natural antihistamine

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I agree with treating symptoms. Not a good thing, even if it's with

herbs.

Using steriods while nursing or anytime at all is way not a good

thing. Maybe they did not explain steriods to you before perscribing

them as I doubt you would be using such a dangerous drug at all much

less while nursing if they had.

Alters moods, can completely destroy your immune system in one dose

at any time, it will slowly break things down to the point of being

totally out of control eventually and your symptoms will eventually

bleed through even the steriods. They are addictive in the way that

your body becomes dependant on them, and your infant is getting

them. A quick removal of the drug can stop your heart or your babies

heart, you must wean off of them. They do not fix anything they mask

symptoms, making your body worse and worse with each dose. Maybe you

could do a search on the net to see all that yucky stuff and then

some, so you know we aren't being paranoid. I mean this isn't fair

to your baby at all to be so damaged inside.

Cut out dairy as sinus is a definate tell tale sign of dairy

allergy. Your system has been damaged and you will need to repair.

You will never believe to what extent either. The longer you are on

this drug, the more damage. Drug induced diabetes, and all sorts of

lovelies await you just around the corner. Steriods are some kind of

powerful alright.....what you can do....

Buffered powdered vitamin C is a natural antihystamine. Not the

crystals, they are not the same thing but in the healthfood store

they will try to tell you it is. Twinlabs makes a nice one. You

could probably find it online someplace but it is hard to find at

the healthfood stores. Matter of fact I just saw some on sale I will

try to send the link.

Vitamin C powder MUST be used to bowel tolerance. Increase a little

each day (1/4 teaspoon) till you get rumbles in your belly then back

off to what you were taking the day before. That's your proper

dosage.

Buffered powdered C will normalize your system, come against even

food allergies amoung many other things. It is the only way vit C

should be taken.

It did not bother my nursing baby, but then I took it through out my

pregnancy.

MSM will also help with normalizing blood sugar levels as well as

hayfever type allergies. It works fast as well. Your baby already

gets 500 mg's of MSM each time he/she nurses. You HAVE to watch out

for the brand you buy. No matter how many times I say that it seems

people run out and buy whatever they find in the store. Well, it

will not work and may poison you with dangerous fillers and your

baby. There are no FDA standards on MSM so any company can put what

ever they like on the labels. They say they are 98 percent pure and

ect. that they came from the US when in reality, they came from

China, and were only bottled here in the US.

There are also many herb tea blends.

Eucaliptus oil is nice and there are also many menthol rubs sold in

the healthfood stores that you could rub in your nostrils.

bt

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your responses, bt & Kathy.

 

A lot of my nasal swelling is from dust allergies--too much all at once and I have asthma attacks.

 

I used to use steriod cream for eczema and know full well the complications of using it long term. I don't like it, but I need to submit to my doctor with the nasal spray for the next two weeks. Anything long term will only be herbal or none at all. I can't justify damaging my body in one area to alleviate another.

 

I have taken regularly vitamin C and green tea, but none of it touched my symptoms. Either I didn't take enough, I needed to combine them with other herbs, or they don't work for me...

 

I didn't test postive to hay fever allergies, that I remember, so I'm not sure if MSM will help. I'll look into it, though. I already use onion & garlic, but I'm going to look into the Nettle tea and grapeseed extract.

 

Tell you the truth, I think I'm allergic to my house. I've really noticed my problems since we moved in 5-6 years ago. It will be interesting to see how things change when we move into a new house, which will be as soon as we sell this one and find our new home.

 

Brandy

shemaiah

 

 

 

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biblethumper38

herbal remedies

Tuesday, May 13, 2003 11:00 PM

[herbal remedies] natural antihistamine

 

