Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Chinese Traditional Medicine , Jack Sweeney <mojavecowboy wrote: > >> > My experience with her is that, just as she falls > asleep, she will suddenly stop breathing. I give her > mouth to mouth, and then she emerges out of that brief > pause with her heart beating very fast. > >> Would like to know if anyone has heard of anything > like this, and then what to do about it. The closest I > can think of is severe sleep apnia in WM but not sure > this even comes close. > > Kind regards, Jack > My neighbour has this condition, so he sleeps connected to a machine now that makes him breathe when he stops. He is a large, tall, rangy, expanded kind of a person, physically, tho not fat, if you know the type of build I mean. Not that that necessarily has anything to do with his breathing weakness, just an observation. - Mrs. B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2006 Report Share Posted May 27, 2006 Mrs. Barley: Thank you for this, she is rather tall for a Chinese woman. When she was 56 days old, someone took her for a walk over a bridge during cold weather, and she developed poor health from that time. Perhaps this part of her heart never developed because of this illness. Kind regards, Jack --- " Mrs. Barley " <chosenbarley wrote: > Chinese Traditional Medicine , Jack Sweeney > <mojavecowboy wrote: > > > >> > > My experience with her is that, just as she falls > > asleep, she will suddenly stop breathing. I give > her > > mouth to mouth, and then she emerges out of that > brief > > pause with her heart beating very fast. > > > >> Would like to know if anyone has heard of > anything > > like this, and then what to do about it. The > closest I > > can think of is severe sleep apnia in WM but not > sure > > this even comes close. > > > > Kind regards, Jack > > > > > My neighbour has this condition, so he sleeps > connected to a machine > now that makes him breathe when he stops. He is a > large, tall, > rangy, expanded kind of a person, physically, tho > not fat, if you > know the type of build I mean. Not that that > necessarily has > anything to do with his breathing weakness, just an > observation. - > Mrs. B. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2006 Report Share Posted May 27, 2006 " Jack Sweeney " mojavecowboy wrote: > My wife just told me about a problem she has had for > twenty years or more. I'm not sure whether she said > she is missing part of the pericardium or some of the > vessels or tubes that wrap around the heart, but she > is deficient in one of these. > > A doctor in Taiwan told her that an operation for this > was not necessary. > > My experience with her is that, just as she falls > asleep, she will suddenly stop breathing. I give her > mouth to mouth, and then she emerges out of that brief > pause with her heart beating very fast. > > All of this lasts for just a few minutes, and then she > falls asleep peacefully. She told me it was much worse > twenty years ago in Taiwan, when she would be out for > half an hour, or at one point for seventy hours. > > Would like to know if anyone has heard of anything > like this, and then what to do about it. The closest I > can think of is severe sleep apnia in WM but not sure > this even comes close. This sounds like sleep apnea and she may need to see a sleep specialist. I don't know that her being out in a wind when she was an infant (as you mentioned in the other post) would result in the pericardium not fully developing as it should be as developed as it's going to be at birth. It may be a heart defect she was born with. sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Hello Vinod, Suzee, everyone: Thank you for your suggestions, we will probably do both, Chinese and Western medicine. She reports that her childhood disease was " Ji Xing Fei Yan " which translates into " emergency or extreme lung inflammation. " I don't know whether that is the cause, but she says that she was sick throughout childhood because of this exposure. As a young adult in Taiwan she reports that symptoms were worse. We have moved from Guangzhou so I don't know doctors in this city but her family lives here so we should be able to find good doctors. Thanks again, Jack --- Vinod Kumar <vinod3x3 wrote: > Hi Jack - > > I would think rheumatic fever in childhood as a > possible cause of > such symptoms. There are several things that can > cause these > anomalies - ANS imbalance (very common) - myopathy - > mitral valve > damage - excess cortisol and or thyroid - defecient > cortisol and or > thyroid - autoimmune disease (lupus type of diseases > can cause many > CNS and ANS anomalies). > > If she is a basically passive person with nervous > symptoms then she > probaly has some kind of heart defeciency - if she > is a very > energetic person with nervous symptoms then she > probably has a > hormonal excess. > > Two types of patterns often seen are childhood > diseases like Mono or > rheumatic fever cause damage to the mitral valve and > this will > manifest later as various types of arrythmia - > another pattern is > exhaustive processes that imbalance the ANS and > cause the > sympathetic system to be over excited