suggestions...aluminum toxicity/food allergies

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the suggestion, Suzi. Three of us chelated (got rid

of) the aluminum to safe limits but two of us (specifically my dd

and I) were improved but still quite elevated at last testing.

During these past couple of years we have done lots of treatments-

oral and IV chelation, nutritional, detoxing- everything we knew of

that would help we did it. I am interested in the blood detox you

suggested however, I was unable to locate what I thought you were

talking about in the files. Any suggestions on how to find it?

 

Aluminum is incredibly difficult to detox. Thats why so many people

store it in their brains and it shows up as possible causative

factors in alhiemers- ugh! If anyone has any suggestions I am

certainly interested!

 

Love in Christ,

Cindy

herbal remedies , Suzanne Nottmeier

<suziesgoats> wrote:

>

> You know, it sounds like if you get rid of the aluminum/metal in

your body you probably won't be allergic to all those foods... have

you thought about a blood detox? It's in the files...

> Suzi

> " luv3kidsdc <luv3kidsdc> " <luv3kidsdc> wrote:Hi Ilana!

>

> Thank you for your post. Yes, we all (5 of us) have those

allergies.

> Each one of us have nearly the exact same ones and at the same

> degree of reaction.

>

> I can relate to your story about your reaction. Thank you for

> sharing that. I will look for that book when we get back to the

> states. We return for good at the end of March. Yippie!

>

> Yes, we had an indepth hair analyisis done. We have had four of

them

> and had our last one done when we were in the states for the

> holidays. We are still awaiting those results (waiting for

> international mail from my Dr.s office- groan- its bad enough

trying

> to get a phone call living in the states). Our hair analysis is

run

> through Great Smokies Diagnosic Center and they do an excellent

job

> with it. They even cross test for variables like hair preparations

> that can give false positives.

>

> We all had heavy metal poisoning and since then we have all had

> these allergy issues. I am convinced the two are linked.

>

> Love in Christ,

> Cindy

> herbal remedies , Ilana Grostern

> wrote:

> > Cindy,

> > Your ENTIRE family has all those allergies?? How many of you are

> there?

> > I've never heard of that before.

> >

> > I hear what you're saying about chronic allergies. About a year

> and a

> > half ago I started having chronic upper stomach pain and of

course

> > testing showed nothing (the medical community only recognizes

two

> types

> > of antibody reactions as far as I know, and these are called IgE

> and IgG

> > - I think - but there are whole bunch of different kinds of

> reactions

> > that happen in the body as well. Read Allergies: Disease in

> Disguise by

> > Carolee Bateson-Koch for further clarification if you're

> interested.

> > It's too technical for me to explain fully, I apologize). So I

> went to

> > my naturopath who suggested a strict diet of whole foods, tons

of

> > veggies and no sugar, and lo and behold, my symptoms cleared up

> within a

> > month and I have been pain-free for almost a year now! The

problem

> is, I

> > don't know what caused the reaction and I might never know. The

> body is

> > SUCH a complicated mechanism.

> >

> > In my humble and very non-expert opinion I'd say that this is

more

> than

> > simply allergies. You indicated the aluminum poisoning problem.

> How was

> > this determined? Did you do hair analysis? I don't know where

you

> are

> > the world, but I've heard of a program in Britain called

Foresight

> that

> > does some very in depth mineral and heavy metal analyses. I

think

> we

> > need more info from you, though, as to how you were all

diagnosed.

> >

> > Love,

> > ILANA xoxo

> >

> > luv3kidsdc wrote:

> >

> > > Hi Donald!

> > >

> > > Whew! It was more like what food allergies we didnt have. It

was

> > > awful! Our physician did the antibody blood test. It is done

> with a

> > > simple blood draw and is run through Alletess Medical. I

thought

> the

> > > test results were in error when we first got them as so many

> foods

> > > turned up as allergins (corn, nearly every grain imaginable

> except

> > > rice- even strange ones I wasnt familiar with, all dairy-

cheese,

> > > milk, etc, yeast, several citrus chocolate, soy, sugarcane,

etc,

> > > etc! Several of us also had severe environmental allergies that

> > > worsened with allergy shots. We were a bit of a mess to say the

> > > least. Anyway, within an hour of seeing those test results I

> cried,

> > > went to disbelief, then decided to give it a 1 week trial of

> giving

> > > up the foods that showed an allergy.

> > >

> > > I went from tears to elation as chronic headaches, asthma,

> chronic

> > > congestion and digestive disturbances cleared up within 2 or 3

> days.

