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After 1 year of using the stuff I still haven't had problems with it. I also recall drinking it (far more diluted) when working outdoors at construction sites. The Boss would bring 5 gallon buckets of this stuff with orange wedges cut and put into it. We had this for 2-3 years and no one ever had problems with their teeth that I ever noticed, we had more energy throughout the day though. So... if you cannot drink it easily as is try putting the spoonful in hot water and mixing it up until diluted fully and drink that way.

 

Zeb

 

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Carole Eddington

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Thursday, March 31, 2005 3:35 AM

Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

Dear All,

 

I've been taking Doc's Panther Piss formula, and I've been bugged by something I heard years ago. My mom used to tell me to be very careful when taking black strap molasses and to make sure I always brushed my teeth after consuming it, because the tremendous amount of iron in it could rot your teeth or something. I don't remember where she got that data -- possibly Adele Davis. Does anyone know about this?

 

CaroleFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Hi Carole,

 

You do want to make sure that you take 400 IU of Vitamin E for every tablespoon of Panther Piss due to the large amount of iron in the molasses. Too much iron can be a bad thing. I found a web site which seems very good at explaining this: http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=19990303140150.

 

Best,

Kelli

 

 

 

Carole Eddington [caroleeddington] Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:35 AMherbal_remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

Dear All,

 

I've been taking Doc's Panther Piss formula, and I've been bugged by something I heard years ago. My mom used to tell me to be very careful when taking black strap molasses and to make sure I always brushed my teeth after consuming it, because the tremendous amount of iron in it could rot your teeth or something.

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Well, Zeb, the thing is, since I started

taking it, I now have two sensitive teeth, where I thought my fillings might

have worn away a bit – or maybe I have new holes. And I just talked to

Doc recently, and he has similar tooth problems. We’re both trying to

solve them with the Tooth and Gum Formula rather than have the dentist fill

them, but I’m wondering if the black strap molasses is causing the

problems. I’d like to know what Doc has to say about this.

 

I just found the following on a website

from Virginia State University:

“Thus, black strap molasses

is a fairly good source of iron. Excessive amounts could result in tooth decay.”

 

Let me know what Doc says about this,

please.

 

ML,

Carole

 

 

 

 

 

Office Manager

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Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:32 AM

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Re: Herbal Remedies -

black strap molasses

 

 

 

After 1 year of using the stuff I still haven't had problems

with it. I also recall drinking it (far more diluted) when working

outdoors at construction sites. The Boss would bring 5 gallon buckets of

this stuff with orange wedges cut and put into it. We had this for 2-3

years and no one ever had problems with their teeth that I ever noticed, we had

more energy throughout the day though. So... if you cannot drink it

easily as is try putting the spoonful in hot water and mixing it up until

diluted fully and drink that way.

 

 

 

 

 

Zeb

 

 

 

-

 

 

Carole Eddington

 

 

herbal_remedies

 

 

Thursday, March 31, 2005 3:35 AM

 

 

Herbal Remedies -

black strap molasses

 

 

 

 

 

Dear All,

 

 

 

 

 

I've been taking Doc's Panther Piss formula, and I've been bugged by

something I heard years ago. My mom used to tell me to be very careful

when taking black strap molasses and to make sure I always brushed my teeth

after consuming it, because the tremendous amount of iron in it could rot your

teeth or something. I don't remember where she got that data -- possibly Adele Davis.

Does anyone know about this?

 

 

 

 

 

Carole

 

 

 

Federal

Law requires that we warn you of the following:

1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician

before using any natural remedy.

3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be

your own physician and to

prescribe for your own health.

We are not medical doctors although MDs are

welcome to post here as long as

they behave themselves.

Any opinions put forth by the list members are

exactly that, and any person

following the advice of anyone posting here does

so at their own risk.

It is up to you to educate yourself. By

accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to

be fully responsible for your own health, and hold

the List Owner and members free of any liability.

 

Dr. Ian Shillington

Doctor of Naturopathy

Dr.IanShillington

 

 

 

 

 

Federal Law

requires that we warn you of the following:

1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician

before using any natural remedy.

3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be

your own physician and to

prescribe for your own health.

We are not medical doctors although MDs are

welcome to post here as long as

they behave themselves.

Any opinions put forth by the list members are

exactly that, and any person

following the advice of anyone posting here does

so at their own risk.

It is up to you to educate yourself. By

accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to

be fully responsible for your own health, and hold

the List Owner and members free of any liability.

 

Dr. Ian Shillington

Doctor of Naturopathy

Dr.IanShillington

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Thanks! But now wait, I vaguely

remember something from years ago about making sure you don’t consume

vitamin E at the same time as an iron supplement. Ever hear of that?

