Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 It has been so long ago I don't remember... I just remember it taking away the pain and redness. Suzi Stevie <Babylon wrote: Thanks, Suzi! Does it also help with peeling?Stevie> Tea will take the redness out of a sunburn or burn.> SuziFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2003 Report Share Posted November 5, 2003 Details of how to are contained at the botton of every email, including this one. ===== Kind regards Attilio Chinese Traditional Medicine Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard http://antispam./whatsnewfree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 I'm sorry to sorry to hear you go. The name 'acu punk gina' conjures up sorts of post- apocalyptic neo-tokyo rebellion. Very fearless and future sounding. peace Acupunkgina wrote:please remove me from the list. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Hello Mike, I understand that you do not want to received any postings that my look like spam. The articles of the " online magazine " that you wrote about, are TCM related. I do not understand your post, it is something else that you want to share with us? Mike, do not leave. I like and appreciate your contribution to the group, but please be fair and respectful if you decide to make comments or write about other members postings. Regards, Adolfo Chinese Traditional Medicine naturaldoc1 Sat, 5 Sep 2009 02:06:39 +0000 RE: It might be nice to know what the policy is towards an online magazine posting its many articles to this group. This is starting to look like spam. Maybe the group's moderator can weigh in here. I am not interested in getting all of this stuff either. Thanks Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine sjeevanjee Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:46:57 -0400 Please take me off this list. With thanks. attiliodalberto <attiliodalberto Chinese Medicine Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:29 Latest Issue of CMT Now Out Hi all, Towards an Integrated Approach - Part One http://tinyurl.com/n9jyf8 Thought, History and Critique: An Appreciation of Chinese Medical Canon Relative to Pulse Diagnosis http://tinyurl.com/m5t4vg The Treatment of High FSH Levels in Fertility Patients using Traditional Chinese Medicine http://tinyurl.com/n2nu4p The Management of Sprain, Strains and Trauma - Part One http://tinyurl.com/mev7fz Analysis and Evaluation on Acupuncture Treatment of Cervical Pains in the UK - A Study of 74 Cases http://tinyurl.com/nhah9v Book Review: The Art of Cupping. Hedwig Manz http://tinyurl.com/lwfpnn Regards, Attilio www.chinesemedicinetimes.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Mike, leave. Let the people who post interesting articles and SETS of articles stay. That's cool. - " Al LO " <acphc <Chinese Traditional Medicine > Friday, September 04, 2009 11:56 PM RE: > > > Hello Mike, > > > > I understand that you do not want to received any postings that my look > like spam. The articles of the " online magazine " that you wrote about, are > TCM related. I do not understand your post, it is something else that you > want to share with us? > > > > Mike, do not leave. I like and appreciate your contribution to the group, > but please be fair and respectful if you decide to make comments or write > about other members postings. > > > > Regards, Adolfo > > > > > Chinese Traditional Medicine > naturaldoc1 > Sat, 5 Sep 2009 02:06:39 +0000 > RE: It might be nice to know what the policy is towards an online magazine > posting its many articles to this group. This is starting to look like > spam. Maybe the group's moderator can weigh in here. I am not interested > in getting all of this stuff either. Thanks > > Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc > Chinese Medicine > sjeevanjee > Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:46:57 -0400 > > > Please take me off this list. With thanks. > > > > attiliodalberto <attiliodalberto > > Chinese Medicine > > Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:29 > > Latest Issue of CMT Now Out > > Hi all, > > Towards an Integrated Approach - Part One > > http://tinyurl.com/n9jyf8 > > Thought, History and Critique: An Appreciation of Chinese Medical Canon > Relative to Pulse Diagnosis > > http://tinyurl.com/m5t4vg > > The Treatment of High FSH Levels in Fertility Patients using Traditional > > > http://tinyurl.com/n2nu4p > > The Management of Sprain, Strains and Trauma - Part One > > http://tinyurl.com/mev7fz > > Analysis and Evaluation on Acupuncture Treatment of Cervical Pains in the > UK - A Study of 74 Cases > > http://tinyurl.com/nhah9v > > Book Review: The Art of Cupping. Hedwig Manz > > http://tinyurl.com/lwfpnn > > Regards, > > Attilio > > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 I don't know what the world is coming to when you give people high quality articles for free and they moan and complain. If you don't like the email, then delete it. The rules of the forum as laid initially by myself many years ago where to promote TCM without any commercial posts. As these articles are free to all, they are non-commercial. Other announcements such as CPDs, seminars, book releases, etc are allowed one post each. Regards, Attilio Chinese Medicine , " Mercurius Trismegistus " <magisterium_magnum wrote: > > Mike, leave. Let the people who post interesting articles and SETS of > articles stay. That's cool. - > " Al LO " <acphc > <Chinese Traditional Medicine > > Friday, September 04, 2009 11:56 PM > RE: > > > > > > > > Hello Mike, > > > > > > > > I understand that you do not want to received any postings that my look > > like spam. The articles of the " online magazine " that you wrote about, are > > TCM related. I do not understand your post, it is something else that you > > want to share with us? > > > > > > > > Mike, do not leave. I like and appreciate your contribution to the group, > > but please be fair and respectful if you decide to make comments or write > > about other members postings. > > > > > > > > Regards, Adolfo > > > > > > > > > > Chinese Traditional Medicine > > naturaldoc1 > > Sat, 5 Sep 2009 02:06:39 +0000 > > RE: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It might be nice to know what the policy is towards an online magazine > > posting its many articles to this group. This is starting to look like > > spam. Maybe the group's moderator can weigh in here. I am not interested > > in getting all of this stuff either. Thanks > > > > Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc > > Chinese Medicine > > sjeevanjee > > Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:46:57 -0400 > > > > > > Please take me off this list. With thanks. > > > > > > > > attiliodalberto <attiliodalberto > > > > Chinese Medicine > > > > Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:29 > > > > Latest Issue of CMT Now Out > > > > Hi all, > > > > Towards an Integrated Approach - Part One > > > > http://tinyurl.com/n9jyf8 > > > > Thought, History and Critique: An Appreciation of Chinese Medical Canon > > Relative to Pulse Diagnosis > > > > http://tinyurl.com/m5t4vg > > > > The Treatment of High FSH Levels in Fertility Patients using Traditional > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/n2nu4p > > > > The Management of Sprain, Strains and Trauma - Part One > > > > http://tinyurl.com/mev7fz > > > > Analysis and Evaluation on Acupuncture Treatment of Cervical Pains in the > > UK - A Study of 74 Cases > > > > http://tinyurl.com/nhah9v > > > > Book Review: The Art of Cupping. Hedwig Manz > > > > http://tinyurl.com/lwfpnn > > > > Regards, > > > > Attilio > > > > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 I, too, have always enjoyed Attilio's CMT posts. They always have good netiquette - short, concise, relevant, and with tinyurl links so as not to clog our inboxes. He provides a wonderful and much appreciated service. If we are tolerant enough to allow some of the long repetitive political debates, then surely we have room for a few small links to interesting and informative articles which supports and uplifts our profession! On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Mercurius Trismegistus < magisterium_magnum wrote: > > > Mike, leave. Let the people who post interesting articles and SETS of > articles stay. That's cool. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Attilio - please keep those great free articles coming. Anne......you don't have to be on any international group or hit a wrong button.... to receive the rip-off e-mails..... usually from Nigeria...... but these days the crooks are getting more and more diversified in how they come at you. Richard In a message dated 09/05/09 8:24:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, anne.crowley writes: I am really fine with all of this. It is all TCM or healing related and I am interested. I don't think anyone should leave. I am now getting an email a week of someone overseas that wants my services, money; or I interited something. I must have hit a wrong button somewhere. Now that is annoying. Any healing information, articles from this group are welcomed. I honestly can't read everything, but I believe in freedom of the post. Take Care, Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 I am really fine with all of this. It is all TCM or healing related and I am interested. I don't think anyone should leave. I am now getting an email a week of someone overseas that wants my services, money; or I interited something. I must have hit a wrong button somewhere. Now that is annoying. Any healing information, articles from this group are welcomed. I honestly can't read everything, but I believe in freedom of the post. Take Care, Anne Anne C. Crowley, L.Ac., Dipl.Ac. www.LaPlataAcupuncture.com - " attiliodalberto " <attiliodalberto " Traditional " <Chinese Medicine > Saturday, September 5, 2009 6:23:33 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Re:   I don't know what the world is coming to when you give people high quality articles for free and they moan and complain. If you don't like the email, then delete it. The rules of the forum as laid initially by myself many years ago where to promote TCM without any commercial posts. As these articles are free to all, they are non-commercial. Other announcements such as CPDs, seminars, book releases, etc are allowed one post each. Regards, Attilio Chinese Medicine , " Mercurius Trismegistus " <magisterium_magnum wrote: > > Mike, leave. Let the people who post interesting articles and SETS of > articles stay. That's cool. - > " Al LO " <acphc > < Chinese Traditional Medicine > > Friday, September 04, 2009 11:56 PM > RE: > > > > > > > > Hello Mike, > > > > > > > > I understand that you do not want to received any postings that my look > > like spam. The articles of the " online magazine " that you wrote about, are > > TCM related. I do not understand your post, it is something else that you > > want to share with us? > > > > > > > > Mike, do not leave. I like and appreciate your contribution to the group, > > but please be fair and respectful if you decide to make comments or write > > about other members postings. > > > > > > > > Regards, Adolfo > > > > > > > > > > Chinese Traditional Medicine > > naturaldoc1 > > Sat, 5 Sep 2009 02:06:39 +0000 > > RE: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It might be nice to know what the policy is towards an online magazine > > posting its many articles to this group. This is starting to look like > > spam. Maybe the group's moderator can weigh in here. I am not interested > > in getting all of this stuff either. Thanks > > > > Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc > > Chinese Medicine > > sjeevanjee > > Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:46:57 -0400 > > > > > > Please take me off this list. With thanks. > > > > > > > > attiliodalberto <attiliodalberto > > > > Chinese Medicine > > > > Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:29 > > > > Latest Issue of CMT Now Out > > > > Hi all, > > > > Towards an Integrated Approach - Part One > > > > http://tinyurl.com/n9jyf8 > > > > Thought, History and Critique: An Appreciation of Chinese Medical Canon > > Relative to Pulse Diagnosis > > > > http://tinyurl.com/m5t4vg > > > > The Treatment of High FSH Levels in Fertility Patients using Traditional > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/n2nu4p > > > > The Management of Sprain, Strains and Trauma - Part One > > > > http://tinyurl.com/mev7fz > > > > Analysis and Evaluation on Acupuncture Treatment of Cervical Pains in the > > UK - A Study of 74 Cases > > > > http://tinyurl.com/nhah9v > > > > Book Review: The Art of Cupping. Hedwig Manz > > > > http://tinyurl.com/lwfpnn > > > > Regards, > > > > Attilio > > > > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 So, then who decides which articles and journals? This can easily become overwhelming, even with the best intentioned TCM or healthcare journals all choosing to participate. I do not mind an occasion article post but would prefer not to have the entire online journal linked with each separately. Maybe Attilio could simply limit it to one link for the journal or an article. As we are all getting more and more uninvited information it becomes spam, let's reduce the tendency to post it all, by just a little. Is this not a reasonable request? Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine chineseherbs Sat, 5 Sep 2009 04:10:26 -0700 Re: I, too, have always enjoyed Attilio's CMT posts. They always have good netiquette - short, concise, relevant, and with tinyurl links so as not to clog our inboxes. He provides a wonderful and much appreciated service. If we are tolerant enough to allow some of the long repetitive political debates, then surely we have room for a few small links to interesting and informative articles which supports and uplifts our profession! On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Mercurius Trismegistus < magisterium_magnum wrote: > > > Mike, leave. Let the people who post interesting articles and SETS of > articles stay. That's cool. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Attilio, The issue here is not with the articles being free but that your online journal is also selling other materials, which a person cannot freely opt out of the ads. In some ways, it appears to be a lure to buy. If you are the only one allowed to have links to advertising, then it is a monopoly. Just another viewpoint. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine attiliodalberto Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:23:33 +0000 Re: I don't know what the world is coming to when you give people high quality articles for free and they moan and complain. If you don't like the email, then delete it. The rules of the forum as laid initially by myself many years ago where to promote TCM without any commercial posts. As these articles are free to all, they are non-commercial. Other announcements such as CPDs, seminars, book releases, etc are allowed one post each. Regards, Attilio Chinese Medicine , " Mercurius Trismegistus " <magisterium_magnum wrote: > > Mike, leave. Let the people who post interesting articles and SETS of > articles stay. That's cool. > > > > > > > - > " Al LO " <acphc > <Chinese Traditional Medicine > > Friday, September 04, 2009 11:56 PM > RE: > > > > > > > > Hello Mike, > > > > > > > > I understand that you do not want to received any postings that my look > > like spam. The articles of the " online magazine " that you wrote about, are > > TCM related. I do not understand your post, it is something else that you > > want to share with us? > > > > > > > > Mike, do not leave. I like and appreciate your contribution to the group, > > but please be fair and respectful if you decide to make comments or write > > about other members postings. > > > > > > > > Regards, Adolfo > > > > > > > > > > Chinese Traditional Medicine > > naturaldoc1 > > Sat, 