> > > I no longer doubted the testings. We were free of the symptoms

as

> > > long as we stayed off those foods. Gradually, we were able to

add

> > > them back in on a rotating basis but,,,,, I failed to rotate

the

> > > other foods. I was using garlic, and onions for MSM as a detox

as

> > > they bind radicals. We were also using apples for the same

> purpose.

> > > We ate them daily but.... after having digestive issues crop

> back I

> > > knew it was time for a new allergy test. We live abroad so I

> wasnt

> > > sure if it was an allergy or bad water. Turns out its these new

> > > allergies and we also developed an allergy to the apples we ate

> > > every day as well.

> > >

> > > In answer to your question, " what changed " the allergies,

several

> > > things had a bearing. We had a nasty case of aluminum

poisioning.

> > > UGH. Our numbers were over double the max limit. If any of you

> have

> > > alumnium cookware, PLEASE throw it out! After 10 years of use

it

> can

> > > leach into the food. The way it affected our allergies was to

> wreck

> > > havoc with our immune system. So we became hyper responsive to

> > > ordinary foods. What we needed to do was to strengthen our

immune

> > > system, detox, strengthen our liver and eat as healthy as

> possible.

> > > We were also under medical treatment from our physician for the

> > > aluminum poisioning. All those things combined along with

> bouncing

> > > to facilitate lymph flow, and many other things and our

allergies

> > > have been decreased by approx 75% within about 1 and a half

> years. I

> > > dont know what had the greatest bearing but I suspect healthy

> eating

> > > and good old fashioned exercise helped the most.

> > >

> > > Looks like there is one last question. In retrospect, I can

see

> it

> > > would have been more organized had I followed your number

> approach.

> > > I hope this response isnt too chaotic (smile).Our family eats

> alot

> > > of fresh fruits, veg, fish and lean meats. We couldnt go

> vegetarian

> > > because of the soy and inablility to get protien but the soy

> allergy

> > > is now gone so maybe we will cut back on some meat. We dont eat

> > > processed, refined, or fried foods.

> > >

> > > Its been a journey to say the least. I took nutrition in

college

> so

> > > we always ate healthy but we have had to dulge deeper because

of

> our

> > > medical issues. I am glad though, that there are aspects of our

> > > health we can take charge of and positively affect through

> healthy

> > > eating patterns and careful diligence to the toxins we are

able

> to

> > > avoid.

> > >

> > > If anyone out there suffers from CHRONIC congestion, chronic

> > > headaches, or chronic digestive issues (particularly in the

> middle

> > > of the abdominal area just above the navel- not to the sides)

you

> > > may want to rule out food allergies. Allergies have increased

> 50% in

> > > the past 10 years worldwide and it is important to identify and

> > > eliminate the allergin triggers while strenthening the immune

> > > system. Its no fun having chronic discomfort so it is good to

try

> > > what you can to identify and eliminate these problems.

> > >

> > > Love in Christ,

> > > Cindy

> > >

> > >

> > > herbal remedies , " Donald Eitner "

> > > wrote:

> > > > Hi Cindy,

> > > >

> > > > Just curious but 1. What food allergies did your family

have?

> 2.

> > > What changed that allowed them to dramatically recover? 3. Why

do

> > > you believe that you are all now allergic to onions, garlic,

> cabbage

> > > and carrots? 4. Which tests are you using and who is

> administering

> > > them? 5. What does your family eat normally?

> > > >

> > > > Very curious and slightly perplexed,

> > > >

> > > > Don Quai

> > > > -

> > > > luv3kidsdc

> > > > herbal remedies

> > > > Monday, January 27, 2003 7:35 AM

> > > > [herbal remedies] Looking for suggestions....

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi!

> > > >

> > > > I recieved some good news with my families food allergies

> but...

> > > had

> > > > some negative news too. Was wondering if anyone has any

> ideas...

> > > >

> > > > Test results just showed that my family recovered

> dramatically

> > > from

> > > > extensive food allergies. Yay! The bad part is that most of

> the

> > > > foods we have been using to flavor our food are now new

> > > allergins.

> > > > UGH! Onions, garlic, cabbage, carrots were daily a part of

> our

> > > diet

> > > > and now we cant eat them anymore.

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Cindy,

 

It is my opinion that aluminum is actually pretty easy to detox from.

Homeopathics are great for removing heavy metals. Homeopathics are

different from Western drugs because you have to take the rememdies

for a bit longer, but because of this they are very gentle. I have

used Alumina (homeopathic for aluminum) from Kroeger Herbs with good

results.

 

Mary Ann

 

 

 

herbal remedies , " luv3kidsdc <luv3kidsdc> "

<luv3kidsdc> wrote:

> Thank you for the suggestion, Suzi. Three of us chelated (got rid

> of) the aluminum to safe limits but two of us (specifically my dd

> and I) were improved but still quite elevated at last testing.