I agree with treating symptoms. Not a good thing, even if it's with herbs.Using steriods while nursing or anytime at all is way not a good thing. Maybe they did not explain steriods to you before perscribing them as I doubt you would be using such a dangerous drug at all much less while nursing if they had.Alters moods, can completely destroy your immune system in one dose at any time, it will slowly break things down to the point of being totally out of control eventually and your symptoms will eventually bleed through even the steriods. They are addictive in the way that your body becomes dependant on them, and your infant is getting them. A quick removal of the drug can stop your heart or your babies heart, you must wean off of them. They do not fix anything they mask symptoms, making your body worse and worse with each dose. Maybe you could do a search on the net to see all that yucky stuff and then some, so you know we aren't being paranoid. I mean this isn't fair to your baby at all to be so damaged inside.Cut out dairy as sinus is a definate tell tale sign of dairy allergy. Your system has been damaged and you will need to repair. You will never believe to what extent either. The longer you are on this drug, the more damage. Drug induced diabetes, and all sorts of lovelies await you just around the corner. Steriods are some kind of powerful alright.....what you can do....Buffered powdered vitamin C is a natural antihystamine. Not the crystals, they are not the same thing but in the healthfood store they will try to tell you it is. Twinlabs makes a nice one. You could probably find it online someplace but it is hard to find at the healthfood stores. Matter of fact I just saw some on sale I will try to send the link.Vitamin C powder MUST be used to bowel tolerance. Increase a little each day (1/4 teaspoon) till you get rumbles in your belly then back off to what you were taking the day before. That's your proper dosage. Buffered powdered C will normalize your system, come against even food allergies amoung many other things. It is the only way vit C should be taken.It did not bother my nursing baby, but then I took it through out my pregnancy.MSM will also help with normalizing blood sugar levels as well as hayfever type allergies. It works fast as well. Your baby already gets 500 mg's of MSM each time he/she nurses. You HAVE to watch out for the brand you buy. No matter how many times I say that it seems people run out and buy whatever they find in the store. Well, it will not work and may poison you with dangerous fillers and your baby. There are no FDA standards on MSM so any company can put what ever they like on the labels. They say they are 98 percent pure and ect. that they came from the US when in reality, they came from China, and were only bottled here in the US. There are also many herb tea blends.Eucaliptus oil is nice and there are also many menthol rubs sold in the healthfood stores that you could rub in your nostrils.bt

