Guest guest Posted January 27, 2003 Report Share Posted January 27, 2003 Hi Donald! Whew! It was more like what food allergies we didnt have. It was awful! Our physician did the antibody blood test. It is done with a simple blood draw and is run through Alletess Medical. I thought the test results were in error when we first got them as so many foods turned up as allergins (corn, nearly every grain imaginable except rice- even strange ones I wasnt familiar with, all dairy- cheese, milk, etc, yeast, several citrus chocolate, soy, sugarcane, etc, etc! Several of us also had severe environmental allergies that worsened with allergy shots. We were a bit of a mess to say the least. Anyway, within an hour of seeing those test results I cried, went to disbelief, then decided to give it a 1 week trial of giving up the foods that showed an allergy. I went from tears to elation as chronic headaches, asthma, chronic congestion and digestive disturbances cleared up within 2 or 3 days. I no longer doubted the testings. We were free of the symptoms as long as we stayed off those foods. Gradually, we were able to add them back in on a rotating basis but,,,,, I failed to rotate the other foods. I was using garlic, and onions for MSM as a detox as they bind radicals. We were also using apples for the same purpose. We ate them daily but.... after having digestive issues crop back I knew it was time for a new allergy test. We live abroad so I wasnt sure if it was an allergy or bad water. Turns out its these new allergies and we also developed an allergy to the apples we ate every day as well. In answer to your question, " what changed " the allergies, several things had a bearing. We had a nasty case of aluminum poisioning. UGH. Our numbers were over double the max limit. If any of you have alumnium cookware, PLEASE throw it out! After 10 years of use it can leach into the food. The way it affected our allergies was to wreck havoc with our immune system. So we became hyper responsive to ordinary foods. What we needed to do was to strengthen our immune system, detox, strengthen our liver and eat as healthy as possible. We were also under medical treatment from our physician for the aluminum poisioning. All those things combined along with bouncing to facilitate lymph flow, and many other things and our allergies have been decreased by approx 75% within about 1 and a half years. I dont know what had the greatest bearing but I suspect healthy eating and good old fashioned exercise helped the most. Looks like there is one last question. In retrospect, I can see it would have been more organized had I followed your number approach. I hope this response isnt too chaotic (smile).Our family eats alot of fresh fruits, veg, fish and lean meats. We couldnt go vegetarian because of the soy and inablility to get protien but the soy allergy is now gone so maybe we will cut back on some meat. We dont eat processed, refined, or fried foods. Its been a journey to say the least. I took nutrition in college so we always ate healthy but we have had to dulge deeper because of our medical issues. I am glad though, that there are aspects of our health we can take charge of and positively affect through healthy eating patterns and careful diligence to the toxins we are able to avoid. If anyone out there suffers from CHRONIC congestion, chronic headaches, or chronic digestive issues (particularly in the middle of the abdominal area just above the navel- not to the sides) you may want to rule out food allergies. Allergies have increased 50% in the past 10 years worldwide and it is important to identify and eliminate the allergin triggers while strenthening the immune system. Its no fun having chronic discomfort so it is good to try what you can to identify and eliminate these problems. Love in Christ, Cindy herbal remedies , " Donald Eitner " <mysticaleagle@h...> wrote: > Hi Cindy, > > Just curious but 1. What food allergies did your family have? 2. What changed that allowed them to dramatically recover? 3. Why do you believe that you are all now allergic to onions, garlic, cabbage and carrots? 