Guest guest Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 Jaime, I had " exercise induced asthma " until I was in my 20's. For myself, I found that when I cut out all dairy products I no longer had the problem. I grew up eating dairy products three times a day, and believe me, it was not doing my body good. Looking back, I can see that it was also the source of the perpetual runny nose and string of ear infections... It does take a while to rebuild the lungs though, which are unused to much strenuous exercise. Good luck! - dianne Message: 14 Tue, 06 May 2003 18:42:13 -0000 " wyverndance " <wyverndance Reactive Airway Disease Hi all.. about 3 years ago I was told I have reactive airway disease. This is sometimes called exercise induced asthma. Basically, when I elevate my heart rate to a certain point it sends a message to my lungs that I need more air and my lungs either do nothing or go in reverse and take in less. Means I pass out a lot if I work out and don't watch myself. Anyway... my doctor put me on an albuterol (sp?) inhaler to take about 20 minutes before I work out and it did allow me to breath, but it makes me super shaky (like can't write hands are shaking so bad shaky). Needless to say I don't use it anymore and just limit my activity (which sucks). Here's the root of this email, I'm not interested in controlling this condition, I want it fixed and " modern " medical science is not prepared to do that. They are great for treating symptoms, but the actual healing is generally done by your body all by itself. My question is if anyone know anything that can be done to correct this problem and fix my lungs? It's not sever, but I can't do some thing like ride a bike for more than a few minutes. Thanks, Jaime The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2003 Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 I suspect that I either have exercise induced asthma, or panic attacks (but I think it may actually be obvious if I am having panic attacks!!!) ... Anyway, I am in good shape and exercise almost every day, and walk everywhere because I live in Europe... but every now and then, I will get short of breathe and start coughing, then taking little short breaths... I feel the world get light but then I take a sniff of my herbal inhaler (used for colds) and I am much improved. I have also made my own smelling salts with epsom or dead sea salt in a closed container with about five drops each of peppermint and eucalyptus oil. Couldn't hurt.... (I don't think...) I feel these herbs open my airways and make me feel fresh. Do you work with chemicals an things at work? How is the air quality? Do you have allergies? I would also consider cutting out wheat and dairy. These overproduce mucous and could cause irritations. I would start with this, and go from there. Also, I believe that restricting activity is more harmful in the long run. Start simple and non-strenuous- with a walk at night or something. Gradually add time. I would also start a full body weight training program. Nothing complicated. Just one exercise each for every body part (fve pound weight is more than enough)... or if that sounds too strenuous try something like Pilates, there are some great exercise videos (Try any made by ana caban). Pilates would be good because it will help your posture and thus may help your breathing. As you get stronger you can add things with weights or bands. I would also consume a lot of garlic and sip peppermint tea throughout the day. Cut wheat and dairy out gradually so it is less of a shock to your system. I would also consider buying an aromatherapy diffuser and set it by your desk at work. Burn peppermint oil throughout the day. When I am having a bad sinus day I get my diffuser running and my symptoms are much controlled. Peppermint is my favorite oil/herb for anything respiratory because it makes me feel as if I am breathing clean, fresh air. I hope this helps! Kathywyverndance <wyverndance wrote: Hi all.. about 3 years ago I was told I have reactive airway disease. This is sometimes called exercise induced asthma. Basically, when I elevate my heart rate to a certain point it sends a message to my lungs that I need more air and my lungs either do nothing or go in reverse and take in less. Means I pass out a lot if I work out and don't watch myself. Anyway... my doctor put me on an albuterol (sp?) inhaler to take about 20 minutes before I work out and it did allow me to breath, but it makes me super shaky (like can't write hands are shaking so bad shaky). Needless to say I don't use it anymore and just limit my activity (which sucks). Here's the root of this email, I'm not interested in controlling this condition, I want it fixed and "modern" medical science is not prepared to do that. They are great for treating symptoms, but the actual healing is generally done by your body all by itself. My question is if anyone know anything that can be done to correct this problem and fix my lungs? It's not sever, but I can't do some thing like ride a bike for more than a few minutes.Thanks,JaimeFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2003 Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 Jaime, RE: > > You're the second person who has mentioned dairy. I'll try