 

Carole

 

 

 

 

 

Kelli Bever

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Thursday, March 31, 2005 4:52 PM

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RE: Herbal Remedies -

black strap molasses

 

 

Hi Carole,

 

You do want to make sure that you take

400 IU of Vitamin E for every tablespoon of Panther Piss due to the large

amount of iron in the molasses. Too much iron can be a bad thing. I found a web

site which seems very good at explaining this: http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=19990303140150.

 

Best,

Kelli

 

 

 

 

 

Carole Eddington

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Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:35 AM

To:

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Herbal Remedies - black

strap molasses

 

Dear All,

 

 

 

 

 

I've been taking Doc's Panther Piss formula, and I've been bugged by

something I heard years ago. My mom used to tell me to be very careful

when taking black strap molasses and to make sure I always brushed my teeth

after consuming it, because the tremendous amount of iron in it could rot your

teeth or something.

 

 

 

 

Federal

Law requires that we warn you of the following:

1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician

before using any natural remedy.

3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be

your own physician and to

prescribe for your own health.

We are not medical doctors although MDs are

welcome to post here as long as

they behave themselves.

Any opinions put forth by the list members are

exactly that, and any person

following the advice of anyone posting here does

so at their own risk.

It is up to you to educate yourself. By

accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to

be fully responsible for your own health, and hold

the List Owner and members free of any liability.

 

Dr. Ian Shillington

Doctor of Naturopathy

Dr.IanShillington

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Hi Carole,

I normally take my PP in the morning, and the Vit E at night - that makes sure I don't take it together :-)

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Lisa

 

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Carole Eddington

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Friday, April 01, 2005 2:10 AM

RE: Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

 

Thanks! But now wait, I vaguely remember something from years ago about making sure you don’t consume vitamin E at the same time as an iron supplement. Ever hear of that?

 

Carole

 

 

 

 

 

Kelli Bever [kelli] Thursday, March 31, 2005 4:52 PMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

Hi Carole,

 

You do want to make sure that you take 400 IU of Vitamin E for every tablespoon of Panther Piss due to the large amount of iron in the molasses. Too much iron can be a bad thing. I found a web site which seems very good at explaining this: http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=19990303140150.

 

Best,

Kelli

 

 

 

 

 

Carole Eddington [caroleeddington] Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:35 AMherbal_remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

Dear All,

 

 

 

I've been taking Doc's Panther Piss formula, and I've been bugged by something I heard years ago. My mom used to tell me to be very careful when taking black strap molasses and to make sure I always brushed my teeth after consuming it, because the tremendous amount of iron in it could rot your teeth or something.

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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I usually stumble into the kitchen first thing in the morning and

take my PP in 3-4 ounces of water. I want at least 15-20 minutes

between this and my morning Total Nutrition smoothie. I usually

take the PP before I brush my teeth. This sounds like a simple

solution as they say you should always brush after consuming sweets

of any kind.

 

 

herbal remedies , " Carole Eddington "

<caroleeddington@a...> wrote:

> Well, Zeb, the thing is, since I started taking it, I now have two

sensitive

> teeth, where I thought my fillings might have worn away a bit - or

maybe I

> have new holes. And I just talked to Doc recently, and he has

similar tooth

> problems. We're both trying to solve them with the Tooth and Gum

Formula

> rather than have the dentist fill them, but I'm wondering if the

black strap

> molasses is causing the problems. I'd like to know what Doc has

to say

> about this.

>

>

>

> I just found the following on a website from Virginia State

University:

> " Thus, black strap molasses is a fairly good source of iron.

Excessive

> amounts could result in tooth decay. "

>

>

>

> Let me know what Doc says about this, please.

>

>

>

> ML,

>

> Carole

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Office Manager [office@a...]

> Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:32 AM

> herbal remedies

> Re: Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

>

>

>

> After 1 year of using the stuff I still haven't had problems with

it. I

> also recall drinking it (far more diluted) when working outdoors at

> construction sites. The Boss would bring 5 gallon buckets of this

stuff

> with orange wedges cut and put into it. We had this for 2-3 years

and no

> one ever had problems with their teeth that I ever noticed, we had

more

> energy throughout the day though. So... if you cannot drink it

easily as

> is try putting the spoonful in hot water and mixing it up until

diluted

> fully and drink that way.

>

>

>

> Zeb

>

> -

>

> Carole Eddington <caroleeddington@a...>

>

> herbal_remedies

>

> Thursday, March 31, 2005 3:35 AM

>

> Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

>

>

>

> Dear All,

>

>

>

> I've been taking Doc's Panther Piss formula, and I've been bugged

by

> something I heard years ago. My mom used to tell me to be very

careful when

> taking black strap molasses and to make sure I always brushed my

teeth after

> consuming it, because the tremendous amount of iron in it could

rot your

> teeth or something. I don't remember where she got that data --

possibly

> Adele Davis. Does anyone know about this?

