New to the group and need some help.

February 14, 2003

Welcome George... sound like you need to talk to Doc (Ian Shillington) you can email him direct (or he will see this post - he was just out of town and catching up) or call him - his number is in the files under a "Free Call" I'm sure he can get you on the right track to health.

Suzi

"George <quillca" <quillca wrote:

Hi folks just thought I would send off a hello and let you know a bit about myself. Over the years I have been plagued with a Ulcer. I have been going to a specialist for three years. I have had the treatment of antiobiotic for H Pylori and it cleaned up the ulcer. I still have had a heck of time with pain. The specialsit has taken every test under the sun. Endoscopy. gall blatter, exrays, you name it. Every thing seems ok and looks ok. But I am still getting a knawing pain in the middle of my stomach and radiates into my back. The pain is mostly toward my right just under my rib cage,center of my stomach. I started going to a naturalist about a year ago. I went off the Losec that I was on from the specialist and have stayed off it for almost a year. I thought I was doing real well there for awhile but the last few months has been real bad. with pain again in the same place. It first started with real bad acid burning. I took a few losec again and the pain subisided but now is back and doesn't want to go away again. I am still taking the naturalist medicines hoping it will help. I am taking right now 1 Herbal Gi after breakfast then a small white pill under the tung midmorning suppose to help with the big picture and calm me down a bit. At lunch I take one M7+ Plant Ensyme before I eat. Same at supper but right after supper I take a Herbal GI Vegetable Capsule. Thats about it. I hope I am not being a bother. I just thought I would see if I can find out some help on my own. If any one has any help or been through what I have I would sure like to hear from them. You can also reach me at my home email quillca if you so wish. I should say we have been under a lot of stress this past year with business and all so that has probably got some to do with it but I am sure getting tired of suffering as is it has been for fourty years now. Well thanks and again if I am in the wrong place I appoligise for this post. Taker easy. George Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

February 14, 2003

Hi George,

Can you get cayenne where you live? If so, I would suggest that you get some of the hottest cayenne (habenero) you can get and begin taking it straight (not in capsule form). You can mix it with fresh juices (vegetable) or take it in some hot water. Begin with 1/8 to 1/4 teaspoon taken 3 times a day and work your way up to at least 1 teaspoonfull 3 times per day. Contrary to popular belief, cayenne will not harm your stomach and will actually help heal an ulcer. Cayenne is one of our most versatile and safest foods/herbs. It will stop bleeding within seconds, relieve the pain of an ulcer and help to bring heal the ulcerated tissues. This is my suggestion. I do not know what other herbs you can get where you are but if you can get some Slippery Elm that will help immensely as well.

If you have any more questions, feel free to ask. You are never in the wrong place. No matter where you are you are where you belong. Right now you belong here and we will endeavor to help you in any way we can. This is what we are here for.

HTH,

Don Quai

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George <quillca

herbal remedies

Friday, February 14, 2003 7:00 PM

[herbal remedies] New to the group and need some help.

Hi folks just thought I would send off a hello and let you know a bit about myself. Over the years I have been plagued with a Ulcer. I have been going to a specialist for three years. I have had the treatment of antiobiotic for H Pylori and it cleaned up the ulcer. I still have had a heck of time with pain. The specialsit has taken every test under the sun. Endoscopy. gall blatter, exrays, you name it. Every thing seems ok and looks ok. But I am still getting a knawing pain in the middle of my stomach and radiates into my back. The pain is mostly toward my right just under my rib cage,center of my stomach. I started going to a naturalist about a year ago. I went off the Losec that I was on from the specialist and have stayed off it for almost a year. I thought I was doing real well there for awhile but the last few months has been real bad. with pain again in the same place. It first started with real bad acid burning. I took a few losec again and the pain subisided but now is back and doesn't want to go away again. I am still taking the naturalist medicines hoping it will help. I am taking right now 1 Herbal Gi after breakfast then a small white pill under the tung midmorning suppose to help with the big picture and calm me down a bit. At lunch I take one M7+ Plant Ensyme before I eat. Same at supper but right after supper I take a Herbal GI Vegetable Capsule. Thats about it. I hope I am not being a bother. I just thought I would see if I can find out some help on my own. If any one has any help or been through what I have I would sure like to hear from them. You can also reach me at my home email quillca if you so wish. I should say we have been under a lot of stress this past year with business and all so that has probably got some to do with it but I am sure getting tired of suffering as is it has been for fourty years now. Well thanks and again if I am in the wrong place I appoligise for this post. Taker easy. George Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

