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<mojavecowboy wrote:

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> My experience with her is that, just as she falls

> asleep, she will suddenly stop breathing. I give her

> mouth to mouth, and then she emerges out of that brief

> pause with her heart beating very fast.

>

>> Would like to know if anyone has heard of anything

> like this, and then what to do about it. The closest I

> can think of is severe sleep apnia in WM but not sure

> this even comes close.

>

> Kind regards, Jack

>

 

 

My neighbour has this condition, so he sleeps connected to a machine

now that makes him breathe when he stops. He is a large, tall,

rangy, expanded kind of a person, physically, tho not fat, if you

know the type of build I mean. Not that that necessarily has

anything to do with his breathing weakness, just an observation. -

Mrs. B.

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Mrs. Barley:

 

Thank you for this, she is rather tall for a Chinese

woman.

 

When she was 56 days old, someone took her for a walk

over a bridge during cold weather, and she developed

poor health from that time. Perhaps this part of her

heart never developed because of this illness.

 

Kind regards, Jack

 

--- " Mrs. Barley " <chosenbarley wrote:

 

> Chinese Traditional Medicine , Jack Sweeney

> <mojavecowboy wrote:

> >

> >>

> > My experience with her is that, just as she falls

> > asleep, she will suddenly stop breathing. I give

> her

> > mouth to mouth, and then she emerges out of that

> brief

> > pause with her heart beating very fast.

> >

> >> Would like to know if anyone has heard of

> anything

> > like this, and then what to do about it. The

> closest I

> > can think of is severe sleep apnia in WM but not

> sure

> > this even comes close.

> >

> > Kind regards, Jack

> >

>

>

> My neighbour has this condition, so he sleeps

> connected to a machine

> now that makes him breathe when he stops. He is a

> large, tall,

> rangy, expanded kind of a person, physically, tho

> not fat, if you

> know the type of build I mean. Not that that

> necessarily has

> anything to do with his breathing weakness, just an

> observation. -

> Mrs. B.

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" Jack Sweeney " mojavecowboy wrote:

 

> My wife just told me about a problem she has had for

> twenty years or more. I'm not sure whether she said

> she is missing part of the pericardium or some of the

> vessels or tubes that wrap around the heart, but she

> is deficient in one of these.

>

> A doctor in Taiwan told her that an operation for this

> was not necessary.

>

> My experience with her is that, just as she falls

> asleep, she will suddenly stop breathing. I give her

> mouth to mouth, and then she emerges out of that brief

> pause with her heart beating very fast.

>

> All of this lasts for just a few minutes, and then she

> falls asleep peacefully. She told me it was much worse

> twenty years ago in Taiwan, when she would be out for

> half an hour, or at one point for seventy hours.

>

> Would like to know if anyone has heard of anything

> like this, and then what to do about it. The closest I

> can think of is severe sleep apnia in WM but not sure

> this even comes close.

 

This sounds like sleep apnea and she may need to see a sleep

specialist. I don't know that her being out in a wind when she was an

infant (as you mentioned in the other post) would result in the

pericardium not fully developing as it should be as developed as it's

going to be at birth. It may be a heart defect she was born with.

 

sue

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello Vinod, Suzee, everyone:

 

Thank you for your suggestions, we will probably do

both, Chinese and Western medicine.

 

She reports that her childhood disease was " Ji Xing

Fei Yan " which translates into " emergency or extreme

lung inflammation. "

 

I don't know whether that is the cause, but she says

that she was sick throughout childhood because of this

exposure. As a young adult in Taiwan she reports that

symptoms were worse.

 

We have moved from Guangzhou so I don't know doctors

in this city but her family lives here so we should be

able to find good doctors.

 

Thanks again, Jack

 

--- Vinod Kumar <vinod3x3 wrote:

 

> Hi Jack -

>

> I would think rheumatic fever in childhood as a

> possible cause of

> such symptoms. There are several things that can

> cause these

> anomalies - ANS imbalance (very common) - myopathy -

> mitral valve

> damage - excess cortisol and or thyroid - defecient

> cortisol and or

> thyroid - autoimmune disease (lupus type of diseases

> can cause many

> CNS and ANS anomalies).

>

> If she is a basically passive person with nervous

> symptoms then she

> probaly has some kind of heart defeciency - if she

> is a very

> energetic person with nervous symptoms then she

> probably has a

> hormonal excess.