4. Which tests are you using and who is administering them? 5. What does your family eat normally? > > Very curious and slightly perplexed, > > Don Quai > - > luv3kidsdc <luv3kidsdc> > herbal remedies > Monday, January 27, 2003 7:35 AM > [herbal remedies] Looking for suggestions.... > > > Hi! > > I recieved some good news with my families food allergies but... had > some negative news too. Was wondering if anyone has any ideas... > > Test results just showed that my family recovered dramatically from > extensive food allergies. Yay! The bad part is that most of the > foods we have been using to flavor our food are now new allergins. > UGH! Onions, garlic, cabbage, carrots were daily a part of our diet > and now we cant eat them anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2003 Report Share Posted January 27, 2003 Cindy, Your ENTIRE family has all those allergies?? How many of you are there? I've never heard of that before. I hear what you're saying about chronic allergies. About a year and a half ago I started having chronic upper stomach pain and of course testing showed nothing (the medical community only recognizes two types of antibody reactions as far as I know, and these are called IgE and IgG - I think - but there are whole bunch of different kinds of reactions that happen in the body as well. Read Allergies: Disease in Disguise by Carolee Bateson-Koch for further clarification if you're interested. It's too technical for me to explain fully, I apologize). So I went to my naturopath who suggested a strict diet of whole foods, tons of veggies and no sugar, and lo and behold, my symptoms cleared up within a month and I have been pain-free for almost a year now! The problem is, I don't know what caused the reaction and I might never know. The body is SUCH a complicated mechanism. In my humble and very non-expert opinion I'd say that this is more than simply allergies. You indicated the aluminum poisoning problem. How was this determined? Did you do hair analysis? I don't know where you are the world, but I've heard of a program in Britain called Foresight that does some very in depth mineral and heavy metal analyses. I think we need more info from you, though, as to how you were all diagnosed. Love, ILANA xoxo luv3kidsdc wrote: Hi Donald! Whew! It was more like what food allergies we didnt have. It was awful! Our physician did the antibody blood test. It is done with a simple blood draw and is run through Alletess Medical. I thought the test results were in error when we first got them as so many foods turned up as allergins (corn, nearly every grain imaginable except rice- even strange ones I wasnt familiar with, all dairy- cheese, milk, etc, yeast, several citrus chocolate, soy, sugarcane, etc, etc! Several of us also had severe environmental allergies that worsened with allergy shots. We were a bit of a mess to say the least. Anyway, within an hour of seeing those test results I cried, went to disbelief, then decided to give it a 1 week trial of giving up the foods that showed an allergy. I went from tears to elation as chronic headaches, asthma, chronic congestion and digestive disturbances cleared up within 2 or 3 days. I no longer doubted the testings. We were free of the symptoms as long as we stayed off those foods. Gradually, we were able to add them back in on a rotating basis but,,,,, I failed to rotate the other foods. I was using garlic, and onions for MSM as a detox as they bind radicals. We were also using apples for the same purpose. We ate them daily but.... after having digestive issues crop back I knew it was time for a new allergy test. We live abroad so I wasnt sure if it was an allergy or bad water. Turns out its these new allergies and we also developed an allergy to the apples we ate every day as well. In answer to your question, "what changed" the allergies, several things had a bearing. We had a nasty case of aluminum poisioning. UGH. Our numbers were over double the max limit. If any of you have alumnium cookware, PLEASE throw it out! After 10 years of use it can leach into the food. The way it affected our allergies was to wreck havoc with our immune system. So we became hyper responsive to ordinary foods. What we needed to do was to strengthen our immune system, detox, strengthen our liver and eat as healthy as possible. We were also under medical treatment from our physician for the aluminum poisioning. All those things combined along with bouncing to facilitate lymph flow, and many other things and our allergies have been decreased by approx 75% within about 1 and a half years. I dont know what had the greatest bearing but I suspect healthy eating and good old fashioned exercise helped the most. Looks like there is one last question. In retrospect, I can see it would have been more organized had I followed your number approach. I hope this response isnt too chaotic (smile).Our family eats alot of fresh fruits, veg, fish and lean meats. We couldnt go vegetarian because of the soy and inablility to get protien but the soy allergy is now gone so maybe we will cut back on some meat. We dont eat processed, refined, or fried foods. Its been a journey to say the least. I took nutrition in college so we always ate healthy but we have had to dulge deeper because of our medical issues. I am glad though, that there are aspects of our health we can take charge of and positively affect through healthy eating patterns and careful diligence to the toxins we are able to avoid. If anyone out there suffers from CHRONIC congestion, chronic headaches, or chronic digestive issues (particularly in the middle of the abdominal area just above the navel- not to the sides) you may want to rule out food allergies. Allergies have increased 50% in the past 10 years worldwide and it is important to identify and eliminate the allergin triggers while strenthening the immune system. Its no fun having chronic discomfort so it is good to try what you can to identify and eliminate these problems. Love in Christ, Cindy herbal remedies , "Donald Eitner" <mysticaleagle@h...