Quitting Smoking - Need help

[Guest guest]

Hello all,

 

I am trying to quit smoking for the xxxxth time and currently using

Nicotine gum to assist me. Can anyone suggest some herbal products to

add to my current plan to ensure more sucess in my attempt.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Jay

[Guest guest]

Hi Jay,

 

I definately know that demon! I have not found any

herbal remedy for such a powerful problem, but I do

want to give you my input on a western medicine that

worked for me. Zyban or generically Bupropion (same

stuff) a quick search on my end brought up this

http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/motm/zyban/zyban.htm

 

Anyway, like that article says nicotine gum and

patches are still just giving you nicotine just in a

different form, this drug does not. It works to trick

your mind into thinking it you are fulfilled and don't

need anything. One who likes an occasional beer or 2,

I also found I wasn't even interested in drinking a

beer. You take this stuff for a month and your cured.

I was!

 

Yes, its not an herbal remedy, but like a Yogi friend

of mine Dada Mitra once told me, garlic and onion are

very very powerful medicines but if you already use

garlic and onions everyday they will not work for you.

My point is that in a perfect herbal remedy world you

wouldn't be smoking to begin with. So, it might be

time to break out the big guns if you really need help

quitting like I did.

 

And don't forget to ALWAYS carry around a tin of

Altoids peppermints with you wherever you go because

you gonna have a nasty dragon in your mouth for a

month or so, hahaha.

 

Good luck Jay, do it, you'll be happy you did!

 

Michael

www.sensatia.com

 

--- jobs_career_work <jobs_career_work

wrote:

 

> Hello all,

>

> I am trying to quit smoking for the xxxxth time and

> currently using

> Nicotine gum to assist me. Can anyone suggest some

> herbal products to

> add to my current plan to ensure more sucess in my

> attempt.

>

> Thanks in advance

>

> Jay

>

>

 

 

 

 

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How about thinking like a person that does not smoke. What do they do

How do they think. Being a non-smoker is the best way I know to

become one in your reality. Associate with non-smokers. Talk about

how good it feels to be a non-smoker. Love your non-smoker-ness.

Thank a higher power for being a non-smoker. As soon as your thoughts

turn toward smoking or not smoking, redirect them to something else that

brings you joy.

 

Then, live it.

 

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[Guest guest]

Hello Jay .. welcome. I applaud you for quitting smoking! One of the greatest

challenges, but also the rewards are tremendous. While I am unaware of any

certain herbs to help you in your quest, I would suggest, if you aren't doing it

already-is to drink at least 9 glasses of pure water every day. This helps flush

the toxins faster from your body and can shorten the length of time you may

experience any cravings. The sooner you can clear your body of the multitude of

toxins from smoking, the sooner you will be over the hump. You may have dreams

about smoking for a time, also-this is your mind preparing for the end of

nicotine addiction. Teas are also good, especially SleepyTyme Tea, for it's

calming effects. Having quit more than five years ago now--(Nicoderm patch)..I

can say I am truly free (of smoking) and it took me several tries, too. If you

stick to it, you'll find yourself passing by that cig isle at the store without

giving them a second thought..it's really a

great feeling!

 

Best of luck,

Susan

NM

 

jobs_career_work <jobs_career_work wrote:

Hello all,

 

I am trying to quit smoking for the xxxxth time and currently using

Nicotine gum to assist me. Can anyone suggest some herbal products to

add to my current plan to ensure more sucess in my attempt.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Jay

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Congrats to Jay and Susan for quitting! i am almost at my 6-month

mark of being 100% cigarette free and it feels great.

 

Like you, Jay, I chewed Nicorette a little. Tea Tree toothpicks

from Whole Foods or health food stores are amazing (and

exponentially cheaper than nicotine alternatives). The tooth picks

have a really strong, natural menthol kick to them, which can really

satisfy that cigarette craving.

 

exercise also promotes quitting - they go hand in hand.

 

welcome to the world of non-smokers!