>

>

>

> Carole

>

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

natural

> remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own

physician and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here

as long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and

any person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own

risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or

products from

> list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner

and

> members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington@G...

>

>

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

natural

> remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own

physician and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here

as long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and

any person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own

risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or

products from

> list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner

and

> members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington@G...

 

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Hmmm, no I haven't seen that in the reading I've done, but I wouldn't call my research exhaustive either. Let me know if you have a reference on that.

 

Thanks!

Kelli

 

 

 

Carole Eddington [caroleeddington] Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:10 PMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

 

Thanks! But now wait, I vaguely remember something from years ago about making sure you don’t consume vitamin E at the same time as an iron supplement. Ever hear of that?

 

Carole

 

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herbal remedies , " Carole Eddington "

<caroleeddington@a...> wrote:

> Thanks! But now wait, I vaguely remember something from years ago

about

> making sure you don't consume vitamin E at the same time as an iron

> supplement. Ever hear of that?

>

 

I actually have anaemia, and have been taking the P/P to try and

correct this, in the hope of avoiding having to have iron injections,

as I cannot digest iron tablets. Anyway, I was told not to take

Vitamin E with iron, as it hinders the absorption of it. Obviously,

if you didn't need or want the extra iron, the vitamin E would be

beneficial.

I do feel it is doing me some good already!

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I found the following online about iron and

vitamin E (google search: vitamin E iron same).

Do

not take iron and vitamin E at same time. If iron is indicated, separate the

doses by about nine hours.

But I must make a disclaimer. I don’t

know anything about the website where I found this quote. One interesting

thing however was something that was quoted on the home page:

" If

we doctors threw all our medicines into the sea, it would be that much better

for our patients and that much worse for the fishes. " Oliver Wendell

Holmes, M.D.

It would seem that Lisa’s practice

of taking pp in the morning and vitamin E in the evening would be a good one.

I have heard that plant based iron is much easier for our bodies to assimilate

than an iron supplement. So I’m wondering if not taking iron and

vitamin E together is referring to all iron rich foods, or if it means not

taking a vitamin E pill and an iron supplement pill at the same time.

 

 

The other Kelli

 

 

 

 

 

Kelli Bever

[kelli]

Friday, April 01, 2005 11:10

AM

To:

herbal remedies

RE: Herbal Remedies -

black strap molasses

 

 

Hmmm, no I haven't seen that in the

reading I've done, but I wouldn't call my research exhaustive either. Let me

know if you have a reference on that.

 

Thanks!

Kelli

 

 

 

 

 

Carole

Eddington [caroleeddington]

Thursday, March 31, 2005

5:10 PM

To:

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RE: Herbal Remedies -

black strap molasses

Thanks! But now wait, I vaguely

remember something from years ago about making sure you don’t consume

vitamin E at the same time as an iron supplement. Ever hear of that?

 

Carole

 

 

 

 

Federal

Law requires that we warn you of the following:

1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician

before using any natural remedy.

3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be

your own physician and to

prescribe for your own health.

We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome

to post here as long as

they behave themselves.

Any opinions put forth by the list members are

exactly that, and any person

following the advice of anyone posting here does

so at their own risk.

It is up to you to educate yourself. By

accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to

be fully responsible for your own health, and hold

the List Owner and members free of any liability.

 

Dr. Ian Shillington

Doctor of Naturopathy

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Dear Carole,

 

I'm hearing you love. I used to have pains in my teeth. I think it was after the 2nd cleanse I did. I realized what it was after a few months of worrying and seeing the dentist. It was the feeling coming back into my teeth. I also remembered the first time I had felt the weird feeling in my tooth. It was after I'd had tons of sugar and it started to ache. After cleansing I now have that same feeling no matter how little sugar is consumed, unless raw, organic and from a real food! So... I understand the data below but I do not get that feeling in my teeth after Panther Piss. I've sent it on to Doc but I can almost guarantee that it's not the panther piss doing damage.

 

Sincerely,

 

Zeb Sims

Office Manager

 

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Carole Eddington

herbal remedies

Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:02 PM

RE: Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

 

Well, Zeb, the thing is, since I started taking it, I now have two sensitive teeth, where I thought my fillings might have worn away a bit – or maybe I have new holes. And I just talked to Doc recently, and he has similar tooth problems. We’re both trying to solve them with the Tooth and Gum Formula rather than have the dentist fill them, but I’m wondering if the black strap molasses is causing the problems. I’d like to know what Doc has to say about this.

 

I just found the following on a website from Virginia State University: “Thus, black strap molasses is a fairly good source of iron. Excessive amounts could result in tooth decay.”

 

Let me know what Doc says about this, please.