 

~~~~~~~~~~ Kathy's Original Message:

 

 

Cheer up! Your body will heal, with some help! I definitely would stop the nasal steroids, as I'm sure you already heard.

 

Anyway, here are herbs and vitamins that I use on myself for my allergies.

 

1500 mg of vit c taken 500 mg at a time, three times a day, between meals.

 

Green tea... one or two cups a day. Contains quercetins which are antihistimines.

 

Garlic or onion- I cook with a ton of garlic. Both also have the quercetins. In addition, garlic and onion taken as a steam relieve sinus pressure.

 

Nettle tea- antihistimine, rich in minerals. one cup

 

rosehips tea- rich in vit c- one cup (I usually mix one teaspoon rosehips with one teaspoon nettle and drink it all at once).

 

Grapeseed extract- one 50 mg capsule a day

My allergies and sinus problems are undercontrol. This means a lot- I live in a rainy climate and suffer from a mold allergy! I also have pollen allergies. One year, my immune system was so off kilter, I also got mono during allergy season. I was on prescription antihistimines which made the situation worse. These herbs support the whole body by inspiring it to heal. My allergies were also undercontrol when I lived in the midwest, which I understand to be the allergy capital

 

I am so happy you want to take control of the situation!

 

Love, Kathy

[Guest guest]

I lived in an apartment that was infested with mold inside the walls. Nasty. I wouldn't stop the vitamin C and green tea, but I would add nettle and grapeseed extract to it. I think all the things seem to work together, but it may take a while for your body to start noticing big changes. It took me about a month. It isn't immediate, like Zyrtec was (that knocked me on my butt... and now I am traumatized against prescription antihitimines!) Do you own a hepa filter?"B. Brow" <shemaiah wrote:

 

Thanks for your responses, bt & Kathy.

 

A lot of my nasal swelling is from dust allergies--too much all at once and I have asthma attacks.

 

I used to use steriod cream for eczema and know full well the complications of using it long term. I don't like it, but I need to submit to my doctor with the nasal spray for the next two weeks. Anything long term will only be herbal or none at all. I can't justify damaging my body in one area to alleviate another.

 

I have taken regularly vitamin C and green tea, but none of it touched my symptoms. Either I didn't take enough, I needed to combine them with other herbs, or they don't work for me...

 

I didn't test postive to hay fever allergies, that I remember, so I'm not sure if MSM will help. I'll look into it, though. I already use onion & garlic, but I'm going to look into the Nettle tea and grapeseed extract.

 

Tell you the truth, I think I'm allergic to my house. I've really noticed my problems since we moved in 5-6 years ago. It will be interesting to see how things change when we move into a new house, which will be as soon as we sell this one and find our new home.

 

Brandy

shemaiah

 

 

 

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biblethumper38

herbal remedies

Tuesday, May 13, 2003 11:00 PM

[herbal remedies] natural antihistamine

 

I agree with treating symptoms. Not a good thing, even if it's with herbs.Using steriods while nursing or anytime at all is way not a good thing. Maybe they did not explain steriods to you before perscribing them as I doubt you would be using such a dangerous drug at all much less while nursing if they had.Alters moods, can completely destroy your immune system in one dose at any time, it will slowly break things down to the point of being totally out of control eventually and your symptoms will eventually bleed through even the steriods. They are addictive in the way that your body becomes dependant on them, and your infant is getting them. A quick removal of the drug can stop your heart or your babies heart, you must wean off of them. They do not fix anything they mask symptoms, making your body worse and worse with each dose. Maybe you could do a search on the net to see all that yucky stuff and then some, so you know we aren't being paranoid. I mean this isn't fair to your baby at all to be so damaged inside.Cut out dairy as sinus is a definate tell tale sign of dairy allergy. Your system has been damaged and you will need to repair. You will never believe to what extent either. The longer you are on this drug, the more damage. Drug induced diabetes, and all sorts of lovelies await you just around the corner. Steriods are some kind of powerful alright.....what you can do....Buffered powdered vitamin C is a natural antihystamine. Not the crystals, they are not the same thing but in the healthfood store they will try to tell you it is. Twinlabs makes a nice one. You could probably find it online someplace but it is hard to find at the healthfood stores. Matter of fact I just saw some on sale I will try to send the link.Vitamin C powder MUST be used to bowel tolerance. Increase a little each day (1/4 teaspoon) till you get rumbles in your belly then back off to what you were taking the day before. That's your proper dosage. Buffered powdered C will normalize your system, come against even food allergies amoung many other things. It is the only way vit C should be taken.It did not bother my nursing baby, but then I took it through out my pregnancy.MSM will also help with normalizing blood sugar levels as well as hayfever type allergies. It works fast as well. Your baby already gets 500 mg's of MSM each time he/she nurses. You HAVE to watch out for the brand you buy. No matter how many times I say that it seems people run out and buy whatever they find in the store. Well, it will not work and may poison you with dangerous fillers and your baby. There are no FDA standards on MSM so any company can put what ever they like on the labels. They say they are 98 percent pure and ect. that they came from the US when in reality, they came from China, and were only bottled here in the US. There are also many herb tea blends.Eucaliptus oil is nice and there are also many menthol rubs sold in the healthfood stores that you could rub in your nostrils.bt

 

~~~~~~~~~~ Kathy's Original Message:

 

 

Cheer up! Your body will heal, with some help! I definitely would stop the nasal steroids, as I'm sure you already heard.

 

Anyway, here are herbs and vitamins that I use on myself for my allergies.

 

1500 mg of vit c taken 500 mg at a time, three times a day, between meals.

 

Green tea... one or two cups a day. Contains quercetins which are antihistimines.

 

Garlic or onion- I cook with a ton of garlic. Both also have the quercetins. In addition, garlic and onion taken as a steam relieve sinus pressure.

 

Nettle tea- antihistimine, rich in minerals. one cup

 

rosehips tea- rich in vit c- one cup (I usually mix one teaspoon rosehips with one teaspoon nettle and drink it all at once).

 

Grapeseed extract- one 50 mg capsule a day

My allergies and sinus problems are undercontrol. This means a lot- I live in a rainy climate and suffer from a mold allergy! I also have pollen allergies. One year, my immune system was so off kilter, I also got mono during allergy season. I was on prescription antihistimines which made the situation worse. These herbs support the whole body by inspiring it to heal. My allergies were also undercontrol when I lived in the midwest, which I understand to be the allergy capital

 

I am so happy you want to take control of the situation!

 

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Blowing out the ducts would help temporarily. As it is, I have to vacuum out the vents before we start up the system for the winter season. And even then, I have to go outside for a long while or else suffer severe asthma with allergic reactions.