 

, Susan <powitree

wrote:

>

> Hello Jay .. welcome. I applaud you for quitting smoking! One of

the greatest challenges, but also the rewards are tremendous. While

I am unaware of any certain herbs to help you in your quest, I would

suggest, if you aren't doing it already-is to drink at least 9

glasses of pure water every day. This helps flush the toxins faster

from your body and can shorten the length of time you may experience

any cravings. The sooner you can clear your body of the multitude of

toxins from smoking, the sooner you will be over the hump. You may

have dreams about smoking for a time, also-this is your mind

preparing for the end of nicotine addiction. Teas are also good,

especially SleepyTyme Tea, for it's calming effects. Having quit

more than five years ago now--(Nicoderm patch)..I can say I am truly

free (of smoking) and it took me several tries, too. If you stick to

it, you'll find yourself passing by that cig isle at the store

without giving them a second thought..it's really a

> great feeling!

>

> Best of luck,

> Susan

> NM

>

> jobs_career_work <jobs_career_work wrote:

> Hello all,

>

> I am trying to quit smoking for the xxxxth time and currently using

> Nicotine gum to assist me. Can anyone suggest some herbal products

to

> add to my current plan to ensure more sucess in my attempt.

>

> Thanks in advance

>

> Jay

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>

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Jay,

There is a herb called lobelia which is very similar to nicotine but is not

addictive. If you smoke it your body thinks it is getting nicotine and after a

while you realise you are no longer hooked without too much trauma.When I gave

up smoking I was desperate for something to smoke so I did a lot of research and

tried about 30 herbs.I ended up with 4 cups coltsfoot which is very mild,4 cups

mullein which is slightly honeyish,1cup uva ursi which the native American

Indians use in their traditional smoke kinnick kinnick and 1 cup lobelia.Yerba

santa also smells and tastes yummy but it is quite difficult to get.If you cant

get the herbs just order some kinnick kinnick through e bay. that's how i got

mine although I prefer my own homemade blend.You can also add liqueur essences

like vanilla spice or cherry brandy or port or rum.The vanilla spice and cherry

brandy were my favourites but now I only have a herbal smoke once every couple

of months.

It makes me wonder why I didn't quit 30 years ago.

Good luck and happy smoking.The colts foot and mullein are actually good for

your lungs. If you need any more advise please let me know. there is a wonderful

book on herbal smokes but i cant remember what it is called.

All the best,

Nicole

 

Susan <powitree wrote:

Hello Jay .. welcome. I applaud you for quitting smoking! One of the

greatest challenges, but also the rewards are tremendous. While I am unaware of

any certain herbs to help you in your quest, I would suggest, if you aren't

doing it already-is to drink at least 9 glasses of pure water every day. This

helps flush the toxins faster from your body and can shorten the length of time

you may experience any cravings. The sooner you can clear your body of the

multitude of toxins from smoking, the sooner you will be over the hump. You may

have dreams about smoking for a time, also-this is your mind preparing for the

end of nicotine addiction. Teas are also good, especially SleepyTyme Tea, for

it's calming effects. Having quit more than five years ago now--(Nicoderm

patch)..I can say I am truly free (of smoking) and it took me several tries,

too. If you stick to it, you'll find yourself passing by that cig isle at the

store without giving them a second thought..it's

really a

great feeling!

 

Best of luck,

Susan

NM

 

jobs_career_work <jobs_career_work wrote:

Hello all,

 

I am trying to quit smoking for the xxxxth time and currently using

Nicotine gum to assist me. Can anyone suggest some herbal products to

add to my current plan to ensure more sucess in my attempt.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Jay

 

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[Guest guest]

Question:

<I am trying to quit smoking for the xxxxth time and currently using

Nicotine gum to assist me. Can anyone suggest some herbal products to

add to my current plan to ensure more sucess in my attempt.>

 

Answer:

 

There was a herbal product based on

ordinary plantain, the most common

weed on the planet and a powerful

healer in its own right.

You might try a tea of plantain and maybe

add some mullein, that is soothing to the

lungs as well.