cutting > back. But I can't stand soy milk so I supposed I'll need some calcium > supplements. Attached please find my list of calcium tips and sources. You do not need calcium supplements if you don't drink milk or enriched soy milk. Neither are very good sources, no matter what the government is trying to make you believe! And note that these sources are all non-dairy (the dairy on the list is just for comparison sake). Calcium: What You Always Wanted To Know And More... " Calcium is a buffer, meaning that it helps to regulate acidity in the blood. It has been found that people who consume diets that are high in animal proteins have a higher TISSUE acidity level and are more prone to fractures and related bone conditions. This is because the HIGHER TISSUE acidity requires calcium to be leached from the bones to control the acid levels. So the first step to increasing bone density and calcium levels is reducing the amount of meat AND DAIRY consumed. " Keep in mind that once calcium is released from the bones to balance TISSUE acidity levels it cannot be reabsorbed and is excreted in the urine. " Acid foods like juice cause the body to leach calcium from the bones. So stay away from juice or greatly reduce your intake, even if they claim to be good sources of calcium. They are not. The amount of calcium added to the juices do not compensate for the amount that is being lost as a result of consuming them. CALCIUM ABSORPTION REQUIRES SUFFICIENT ACIDITY TO BE PRESENT IN THE STOMACH AND THEREFORE SMALL QUANTITIES OF ORGANIC ACIDS SUCH AS LEMON JUICE, APPLE CIDER VINAGER, OR VITAMIN C ARE HELPFUL IN INCREASING CALCIUM ABSORPTION. " If you must take calcium supplements, make sure that they have at least equal amounts of magnesium. (CHECK LABEL FOR AMOUNT OF " ELEMENTAL CALCIUM AND MAGNESIUM " ) MAKE SURE THESE SUPPLEMENTS ALSO CONTAIN VIT. D. " Vitamin D is critical for the absorption of calcium at the level of the intestine, so get regular exposure to sunlight. Although the body has long term stores of Vitamin D so you don't have to stress out about not getting enough light in the winter, YOU MAY NEED TO TAKE A VIT. D SUPPLEMENT IN THE WINTER, ESP. IF YOU ARE NOT CONSUMING FISH. " Studies have shown that after menopause vitamink K helps with the absorption of calcium. Vitamin K is manufactured by the beneficial bacteria in your gut, so it is recommended to regularly consume beneficial bacteria like acidophilus. Acidophilus can be taken in supplement form and it is also found in properly fermented yogourts (eat organic wherever possible and try to stay away from ultra-filtered yogourt). VITAMIN K IS ALSO VERY PREVALENT IN GREEN LEAFY VEGETABLES. " The high phosphorus in soft drinks seems to be related to high incidences of fractures even in kids, so stay away from all carbonated drinks, ESPECIALLY DIET DRINKS WITH THOSE HORRIBLE SUGAR SUBSITUTES. Cola drinks are especially bad as they have the added PROBLEM of being high in caffeine, but all carbonated drinks (including mineral waters) should be avoided. Also keep in mind that one can of regular pop has 8 teaspoons of white sugar AND INCREASES TISSUE ACIDITY. " Acidic foods help to increase the ability of calcium to be absorbed by the body. Examples of benefical acids are Vitamin C (ALL VEGETABLES FROM THE CABBAGE FAMILY ARE HIGH IN VIT. C), citric acid (ie - lemon juice), lactic acid (found in yogourt, sauerkraut and other fermented foods), sourdough, and vinegar (NOT white vinegar - it is good for washing windows but nothing else. Apple cider vinegar is a properly aged vinegar). The acid of the stomach also helps, of course. All minerals have to be broken apart to be able to be absorbed and this is what these acids do. " Do not smoke, and do not drink ALCOHOL. These two bad habits can seriously impair your ability to absorb calcium (and your overall health for a multitude of reasons). " A word regarding the phytic acid controversy: phytic acid is found in graines and legumes and it has been purported to interfere with the absorption of calcium, but this has not been proven. Do not avoid grains and legumes as they are a CRUCIAL part of a well-balanced diet. Here are some great sources of calcium. For the sake of comparison I am putting milk on the list just so you can see that it is NOT the best source of the mineral, contrary to what the dairy boards would have you believe. I am not a milk proponent and do not drink it myself. Yogourt and hard cheeses are preferable and acceptable forms of that food, but do not rely on them for your calcium intake. If you regularly eat a lot of the foods on the list below and make a concerted effort to reduce your intake of animal proteins you can easily meat your calcium needs. IT HAS BEEN FOUND THAT THE CALCIUM FROM GREEN VEGETABLES IS THE ONE THAT IS BEST ABSORBED BY THE BODY, SO MAKE SURE YOU GET AT LEAST ONE TO TWO PORTIONS OF THESE FOODS DAILY Keep in mind that calcium requirements for meat eaters are a lot higher than for vegetarians AND ARE THE BASIS ON WHICH GOVERNMENTS HAVE BASED THEIR RECOMMENDED INTAKE FOR CALCIUM. MOST VEGETABLES SOURCES OF CALCIUM ARE ALSO GOOD SOURCES OF MAGNESIUM AS WELL AS OTHER MINERALS IMPORTANT FOR STRONG BONES. CalciUm amounts indicated in mg/100g of food: Cow's milk 130 Goat's