 

Our furnace is in a partial basement with crawl space and you can see the mold hanging off the walls. Every time it runs, the mold spores are distributed through the house and the basement door, which is just a wooden closure fit into the wall that swells and shrinks with the weather. Though my allergy test showed not even slight allergies to mold, I'm sure its having an effect on my body. The main culprit, though, is dust. (Oh yea, I did test slightly allergic to cats--that was before we ended up with the stray kitten about six months ago. But those two were it.)

 

Thanks for vent-blowing suggestion. Something important to consider in our new home search. I think a hepa filter would be ineffective and not cost-efficient in our home because of the magnitude of our problem.

 

I have resumed taking Vitamins C and my antioxidant green tea with grape seed.

 

Any suggestions for immediate help in getting rid of constant post nasal drip? Mine has been worse since allergy season started--I've had a continual sore throat with swollen lymph glands for the past three weeks.

 

Brandy

shemaiah

 

 

 

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ErinJC23

herbal remedies

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 7:19 PM

Re: [herbal remedies] natural antihistamine

In a message dated 5/14/2003 2:21:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, shemaiah writes:

Tell you the truth, I think I'm allergic to my house. I've really noticed my problems since we moved in 5-6 years ago. It will be interesting to see how things change when we move into a new house, which will be as soon as we sell this one and find our new home.

BRandyPerhaps its the air quality in your house. I Would say if you were staying there longer you could have an air company blow out the air ducts. My parents had this done years back and it helped them.Erin

 

 

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Katherine Huether

herbal remedies

Thursday, May 15, 2003 3:03 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] natural antihistamine

 

I lived in an apartment that was infested with mold inside the walls. Nasty. I wouldn't stop the vitamin C and green tea, but I would add nettle and grapeseed extract to it. I think all the things seem to work together, but it may take a while for your body to start noticing big changes. It took me about a month. It isn't immediate, like Zyrtec was (that knocked me on my butt... and now I am traumatized against prescription antihitimines!) Do you own a hepa filter?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/16/2003 9:26:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, shemaiah writes:

 

 

Any suggestions for immediate help in getting rid of constant post nasal drip? Mine has been worse since allergy season started--I've had a continual sore throat with swollen lymph glands for the past three weeks.

 

This seems like a really simple answer but it works for some. Lemon juice in water. It may not taste the best but the lemon dries us excess mucous with the astringent properties. It has helped my dh clear up an annoying drip in his sinuses. You may want to try adding a little salt water to this if you can stomach it. Another plus to lemon water is that when you wake in the morning and drink lemon water on an empty stomach, it helps cleanse the liver from the night before, promoting it to dump the toxins out easier.

 

Erin

[Guest guest]

You're saying that a person who has asthma is really allergic to dairy and wheat, and that if the dairy and wheat are removed, the asthma will leave. Yet, I am allergic to dust and if I remove the dust, my asthma leaves--but you're saying I'm not really allergic to dust. I'm allergic to the dairy and wheat. But eating dairy and wheat cause no breathing problems for me. Hmmm.

 

I wasnt the original poster but just wanted to add my comments. I think asthma is individual. They have even discovered words in the lungs that have caused asthma! Some asthma is more of an allergy, and some may simply be a really weak respiratory system. I had never heard of dairy being an allergy to cause asthma but I do know diary can cause excess mucous, which can irritate bronchial/sinus problems, as it can lead to more congestion, or the fluids in the lungs/bronchial tubes not being to move out as fast.

Erin

[Guest guest]

Brandy,

 

I don't think it's so much an allergy to the dairy and wheat. See

dairy and wheat products cause the body to create excess mucus,

especially in the lungs. While this doesn't generally lead to

immediate breathing problems, it can damage the lungs over time. So,

when you are exposed to an allergen, your mucus filled damaged lungs

react violently and you get an asthma attack. I'm obviously

simplifying here, but I don't know how to explain it technically.

When you eliminate dairy and wheat you eliminate all this extra mucus

formation and allow the lungs to clear up and begin to work more

efficiently. The theory is (I think, I'm new to this) that once the

lungs are healed the asthma goes away even if you're still allergic

to dust. About a week and a half ago I cut way back on dairy

products, I'm at the point now where I only have one cup a yogurt in

the morning and that's it for dairy. But my system has cleared enough

that shortly after eating that cup of yogurt today I could feel how

clogged my throat is and I was clearing it for hours after. That's

all I need to convince me that dairy increases mucus formation and I

can see how this could be bad for the lungs.