 

I also picked up somewhere that the herb

Ashwaganda is useful for withdrawal.

Perhaps one of our Ayurvedic friends

has hints there?

 

You might also ask yourself what smoking

does for you, and how can you get that

without the tobacco?

 

For instance, I used to use cigarettes to

help me concentrate during astrology readings.

Now I use natural substances that have the

same effect.

 

In friendship

 

Ien in the Kootenays

http://freegreenliving.com

 

 

[Guest guest]

i am 6 months smoke free with acupuncture. I'd tried patches, gum, cutting down

etc... and this has been the only thing that has worked

 

 

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[Guest guest]

---I was a heavy smoker. I quit Instantly with 1 Reiki treatment!

Others might require several treatments. In

, deb horsman <deb3765 wrote:

>

> i am 6 months smoke free with acupuncture. I'd tried patches, gum,

cutting down etc... and this has been the only thing that has worked

>

>

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[Guest guest]

--- Hi,,I was a heavy smoker and quit instantly with one Reiki

session.I was asked what do you want to give up? I laughed and said " I

want to stop smoking " I want you to know I don't believe it's possible.

I was told that I didn't have to believe,,Well I'm a believer.I studied

and am now a Reiki practitioner.Best of luck to you.

, " jobs_career_work "

<jobs_career_work wrote:

>

> Hello all,

>

> I am trying to quit smoking for the xxxxth time and currently using

> Nicotine gum to assist me. Can anyone suggest some herbal products to

> add to my current plan to ensure more sucess in my attempt.

>

> Thanks in advance

>

> Jay

>

[Guest guest]

I was a heavy smoker for 13 years and quit cold turkey about 10 years

ago. It was grueling. I didn't learn to lesson the cravings, but I

shortened the typical 5 days to 3 (max cravings hit on the 2nd day)

with drinking lots of water and exercise. However, I think once a long

time smoker experiences the really intense physical withdrawal it does

something to the brain which can cause a very strong desire for

cigarettes months or even years after. It's not continuous like the

physical withdrawal, but come and go, usually when thinking about

smoking. For me the mental cravings kicked in about 2 months after my

last cigarette and lasted about 17 months. And I've heard that Zyban

doesn't work so well for those who first tried really hard to quit

cold turkey; A friend of mine who smoked for about 15 years and never

tried to quit before, quit effortlessly using Zyban and hasn't craved

a smoke since. All the long time smokers I've know who quit and still

desired it years later, quit cold turkey. I think extremely intense

cravings changes the brain.

 

So I think some method of reducing the cravings should also help to

stay quit.

 

After 16 months (with no cigarettes and still craving them) I did

finally learn how to over come the mental cravings. I realized

everyone who still desired cigarettes even 20 years after they quit

were more or less hanging on and avoiding situations which could

intensify the desire, while those who no longer desired smoking faced

the cravings down. And I read in the booklet that came with

" Cigarrest " that eliminating defeatist thoughts is essential and

facing down the desire during the worst, most intense moment is often

the turning point. So about a couple weeks later, I was in this

situation where people were teasing me about quitting, blowing smoke

in my face and poking cigarettes in my face. It was absolutely awful,

but I used the moment for a mental battle in which I fought off even

the slightest thought of smoking again, and focused only on that.

Amazingly, my desire to smoke decreased dramatically almost

immediately and didn't come back. One minor mental battle a couple

days later and the desire was gone. Fought it for 17 months, then once

I learned how to fight it, it was over in a few days. That was about

10 years ago, zero desire since (unless I think about it really hard).

Although the mental cravings feel very physical, it's overcome inside

your thoughts, by fighting off any and all thoughts of smoking again.

Sounds absurd, but it works.

 

One trick my brother-in-law taught me that works to get past a mental

craving is to " decide " that " I'm not going to smoke right now. I may

smoke later, but not right now. " That keeps you from smoking long

enough for the cravings to disappear. Not as good as facing it down,

but better than giving in.