and this > causes arrythmias. If > there is a great imbalance between the dopamine and > the seratonin > functions then GABA will be imbalanced and one will > see many SNS > symptoms. > > Try to determine if the apnea is a true apnea - does > she actually > stop breathing? If not then perhaps it is a simple > over compensation > of the SNS when falling into the hypnogogic state > (it could be > something like a mild seasure). If it is true apnea > then she should > be throughly examined by a qualified physician to > determine the > cause. Apnea can be a very dangerous disease and > should be either > eliminated as a diagnosis or treated. Did you have > her to your > acupuncture teacher? If this is an ANS and or CNS > problem > acupuncture should be helpful. Otherwise take her to > a good > herbalist and let them treat the patterns as they > are presenting > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 For starters he could do better on folic acid, magnesium and CoQ10. Bananas and yogurt for calcium and potassium..20 minute baths with Epsom Salts will allow magnesium to get into his system through the skin. He should not be on a salt free diet either. He needs some salt. Of course no excessive salt consumption. Salmon and salmon oil caps are beneficial. Dark green leafy vegetables contain folic acid also. (Epsom salts are magnesium not salt ) It is needed allow to muscles to expand and contract smoothly. The heart is a muscle.that expands and contracts. Also an herb that helps is milk thistle seed which can be taken in capsules, tinctures or just seed sprinkled on food. Hope this advice will help. Peace, thyme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 I have a friend in Florida who is in his early sixties and is having problems with irregular heartbeats. Sometimes it beats really fast. He refuses to go to the doctor and he will not get a computer. Can any of you tell me what he should be taking? Thank you for your help. Margi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Well, he does need to see a doctor. This can be life threatening. Some things he can do that may help is to be sure he gets enough magnesium in his diet. Magnesium helps regulate our heart beat. The typical American diet today does not give you enough so he probably needs to take supplements. 350mg a day will help. He also needs calcium & other minerals as they all seem to work together. Too little or too much potassium can also cause problems. CQ10 gives the heart more energy. Offer to take him to see a doctor. My mother had this problem & for a while she had to take some pills. Tell him it may be that simple. If it is worse, a pacemaker will help. Tell him that not knowing is worse that finding out what is wrong, even if it is serious. All that stress & worry about it will not help. J , Margi Crook <Margi wrote: > > I have a friend in Florida who is in his early sixties and is having > problems with irregular heartbeats. Sometimes it beats really fast. > He refuses to go to the doctor and he will not get a computer. > Can any of you tell me what he should be taking? > Thank you for your help. > Margi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Margi wrote: I have a friend in Florida who is in his early sixties and is having problems with irregular heartbeats. Sometimes it beats really fast. He refuses to go to the doctor and he will not get a computer. Can any of you tell me what he should be taking? Thank you for your help. Margi Margi, Why does your friend refuse to see a doctor? If he is afraid of being prescribed drugs, he can always refuse them. (It is his body, what a concept) But he needs to see a doctor for a diagnosis, and THEN we can all figure out what the best diet and supplements might be. I think someone mentioned magnesium. It has no side effects, it is cheap and calming. Good idea. Vitamin E, ditto. Also: According to Traditional the liver is the father of the heart. It never hurts to be nice to your liver. Drink some Dandelion tea, some MILD liver support like Maria Treben's Sweden Bitters, stuff like that. NO heroic cleanses that might be a strain. Be gentle. But otherwise, let's be cautious. We don't want to practice medicine without a licence. Ien in the Kootenays http://freegreenliving.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Thanks for the advice. I live in Alabama and there is no way I can get there to make him go to the doctor. I will call him and tell him. He is a telephone friend like people on this list are internet friends. Margi okedoke89 wrote: > Well, he does need to see a doctor. This can be life threatening. > > Some things he can do that may help is to be sure he gets > enough magnesium in his diet. Magnesium helps regulate our > heart beat. The typical American diet today does not give > you enough so he probably needs to take supplements. > 350mg a day will help. He also needs calcium & other > minerals as they all seem to work together. Too little > or too much potassium can also cause problems. > CQ10 gives the heart more energy. > > Offer to take him to see a doctor. My mother had this > problem & for a while she had to take some pills. Tell > him it may be that simple. If