5 Sep 2009 02:06:39 +0000 > > RE: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It might be nice to know what the policy is towards an online magazine > > posting its many articles to this group. This is starting to look like > > spam. Maybe the group's moderator can weigh in here. I am not interested > > in getting all of this stuff either. Thanks > > > > Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc > > Chinese Medicine > > sjeevanjee > > Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:46:57 -0400 > > > > > > Please take me off this list. With thanks. > > > > > > > > attiliodalberto <attiliodalberto > > > > Chinese Medicine > > > > Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:29 > > > > Latest Issue of CMT Now Out > > > > Hi all, > > > > Towards an Integrated Approach - Part One > > > > http://tinyurl.com/n9jyf8 > > > > Thought, History and Critique: An Appreciation of Chinese Medical Canon > > Relative to Pulse Diagnosis > > > > http://tinyurl.com/m5t4vg > > > > The Treatment of High FSH Levels in Fertility Patients using Traditional > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/n2nu4p > > > > The Management of Sprain, Strains and Trauma - Part One > > > > http://tinyurl.com/mev7fz > > > > Analysis and Evaluation on Acupuncture Treatment of Cervical Pains in the > > UK - A Study of 74 Cases > > > > http://tinyurl.com/nhah9v > > > > Book Review: The Art of Cupping. Hedwig Manz > > > > http://tinyurl.com/lwfpnn > > > > Regards, > > > > Attilio > > > > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Merc, I did not know you are now the moderator of the group. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine magisterium_magnum Sat, 5 Sep 2009 02:07:29 -0700 Re: Mike, leave. Let the people who post interesting articles and SETS of articles stay. That's cool. - " Al LO " <acphc <Chinese Traditional Medicine > Friday, September 04, 2009 11:56 PM RE: > > > Hello Mike, > > > > I understand that you do not want to received any postings that my look > like spam. The articles of the " online magazine " that you wrote about, are > TCM related. I do not understand your post, it is something else that you > want to share with us? > > > > Mike, do not leave. I like and appreciate your contribution to the group, > but please be fair and respectful if you decide to make comments or write > about other members postings. > > > > Regards, Adolfo > > > > > Chinese Traditional Medicine > naturaldoc1 > Sat, 5 Sep 2009 02:06:39 +0000 > RE: > > > > > > > It might be nice to know what the policy is towards an online magazine > posting its many articles to this group. This is starting to look like > spam. Maybe the group's moderator can weigh in here. I am not interested > in getting all of this stuff either. Thanks > > Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc > Chinese Medicine > sjeevanjee > Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:46:57 -0400 > > > Please take me off this list. With thanks. > > > > attiliodalberto <attiliodalberto > > Chinese Medicine > > Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:29 > > Latest Issue of CMT Now Out > > Hi all, > > Towards an Integrated Approach - Part One > > http://tinyurl.com/n9jyf8 > > Thought, History and Critique: An Appreciation of Chinese Medical Canon > Relative to Pulse Diagnosis > > http://tinyurl.com/m5t4vg > > The Treatment of High FSH Levels in Fertility Patients using Traditional > > > http://tinyurl.com/n2nu4p > > The Management of Sprain, Strains and Trauma - Part One > > http://tinyurl.com/mev7fz > > Analysis and Evaluation on Acupuncture Treatment of Cervical Pains in the > UK - A Study of 74 Cases > > http://tinyurl.com/nhah9v > > Book Review: The Art of Cupping. Hedwig Manz > > http://tinyurl.com/lwfpnn > > Regards, > > Attilio > > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 I could not agree more keep the great articles coming... ignore the politically correct mentality .... if you don't like this group as it has been for years you can leave... in fact please leave so we can get back on-purpose. David Sontag acudoc11 wrote: > > > Attilio - please keep those great free articles coming. > > Anne......you don't have to be on any international group or hit a wrong > button.... to receive the rip-off e-mails..... usually from Nigeria...... > but these days the crooks are getting more and more diversified in how > they > come at you. > > Richard > > > In a message dated 09/05/09 8:24:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > anne.crowley <anne.crowley%40comcast.net> writes: > > I am really fine with all of this. It is all TCM or healing related and I > am interested. > > I don't think anyone should leave. I am now getting an email a week of > someone overseas that wants my services, money; or I interited > something. I > must have hit a wrong button somewhere. Now that is annoying. Any healing > information, articles from this group are welcomed. I honestly can't read > everything, but I believe in freedom of the post. > > Take Care, > > Anne > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Attilio, Thanks for organizing both this and chinesemedicinetimes. Your contribution is amazing as are the article writers. Actually, I forgot about chinesemedicinetimes, since I'm so busy. Glad you reminded me. It must have taken a lot of time and energy to write the articles, build the website and post them. I think all of this deserves at least one message on the site that you initiated. I get hundreds of emails everyday, including ones from this . The free articles on chinesemedicinetimes can actually help my practice directly. Isn't that the point? Mind as well censor all of the signature post-scripts with website links as well. K On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 4:41 PM, David Sontag <acudoc wrote: > > > I could not agree more keep the great articles coming... ignore the > politically correct mentality .... if you don't like this group as it > has been for years you can leave... in fact please leave so we can get > back on-purpose. > > David Sontag > > > acudoc11 <acudoc11%40aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > Attilio - please keep those great free articles coming. > > > > Anne......you don't have to be on any international group or hit a wrong > > button.... to receive the rip-off e-mails..... usually from Nigeria...... > > but these days the crooks are getting more and more diversified in how > > they > > come at you. > > > > Richard > > > > > > In a message dated 09/05/09 8:24:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > anne.crowley <anne.crowley%40comcast.net> < > anne.crowley%40comcast.net <anne.crowley%2540comcast.net>> writes: > > > > I am really fine with all of this. It is all TCM or healing related and I > > am interested. > > > > I don't think anyone should leave. I am now getting an email a week of > > someone overseas that wants my services, money; or I interited > > something. I > > must have hit a wrong button somewhere. Now that is annoying. Any healing > > information, articles from this group are welcomed. I honestly can't read > > everything, but I believe in freedom of the post. > > > > Take Care, > > > > Anne > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Well here is another view point for you Mike..... take your complaints elsewhere... or why don't you start your own TCM group. In plain english you are a pain in the ass... drop it, as I for one do not want you pc crap here. I am sure I am not alone. Better yet I wish Attilio would just drop your posts from the list Bug off ... just another point of view. David mike Bowser wrote: > > > > Attilio, > The issue here is not with the articles being free but that your > online journal is also selling other materials, which a person cannot > freely opt out of the ads. In some ways, it appears to be a lure to > buy. If you are the only one allowed to have links to advertising, > then it is a monopoly. Just another viewpoint. > > Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc > > Chinese Medicine > <Chinese Medicine%40> > attiliodalberto <attiliodalberto%40.co.uk> > Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:23:33 +0000 > Re: > > I don't know what the world is coming to when you give people high > quality articles for free and they moan and complain. If you don't > like the email, then delete it. > > The rules of the forum as laid initially by myself many years ago > where to promote TCM without any commercial posts. As these articles > are free to all, they are non-commercial. > > Other announcements such as CPDs, seminars, book releases, etc are > allowed one post each. > > Regards, > > Attilio > > Chinese Medicine > <Chinese Medicine%40>, " Mercurius > Trismegistus " <magisterium_magnum wrote: > > > > > > Mike, leave. Let the people who post interesting articles and SETS of > > > articles stay. That's cool. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > " Al LO " <acphc > > > <Chinese Traditional Medicine > <Chinese Traditional Medicine%40>> > > > Friday, September 04, 2009 11:56 PM > > > RE: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Mike, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand that you do not want to received any postings that my > look > > > > like spam. The articles of the " online magazine " that you wrote > about, are > > > > TCM related. I do not understand your post, it is something else > that you > > > > want to share with us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike, do not leave. I like and appreciate your contribution to the > group, > > > > but please be fair and respectful if you decide to make comments > or write > > > > about other members postings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, Adolfo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chinese Traditional Medicine > <Chinese Traditional Medicine%40> > > > > naturaldoc1 > > > > Sat, 5 Sep 2009 02:06:39 +0000 > > > > RE: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It might be nice to know what the policy is towards an online > magazine > > > > posting its many articles to this group. This is starting to look > like > > > > spam. Maybe the group's moderator can weigh in here. I am not > interested > > > > in getting all of this stuff either. Thanks > > > > > > > > Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc > > > > Chinese Medicine > <Chinese Medicine%40> > > > > sjeevanjee > > > > Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:46:57 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > > > Please take me off this list. With thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attiliodalberto <attiliodalberto > > > > > > > > Chinese Medicine > <Chinese Medicine%40> > > > > > > > > Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:29 > > > > > > > > Latest Issue of CMT Now Out > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > Towards an Integrated Approach - Part One > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/n9jyf8 <http://tinyurl.com/n9jyf8> > > > > > > > > Thought, History and Critique: An Appreciation of Chinese Medical > Canon > > > > Relative to Pulse Diagnosis > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/m5t4vg <http://tinyurl.com/m5t4vg> > > > > > > > > The Treatment of High FSH Levels in Fertility Patients using > Traditional > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/n2nu4p <http://tinyurl.com/n2nu4p> > > > > > > > > The Management of Sprain, Strains and Trauma - Part One > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/mev7fz <http://tinyurl.com/mev7fz> > > > > > > > > Analysis and Evaluation on Acupuncture Treatment of Cervical Pains > in the > > > > UK - A Study of 74 Cases > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/nhah9v <http://tinyurl.com/nhah9v> > > > > > > > > Book Review: The Art of Cupping. Hedwig Manz > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/lwfpnn <http://tinyurl.com/lwfpnn> > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Attilio > > > > > > > > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 David, Since when did respectful discourse become outlawed? I posted a respectful question to the group's moderator, asking about the group's policies toward this conduct. If you want more spam and fail to understand what I am asking, then simply remain ignorant. There is nothing wrong with my asking for clarity and it is not your place to decide. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine acudoc Sat, 5 Sep 2009 22:53:59 -0400 Re: Well here is another view point for you Mike..... take your complaints elsewhere... or why don't you start your own TCM group. In plain english you are a pain in the ass... drop it, as I for one do not want you pc crap here. I am sure I am not alone. Better yet I wish Attilio would just drop your posts from the list Bug off ... just another point of view. David mike Bowser wrote: > > > > Attilio, > The issue here is not with the articles being free but that your > online journal is also selling other materials, which a person cannot > freely opt out of the ads. In some ways, it appears to be a lure to > buy. If you are the only one allowed to have links to advertising, > then it is a monopoly. Just another viewpoint. > > Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc > > Chinese Medicine > <Chinese Medicine%40> > attiliodalberto <attiliodalberto%40.co.uk> > Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:23:33 +0000 > Re: > > I don't know what the world is coming to when you give people high > quality articles for free and they moan and complain. If you don't > like the email, then delete it. > > The rules of the forum as laid initially by myself many years ago > where to promote TCM without any commercial posts. As these articles > are free to all, they are non-commercial. > > Other announcements such as CPDs, seminars, book releases, etc are > allowed one post each. > > Regards, > > Attilio > > Chinese Medicine > <Chinese Medicine%40>, " Mercurius > Trismegistus " <magisterium_magnum wrote: > > > > > > Mike, leave. Let the people who post interesting articles and SETS of > > > articles stay. That's cool. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > " Al LO " <acphc > > > <Chinese Traditional Medicine > <Chinese Traditional Medicine%40>> > > > Friday, September 04, 2009 11:56 PM > > > RE: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Mike, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand that you do not want to received any postings that my > look > > > > like spam. The articles of the " online magazine " that you wrote > about, are > > > > TCM related. I do not understand your post, it is something else > that you > > > > want to share with us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike, do not leave. I like and appreciate your contribution to the > group, > > > > but please be fair and respectful if you decide to make comments > or write > > > > about other members postings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, Adolfo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chinese Traditional Medicine > <Chinese Traditional Medicine%40> > > > > naturaldoc1 > > > > Sat, 5 Sep 2009 02:06:39 +0000 > > > > RE: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It might be nice to know what the policy is towards an online > magazine > > > > posting its many articles to this group. This is starting to look > like > > > > spam. Maybe the group's moderator can weigh in here. I am not > interested > > > > in getting all of this stuff either. Thanks > > > > > > > > Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc > > > > Chinese Medicine > <Chinese Medicine%40> > > > > sjeevanjee > > > > Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:46:57 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > > > Please take me off this list. With thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attiliodalberto <attiliodalberto > > > > > > > > Chinese Medicine > <Chinese Medicine%40> > > > > > > > > Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:29 > > > > > > > > Latest Issue of CMT Now Out > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > Towards an Integrated Approach - Part One > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/n9jyf8 <http://tinyurl.com/n9jyf8> > > > > > > > > Thought, History and Critique: An Appreciation of Chinese Medical > Canon > > > > Relative to Pulse Diagnosis > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/m5t4vg <http://tinyurl.com/m5t4vg> > > > > > > > > The Treatment of High FSH Levels in Fertility Patients using > Traditional > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/n2nu4p <http://tinyurl.com/n2nu4p> > > > > > > > > The Management of Sprain, Strains and Trauma - Part One > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/mev7fz <http://tinyurl.com/mev7fz> > > > > > > > > Analysis and Evaluation on Acupuncture Treatment of Cervical Pains > in the > > > > UK - A Study of 74 Cases > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/nhah9v <http://tinyurl.com/nhah9v> > > > > > > > > Book Review: The Art of Cupping. Hedwig Manz > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/lwfpnn <http://tinyurl.com/lwfpnn> > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Attilio > > > > > > > > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 It never ceases to amaze me when one hides behind " respectful discourse " as a ruse to disrupt the status quo. I have said it as it is.. I an far from ignorant and won't be played the fool. I have seen " respectful discourse " and requests for " clarity " disrupt and ruin many a group. So Mikey drop it... it is clear ... you asked you have been answered... the group will not change for you and your further disruptions are not welcome. As to if it is my place to decide... you are right, nor is it yours, but I am no covert.... Hope you got it. David Sontag, L.Ac, AP, DOM, Lic. Nutritionist...... and I will not bore you or the group with the rest of my credentials. mike Bowser wrote: > > > > David, > Since when did respectful discourse become outlawed? I posted a > respectful question to the group's moderator, asking about the group's > policies toward this conduct. If you want more spam and fail to > understand what I am asking, then simply remain ignorant. There is > nothing wrong with my asking for clarity and it is not your place to > decide. > > Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc > Chinese Medicine > <Chinese Medicine%40> > acudoc <acudoc%40bellsouth.net> > Sat, 5 Sep 2009 22:53:59 -0400 > Re: > > Well here is another view point for you Mike..... take your complaints > > elsewhere... or why don't you start your own TCM group. > > In plain english you are a pain in the ass... drop it, as I for one do > > not want you pc crap here. I am sure I am not alone. Better yet I wish > > Attilio would just drop your posts from the list > > Bug off ... just another point of view. > > David > > mike Bowser wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Attilio, > > > The issue here is not with the articles being free but that your > > > online journal is also selling other materials, which a person cannot > > > freely opt out of the ads. In some ways, it appears to be a lure to > > > buy. If you are the only one allowed to have links to advertising, > > > then it is a monopoly. Just another viewpoint. > > > > > > Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc > > > > > > Chinese Medicine > <Chinese Medicine%40> > > > <Chinese Medicine%40> > > > attiliodalberto > <attiliodalberto%40.co.uk> > <attiliodalberto%40.co.uk> > > > Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:23:33 +0000 > > > Re: > > > > > > I don't know what the world is coming to when you give people high > > > quality articles for free and they moan and complain. If you don't > > > like the email, then delete it. > > > > > > The rules of the forum as laid initially by myself many years ago > > > where to promote TCM without any commercial posts. As these articles > > > are free to all, they are non-commercial. > > > > > > Other announcements such as CPDs, seminars, book releases, etc are > > > allowed one post each. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Attilio > > > > > > Chinese Medicine > <Chinese Medicine%40> > > > <Chinese Medicine%40>, " Mercurius > > > Trismegistus " <magisterium_magnum wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike, leave. Let the people who post interesting articles and SETS of > > > > > > > articles stay. That's cool. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > " Al LO " <acphc > > > > > > > <Chinese Traditional Medicine > <Chinese Traditional Medicine%40> > > > <Chinese Traditional Medicine%40>> > > > > > > > Friday, September 04, 2009 11:56 PM > > > > > > > RE: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Mike, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand that you do not want to received any postings that my > > > look > > > > > > > > like spam. The articles of the " online magazine " that you wrote > > > about, are > > > > > > > > TCM related. I do not understand your post, it is something else > > > that you > > > > > > > > want to share with us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike, do not leave. I like and appreciate your contribution to the > > > group, > > > > > > > > but please be fair and respectful if you decide to make comments > > > or write > > > > > > > > about other members postings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, Adolfo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chinese Traditional Medicine > <Chinese Traditional Medicine%40> > > > <Chinese Traditional Medicine%40> > > > > > > > > naturaldoc1 > > > > > > > > Sat, 5 Sep 2009 02:06:39 +0000 > > > > > > > > RE: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It might be nice to know what the policy is towards an online > > > magazine > > > > > > > > posting its many articles to this group. This is starting to look > > > like > > > > > > > > spam. Maybe the group's moderator can weigh in here. I am not > > > interested > > > > > > > > in getting all of this stuff either. Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc > > > > > > > > Chinese Medicine > <Chinese Medicine%40> > > > <Chinese Medicine%40> > > > > > > > > sjeevanjee > > > > > > > > Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:46:57 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please take me off this list. With thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attiliodalberto <attiliodalberto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chinese Medicine > <Chinese Medicine%40> > > > <Chinese Medicine%40> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:29 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Latest Issue of CMT Now Out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Towards an Integrated Approach - Part One > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/n9jyf8 <http://tinyurl.com/n9jyf8> > <http://tinyurl.com/n9jyf8 <http://tinyurl.com/n9jyf8>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thought, History and Critique: An Appreciation of Chinese Medical > > > Canon > > > > > > > > Relative to Pulse Diagnosis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/m5t4vg <http://tinyurl.com/m5t4vg> > <http://tinyurl.com/m5t4vg <http://tinyurl.com/m5t4vg>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Treatment of High FSH Levels in Fertility Patients using > > > Traditional > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/n2nu4p <http://tinyurl.com/n2nu4p> > <http://tinyurl.com/n2nu4p <http://tinyurl.com/n2nu4p>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Management of Sprain, Strains and Trauma - Part One > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/mev7fz <http://tinyurl.com/mev7fz> > <http://tinyurl.com/mev7fz <http://tinyurl.com/mev7fz>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analysis