 

ML,

Carole

 

 

 

 

 

Office Manager [office] Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:32 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

 

After 1 year of using the stuff I still haven't had problems with it. I also recall drinking it (far more diluted) when working outdoors at construction sites. The Boss would bring 5 gallon buckets of this stuff with orange wedges cut and put into it. We had this for 2-3 years and no one ever had problems with their teeth that I ever noticed, we had more energy throughout the day though. So... if you cannot drink it easily as is try putting the spoonful in hot water and mixing it up until diluted fully and drink that way.

 

 

 

Zeb

 

 

-

 

Carole Eddington

 

herbal_remedies

 

Thursday, March 31, 2005 3:35 AM

 

Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

 

 

Dear All,

 

 

 

I've been taking Doc's Panther Piss formula, and I've been bugged by something I heard years ago. My mom used to tell me to be very careful when taking black strap molasses and to make sure I always brushed my teeth after consuming it, because the tremendous amount of iron in it could rot your teeth or something. I don't remember where she got that data -- possibly Adele Davis. Does anyone know about this?

 

 

 

Carole

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Well, it's Doc who told me to take the PP AND the Vit E - not necessarily at the same time, but on the same day. PP has the effect on the body of usurping all the Vit E, and so it needs replenishing daily. I trust Doc, and so I follow his directions when he advises me :-) It always seemed logical to me not to take it together, as PP has that effect on VitE, so I normally space it apart as mentioned. I also was advised many, many years ago, when I was into taking lots of vitamins instead of things like TN, that it's never advised to take the solid vitamins with the oil vitamins, that the oil vitamins needed to be taken separately at a different time. I forget now why. But so I've always taken oil vitamins (such as E) separately anyhow.

 

love

Lisa

 

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Kelli

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Friday, April 01, 2005 9:06 PM

RE: Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

 

I found the following online about iron and vitamin E (google search: vitamin E iron same).

Do not take iron and vitamin E at same time. If iron is indicated, separate the doses by about nine hours.

But I must make a disclaimer. I don’t know anything about the website where I found this quote. One interesting thing however was something that was quoted on the home page:

"If we doctors threw all our medicines into the sea, it would be that much better for our patients and that much worse for the fishes." Oliver Wendell Holmes, M.D.

It would seem that Lisa’s practice of taking pp in the morning and vitamin E in the evening would be a good one. I have heard that plant based iron is much easier for our bodies to assimilate than an iron supplement. So I’m wondering if not taking iron and vitamin E together is referring to all iron rich foods, or if it means not taking a vitamin E pill and an iron supplement pill at the same time.

 

 

The other Kelli

 

 

 

 

Kelli Bever [kelli] Friday, April 01, 2005 11:10 AMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

Hmmm, no I haven't seen that in the reading I've done, but I wouldn't call my research exhaustive either. Let me know if you have a reference on that.

 

Thanks!

Kelli

 

 

 

 

 

Carole Eddington [caroleeddington] Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:10 PMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

Thanks! But now wait, I vaguely remember something from years ago about making sure you don’t consume vitamin E at the same time as an iron supplement. Ever hear of that?

 

Carole

 

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Hi "other Kelli" :)

 

That does sound like a good practice - I usually take my PP in the morning and my Vit E with dinner, so it sounds like I may be doing something good by accident! ;)

 

Best,

Kelli

 

 

 

Kelli [kelli] Friday, April 01, 2005 12:06 PMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

 

I found the following online about iron and vitamin E (google search: vitamin E iron same).

Do not take iron and vitamin E at same time. If iron is indicated, separate the doses by about nine hours.

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Lisa,

 

That is really interesting. I

wonder why that is. So since you take your E in the evening and pp in the

morning, do you only take one dose of pp a day? I thought I read in the

files that the maintenance dose was 2 T twice a day. But maybe it was

only once a day. I’ll have to check again now. J Is

it okay that I put pp in my TN drink? I notice that when I remember to do

this my fingernails are much stronger. Ohhhhhh, another question- do you

give pp to your son? At the 150 dosing rule?

 

 

the other Kelli

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lisa de Haas

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I also was advised many, many years ago, when I was into

taking lots of vitamins instead of things like TN, that it's never advised to

take the solid vitamins with the oil vitamins, that the oil vitamins needed to

be taken separately at a different time. I forget now why. But so I've always

taken oil vitamins (such as E) separately anyhow.

 

 

 

 

 

love

 

 

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Well that’s a bonus!! I love

it when things work out like that.

 

How’s your cleanse going? I’m

*still* gathering my supplies,

cleaning up my overall diet, taking TN every day and started regular exercise.