it is worse, a pacemaker > will help. Tell him that not knowing is worse that finding > out what is wrong, even if it is serious. All that stress > & worry about it will not help. > J > > > <%40>, Margi Crook <Margi > wrote: > > > > I have a friend in Florida who is in his early sixties and is having > > problems with irregular heartbeats. Sometimes it beats really fast. > > He refuses to go to the doctor and he will not get a computer. > > Can any of you tell me what he should be taking? > > Thank you for your help. > > Margi > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Take a glass of lime juic and simply relax at bed . If he sleeps well that is good. Avoid alcohol ,coffee etc. crdialogists can prscribe some medicines which will certinly help. no ned to woory. vidhyasagar --- Margi Crook <Margi wrote: > I have a friend in Florida who is in his early > sixties and is having > problems with irregular heartbeats. Sometimes it > beats really fast. > He refuses to go to the doctor and he will not get > a computer. > Can any of you tell me what he should be taking? > Thank you for your help. > Margi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 That made me think of MAGNESIUM. I started finding out about magnesium after I developed asthma symptoms, and the magnesium was just about miraculous in helping me breathe. They say that most Americans (at least) are pretty severely deficient in magnesium (from our severely depleted food), and that our bodies need lots and lots of magnesium for all kinds of proper function, including regulating heartbeat. There is lots of information on the internet. Joy , Margi Crook <Margi wrote: > > I have a friend in Florida who is in his early sixties and is having > problems with irregular heartbeats. Sometimes it beats really fast. > He refuses to go to the doctor and he will not get a computer. > Can any of you tell me what he should be taking? > Thank you for your help. > Margi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 I tell you what made my heart beat better. So much so, I would never want to be without it...especially in florida...My heart would spto for a sec or skip a beat, and then beat back with an extra force...taking some selenium stops it right away, and makes all better...usually take with vit e. And deficiency of selenium does cause certain athletes to drop dead of heat attack...when all that was needed is a tiny amount of selenium. It's really the only thing I needed before leaf. It's very unsettling when you feeel your heart screwing up...probably due to me pushing up my heatrate in those aerobics claases years ago...and definately cut out drinking of much carbonated sodas. Coffee doesn't seem to affect thouigh.Selenium good for smoking and air pollution too...very important. No selenium in soil in fla, unlike somewhere like colorado... Just my experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Tell your friend to do deep breathing (Pranayama) for 30 minutes morning and evening. He will find changes. Our heart has four parts. Upper left, lower left, upper right and loer right. the left side pumps pure blood to the heart and body. 60% od the blood is required to keep the heart working. 40% goes to the body. The impure blood comes to the right side and then to the lungs for purification. The purified blood goes again to the left side for further circulation. If there is any choke up in the route, the heart has to work overtime. At that time the heart beating may increase. Heart beating may also increase if your friend is tensed up. Deep breathing should solve your friend's problem. In ayurveda, there is a capsule known as Rudved. If available locally, he can take one capsule in the motning 30 minutes before food, on empty stomach. --- Ieneke van Houten <ienvan wrote: > Margi wrote: > > I have a friend in Florida who is in his early > sixties and is having > problems with irregular heartbeats. Sometimes it > beats really fast. > He refuses to go to the doctor and he will not get a > computer. > Can any of you tell me what he should be taking? > Thank you for your help. > Margi > > Margi, > > Why does your friend refuse to see a doctor? > If he is afraid of being prescribed drugs, he can > always refuse them. (It is his body, what a concept) > > But he needs to see a doctor for a diagnosis, > and THEN we can all figure out what the > best diet and supplements might be. > I think someone mentioned magnesium. > It has no side effects, it is cheap and calming. > Good idea. Vitamin E, ditto. > > Also: > According to Traditional > the liver is the father of the heart. > It never hurts to be nice to your liver. > Drink some Dandelion tea, some MILD > liver support like Maria Treben's Sweden > Bitters, stuff like that. NO heroic cleanses > that might be a strain. Be gentle. > > But otherwise, let's be cautious. > We don't want to practice medicine without > a licence. > > Ien in the Kootenays > http://freegreenliving.com > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger./download.php Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger./download.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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