> During these past couple of years we have done lots of treatments-

> oral and IV chelation, nutritional, detoxing- everything we knew of

> that would help we did it. I am interested in the blood detox you

> suggested however, I was unable to locate what I thought you were

> talking about in the files. Any suggestions on how to find it?

>

> Aluminum is incredibly difficult to detox. Thats why so many people

> store it in their brains and it shows up as possible causative

> factors in alhiemers- ugh! If anyone has any suggestions I am

> certainly interested!

>

> Love in Christ,

> Cindy

> herbal remedies , Suzanne Nottmeier

> <suziesgoats> wrote:

> >

> > You know, it sounds like if you get rid of the aluminum/metal in

> your body you probably won't be allergic to all those foods... have

> you thought about a blood detox? It's in the files...

> > Suzi

> > " luv3kidsdc <luv3kidsdc> " <luv3kidsdc> wrote:Hi Ilana!

> >

> > Thank you for your post. Yes, we all (5 of us) have those

> allergies.

> > Each one of us have nearly the exact same ones and at the same

> > degree of reaction.

> >

> > I can relate to your story about your reaction. Thank you for

> > sharing that. I will look for that book when we get back to the

> > states. We return for good at the end of March. Yippie!

> >

> > Yes, we had an indepth hair analyisis done. We have had four of

> them

> > and had our last one done when we were in the states for the

> > holidays. We are still awaiting those results (waiting for

> > international mail from my Dr.s office- groan- its bad enough

> trying

> > to get a phone call living in the states). Our hair analysis is

> run

> > through Great Smokies Diagnosic Center and they do an excellent

> job

> > with it. They even cross test for variables like hair preparations

> > that can give false positives.

> >

> > We all had heavy metal poisoning and since then we have all had

> > these allergy issues. I am convinced the two are linked.

> >

> > Love in Christ,

> > Cindy

> > herbal remedies , Ilana Grostern

> > wrote:

> > > Cindy,

> > > Your ENTIRE family has all those allergies?? How many of you are

> > there?

> > > I've never heard of that before.

> > >

> > > I hear what you're saying about chronic allergies. About a year

> > and a

> > > half ago I started having chronic upper stomach pain and of

> course

> > > testing showed nothing (the medical community only recognizes

> two

> > types

> > > of antibody reactions as far as I know, and these are called IgE

> > and IgG

> > > - I think - but there are whole bunch of different kinds of

> > reactions

> > > that happen in the body as well. Read Allergies: Disease in

> > Disguise by

> > > Carolee Bateson-Koch for further clarification if you're

> > interested.

> > > It's too technical for me to explain fully, I apologize). So I

> > went to

> > > my naturopath who suggested a strict diet of whole foods, tons

> of

> > > veggies and no sugar, and lo and behold, my symptoms cleared up

> > within a

> > > month and I have been pain-free for almost a year now! The

> problem

> > is, I

> > > don't know what caused the reaction and I might never know. The

> > body is

> > > SUCH a complicated mechanism.

> > >

> > > In my humble and very non-expert opinion I'd say that this is

> more

> > than

> > > simply allergies. You indicated the aluminum poisoning problem.

> > How was

> > > this determined? Did you do hair analysis? I don't know where

> you

> > are

> > > the world, but I've heard of a program in Britain called

> Foresight

> > that

> > > does some very in depth mineral and heavy metal analyses. I

> think

> > we

> > > need more info from you, though, as to how you were all

> diagnosed.

> > >

> > > Love,

> > > ILANA xoxo

> > >

> > > luv3kidsdc wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hi Donald!

> > > >

> > > > Whew! It was more like what food allergies we didnt have. It

> was

> > > > awful! Our physician did the antibody blood test. It is done

> > with a

> > > > simple blood draw and is run through Alletess Medical. I

> thought

> > the

> > > > test results were in error when we first got them as so many

> > foods

> > > > turned up as allergins (corn, nearly every grain imaginable

> > except

> > > > rice- even strange ones I wasnt familiar with, all dairy-

> cheese,

> > > > milk, etc, yeast, several citrus chocolate, soy, sugarcane,

> etc,

> > > > etc! Several of us also had severe environmental allergies

that

> > > > worsened with allergy shots. We were a bit of a mess to say

the

> > > > least. Anyway, within an hour of seeing those test results I

> > cried,

> > > > went to disbelief, then decided to give it a 1 week trial of

> > giving

> > > > up the foods that showed an allergy.