 

The one good thing about doing it the hard way (cold turkey) is you

build up lots of will power, but that will fade away if you don't

apply it to something else. Crutches are fine for the physical

withdrawal, but once you're over that don't use crutches anymore or

else it can artificially transplant the craving onto that. The classic

mistake is to allow yourself to think that eating makes it easier to

go without smoking, which creates an unnatural desire for food, which

i think is why some ex-smokers get fat.

 

Good luck!! Hope you succeed.

[Guest guest]

" Cream of Tartar " is used for baking.

Take 1/2 teaspoon of this powder, mix with some water and drink before bed

time. Continue for 15 days. That is the end of your smoking.

On the first few days you will sweat like anything at night. You will fell

that your bedsheet is soaked with sweat. The smell of sweat will be high.

Gradually this will subside. You will double your energy. Together with this

if you deep breath a few times you will no more starve for oxygen.

 

P.J.Joseph

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 09/12/2006 15:24:20 GMT Standard Time, mposey

writes:

 

.. All the long time smokers I've know who quit and still

desired it years later, quit cold turkey. I think extremely intense

cravings changes the brain.

 

 

 

 

sorry, but i disagree.. i smoked 20+ daily for 15 years, stopped over ten

years ago and have never wanted/craved a cig since.... i just decided i didnt

want to do it any more so stopped, no help, cold turkey, no withdrawal

symptoms, nothing, have ever since stopping felt i am a non smoker not an ex

smoker.... i really dont know how i ever had the time!!!!!! so what i guess i'm

saying is... everyone of us is so different.. if i could bottle it (how i quit)

i

would and give it away!

jay

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

CONGRATS !!!! My mom has been smoking since she was like 11 she is

now 57 and she has MAJOR back problems !!! And is now addicted to

pain meds !! So she says to quit smoking would just be too much for

her !! Was the accupuncture expensive ?!?!!? Well great job and keep

it up !! I know it is hard to do !!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, deb horsman <deb3765

wrote:

>

> i am 6 months smoke free with acupuncture. I'd tried patches,

gum, cutting down etc... and this has been the only thing that has

worked

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Do you know that a local naturopath says that this very protocol (working up

to 2 teaspoon of cream of tartar in water twice a day, morning and night) is

the " cure " for candida? He says it pulls the candida out of the body. For

the people that have it really bad, even candida in the brain, this will

work at pulling it out, but that it takes months of being on the protocol.

 

I'm glad you posted this as I have not heard about ctt being used to stop

smoking before.

 

Samala

Renee

 

----

 

" Cream of Tartar " is used for baking.

Take 1/2 teaspoon of this powder, mix with some water and drink before bed

Time. Continue for 15 days. That is the end of your smoking.

On the first few days you will sweat like anything at night. You will fell

That your bedsheet is soaked with sweat. The smell of sweat will be high.

Gradually this will subside. You will double your energy. Together with this

 

If you deep breath a few times you will no more starve for oxygen.

[Guest guest]

Depending on where you live, you can get some wonderful help from Be Smoke

Free Now practitioners. Its not an Herbal method but it is extremely

effective, especially the techniques that they teach you for avoiding

relapsing and also the technology for canceling out the energy of the

nicotine in the body. That seems to completely wipe out craving and

withdrawal symptoms. There's a site at www.besmokefreenow.com

<http://www.besmokefreenow.com/> . To check to see if someone is in or near

your area call 619-557-2700. There are about 30 practitioners in the USA so

depending on where you are there may be some of this excellent help.

 

 

 

Good luck,

 

 

 

Tom Stone

 

Great Life Technologies, LLC

 

2445 Fifth Ave. Suite 332

 

San Diego, CA 92101

 

619-557-2700

 

www.greatlifetechnologies.com

 

tomstone

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

According to time Life books on Medical Science;

 

The Herb Tobacco and the B-Vitamin Choline are remarkedly similar.

 

So when you use Tobacco; the Choline receptors falsely think the

Tobacco is a Choline molecule. this is bad for the system.

 

What you want to do is begin to take Supplements of Choline.

 

You can buy a top notch brand of Choline like Shciff of TwinLab.