milk 140 Cheddar cheese 740 Chick peas 150 Whole sugar (succanat) 90 Soya beans 280 Carob 290 Sardines with bones 300 Sesame seeds (ground - tahini or butter) 1300 (!!!!) Almonds 250 Hazelnuts 220 Brazil nuts 150 Sunflower seeds 90 Sprouted barley 280 sprouted wheat 180 Amaranth 150 Quinoa 60 Turnip greens 420 Collard greens 420 Broccolli 120 Cabbage 120 Kale somewhere from 120 - 400 Seaweeds (1/4 c. cooked) Hijiki 152 Wakame 130 Kombu 76.4 Tofu (calcium set) 138 Tempeh (1/2 c cooked) 129 Egg (1 whole) 24mg Figs (dried) 170 apricots (dried) 90 dates (dried) 80 raisins (dried) 60 Note: Swiss chard, beet tops and cocoa are also great sources of calcium but should not be consumed more than once a week because they contain high levels of oxalic acid which can interfere with calcium absorption. SESAME SEEDS ALSO CONTAIN OXALIC ACID, BUT HAVE SO MUCH CALCIUM THAT MORE FREQUENT CONSUMPTION IS FINE. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2003 Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 Oh, and I forgot to mention that herbal teas like oat straw and nettle are EXCELLENT sources of calcium and magnesium, along with a whole host of other trace minerals and vitamins. i've been drinking oat straw, nettle, red clover and red raspberry for a good six months now and my fingernails and teeth have never been so white. ILANA xoxox Ilana Grostern wrote: Jaime, RE: You're the second person who has mentioned dairy. I'll try cutting back. But I can't stand soy milk so I supposed I'll need some calcium supplements. Attached please find my list of calcium tips and sources. You do not need calcium supplements if you don't drink milk or enriched soy milk. Neither are very good sources, no matter what the government is trying to make you believe! And note that these sources are all non-dairy (the dairy on the list is just for comparison sake). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2003 Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 We use Quercetin and Nettle here. Daily for a year, now just during winter months. Not an out and out cure yet but it seems to be getting there. We've noticed a signifiganct lessining of attacks. Kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2003 Report Share Posted May 8, 2003 Jaime, If you want to cut out dairy, and don't like soy milk (besides which it's not recommended by Doc as an alternative) try almond milk. Tastes great! You can make it yourself quite easily: Take 100gr of raw organic almonds (leave the skin on), and soak them overnight (12 hours) in (distilled) water. In the morning, put the almonds + soaking water in a blender and fill up to 1 liter with additional water if needed. Add honey, and a little vanilla (for taste) if you want, and blend. And there's your milk! You can strain through a cheese cloth then if you like. love, Lisa - wyverndance herbal remedies Wednesday, May 07, 2003 2:09 PM [herbal remedies] Re: Reactive Airway Disease herbal remedies , Katherine Huether <kohwriter> wrote:"I will get short of breathe and start coughing, then taking little short breaths... I feel the world get light"Fortunately I know my symptoms well enough these days to stop myself before I actually black out. I feel generally short of breath when I climb stairs, ride a stationary bike.. anything that really gets the legs going hard (largest muscles so it's the biggest strain on my body) but I know to stop when I start seeing gold flecks, then the edges of my vision go black, eventually tunnel and if I haven't stopped at that point to put my head between my knees, I'll pass out. I do try to walk every day and take the stairs even if I need to pause. I'm not overweight do at least that isn't against me."I have also made my own smelling salts with epsom or dead sea salt in a closed container with about five drops each of peppermint and eucalyptus oil."Sounds like a very healing combination. Maybe a steam before I work out would help..."Do you work with chemicals an things at work? How is the air quality? Do you have allergies?"I've never been diagnosed with allergies, but I know I never blacked out before I moved to Illinois (near St. Louis) and I don't think it started until sometime after a suffered a couple years of near continuous strep throat (caught it 8 times in 2 years). So maybe that damaged something. I've been living or working in and around St. Louis since '85 and we don't exactly have the cleanest air. I work in computers, so I'm around that all day and pretty sedentary at work. I used to bartend for a few years in college and I'm sure the smoke exposure didn't help, plus my dad was a smoker so it was around the house a lot as a kid (he's about a 3 pack a day habit)."I would also consider cutting out wheat and dairy. These overproduce mucous and could cause irritations."You're the second person who has mentioned dairy. I'll try cutting back. But I can't stand soy milk so I supposed I'll need some calcium supplements."or if that sounds too strenuous try something like Pilates"I have a video at home I haven't done in awhile. She practices this "breath of fire" thing which really expands the lungs.Thanks for the input!Jaime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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