You’re an inspiration. J

 

 

The other Kelli

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi " other Kelli " :)

 

That does sound like a good practice - I

usually take my PP in the morning and my Vit E with dinner, so it sounds like I

may be doing something good by accident! ;)

 

Best,

Kelli

 

 

 

 

 

Kelli

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I found the following online about iron and

vitamin E (google search: vitamin E iron same).

Do

not take iron and vitamin E at same time. If iron is indicated, separate the

doses by about nine hours.

 

 

 

Federal

Law requires that we warn you of the following:

1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician

before using any natural remedy.

3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be

your own physician and to

prescribe for your own health.

We are not medical doctors although MDs are

welcome to post here as long as

they behave themselves.

Any opinions put forth by the list members are

exactly that, and any person

following the advice of anyone posting here does

so at their own risk.

It is up to you to educate yourself. By

accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to

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My dh and his siblings were giving a tablespoon of cod liver oil every week their whole childhood. My SIL has very dark gums. She asked the dentist once what would make her gums dark like that and he told her that it's usually caused by having too much iron as a child. She told him about the cod liver oil and he told her that's probably what caused it then. My husband has had a terrible time with his teeth and finally had them pulled and now has dentures. He was 40 when they pulled the rest of them. I know this doesn't have anything to do with black strap molasses, but the talk about iron is what prompted my response. I'm just learning about all the herbs. So I hope you don't mind my jumping in here.

 

Missy

----

 

 

Carole Eddington

04/01/05 02:48:26

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RE: Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

 

Well, Zeb, the thing is, since I started taking it, I now have two sensitive teeth, where I thought my fillings might have worn away a bit – or maybe I have new holes. And I just talked to Doc recently, and he has similar tooth problems. We’re both trying to solve them with the Tooth and Gum Formula rather than have the dentist fill them, but I’m wondering if the black strap molasses is causing the problems. I’d like to know what Doc has to say about this.

 

I just found the following on a website from Virginia State University: “Thus, black strap molasses is a fairly good source of iron. Excessive amounts could result in tooth decay.”

 

Let me know what Doc says about this, please.

 

ML,

Carole

 

 

 

 

 

Office Manager [office] Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:32 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

 

After 1 year of using the stuff I still haven't had problems with it. I also recall drinking it (far more diluted) when working outdoors at construction sites. The Boss would bring 5 gallon buckets of this stuff with orange wedges cut and put into it. We had this for 2-3 years and no one ever had problems with their teeth that I ever noticed, we had more energy throughout the day though. So... if you cannot drink it easily as is try putting the spoonful in hot water and mixing it up until diluted fully and drink that way.

 

 

 

Zeb

 

 

-

 

Carole Eddington

 

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Thursday, March 31, 2005 3:35 AM

 

Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

 

 

Dear All,

 

 

 

I've been taking Doc's Panther Piss formula, and I've been bugged by something I heard years ago. My mom used to tell me to be very careful when taking black strap molasses and to make sure I always brushed my teeth after consuming it, because the tremendous amount of iron in it could rot your teeth or something. I don't remember where she got that data -- possibly Adele Davis. Does anyone know about this?

 

 

 

Carole

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

 

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Hi other Kelli,

 

No, I take 2 tbs of PP in the morning. I had the same Q as you and so talked to Doc about it. He takes his PP 2 tbs in the morning in his TN drink. I don't put it in my drink, but he did say it was fine to take the 2 tbs together in the morning. I tried giving PP to my son but he's still refusing! I'll keep trying LOL. But yes, that would follow the 150 rule also :-) And of course also give the vitE also.

love

Lisa

 

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Lisa,

 

That is really interesting. I wonder why that is. So since you take your E in the evening and pp in the morning, do you only take one dose of pp a day? I thought I read in the files that the maintenance dose was 2 T twice a day. But maybe it was only once a day. I’ll have to check again now. J Is it okay that I put pp in my TN drink? I notice that when I remember to do this my fingernails are much stronger. Ohhhhhh, another question- do you give pp to your son? At the 150 dosing rule?

 

 

the other Kelli

 

 

 

 

 

Lisa de Haas [lisa] Friday, April 01, 2005 2:15 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

 

I also was advised many, many years ago, when I was into taking lots of vitamins instead of things like TN, that it's never advised to take the solid vitamins with the oil vitamins, that the oil vitamins needed to be taken separately at a different time. I forget now why. But so I've always taken oil vitamins (such as E) separately anyhow.

 

 

 

love

 

Lisa Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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what is the 150 dosing rule????

 

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Hi other Kelli,

 

No, I take 2 tbs of PP in the morning. I had the same Q as you and so talked to Doc about it. He takes his PP 2 tbs in the morning in his TN drink. I don't put it in my drink, but he did say it was fine to take the 2 tbs together in the morning. I tried giving PP to my son but he's still refusing! I'll keep trying LOL. But yes, that would follow the 150 rule also :-) And of course also give the vitE also.

love

Lisa

 

-

Kelli

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RE: Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

 

Lisa,

 

That is really interesting. I wonder why that is. So since you take your E in the evening and pp in the morning, do you only take one dose of pp a day? I thought I read in the files that the maintenance dose was 2 T twice a day. But maybe it was only once a day. I’ll have to check again now. J Is it okay that I put pp in my TN drink? I notice that when I remember to do this my fingernails are much stronger. Ohhhhhh, another question- do you give pp to your son? At the 150 dosing rule?

 

 

the other Kelli

 

 

 

 

 

Lisa de Haas [lisa] Friday, April 01, 2005 2:15 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

 

I also was advised many, many years ago, when I was into taking lots of vitamins instead of things like TN, that it's never advised to take the solid vitamins with the oil vitamins, that the oil vitamins needed to be taken separately at a different time. I forget now why. But so I've always taken oil vitamins (such as E) separately anyhow.

 

 

 

love

 

Lisa Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Check out the files in our website; Doc posted an article there about this :-)

love

Lisa

 

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Dear Carole,

In my books, this is one of those areas where, "What turns it on, will turn it off".

And even though there may be a sensitivity with the holes that are already there, no new holes will show up. As a matter of fact, I'm willing to bet that the holes that are there will start closing up on their own. I had an old filling fall out (that problem I was telling you about over the phone), over a year ago, and I've done nothing to it from a dentist viewpoint. All I've done is continue taking the Panther Piss every day with my Dragon Snot = The Shrek Shake and brushing my teeth a couple of times a week with the Tooth & Gum Formula. I've been doing this for a year on a tooth that has a humongous hole in it and as far as I'm concerned there has been no worsening. After the initial sensitivity to the PP wore off, it seems to be fairly normal as long as I keep any excess food and stuff out of the hole. I do keep it clean.

Sometime within the next two months I'll be visiting my favorite Dentist who has decided to monitor this with me. We'll see what he has to say about it once he's had a chance to check it over.

My goal, of course, is to regrow the tooth. ;-)

Love,

Doc

PS. I don't believe the statement below from the Virginia State U. and what exactly is an "excessive amount"?????

PPS. As Voltaire once said, "If you would argue with me, you must define your terms". LOL

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-447-5282Doc

 

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Carole Eddington

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Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:02 PM

RE: Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

 

Well, Zeb, the thing is, since I started taking it, I now have two sensitive teeth, where I thought my fillings might have worn away a bit – or maybe I have new holes. And I just talked to Doc recently, and he has similar tooth problems. We’re both trying to solve them with the Tooth and Gum Formula rather than have the dentist fill them, but I’m wondering if the black strap molasses is causing the problems. I’d like to know what Doc has to say about this.

 

I just found the following on a website from Virginia State University: “Thus, black strap molasses is a fairly good source of iron. Excessive amounts could result in tooth decay.”

 

Let me know what Doc says about this, please.

 

ML,

Carole

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Dear Carole,

It is best to take your Vitamin E at least a half an hour after your PP. Lisa has this one down. :-)

Also, remember that the Iron in PP is "ORGANIC"!!! It is assimilated very quickly so you won't have the problems you'd get if you were taking conventional Iron supplements which are next to impossible to assimilate while screwing around with other vitamins and minerals intake.

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-447-5282Doc

 

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RE: Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

 

Thanks! But now wait, I vaguely remember something from years ago about making sure you don’t consume vitamin E at the same time as an iron supplement. Ever hear of that?

 

Carole

 

 

 

 

 

Kelli Bever [kelli] Thursday, March 31, 2005 4:52 PMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

Hi Carole,

 

You do want to make sure that you take 400 IU of Vitamin E for every tablespoon of Panther Piss due to the large amount of iron in the molasses. Too much iron can be a bad thing. I found a web site which seems very good at explaining this: http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=19990303140150.

 

Best,

Kelli

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear All,

 

 

 

I've been taking Doc's Panther Piss formula, and I've been bugged by something I heard years ago. My mom used to tell me to be very careful when taking black strap molasses and to make sure I always brushed my teeth after consuming it, because the tremendous amount of iron in it could rot your teeth or something.

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Heya Missy,

 

I don't think that was the iron. It was probably something else. There is a small cute trick you can use whenever learning whether something was the correct thing that was wrong or right. See if you hit the button on the head it would give you a way to solve it. Notice the Doctor said it's probably it. Probably is not good enough. Cod Liver oil is very good for the body. Extremely good.

 

Another view, when is the last time a doctor "cured" anything other than setting a bone? Exactly, they do not cure, they kill. Whether its cancer, organs etc. The either kill it or cut it out. That is not a "cure". On the other hand I get to see cures everyday and probably because of that have an assurance that seems otherwise very hard to come by. Anyway....

 

Zeb

 

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Friday, April 01, 2005 10:24 PM

RE: Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

 

 

 

 

My dh and his siblings were giving a tablespoon of cod liver oil every week their whole childhood. My SIL has very dark gums. She asked the dentist once what would make her gums dark like that and he told her that it's usually caused by having too much iron as a child. She told him about the cod liver oil and he told her that's probably what caused it then. My husband has had a terrible time with his teeth and finally had them pulled and now has dentures. He was 40 when they pulled the rest of them. I know this doesn't have anything to do with black strap molasses, but the talk about iron is what prompted my response. I'm just learning about all the herbs. So I hope you don't mind my jumping in here.

 

Missy

----

 

 

Carole Eddington

04/01/05 02:48:26

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RE: Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

 

Well, Zeb, the thing is, since I started taking it, I now have two sensitive teeth, where I thought my fillings might have worn away a bit – or maybe I have new holes. And I just talked to Doc recently, and he has similar tooth problems. We’re both trying to solve them with the Tooth and Gum Formula rather than have the dentist fill them, but I’m wondering if the black strap molasses is causing the problems. I’d like to know what Doc has to say about this.

 

I just found the following on a website from Virginia State University: “Thus, black strap molasses is a fairly good source of iron. Excessive amounts could result in tooth decay.”

 

Let me know what Doc says about this, please.

 

ML,

Carole

 

 

 

 

 

Office Manager [office] Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:32 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

 

After 1 year of using the stuff I still haven't had problems with it. I also recall drinking it (far more diluted) when working outdoors at construction sites. The Boss would bring 5 gallon buckets of this stuff with orange wedges cut and put into it. We had this for 2-3 years and no one ever had problems with their teeth that I ever noticed, we had more energy throughout the day though. So... if you cannot drink it easily as is try putting the spoonful in hot water and mixing it up until diluted fully and drink that way.

 

 

 

Zeb

 

 

-

 

Carole Eddington

 

herbal_remedies

 

Thursday, March 31, 2005 3:35 AM

 

Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

 

 

Dear All,

 

 

 

I've been taking Doc's Panther Piss formula, and I've been bugged by something I heard years ago. My mom used to tell me to be very careful when taking black strap molasses and to make sure I always brushed my teeth after consuming it, because the tremendous amount of iron in it could rot your teeth or something. I don't remember where she got that data -- possibly Adele Davis. Does anyone know about this?

 

 

 

Carole

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Ok, thanks, Doc. Well, if you’ve all

been taking the PP for so long with no ill effects to your teeth, then I guess

I trust it. And . . . good point about what is “excessive?”

 

Love,

Carole

 

 

 

 

 

Dr. Ian

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Monday, April 04, 2005 10:38 AM

To:

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Re: Herbal Remedies -

black strap molasses

 

 

 

Dear Carole,

 

 

In my books, this is

one of those areas where, " What turns it on, will turn it off " .

 

 

And even though there

may be a sensitivity with the holes that are already there, no new holes will

show up. As a matter of fact, I'm willing to bet that the holes that are

there will start closing up on their own. I had an old filling fall out

(that problem I was telling you about over the phone), over a year ago, and

I've done nothing to it from a dentist viewpoint. All I've done is

continue taking the Panther Piss every day with my Dragon Snot = The Shrek

Shake and brushing my teeth a couple of times a week with the Tooth & Gum

Formula. I've been doing this for a year on a tooth that has a humongous

hole in it and as far as I'm concerned there has been no worsening. After

the initial sensitivity to the PP wore off, it seems to be fairly normal as

long as I keep any excess food and stuff out of the hole. I do keep it

clean.

 

 

Sometime within the

next two months I'll be visiting my favorite Dentist who has decided to

monitor this with me. We'll see what he has to say about it once he's had

a chance to check it over.

 

 

My goal, of course,

is to regrow the tooth. ;-)

 

 

Love,

 

 

Doc

 

 

PS. I don't

believe the statement below from the Virginia State

U. and what exactly is an

" excessive amount " ?????

 

 

PPS. As Voltaire once said,

" If you would argue with me, you must define your terms " . LOL

 

 

 

 

 

Ian " Doc " Shillington

N.D.

727-447-5282

Doc

 

 

 

-

 

 

Carole Eddington

 

 

herbal remedies

 

 

Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:02 PM

 

 

RE: Herbal

Remedies - black strap molasses

 

 

 

 

Well, Zeb, the thing is, since I started taking

it, I now have two sensitive teeth, where I thought my fillings might have worn

away a bit – or maybe I have new holes. And I just talked to Doc

recently, and he has similar tooth problems. We’re both trying to

solve them with the Tooth and Gum Formula rather than have the dentist fill

them, but I’m wondering if the black strap molasses is causing the

problems. I’d like to know what Doc has to say about this.