 

Jaime

 

> You're saying that a person who has asthma is really allergic to

dairy and wheat, and that if the dairy and wheat are removed, the

asthma will leave. Yet, I am allergic to dust and if I remove the

dust, my asthma leaves--but you're saying I'm not really allergic to

dust. I'm allergic to the dairy and wheat. But eating dairy and

wheat cause no breathing problems for me. Hmmm.

>

> What I want to know is, if a body can be allergic to dairy and

wheat, causing asthma, why can't a body simply be allergic to dust,

causing asthma?

>

> Brandy

> shemaiah@l...

[Guest guest]

Buffered powdered C is a very good antihistamine and works in

minutes. Acidic vit C is not good for much more than eating the

enamel off of your teeth.

The lemon egg mixture on file looks like it would be a buffered C. I

buy the powder tho.

Ozone (pure oxygen) kills mold, you can buy one, or you can make

one. I use one and it's awsome.

Mold causes so many long term problems it would be worth the

investment either way.

bt

 

 

 

 

 

> I have resumed taking Vitamins C and my antioxidant green tea with

grape seed.

>

> Any suggestions for immediate help in getting rid of constant post

nasal drip? Mine has been worse since allergy season started--I've

had a continual sore throat with swollen lymph glands for the past

three weeks.

>

> Brandy

> shemaiah@l...

>

>

[Guest guest]

Brandy,

I must not have made myself clear, which isn't good because many

could benefit if I do, so I will try again.

Dairy and wheat cause asthma, not asthmatic attacks. The extreme

excessive amounts of mucous in your body from your current diet

harbors all sorts of wonderful little things. It is the perfect

envirnment for parasites of all kinds. It is creating much havok in

your body, and asthma is only one of them.

Allergies on the other hand are caused due to an impared immune

system. In other words you have allergies because your immune system

is not functioning properly, not because you have asthma.

This immune system impairement is known as Candida Albicans or

excessive yeast (fungus)in the body, which also love to live in all

the mucous you put into your body.

You do not have asthma because you have allergies, but when you have

an allergic reaction, it causes your asthma to flare due to the

weakened state of your lungs, which is the weakest part of your

body.

I know it isn't comfy to know that asthma is self inflicted, and I

do sense your defensiveness. I am quite used to it. It's like

telling the alcoholic they are an alcoholic, and I intend NO

sarcasm, just the way it is.

It's tough to know that to get rid of it you will have to change

your diet, not clean your room.

But then, there's always the alternative, keep sugar, wheat and

dairy in your diet, and spend your life avoiding the things

that " set the asthma off " , and seek out quick fixes for all of the

inevadable attacks, getting worse as the years go on.

I really hate to see people believe all the lies that homoginized,

perverted and stripped milk is actually good for them, as it isn't

good for anyone, but most especially you.

As I stated before, I removed dairy, sugar, wheat (basically went

onto the Candida Diet without removing the carbs, just changing them

for the better) to cure the 12 year old who had chronic asthma, and

a mucous cold type cough that never left him almost from the time of

birth (formula fed). He reacted to mold and pollens worse than

anything and his school is infested with 3 types of mold so bad it

grows out of the wall vents. And yes, he was cured to the point of

no longer reacting to that moldy school much less pollen. As was the

child with ADD so bad he was borderline autistic. Maybe you could

research a little more, only instead of typing asthma into the

search engine type in something like " reactions to dairy " or

something along those lines? When you are ready I would also like to

suggest to you to go to Sally Rockwell's web site and read a little

on Candida Albicans.

Hoping you choose health, and loving you even if your don't,

bt

 

 

asthma will leave. Yet, I am allergic to dust and if I remove the

dust, my asthma leaves--but you're saying I'm not really allergic to

dust. I'm allergic to the dairy and wheat. But eating dairy and

wheat cause no breathing problems for me. Hmmm.

>

> What I want to know is, if a body can be allergic to dairy and

wheat, causing asthma, why can't a body simply be allergic to dust,

causing asthma?

>

> Brandy