>

> Two types of patterns often seen are childhood

> diseases like Mono or

> rheumatic fever cause damage to the mitral valve and

> this will

> manifest later as various types of arrythmia -

> another pattern is

> exhaustive processes that imbalance the ANS and

> cause the

> sympathetic system to be over excited and this

> causes arrythmias. If

> there is a great imbalance between the dopamine and

> the seratonin

> functions then GABA will be imbalanced and one will

> see many SNS

> symptoms.

>

> Try to determine if the apnea is a true apnea - does

> she actually

> stop breathing? If not then perhaps it is a simple

> over compensation

> of the SNS when falling into the hypnogogic state

> (it could be

> something like a mild seasure). If it is true apnea

> then she should

> be throughly examined by a qualified physician to

> determine the

> cause. Apnea can be a very dangerous disease and

> should be either

> eliminated as a diagnosis or treated. Did you have

> her to your

> acupuncture teacher? If this is an ANS and or CNS

> problem

> acupuncture should be helpful. Otherwise take her to

> a good

> herbalist and let them treat the patterns as they

> are presenting

> now.

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  • 7 months later...

For starters he could do better on folic acid, magnesium and CoQ10. Bananas

and yogurt for calcium and potassium..20 minute baths with Epsom Salts will

allow magnesium to get into his system through the skin. He should not be on

a salt free diet either. He needs some salt. Of course no excessive salt

consumption. Salmon and salmon oil caps are beneficial. Dark green leafy

vegetables contain folic acid also.

(Epsom salts are magnesium not salt ) It is needed allow to muscles to

expand and contract smoothly. The heart is a muscle.that expands and contracts.

Also an herb that helps is milk thistle seed which can be taken in capsules,

tinctures or just seed sprinkled on food. Hope this advice will help.

Peace,

thyme

 

 

 

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I have a friend in Florida who is in his early sixties and is having

problems with irregular heartbeats. Sometimes it beats really fast.

He refuses to go to the doctor and he will not get a computer.

Can any of you tell me what he should be taking?

Thank you for your help.

Margi

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Well, he does need to see a doctor. This can be life threatening.

 

Some things he can do that may help is to be sure he gets

enough magnesium in his diet. Magnesium helps regulate our

heart beat. The typical American diet today does not give

you enough so he probably needs to take supplements.

350mg a day will help. He also needs calcium & other

minerals as they all seem to work together. Too little

or too much potassium can also cause problems.

CQ10 gives the heart more energy.

 

Offer to take him to see a doctor. My mother had this

problem & for a while she had to take some pills. Tell

him it may be that simple. If it is worse, a pacemaker

will help. Tell him that not knowing is worse that finding

out what is wrong, even if it is serious. All that stress

& worry about it will not help.

J

 

, Margi Crook <Margi

wrote:

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> I have a friend in Florida who is in his early sixties and is having

> problems with irregular heartbeats. Sometimes it beats really fast.

> He refuses to go to the doctor and he will not get a computer.

> Can any of you tell me what he should be taking?

> Thank you for your help.

> Margi

>

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Margi wrote:

 

I have a friend in Florida who is in his early sixties and is having

problems with irregular heartbeats. Sometimes it beats really fast.

He refuses to go to the doctor and he will not get a computer.

Can any of you tell me what he should be taking?

Thank you for your help.

Margi

 

Margi,

 

Why does your friend refuse to see a doctor?

If he is afraid of being prescribed drugs, he can

always refuse them. (It is his body, what a concept)

 

But he needs to see a doctor for a diagnosis,

and THEN we can all figure out what the

best diet and supplements might be.

I think someone mentioned magnesium.

It has no side effects, it is cheap and calming.

Good idea. Vitamin E, ditto.

 

Also:

According to Traditional

the liver is the father of the heart.

It never hurts to be nice to your liver.

Drink some Dandelion tea, some MILD

liver support like Maria Treben's Sweden

Bitters, stuff like that. NO heroic cleanses

that might be a strain. Be gentle.

 

But otherwise, let's be cautious.

We don't want to practice medicine without

a licence.

 

Ien in the Kootenays

http://freegreenliving.com

 

 

 

 

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Thanks for the advice. I live in Alabama and there is no way I can

get there to

make him go to the doctor. I will call him and tell him. He is a

telephone friend

like people on this list are internet friends.

Margi

 

okedoke89 wrote:

 

> Well, he does need to see a doctor. This can be life threatening.

>

> Some things he can do that may help is to be sure he gets

> enough magnesium in his diet. Magnesium helps regulate our

> heart beat. The typical American diet today does not give

> you enough so he probably needs to take supplements.

> 350mg a day will help. He also needs calcium & other

> minerals as they all seem to work together. Too little

> or too much potassium can also cause problems.

> CQ10 gives the heart more energy.

