my vet has

mentioned that it's better for the animal's digestive system to eat

two smaller meals a day than one large one. Kinda like humans, it's

helps with metabolism when you eat frequent small meals versus

infrequent large once.

 

Jaime

 

 

 

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

remedy.

3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

to

prescribe for your own health.

We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

as

they behave themselves.

Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person

 

following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from

list members, you are agreeing to

be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members

free of any liability.

 

Dr. Ian Shillington

Doctor of Naturopathy

Dr.IanShillington

 

 

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Sounds to me like he misses his mama.

I don't know about dogs, but I do know that parrots will pluck their feathers when they are lonesome, nervous, or home sick.

But, while you have been at the hospital, who else feeds him? Are you sure that he only gets his normal food?

Has anyone been miss treating him?

I do know that dogs get very attached and are sometimes not so willing or able to take change at a moments notice no matter what the circumstances are...

I just feel like it's your absence. Maybe when everything gets back to normal, he'll be fine. Until then, try some extra special attention when you are there.

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I agree that the diet and stress plays a very important role but one other thing that may be causing this hair loss and scratching may be due to mites. I have had dealings with this before in both dogs and goats. You can't see them as they live under the surface of the skin and the only way to find them is to get the vet to scrape the skin.

 

I sucessfully treated it using clove and tea tree oils in a carrier such as olive oil. This soaks into the skin and takes care of the mites. Surface sprays don't help as these mites burrow under the skin. I use this combination for a week. They stop itching very quickly and within a week to two you'll see the hair coming back.

 

Just one more idea,

Tamara

 

 

karly11us <karly11us wrote:

Hello all, In such a short time I have come to really like this group.I am running out of my alloted space for saving so many filesalready.I have a 150 pound block head black lab,prime condition,not fat justsuper big! Anyway he is loosing hair and constantly licking/itching incertain areas. Hydrocortisone spray for dogs used to work,but now it'snot. I'm not sure what his problem is..no fleas/worms/critters coexistwith him...I'm sorta thinking it's because I've been at the hospitalwith mom everyday since 4/15 ??? He's 3 years old and a mommas boy.The action is at the base of his tail and where his "saddlebags" wouldbe if he were me! HAH!I would appreciate any kind os info...shampoo,ointment,tincture,etcAnd thanks for all the hair info...knowing me I will try all of them :)Karly

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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You have to be careful with onion too - causes their intestines to bleed

(especially if it's raw onion). Also found out that any mustard,

broccoli or cauliflower can be bad. Seems they give some dogs upset

stomachs or bloody vomiting.

 

 

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Thursday, May 15, 2003 7:53 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] What about dogs?

 

 

> from the good pet foods. And, in case you didn't know,

> never feed a dog chocolate.

 

 

 

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