 

I just found the following on a website

from Virginia State University:

“Thus, black strap molasses

is a fairly good source of iron. Excessive amounts could result in tooth decay.”

 

Let me know what Doc says about this,

please.

 

ML,

Carole

 

 

 

Federal

Law requires that we warn you of the following:

1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician

before using any natural remedy.

3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be

your own physician and to

prescribe for your own health.

We are not medical doctors although MDs are

welcome to post here as long as

they behave themselves.

Any opinions put forth by the list members are

exactly that, and any person

following the advice of anyone posting here does

so at their own risk.

It is up to you to educate yourself. By

accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to

be fully responsible for your own health, and hold

the List Owner and members free of any liability.

 

Dr. Ian Shillington

Doctor of Naturopathy

Dr.IanShillington

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Ah, OK, thanks! And is this why Vitamin E

is included in the Total Body Cleanse package, or are there other reasons as

well?

 

ML,

Carole

 

 

 

 

 

Dr. Ian

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Monday, April 04, 2005 10:46 AM

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Dear Carole,

 

 

It is best to take your Vitamin E at least a half an hour after your

PP. Lisa has this one

down. :-)

 

 

Also, remember that the Iron in PP is " ORGANIC " !!! It

is assimilated very quickly so you won't have the problems you'd get if you

were taking conventional Iron supplements which are next to impossible to

assimilate while screwing around with other vitamins and minerals intake.

 

 

Love,

 

 

Doc

 

 

 

 

 

Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

727-447-5282

Doc

 

 

 

-

 

 

Carole Eddington

 

 

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Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:10 PM

 

 

RE: Herbal

Remedies - black strap molasses

 

 

 

 

Thanks! But now wait, I vaguely

remember something from years ago about making sure you don’t consume

vitamin E at the same time as an iron supplement. Ever hear of that?

 

Carole

 

 

 

 

 

Kelli Bever

[kelli]

Thursday, March 31, 2005 4:52 PM

herbal remedies

RE: Herbal Remedies -

black strap molasses

 

 

Hi Carole,

 

You do want to make sure that you take

400 IU of Vitamin E for every tablespoon of Panther Piss due to the large

amount of iron in the molasses. Too much iron can be a bad thing. I found a web

site which seems very good at explaining this: http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=19990303140150.

 

Best,

Kelli

 

 

 

 

 

Carole Eddington

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Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:35 AM

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Herbal Remedies - black

strap molasses

 

Dear All,

 

 

 

 

 

I've been taking Doc's Panther Piss formula, and I've been bugged by

something I heard years ago. My mom used to tell me to be very careful

when taking black strap molasses and to make sure I always brushed my teeth

after consuming it, because the tremendous amount of iron in it could rot your

teeth or something.

 

 

 

 

 

Federal

Law requires that we warn you of the following:

1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician

before using any natural remedy.

3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be

your own physician and to

prescribe for your own health.

We are not medical doctors although MDs are

welcome to post here as long as

they behave themselves.

Any opinions put forth by the list members are

exactly that, and any person

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so at their own risk.

It is up to you to educate yourself. By

accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to

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the List Owner and members free of any liability.

 

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The Vitamin E is there to strengthen the entire cardiovascular system.

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-447-5282Doc

 

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Carole Eddington

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Tuesday, April 05, 2005 6:07 AM

RE: Herbal Remedies - black strap molasses

 

 

Ah, OK, thanks! And is this why Vitamin E is included in the Total Body Cleanse package, or are there other reasons as well?

 

ML,

Carole

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Oh! OK!

 

 

 

 

 

Dr. Ian

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Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:55 AM

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Re: Herbal Remedies -

black strap molasses

 

 

 

The Vitamin E is there to strengthen the entire cardiovascular system.

 

 

Love,

 

 

Doc

 

 

 

 

 

Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

727-447-5282

Doc

 

 

 

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Carole Eddington

 

 

herbal remedies

 

 

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 6:07 AM

 

 

RE: Herbal

Remedies - black strap molasses

 

 

 

 

Ah, OK, thanks! And is this why

Vitamin E is included in the Total Body Cleanse package, or are there other

reasons as well?

 

ML,

Carole

 

 

 

Federal

Law requires that we warn you of the following:

1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician

before using any natural remedy.

3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be

your own physician and to

prescribe for your own health.

We are not medical doctors although MDs are

welcome to post here as long as

they behave themselves.

Any opinions put forth by the list members are

exactly that, and any person

following the advice of anyone posting here does

so at their own risk.

It is up to you to educate yourself. By

accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to

be fully responsible for your own health, and hold

the List Owner and members free of any liability.

 

Dr. Ian Shillington

Doctor of Naturopathy

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