 

Solgar is a good brand.

 

Think about this: Tobacco is so much like FAKE B-Vitamins; Scientists

first discovered a Niacin type substance in tobacco.

 

Thus to this very day; Niacin is called Nicotinic Acid.

 

So TOBACCO IS LIKE A PSUEDO-VITAMIN THAT HAS NO NUTRITIONAL VALUE.

Choline found in Egg Yolks; Soy products and Lecithin.

 

If all else fails; you can buy Herbal Cigarettes at Health Store. A.

 

, " Ieneke van Houten "

<ienvan wrote:

>

> Question:

> <I am trying to quit smoking for the xxxxth time and currently using

> Nicotine gum to assist me. Can anyone suggest some herbal products

to

> add to my current plan to ensure more sucess in my attempt.>

>

> Answer:

>

> There was a herbal product based on

> ordinary plantain, the most common

> weed on the planet and a powerful

> healer in its own right.

> You might try a tea of plantain and maybe

> add some mullein, that is soothing to the

> lungs as well.

>

> I also picked up somewhere that the herb

> Ashwaganda is useful for withdrawal.

> Perhaps one of our Ayurvedic friends

> has hints there?

>

> You might also ask yourself what smoking

> does for you, and how can you get that

> without the tobacco?

>

> For instance, I used to use cigarettes to

> help me concentrate during astrology readings.

> Now I use natural substances that have the

> same effect.

>

> In friendship

>

> Ien in the Kootenays

> http://freegreenliving.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure of any herbal remedies for quitting smoking. I do have a

close friend that wound up taking a week off of work and just slept for

the entire week. When she woke up she would take valerian to knock her

back out. After the week her body had worked out most of the toxins and

she had slept through most of the bad cravings. It was alot easier for

her to say no to a cigarette after that week.

Hope this helps.

Ellen

, " jobs_career_work "

<jobs_career_work wrote:

>

> Hello all,

>

> I am trying to quit smoking for the xxxxth time and currently using

> Nicotine gum to assist me. Can anyone suggest some herbal products to

> add to my current plan to ensure more sucess in my attempt.

>

> Thanks in advance

>

> Jay

>

[Guest guest]

Try this mix of Bach Flowers. It worked for myself and my husband

and we had tried everything over 20 years and this was pain free and

so simple!

 

Go to your health store and ask for a mix of:

 

Walnut: for the transition of a smoker into a non smoker

Agrimony: for hiding behind the smoke

Larch: for confidence

Crab Apple: For detoxing your body of nicotine

Impatiens: So you don't get grumpy from withdrawals

 

What we did was take 4 drops whenever we felt like them and while we

were still smoking. At first we were taking them nearly every 15

minutes but this got less and less over a period of days.

 

After two weeks of taking the bach flowers we had run out of

cigarettes, which normally meant panic stations for us! But this

time, we thought we will wait till the morning to buy some more.

 

But by the time the morning came around we didn't even really feel

like buying any...so we didn't ..and 10 years later we still haven't

had a smoke. There was no withdrawals or anything. It was so

simple.

 

So my advice to you is to take these while you are still smoking.

let it happen naturally so there is no stress.

 

It does help also to have a healthy breakfast of orange juice and

fruit salad. Smoking just doesn't feel or taste right after a

breakfast like that!

 

I would love to hear your results.

 

All the best

Diana

http://www.bowentherapy.homestead.com

http://www.cafepress.com/omsymbol

[Guest guest]

The cream of tartar is a GREAT solution - a few questions>

 

Do you stop smoking during this time or will this help you stop -not want to

smoke?

 

Can you drink this if you are using a " patch " to help stop?

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Anne,

That is EXACTLY the kind of information I

was looking for!

 

Thanks.

 

Ien

 

 

[Guest guest]

I was a smoker for 15 years.

 

one day i just left it.

 

do not try anyhing . just forget about smoking and divert your attention to

reading and other activities.

 

 

srisri ravishanker art of living helps.