> wrote: > Hi Cindy, > > Just curious but 1. What food allergies did your family have? 2. What changed that allowed them to dramatically recover? 3. Why do you believe that you are all now allergic to onions, garlic, cabbage and carrots? 4. Which tests are you using and who is administering them? 5. What does your family eat normally? > > Very curious and slightly perplexed, > > Don Quai > - > luv3kidsdc <luv3kidsdc> > herbal remedies > Monday, January 27, 2003 7:35 AM > [herbal remedies] Looking for suggestions.... > > > Hi! > > I recieved some good news with my families food allergies but... had > some negative news too. Was wondering if anyone has any ideas... > > Test results just showed that my family recovered dramatically from > extensive food allergies. Yay! The bad part is that most of the > foods we have been using to flavor our food are now new allergins. > UGH! Onions, garlic, cabbage, carrots were daily a part of our diet > and now we cant eat them anymore. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. 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Guest guest Posted January 28, 2003 Report Share Posted January 28, 2003 You know, it sounds like if you get rid of the aluminum/metal in your body you probably won't be allergic to all those foods... have you thought about a blood detox? It's in the files... Suzi "luv3kidsdc <luv3kidsdc" <luv3kidsdc wrote: Hi Ilana!Thank you for your post. Yes, we all (5 of us) have those allergies. Each one of us have nearly the exact same ones and at the same degree of reaction. I can relate to your story about your reaction. Thank you for sharing that. I will look for that book when we get back to the states. We return for good at the end of March. Yippie!Yes, we had an indepth hair analyisis done. We have had four of them and had our last one done when we were in the states for the holidays. We are still awaiting those results (waiting for international mail from my Dr.s office- groan- its bad enough trying to get a phone call living in the states). Our hair analysis is run through Great Smokies Diagnosic Center and they do an excellent job with it. They even cross test for variables like hair preparations that can give false positives. We all had heavy metal poisoning and since then we have all had these allergy issues. I am convinced the two are linked. Love in Christ,Cindyherbal remedies , Ilana Grostern wrote:> Cindy,> Your ENTIRE family has all those allergies?? How many of you are there? > I've never heard of that before.> > I hear what you're saying about chronic allergies. About a year and a > half ago I started having chronic upper stomach pain and of course > testing showed nothing (the medical community only recognizes two types > of antibody reactions as far as I know, and these are called IgE and IgG > - I think - but there are whole bunch of different kinds of reactions > that happen in the body as well. Read Allergies: Disease in Disguise by > Carolee Bateson-Koch for further clarification if you're interested. > It's too technical for me to explain fully, I apologize). So I went to > my naturopath who suggested a strict diet of whole foods, tons of > veggies and no sugar, and lo and behold, my symptoms cleared up within a > month and I have been pain-free for almost a year now! The problem is, I > don't know what caused the reaction and I might never know. The body is > SUCH a complicated mechanism.> > In my humble and very non-expert opinion I'd say that this is more than > simply allergies. You indicated the aluminum poisoning problem. How was > this determined? Did you do hair analysis? I don't know where you are > the world, but I've heard of a program in Britain called Foresight that > does some very in depth mineral and heavy metal analyses. I think we > need more info from you, though, as to how you were all diagnosed.> > Love,> ILANA xoxo> > luv3kidsdc wrote:> > > Hi Donald!