> > > >

> > > > I went from tears to elation as chronic headaches, asthma,

> > chronic

> > > > congestion and digestive disturbances cleared up within 2 or 3

> > days.

> > > > I no longer doubted the testings. We were free of the symptoms

> as

> > > > long as we stayed off those foods. Gradually, we were able to

> add

> > > > them back in on a rotating basis but,,,,, I failed to rotate

> the

> > > > other foods. I was using garlic, and onions for MSM as a detox

> as

> > > > they bind radicals. We were also using apples for the same

> > purpose.

> > > > We ate them daily but.... after having digestive issues crop

> > back I

> > > > knew it was time for a new allergy test. We live abroad so I

> > wasnt

> > > > sure if it was an allergy or bad water. Turns out its these

new

> > > > allergies and we also developed an allergy to the apples we

ate

> > > > every day as well.

> > > >

> > > > In answer to your question, " what changed " the allergies,

> several

> > > > things had a bearing. We had a nasty case of aluminum

> poisioning.

> > > > UGH. Our numbers were over double the max limit. If any of you

> > have

> > > > alumnium cookware, PLEASE throw it out! After 10 years of use

> it

> > can

> > > > leach into the food. The way it affected our allergies was to

> > wreck

> > > > havoc with our immune system. So we became hyper responsive to

> > > > ordinary foods. What we needed to do was to strengthen our

> immune

> > > > system, detox, strengthen our liver and eat as healthy as

> > possible.

> > > > We were also under medical treatment from our physician for

the

> > > > aluminum poisioning. All those things combined along with

> > bouncing

> > > > to facilitate lymph flow, and many other things and our

> allergies

> > > > have been decreased by approx 75% within about 1 and a half

> > years. I

> > > > dont know what had the greatest bearing but I suspect healthy

> > eating

> > > > and good old fashioned exercise helped the most.

> > > >

> > > > Looks like there is one last question. In retrospect, I can

> see

> > it

> > > > would have been more organized had I followed your number

> > approach.

> > > > I hope this response isnt too chaotic (smile).Our family eats

> > alot

> > > > of fresh fruits, veg, fish and lean meats. We couldnt go

> > vegetarian

> > > > because of the soy and inablility to get protien but the soy

> > allergy

> > > > is now gone so maybe we will cut back on some meat. We dont

eat

> > > > processed, refined, or fried foods.

> > > >

> > > > Its been a journey to say the least. I took nutrition in

> college

> > so

> > > > we always ate healthy but we have had to dulge deeper because

> of

> > our

> > > > medical issues. I am glad though, that there are aspects of

our

> > > > health we can take charge of and positively affect through

> > healthy

> > > > eating patterns and careful diligence to the toxins we are

> able

> > to

> > > > avoid.

> > > >

> > > > If anyone out there suffers from CHRONIC congestion, chronic

> > > > headaches, or chronic digestive issues (particularly in the

> > middle

> > > > of the abdominal area just above the navel- not to the sides)

> you

> > > > may want to rule out food allergies. Allergies have increased

> > 50% in

> > > > the past 10 years worldwide and it is important to identify

and

> > > > eliminate the allergin triggers while strenthening the immune

> > > > system. Its no fun having chronic discomfort so it is good to

> try

> > > > what you can to identify and eliminate these problems.

> > > >

> > > > Love in Christ,

> > > > Cindy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > herbal remedies , " Donald Eitner "

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Hi Cindy,

> > > > >

> > > > > Just curious but 1. What food allergies did your family

> have?

> > 2.

> > > > What changed that allowed them to dramatically recover? 3. Why

> do

> > > > you believe that you are all now allergic to onions, garlic,

> > cabbage

> > > > and carrots? 4. Which tests are you using and who is

> > administering

> > > > them? 5. What does your family eat normally?

> > > > >

> > > > > Very curious and slightly perplexed,

> > > > >

> > > > > Don Quai

> > > > > -

> > > > > luv3kidsdc

> > > > > herbal remedies

> > > > > Monday, January 27, 2003 7:35 AM

> > > > > [herbal remedies] Looking for suggestions....

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi!

> > > > >

> > > > > I recieved some good news with my families food allergies

> > but...

> > > > had

> > > > > some negative news too. Was wondering if anyone has any

> > ideas...

> > > > >

> > > > > Test results just showed that my family recovered

> > dramatically

> > > > from

> > > > > extensive food allergies. Yay! The bad part is that most of

> > the

> > > > > foods we have been using to flavor our food are now new

> > > > allergins.

> > > > > UGH! Onions, garlic, cabbage, carrots were daily a part of

> > our

> > > > diet

> > > > > and now we cant eat them anymore.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >