Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 I'm looking for suggestions on healing the shoulder pain I have. Deep tissue massage or trigger point therapy usually helps but isn't coming close lately. It feels like something is pinched near my shoulder blade. The therapist said the muscles/tendons there are very tight and like concrete. It actually doesn't bother me that much during the day, but it seriously affects my sleep as my arm and fingers get a weird tingling/burning sensation that wakes me up after 4 hours of sleep. Then I have to lay flat out on my back, sometimes rub my hands or arms to get the sensation more normal. I turn back on my side to sleep, and it's back to the same in no time. No, I can't seem to sleep on my back, as much as I've tried! Thanks, Cindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 I dont have a cure, but temporary relief. I have same thing any any relief is better than nothing. I use a over the counter medicine called STOP PAIN. It comes in a spray that you can spray on yourself and is not sticky, and you can turn it upside down and spray it on your back yourself. It also comes in a roll on. Wonderful thing is, it is not sticky and if you live by yourself you can spray it on yourself. It can be found at Walgreens and CVS I know. It comes in 2 sizes, but do not get the large size for 12.99, get the small size as it is extra strength. I know you wanted a cure, but it at least relieves the pain for a couple of hours so you can get to sleep. kiaradaze <ckirchhoff wrote: I'm looking for suggestions on healing the shoulder pain I have. Deep tissue massage or trigger point therapy usually helps but isn't coming close lately. It feels like something is pinched near my shoulder blade. The therapist said the muscles/tendons there are very tight and like concrete. It actually doesn't bother me that much during the day, but it seriously affects my sleep as my arm and fingers get a weird tingling/burning sensation that wakes me up after 4 hours of sleep. Then I have to lay flat out on my back, sometimes rub my hands or arms to get the sensation more normal. I turn back on my side to sleep, and it's back to the same in no time. No, I can't seem to sleep on my back, as much as I've tried! Thanks, Cindy Linda Clements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Although you speak of shoulder pain, it occurs to me some of the symptoms you are having may be associated with carpal tunnel, which if advanced enough can affect the nerve up the arm as well. Do you curl your wrists in when you sleep? Is the tingling and numbness more prominent on one side or the other? (pinky vs thumb) If any of this seems familiar, try especially hard to sleep with your hands in a relaxed position. I had severe carpal and medial tunnel, it got to the point where I actually didn't feel it once when I cut myself. Although surgery was considered the only althernative (since medications didn't do much) I wore wrist braces, took B vitamins (for nervous system health and rejuvenation, paid attention to how I drove and slept, and now am symptom free. It took months, and there have been some exacerbations, but never severe, and always treatable in a few days. Good luck, nerve pain isn't pleasant. Linda , " kiaradaze " <ckirchhoff wrote: > > I'm looking for suggestions on healing the shoulder pain I have. Deep tissue massage or > trigger point therapy usually helps but isn't coming close lately. It feels like something is > pinched near my shoulder blade. The therapist said the muscles/tendons there are very > tight and like concrete. > > It actually doesn't bother me that much during the day, but it seriously affects my sleep as > my arm and fingers get a weird tingling/burning sensation that wakes me up after 4 hours > of sleep. Then I have to lay flat out on my back, sometimes rub my hands or arms to get > the sensation more normal. I turn back on my side to sleep, and it's back to the same in > no time. No, I can't seem to sleep on my back, as much as I've tried! > > Thanks, > Cindy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Cindy, This sounds like something Recovazon gell, applied topically might be good for. There is a simple way to find out: ask me for a sample. ienvan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Dear Cindy, Sounds to me like you have thoracic outlet syndrome. This is a condition where the nerves that pass through the shoulder get pinched and start to create tingling and/or numbness in the arm or hand. This can get pretty serious if you don't take care of it properly. A good resource for helpful information is http://www.selfcare4rsi.com There's a lot of free information, plus some really helpful stretching programs. Check it out. Sharon > I'm looking for suggestions on healing the shoulder pain I > have. Deep tissue massage or trigger point therapy > usually helps but isn't coming close lately. It feels like > something is pinched near my shoulder blade. The > therapist said the muscles/tendons there are very tight > and like concrete. > > It actually doesn't bother me that much during the day, > but it seriously affects my sleep as my arm and fingers > get a weird tingling/burning sensation that wakes me up > after 4 hours of sleep. Then I have to lay flat out on my > back, sometimes rub my hands or arms to get the sensation > more normal. I turn back on my side to sleep, and it's > back to the same in no time. No, I can't seem to sleep on > my back, as much as I've tried! > > Thanks, > Cindy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Bowen Therapy is miraculous when it comes to Shoulder Pain. This would be the first thing I would try. I have had clients who have had frozen shoulders for up to 10 years and after one treatment of Bowen, they have full use of there arm again. The same goes for shoulder pain. If you need to find a local practioner go to: http://www.bowtech.com All the best Diana Moore http://www.bowentherapy.homestead.com http://www.emotionalfreedom.homestead.