February 14, 2003

George, sounds like liver/gall bladder problems. Definitely should consider a cleanse, but first call Doc so he can get you through this and back to good health

Janet

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George <quillca

herbal remedies

Friday, February 14, 2003 10:00 AM

[herbal remedies] New to the group and need some help.

Hi folks just thought I would send off a hello and let you know a bit about myself. Over the years I have been plagued with a Ulcer. I have been going to a specialist for three years. I have had the treatment of antiobiotic for H Pylori and it cleaned up the ulcer. I still have had a heck of time with pain. The specialsit has taken every test under the sun. Endoscopy. gall blatter, exrays, you name it. Every thing seems ok and looks ok. But I am still getting a knawing pain in the middle of my stomach and radiates into my back. The pain is mostly toward my right just under my rib cage,center of my stomach. I started going to a naturalist about a year ago. I went off the Losec that I was on from the specialist and have stayed off it for almost a year. I thought I was doing real well there for awhile but the last few months has been real bad. with pain again in the same place. It first started with real bad acid burning. I took a few losec again and the pain subisided but now is back and doesn't want to go away again. I am still taking the naturalist medicines hoping it will help. I am taking right now 1 Herbal Gi after breakfast then a small white pill under the tung midmorning suppose to help with the big picture and calm me down a bit. At lunch I take one M7+ Plant Ensyme before I eat. Same at supper but right after supper I take a Herbal GI Vegetable Capsule. Thats about it. I hope I am not being a bother. I just thought I would see if I can find out some help on my own. If any one has any help or been through what I have I would sure like to hear from them. You can also reach me at my home email quillca if you so wish. I should say we have been under a lot of stress this past year with business and all so that has probably got some to do with it but I am sure getting tired of suffering as is it has been for fourty years now. Well thanks and again if I am in the wrong place I appoligise for this post. Taker easy. George Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

February 15, 2003

Dear George,

The place to begin would be with my cassette lecture. Send me a private comm with your snail mail addy and full name, and I'll have my office fire one off to you.

From what I can see (from what you've written below), I'd be willing to bet that enzyme inhibitors are playing a major part in all of this.

Send me a note.

Love,

Doc

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

"George <quillca" <quillca wrote: Hi folks just thought I would send off a hello and let you know a bit about myself. Over the years I have been plagued with a Ulcer. I have been going to a specialist for three years. I have had the treatment of antiobiotic for H Pylori and it cleaned up the ulcer. I still have had a heck of time with pain. The specialsit has taken every test under the sun. Endoscopy. gall blatter, exrays, you name it. Every thing seems ok and looks ok. But I am still getting a knawing pain in the middle of my stomach and radiates into my back. The pain is mostly toward my right just under my rib cage,center of my stomach. I started going to a naturalist about a year ago. I went off the Losec that I was on from the specialist and have stayed off it for almost a year. I thought I was doing real well there for awhile but the last few months has been real bad. with pain again in the same place. It first started with real bad acid burning. I took a few losec again and the pain subisided but now is back and doesn't want to go away again. I am still taking the naturalist medicines hoping it will help. I am taking right now 1 Herbal Gi after breakfast then a small white pill under the tung midmorning suppose to help with the big picture and calm me down a bit. At lunch I take one M7+ Plant Ensyme before I eat. Same at supper but right after supper I take a Herbal GI Vegetable Capsule. Thats about it. I hope I am not being a bother. I just thought I would see if I can find out some help on my own. If any one has any help or been through what I have I would sure like to hear from them. You can also reach me at my home email quillca if you so wish. I should say we have been under a lot of stress this past year with business and all so that has probably got some to do with it but I am sure getting tired of suffering as is it has been for fourty years now. Well thanks and again if I am in the wrong place I appoligise for this post. Taker easy. George