and Evaluation on Acupuncture Treatment of Cervical Pains > > > in the > > > > > > > > UK - A Study of 74 Cases > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/nhah9v <http://tinyurl.com/nhah9v> > <http://tinyurl.com/nhah9v <http://tinyurl.com/nhah9v>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Book Review: The Art of Cupping. Hedwig Manz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/lwfpnn <http://tinyurl.com/lwfpnn> > <http://tinyurl.com/lwfpnn <http://tinyurl.com/lwfpnn>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Attilio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 I myself would be a little sad to see you go Mike. I always thought I'd get an interesting and knowledgeable point of view when I saw you posted something. And, it doesn't bother me that Attilio sends in urls for articles sometimes. He and Phil both do that, I look forward to them doing that, they pick stuff pretty carefully, they are the only ones who do it, so it isn't pervasive. It hasn't become a problem to me, none of this has. Peace. --- On Sat, 9/5/09, mike Bowser <naturaldoc1 wrote: mike Bowser <naturaldoc1 RE: Chinese Traditional Medicine Saturday, September 5, 2009, 11:04 PM David, Since when did respectful discourse become outlawed? I posted a respectful question to the group's moderator, asking about the group's policies toward this conduct. If you want more spam and fail to understand what I am asking, then simply remain ignorant. There is nothing wrong with my asking for clarity and it is not your place to decide. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc acudoc (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net Sat, 5 Sep 2009 22:53:59 -0400 Re: Well here is another view point for you Mike..... take your complaints elsewhere... or why don't you start your own TCM group. In plain english you are a pain in the ass... drop it, as I for one do not want you pc crap here. I am sure I am not alone. Better yet I wish Attilio would just drop your posts from the list Bug off ... just another point of view. David mike Bowser wrote: > > > > Attilio, > The issue here is not with the articles being free but that your > online journal is also selling other materials, which a person cannot > freely opt out of the ads. In some ways, it appears to be a lure to > buy. If you are the only one allowed to have links to advertising, > then it is a monopoly. Just another viewpoint. > > Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc > > > <Traditional _Chinese_ Medicine% 40. com> > attiliodalberto@ .co. uk <attiliodalb erto%40. co.uk> > Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:23:33 +0000 > Re: > > I don't know what the world is coming to when you give people high > quality articles for free and they moan and complain. If you don't > like the email, then delete it. > > The rules of the forum as laid initially by myself many years ago > where to promote TCM without any commercial posts. As these articles > are free to all, they are non-commercial. > > Other announcements such as CPDs, seminars, book releases, etc are > allowed one post each. > > Regards, > > Attilio > > Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine > <Traditional _Chinese_ Medicine% 40. com>, " Mercurius > Trismegistus " <magisterium_ magnum@.. .> wrote: > > > > > > Mike, leave. Let the people who post interesting articles and SETS of > > > articles stay. That's cool. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > " Al LO " <acphc > > > <traditional_ chinese_medicine > <traditional _chinese_ medicine% 40. com>> > > > Friday, September 04, 2009 11:56 PM > > > RE: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Mike, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand that you do not want to received any postings that my > look > > > > like spam. The articles of the " online magazine " that you wrote > about, are > > > > TCM related. I do not understand your post, it is something else > that you > > > > want to share with us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike, do not leave. I like and appreciate your contribution to the > group, > > > > but please be fair and respectful if you decide to make comments > or write > > > > about other members postings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, Adolfo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > traditional_ chinese_medicine > <traditional _chinese_ medicine% 40. com> > > > > naturaldoc1@ ... > > > > Sat, 5 Sep 2009 02:06:39 +0000 > > > > RE: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It might be nice to know what the policy is towards an online > magazine > > > > posting its many articles to this group. This is starting to look > like > > > > spam. Maybe the group's moderator can weigh in here. I am not > interested > > > > in getting all of this stuff either. Thanks > > > > > > > > Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc > > > > > <Traditional _Chinese_ Medicine% 40. com> > > > > sjeevanjee@. .. > > > > Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:46:57 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > > > Please take me off this list. With thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attiliodalberto <attiliodalberto@ ...> > > > > > > > > > <Traditional _Chinese_ Medicine% 40. com> > > > > > > > > Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:29 > > > > > > > > Latest Issue of CMT Now Out > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > Towards an Integrated Approach - Part One > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl. com/n9jyf8 <http://tinyurl. com/n9jyf8> > > > > > > > > Thought, History and Critique: An Appreciation of Chinese Medical > Canon > > > > Relative to Pulse Diagnosis > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl. com/m5t4vg <http://tinyurl. com/m5t4vg> > > > > > > > > The Treatment of High FSH Levels in Fertility Patients using > Traditional > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl. com/n2nu4p <http://tinyurl. com/n2nu4p> > > > > > > > > The Management of Sprain, Strains and Trauma - Part One > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl. com/mev7fz <http://tinyurl. com/mev7fz> > > > > > > > > Analysis and Evaluation on Acupuncture Treatment of Cervical Pains > in the > > > > UK - A Study of 74 Cases > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl. com/nhah9v <http://tinyurl. com/nhah9v> > > > > > > > > Book Review: The Art of Cupping. Hedwig Manz > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl. com/lwfpnn <http://tinyurl. com/lwfpnn> > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Attilio > > > > > > > > www.chinesemedicine times.com > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 I have not meant to mislead anyone. I could leave but after consideration, I will simply delete posts as I see fit. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine ykcul_ritsym Sat, 5 Sep 2009 21:03:04 -0700 RE: I myself would be a little sad to see you go Mike. I always thought I'd get an interesting and knowledgeable point of view when I saw you posted something. And, it doesn't bother me that Attilio sends in urls for articles sometimes. He and Phil both do that, I look forward to them doing that, they pick stuff pretty carefully, they are the only ones who do it, so it isn't pervasive. It hasn't become a problem to me, none of this has. Peace. --- On Sat, 9/5/09, mike Bowser <naturaldoc1 wrote: mike Bowser <naturaldoc1 RE: Chinese Traditional Medicine Saturday, September 5, 2009, 11:04 PM David, Since when did respectful discourse become outlawed? I posted a respectful question to the group's moderator, asking about the group's policies toward this conduct. If you want more spam and fail to understand what I am asking, then simply remain ignorant. There is nothing wrong with my asking for clarity and it is not your place to decide. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc acudoc (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net Sat, 5 Sep 2009 22:53:59 -0400 Re: Well here is another view point for you Mike..... take your complaints elsewhere... or why don't you start your own TCM group. In plain english you are a pain in the ass... drop it, as I for one do not want you pc crap here. I am sure I am not alone. Better yet I wish Attilio would just drop your posts from the list Bug off ... just another point of view. David mike Bowser wrote: > > > > Attilio, > The issue here is not with the articles being free but that your > online journal is also selling other materials, which a person cannot > freely opt out of the ads. In some ways, it appears to be a lure to > buy. If you are the only one allowed to have links to advertising, > then it is a monopoly. Just another viewpoint. > > Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc > > > <Traditional _Chinese_ Medicine% 40. com> > attiliodalberto@ .co. uk <attiliodalb erto%40. co.uk> > Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:23:33 +0000 > Re: > > I don't know what the world is coming to when you give people high > quality articles for free and they moan and complain. If you don't > like the email, then delete it. > > The rules of the forum as laid initially by myself many years ago > where to promote TCM without any commercial posts. As these articles > are free to all, they are non-commercial. > > Other announcements such as CPDs, seminars, book releases, etc are > allowed one post each. > > Regards, > > Attilio > > Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine > <Traditional _Chinese_ Medicine% 40. com>, " Mercurius > Trismegistus " <magisterium_ magnum@.. .> wrote: > > > > > > Mike, leave. Let the people who post interesting articles and SETS of > > > articles stay. That's cool. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > " Al LO " <acphc > > > <traditional_ chinese_medicine > <traditional _chinese_ medicine% 40. com>> > > > Friday, September 04, 2009 11:56 PM > > > RE: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Mike, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand that you do not want to received any postings that my > look > > > > like spam. The articles of the " online magazine " that you wrote > about, are > > > > TCM related. I do not understand your post, it is something else > that you > > > > want to share with us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike, do not leave. I like and appreciate your contribution to the > group, > > > > but please be fair and respectful if you decide to make comments > or write > > > > about other members postings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, Adolfo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > traditional_ chinese_medicine > <traditional _chinese_ medicine% 40. com> > > > > naturaldoc1@ ... > > > > Sat, 5 Sep 2009 02:06:39 +0000 > > > > RE: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It might be nice to know what the policy is towards an online > magazine > > > > posting its many articles to this group. This is starting to look > like > > > > spam. Maybe the group's moderator can weigh in here. I am not > interested > > > > in getting all of this stuff either. Thanks > > > > > > > > Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc > > > > > <Traditional _Chinese_ Medicine% 40. com> > > > > sjeevanjee@. .. > > > > Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:46:57 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > > > Please take me off this list. With thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attiliodalberto <attiliodalberto@ ...> > > > > > > > > > <Traditional _Chinese_ Medicine% 40. com> > > > > > > > > Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:29 > > > > > > > > Latest Issue of CMT Now Out > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > Towards an Integrated Approach - Part One > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl. com/n9jyf8 <http://tinyurl. com/n9jyf8> > > > > > > > > Thought, History and Critique: An Appreciation of Chinese Medical > Canon > > > > Relative to Pulse Diagnosis > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl. com/m5t4vg <http://tinyurl. com/m5t4vg> > > > > > > > > The Treatment of High FSH Levels in Fertility Patients using > Traditional > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl. com/n2nu4p <http://tinyurl. com/n2nu4p> > > > > > > > > The Management of Sprain, Strains and Trauma - Part One > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl. com/mev7fz <http://tinyurl. com/mev7fz> > > > > > > > > Analysis and Evaluation on Acupuncture Treatment of Cervical Pains > in the > > > > UK - A Study of 74 Cases > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl. com/nhah9v <http://tinyurl. com/nhah9v> > > > > > > > > Book Review: The Art of Cupping. Hedwig Manz > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl. com/lwfpnn <http://tinyurl. com/lwfpnn> > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Attilio > > > > > > > > www.chinesemedicine times.com > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 David, It appears that you have some anger here about this issue or myself. I have the right to ask a respectful question and find your responses to be highly inappropriate, whether you like them or not. I made a simple suggestion to seek improvement with this forum as it relates to marketing. I would hope that any one of us can make suggestions as well. In a professional forum, intimidating behavior is unheard of and lowers the level of discourse. Members should understand this and be respectful, not act out upon others. Questions and suggestions should be heralded, not feared. If you want no further comment on this, then refrain from responding. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine acudoc Sat, 5 Sep 2009 23:56:11 -0400 Re: It never ceases to amaze me when one hides behind " respectful discourse " as a ruse to disrupt the status quo. I have said it as it is.. I an far from ignorant and won't be played the fool. I have seen " respectful discourse " and requests for " clarity " disrupt and ruin many a group. So Mikey drop it... it is clear ... you asked you have been answered... the group will not change for you and your further disruptions are not welcome. As to if it is my place to decide... you are right, nor is it yours, but I am no covert.... Hope you got it. David Sontag, L.Ac, AP, DOM, Lic. Nutritionist...... and I will not bore you or the group with the rest of my credentials. mike Bowser wrote: > > > > David, > Since when did respectful discourse become outlawed? I posted a > respectful question to the group's moderator, asking about the group's > policies toward this conduct. If you want more spam and fail to > understand what I am asking, then simply remain ignorant. There is > nothing wrong with my asking for clarity and it is not your place to > decide. > > Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc > Chinese Medicine > <Chinese Medicine%40> > acudoc <acudoc%40bellsouth.net> > Sat, 5 Sep 2009 22:53:59 -0400 > Re: > > Well here is another view point for you Mike..... take your complaints > > elsewhere... or why don't you start your own TCM group. > > In plain english you are a pain in the ass... drop it, as I for one do > > not want you pc crap here. I am sure I am not alone. Better yet I wish > > Attilio would just drop your posts from the list > > Bug off ... just another point of view. > > David > > mike Bowser wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Attilio, > > > The issue here is not with the articles being free but that your > > > online journal is also selling other materials, which a person cannot > > > freely opt out of the ads. In some ways, it appears to be a lure to > > > buy. If you are the only one allowed to have links to advertising, > > > then it is a monopoly. Just another viewpoint. > > > > > > Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc > > > > > > Chinese Medicine > <Chinese Medicine%40> > > > <Chinese Medicine%40> > > > attiliodalberto > <attiliodalberto%40.co.uk> > <attiliodalberto%40.co.uk> > > > Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:23:33 +0000 > > > Re: > > > > > > I don't know what the world is coming to when you give people high > > > quality articles for free and they moan and complain. If you don't > > > like the email, then delete it. > > > > > > The rules of the forum as laid initially by myself many years ago > > > where to promote TCM without any commercial posts. As these articles > > > are free to all, they are non-commercial. > > > > > > Other announcements such as CPDs, seminars, book releases, etc are > > > allowed one post each. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Attilio > > > > > > Chinese Medicine > <Chinese Medicine%40> > > > <Chinese Medicine%40>, " Mercurius > > > Trismegistus " <magisterium_magnum wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike, leave. Let the people who post interesting articles and SETS of > > > > > > > articles stay. That's cool. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > " Al LO " <acphc > > > > > > > <Chinese Traditional Medicine > <Chinese Traditional Medicine%40> > > > <Chinese Traditional Medicine%40>> > > > > > > > Friday, September 04, 2009 11:56 PM > > > > > > > RE: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Mike, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand that you do not want to received any postings that my > > > look > > > > > > > > like spam. The articles of the " online magazine " that you wrote > > > about, are > > > > > > > > TCM related. I do not understand your post, it is something else > > > that you > > > > > > > > want to share with us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike, do not leave. I like and appreciate your contribution to the > > > group, > > > > > > > > but please be fair and respectful if you decide to make comments > > > or write > > > > > > > > about other members postings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, Adolfo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chinese Traditional Medicine > <Chinese Traditional Medicine%40> > > > <Chinese Traditional Medicine%40> > > > > > > > > naturaldoc1 > > > > > > > > Sat, 5 Sep 2009 02:06:39 +0000 > > > > > > > > RE: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It might be nice to know what the policy is towards an online > > > magazine > > > > > > > > posting its many articles to this group. This is starting to look > > > like > > > > > > > > spam. Maybe the group's moderator can weigh in here. I am not > > > interested > > > > > > > > in getting all of this stuff either. Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc > > > > > > > > Chinese Medicine > <Chinese Medicine%40> > > > <Chinese Medicine%40> > > > > > > > > sjeevanjee > > > > > > > > Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:46:57 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please take me off this list. With thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attiliodalberto <attiliodalberto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chinese Medicine > <Chinese Medicine%40> > > > <Chinese Medicine%40> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:29 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Latest Issue of CMT Now Out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Towards an Integrated Approach - Part One > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/n9jyf8 <http://tinyurl.com/n9jyf8> > <http://tinyurl.com/n9jyf8 <http://tinyurl.com/n9jyf8>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thought, History and Critique: An Appreciation of Chinese Medical > > > Canon > > > > > > > > Relative to Pulse Diagnosis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/m5t4vg <http://tinyurl.com/m5t4vg> > <http://tinyurl.com/m5t4vg <http://tinyurl.com/m5t4vg>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Treatment of High FSH Levels in Fertility Patients using > > > Traditional > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/n2nu4p <http://tinyurl.com/n2nu4p> > <http://tinyurl.com/n2nu4p <http://tinyurl.com/n2nu4p>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Management of Sprain, Strains and Trauma - Part One > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/mev7fz <http://tinyurl.com/mev7fz> > <http://tinyurl.com/mev7fz <http://tinyurl.com/mev7fz>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analysis and Evaluation on Acupuncture Treatment of Cervical Pains > > > in the > > > > > > > > UK - A Study of 74 Cases > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/nhah9v <http://tinyurl.com/nhah9v> > <http://tinyurl.com/nhah9v <http://tinyurl.com/nhah9v>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Book Review: The Art of Cupping. Hedwig Manz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/lwfpnn <http://tinyurl.com/lwfpnn> > <http://tinyurl.com/lwfpnn <http://tinyurl.com/lwfpnn>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Attilio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Let's keep the discussion respectful. I didn't agree with Mike's point, but he certainly has a right to express it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 > Dear Colleagues, > I always read the posts on our group with interest and > appreciation and find the overwhelming majority to be respectful and > professional. Occasionally, however, I read some that leave me > wondering. > My personal belief is that who we are in all aspects of our > lives is exactly who we are for our patients. If we jump into this > professional group and express our views by demeaning those with > whom we disagree, how can that not be part of who we are in the > treatment room? > We are each a work in progress; each a " wounded healer " in our > own human imperfections, so I raise these questions gently and with > compassion, Liz Casey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Very well said! Gabe --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Elizabeth Casey <lizzzrd wrote: Elizabeth Casey <lizzzrd Fwd: Chinese Medicine Monday, September 7, 2009, 11:04 PM > Dear Colleagues, > I always read the posts on our group with interest and > appreciation and find the overwhelming majority to be respectful and > professional. Occasionally, however, I read some that leave me > wondering. > My personal belief is that who we are in all aspects of our > lives is exactly who we are for our patients. If we jump into this > professional group and express our views by demeaning those with > whom we disagree, how can that not be part of who we are in the > treatment room? > We are each a work in progress; each a " wounded healer " in our > own human imperfections, so I raise these questions gently and with > compassion, Liz Casey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Just wanted to say that i always enjoy and read with interest all the CMT articles posted on this group, i think it is entirely appropriate that articles that pertain to acupunture should be posted here. thanks for all your hard work Attilo, Larissa McGoldrick LAc Chinese Medicine , Elizabeth Casey <lizzzrd wrote: > > > Dear Colleagues, > > I always read the posts on our group with interest and > > appreciation and find the overwhelming majority to be respectful and > > professional. Occasionally, however, I read some that leave me > > wondering. > > My personal belief is that who we are in all aspects of our > > lives is exactly who we are for our patients. If we jump into this > > professional group and express our views by demeaning those with > > whom we disagree, how can that not be part of who we are in the > > treatment room? > > We are each a work in progress; each a " wounded healer " in our > > own human imperfections, so I raise these questions gently and with > > compassion, Liz Casey > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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