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Is the pain between your shoulder blades but on one side or the other? Does it seem like it's a little lower than it actually is? If so, a rib head, the joint between your rib and spine, might need the attentions of your chiropractor or osteopath if massage therapy is no longer helpful. They would also be able to assess if the problem is something else, such as a broken bone or something visceral. Sometimes massage, ice, or something to dull the pain may give you relief, but it is often temporary until the cause is resolved. Toni On 1/7/07, Diana Moore <thebowentechnique wrote: > > Bowen Therapy is miraculous when it comes to Shoulder Pain. This > would be the first thing I would try. I have had clients who have had > frozen shoulders for up to 10 years and after one treatment of Bowen, > they have full use of there arm again. The same goes for shoulder > pain. > > If you need to find a local practioner go to: > > http://www.bowtech.com > > All the best > Diana Moore > http://www.bowentherapy.homestead.com > http://www.emotionalfreedom.homestead.com > > > -- In wellness, Toni D. Roberts, BA, LMT Cumberland Muscle Therapy 2470 Windy Hill Road SE, Suite 131 Marietta, Georgia 30067-8617 (770) 984-8040 forums www.cumberlandmuscletherapy.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Before you try OTC medicine, make sure it's all natural. I would also suggest a Chiroprator. Susan in KY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 , susan <susan134 wrote: > > Before you try OTC medicine, make sure it's all natural. I would also suggest a Chiroprator. > > Susan in KY > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 , susan <susan134 wrote: > > Before you try OTC medicine, make sure it's all natural. I would also suggest a Chiroprator. > > Susan in KY > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Wow! First, thanks to everyone for all the suggestions. I will be following up on them; it gives me a lot of things to try. I have a gel here, I think, that is similar to the Stop Pain another poster mentioned. If that doesn't help, though, I'll be hitting the drugstore tomorrow! Temporary relief - and a good night's sleep - would be most welcome while I sort out the rest. Now, to answer your questions, Linda: I think I do tend to curl up my wrists when I sleep. I definitely sleep on my side, and I believe I curl my wrists in and under my chin. I tried last night to lay the upper arm out straight, and I just couldn't get to sleep. Any suggestions on reforming how I sleep? The tingling/numbness/burning is definitely in my thumb, index and middle finger. It doesn't exist at all in my ring finger or pinky. This part comes on even when I'm driving or trying to hold a fork or chopsticks. Any recommendations on how to hold my arm/hand in everyday activites? I would hate to consider surgery; that's a definite! I'll do about anything before that. It's interesting you mentioned the B vitamins. I generally take those in the summer since it appears to make me bug-resistant. (I used to get bitten by every mosquito around, I swear.) But I haven't taken them lately. I'll start again now. Again - thanks so much, Cindy , " laughingtoe13 " <laughingtoe13 wrote: > > Although you speak of shoulder pain, it occurs to me some of the > symptoms you are having may be associated with carpal tunnel, which if > advanced enough can affect the nerve up the arm as well. Do you curl > your wrists in when you sleep? Is the tingling and numbness more > prominent on one side or the other? (pinky vs thumb) If any of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 I have a pair of wrist splints I wear at night to keep my hands from curling up. I also wear a pair of thin cotton gloves they keep my hands warm so I don't sleep on them. When I wear my gloves I have alot less pain and numbness the next day. That is the pain I have and was dx'ed with Carpel Tunnel in both arms. Suzie On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 04:37 +0000, kiaradaze wrote: <snip> > I think I do tend to curl up my wrists when I sleep. I definitely > sleep on my side, and I > believe I curl my wrists in and under my chin. I tried last night to > lay the upper arm out > straight, and I just couldn't get to sleep. Any suggestions on > reforming how I sleep? > > The tingling/numbness/burning is definitely in my thumb, index and > middle finger. It > doesn't exist at all in my ring finger or pinky. This part comes on > even when I'm driving or > trying to hold a fork or chopsticks. Any recommendations on how to > hold my arm/hand in > everyday activites? > > I would hate to consider surgery; that's a definite! I'll do about > anything before that. It's > interesting you mentioned the B vitamins. I generally take those in > the summer since it > appears to make me bug-resistant. (I used to get bitten by every > mosquito around, I > swear.) But I haven't taken them lately. I'll start again now. > > Again - thanks so much, > Cindy > > , " laughingtoe13 " > <laughingtoe13 > wrote: > > > > Although you speak of shoulder pain, it