>

> Offer to take him to see a doctor. My mother had this

> problem & for a while she had to take some pills. Tell

> him it may be that simple. If it is worse, a pacemaker

> will help. Tell him that not knowing is worse that finding

> out what is wrong, even if it is serious. All that stress

> & worry about it will not help.

> J

>

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> <%40>, Margi Crook <Margi

> wrote:

> >

> > I have a friend in Florida who is in his early sixties and is having

> > problems with irregular heartbeats. Sometimes it beats really fast.

> > He refuses to go to the doctor and he will not get a computer.

> > Can any of you tell me what he should be taking?

> > Thank you for your help.

> > Margi

> >

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Take a glass of lime juic and simply relax at bed .

If he sleeps well that is good.

Avoid alcohol ,coffee etc.

crdialogists can prscribe some medicines which will

certinly help.

no ned to woory.

vidhyasagar

 

 

--- Margi Crook <Margi wrote:

 

> I have a friend in Florida who is in his early

> sixties and is having

> problems with irregular heartbeats. Sometimes it

> beats really fast.

> He refuses to go to the doctor and he will not get

> a computer.

> Can any of you tell me what he should be taking?

> Thank you for your help.

> Margi

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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That made me think of MAGNESIUM. I started finding out about magnesium

after I developed asthma symptoms, and the magnesium was just about

miraculous in helping me breathe.

 

They say that most Americans (at least) are pretty severely deficient

in magnesium (from our severely depleted food), and that our bodies

need lots and lots of magnesium for all kinds of proper function,

including regulating heartbeat. There is lots of information on the

internet.

 

Joy

 

, Margi Crook <Margi wrote:

>

> I have a friend in Florida who is in his early sixties and is having

> problems with irregular heartbeats. Sometimes it beats really fast.

> He refuses to go to the doctor and he will not get a computer.

> Can any of you tell me what he should be taking?

> Thank you for your help.

> Margi

>

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I tell you what made my heart beat better. So much so, I would never

want to be without it...especially in florida...My heart would spto

for a sec or skip a beat, and then beat back with an extra

force...taking some selenium stops it right away, and makes all

better...usually take with vit e. And deficiency of selenium does

cause certain athletes to drop dead of heat attack...when all that was

needed is a tiny amount of selenium. It's really the only thing I

needed before leaf. It's very unsettling when you feeel your heart

screwing up...probably due to me pushing up my heatrate in those

aerobics claases years ago...and definately cut out drinking of much

carbonated sodas. Coffee doesn't seem to affect thouigh.Selenium good

for smoking and air pollution too...very important. No selenium in

soil in fla, unlike somewhere like colorado...

Just my experience

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Tell your friend to do deep breathing (Pranayama) for

30 minutes morning and evening. He will find changes.

Our heart has four parts. Upper left, lower left,

upper right and loer right. the left side pumps pure

blood to the heart and body. 60% od the blood is

required to keep the heart working. 40% goes to the

body. The impure blood comes to the right side and

then to the lungs for purification. The purified blood

goes again to the left side for further circulation.

 

If there is any choke up in the route, the heart has

to work overtime. At that time the heart beating may

increase. Heart beating may also increase if your

friend is tensed up. Deep breathing should solve your

friend's problem.

 

In ayurveda, there is a capsule known as Rudved. If

available locally, he can take one capsule in the

motning 30 minutes before food, on empty stomach.

--- Ieneke van Houten <ienvan wrote:

 

> Margi wrote:

>

> I have a friend in Florida who is in his early

> sixties and is having

> problems with irregular heartbeats. Sometimes it

> beats really fast.

> He refuses to go to the doctor and he will not get a

> computer.

> Can any of you tell me what he should be taking?

> Thank you for your help.

> Margi

>

> Margi,

>

> Why does your friend refuse to see a doctor?

> If he is afraid of being prescribed drugs, he can

> always refuse them. (It is his body, what a concept)

>

> But he needs to see a doctor for a diagnosis,

> and THEN we can all figure out what the

> best diet and supplements might be.

> I think someone mentioned magnesium.

> It has no side effects, it is cheap and calming.

> Good idea. Vitamin E, ditto.

>

> Also:

> According to Traditional

> the liver is the father of the heart.

> It never hurts to be nice to your liver.

> Drink some Dandelion tea, some MILD

> liver support like Maria Treben's Sweden

> Bitters, stuff like that. NO heroic cleanses

> that might be a strain. Be gentle.

>

> But otherwise, let's be cautious.

> We don't want to practice medicine without

> a licence.

>

> Ien in the Kootenays

> http://freegreenliving.com

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

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