> >> > Whew! It was more like what food allergies we didnt have. It was> > awful! Our physician did the antibody blood test. It is done with a> > simple blood draw and is run through Alletess Medical. I thought the> > test results were in error when we first got them as so many foods> > turned up as allergins (corn, nearly every grain imaginable except> > rice- even strange ones I wasnt familiar with, all dairy- cheese,> > milk, etc, yeast, several citrus chocolate, soy, sugarcane, etc,> > etc! Several of us also had severe environmental allergies that> > worsened with allergy shots. We were a bit of a mess to say the> > least. Anyway, within an hour of seeing those test results I cried,> > went to disbelief, then decided to give it a 1 week trial of giving> > up the foods that showed an allergy.> >> > I went from tears to elation as chronic headaches, asthma, chronic> > congestion and digestive disturbances cleared up within 2 or 3 days.> > I no longer doubted the testings. We were free of the symptoms as> > long as we stayed off those foods. Gradually, we were able to add> > them back in on a rotating basis but,,,,, I failed to rotate the> > other foods. I was using garlic, and onions for MSM as a detox as> > they bind radicals. We were also using apples for the same purpose.> > We ate them daily but.... after having digestive issues crop back I> > knew it was time for a new allergy test. We live abroad so I wasnt> > sure if it was an allergy or bad water. Turns out its these new> > allergies and we also developed an allergy to the apples we ate> > every day as well.> >> > In answer to your question, "what changed" the allergies, several> > things had a bearing. We had a nasty case of aluminum poisioning.> > UGH. Our numbers were over double the max limit. If any of you have> > alumnium cookware, PLEASE throw it out! After 10 years of use it can> > leach into the food. The way it affected our allergies was to wreck> > havoc with our immune system. So we became hyper responsive to> > ordinary foods. What we needed to do was to strengthen our immune> > system, detox, strengthen our liver and eat as healthy as possible.> > We were also under medical treatment from our physician for the> > aluminum poisioning. All those things combined along with bouncing> > to facilitate lymph flow, and many other things and our allergies> > have been decreased by approx 75% within about 1 and a half years. I> > dont know what had the greatest bearing but I suspect healthy eating> > and good old fashioned exercise helped the most.> >> > Looks like there is one last question. In retrospect, I can see it> > would have been more organized had I followed your number approach.> > I hope this response isnt too chaotic (smile).Our family eats alot> > of fresh fruits, veg, fish and lean meats. We couldnt go vegetarian> > because of the soy and inablility to get protien but the soy allergy> > is now gone so maybe we will cut back on some meat. We dont eat> > processed, refined, or fried foods.> >> > Its been a journey to say the least. I took nutrition in college so> > we always ate healthy but we have had to dulge deeper because of our> > medical issues. I am glad though, that there are aspects of our> > health we can take charge of and positively affect through healthy> > eating patterns and careful diligence to the toxins we are able to> > avoid.> >> > If anyone out there suffers from CHRONIC congestion, chronic> > headaches, or chronic digestive issues (particularly in the middle> > of the abdominal area just above the navel- not to the sides) you> > may want to rule out food allergies. Allergies have increased 50% in> > the past 10 years worldwide and it is important to identify and> > eliminate the allergin triggers while strenthening the immune> > system. Its no fun having chronic discomfort so it is good to try> > what you can to identify and eliminate these problems.> >> > Love in Christ,> > Cindy> >> >> > herbal remedies , "Donald Eitner"> > wrote:> > > Hi Cindy,> > >> > > Just curious but 1. What food allergies did your family have? 2.> > What changed that allowed them to dramatically recover? 3. Why do> > you believe that you are all now allergic to onions, garlic, cabbage> > and carrots? 4. Which tests are you using and who is administering> > them? 5. What does your family eat normally?> > >> > > Very curious and slightly perplexed,> > >> > > Don Quai> > > -> > > luv3kidsdc > > > herbal remedies > > > Monday, January 27, 2003 7:35 AM> > > [herbal remedies] Looking for suggestions....> > >> > >> > > Hi!> > >> > > I recieved some good news with my families food allergies but...> > had> > > some negative news too. Was wondering if anyone has any ideas...> > >> > > Test results just showed that my family recovered dramatically> > from> > > extensive food allergies. Yay! The bad part is that most of the> > > foods we have been using to flavor our food are now new> > allergins.> > > UGH! Onions, garlic, cabbage, carrots were daily a part of our> > diet> > > and now we cant eat them anymore.> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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