occurs to me some of the > > symptoms you are having may be associated with carpal tunnel, which > if > > advanced enough can affect the nerve up the arm as well. Do you curl > > your wrists in when you sleep? Is the tingling and numbness more > > prominent on one side or the other? (pinky vs thumb) If any of this > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 I have read recently and have also been told by the surgeon who did my right wrist 3 years ago that splints are now being found to cause more damage than good. They are responsible for scar tissue builing up around the carpal tunnel which is inflammed. The inflammation is what needs to be reduced rather than splints and surgery. I used a similar device to a TENS unit when I first started having trouble with wonderful results. The fellow who had it dissappeared and I couldn't continue treatments. I ended up having both wrists done within 3 years. Severe scar tissue with last surgery. Due to the surgery I have a constant numbness in the palm of my left hand and meridian damage from both surgeries. I would use a TENS, ice and work with a massage therapist who can do structural work breaking up scar tissue and reducing inflammation. There are many alternatives out there to surgery and the pain. Because of the scar tissue I occassionally get symptoms again. I use the TENS unit and Biofeedback for sports injuries and spinal energy flow and the pain goes away. No more splints or meds. I had carpal for so long I couldn't hold a pencil to write or a sponge to clean. They would simply fall out of my hands. Jenny Kernan --- Suzie Steiner <suzie.steiner wrote: > I have a pair of wrist splints I wear at night to > keep my hands from > curling up. I also wear a pair of thin cotton > gloves they keep my hands > warm so I don't sleep on them. > > When I wear my gloves I have alot less pain and > numbness the next day. > > That is the pain I have and was dx'ed with Carpel > Tunnel in both arms. > > Suzie > > On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 04:37 +0000, kiaradaze wrote: > <snip> > > I think I do tend to curl up my wrists when I > sleep. I definitely > > sleep on my side, and I > > believe I curl my wrists in and under my chin. I > tried last night to > > lay the upper arm out > > straight, and I just couldn't get to sleep. Any > suggestions on > > reforming how I sleep? > > > > The tingling/numbness/burning is definitely in my > thumb, index and > > middle finger. It > > doesn't exist at all in my ring finger or pinky. > This part comes on > > even when I'm driving or > > trying to hold a fork or chopsticks. Any > recommendations on how to > > hold my arm/hand in > > everyday activites? > > > > I would hate to consider surgery; that's a > definite! I'll do about > > anything before that. It's > > interesting you mentioned the B vitamins. I > generally take those in > > the summer since it > > appears to make me bug-resistant. (I used to get > bitten by every > > mosquito around, I > > swear.) But I haven't taken them lately. I'll > start again now. > > > > Again - thanks so much, > > Cindy > > > > , > " laughingtoe13 " > > <laughingtoe13 > > wrote: > > > > > > Although you speak of shoulder pain, it occurs > to me some of the > > > symptoms you are having may be associated with > carpal tunnel, which > > if > > > advanced enough can affect the nerve up the arm > as well. Do you curl > > > your wrists in when you sleep? Is the tingling > and numbness more > > > prominent on one side or the other? (pinky vs > thumb) If any of this > > > > > > > > > > > > Quantum Biofeedback Therapy Remote Healing or Local Sessions www.QuantumAssociatesofUtah.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 i am sending this formula is very sucsesive plees this dose are daily therr time 1. ASEGANDH NAGORI 2.HIRAN KHURI 3.NAGE KESARE 4.TAL MAKHANA 5.BLACK SEEDSE(KALA TIL) THIS ARE IN INDIAN LANGVAGE THIS HREBASOL VEY EFACTIVE FROM LASTE FIVE TP SAVEN YEARS I CAN WRITE IT linda clements <linda_clements2002 wrote: I dont have a cure, but temporary relief. I have same thing any any relief is better than nothing. I use a over the counter medicine called STOP PAIN. It comes in a spray that you can spray on yourself and is not sticky, and you can turn it upside down and spray it on your back yourself. It also comes in a roll on. Wonderful thing is, it is not sticky and if you live by yourself you can spray it on yourself. It can be found at Walgreens and CVS I know. It comes in 2 sizes, but do not get the large size for 12.99, get the small size as it is extra strength. I know you wanted a cure, but it at least relieves the pain for a couple of hours so you can get to sleep. kiaradaze <ckirchhoff wrote: I'm looking for suggestions on healing the shoulder pain I have. Deep tissue massage or trigger point therapy usually helps but isn't coming close lately. It feels like something is pinched near my shoulder blade. The therapist said the muscles/tendons there are very tight and like concrete. It actually doesn't bother me that much during the day, but it seriously affects my sleep as my arm and fingers get a weird tingling/burning sensation that wakes me up after 4 hours of sleep. Then I have to lay flat out on my back, sometimes rub my hands or arms to get the sensation more normal. I turn back on my side to sleep, and it's back to the same in no time. No, I can't seem to sleep on my back, as much as I've tried! Thanks, Cindy Linda Clements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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