 

 

sriram

 

Anne <annroc2004 wrote:

According to time Life books on Medical Science;

 

The Herb Tobacco and the B-Vitamin Choline are remarkedly similar.

 

So when you use Tobacco; the Choline receptors falsely think the

Tobacco is a Choline molecule. this is bad for the system.

 

What you want to do is begin to take Supplements of Choline.

 

You can buy a top notch brand of Choline like Shciff of TwinLab.

 

Solgar is a good brand.

 

Think about this: Tobacco is so much like FAKE B-Vitamins; Scientists

first discovered a Niacin type substance in tobacco.

 

Thus to this very day; Niacin is called Nicotinic Acid.

 

So TOBACCO IS LIKE A PSUEDO-VITAMIN THAT HAS NO NUTRITIONAL VALUE.

Choline found in Egg Yolks; Soy products and Lecithin.

 

If all else fails; you can buy Herbal Cigarettes at Health Store. A.

 

, " Ieneke van Houten "

<ienvan wrote:

>

> Question:

> <I am trying to quit smoking for the xxxxth time and currently using

> Nicotine gum to assist me. Can anyone suggest some herbal products

to

> add to my current plan to ensure more sucess in my attempt.>

>

> Answer:

>

> There was a herbal product based on

> ordinary plantain, the most common

> weed on the planet and a powerful

> healer in its own right.

> You might try a tea of plantain and maybe

> add some mullein, that is soothing to the

> lungs as well.

>

> I also picked up somewhere that the herb

> Ashwaganda is useful for withdrawal.

> Perhaps one of our Ayurvedic friends

> has hints there?

>

> You might also ask yourself what smoking

> does for you, and how can you get that

> without the tobacco?

>

> For instance, I used to use cigarettes to

> help me concentrate during astrology readings.

> Now I use natural substances that have the

> same effect.

>

> In friendship

>

> Ien in the Kootenays

> http://freegreenliving.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi! Coming a bit late into the convo. I quit smoking two years ago

and used a wonderful site called quitnet.com. It's basically a

community of people quitting together. I found the love and support

there very, very helpful.

Good luck! :-)

Kristin

www.holisticwellness.com

 

, " Ieneke van Houten "

<ienvan wrote:

>

> Anne,

> That is EXACTLY the kind of information I

> was looking for!

>

> Thanks.

>

> Ien

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ien; great. when I read that in the Time Life Science book the info

kind of made sense to me too. It's interesting. Thanks! A. --- In

, " Ieneke van Houten " <ienvan

wrote:

>

> Anne,

> That is EXACTLY the kind of information I

> was looking for!

>

> Thanks.

>

> Ien

>

>

[Guest guest]

I smoked for 39 years and I was like Mark Twain, I had no trouble

quitting, I have done it a 100 times. It got pretty serious recently

after I had a stroke. The Dr. told me I HAD to quit or face another

stroke. I tried everything in the past, patches, gum, hypnotism and

biofeedback relaxation. I read that with using the patches AND zyban

pills that you had a 50% better chance of quiting. I decided to try

but I added one more thing,, I take glyconutrients and I had noticed

it seemed to calm me a lot so with those three things I figured I had

my best shot at quitting..... I AM three months smoke FREE, I was

amazed how easy it was, the combo WORKED. I still had to fight and I

still do have urges BUT they are not that bad.... I didn't have a

weight gain and I have started walking a LOT and I am watching my

diet.

I hope this may help someone, it literaly saved my life. The

glyconutrients I still take for other health issues and I love it..

 

thats it, thanks

joe

 

, " holisticwellnessdotcom "

<holisticwellnessdotcom wrote:

>

> Hi! Coming a bit late into the convo. I quit smoking two years ago

> and used a wonderful site called quitnet.com. It's basically a

> community of people quitting together. I found the love and support

> there very, very helpful.

> Good luck! :-)

> Kristin

> www.holisticwellness.com

>

> , " Ieneke van Houten "

> <ienvan@> wrote:

> >

> > Anne,

> > That is EXACTLY the kind of information I

> > was looking for!

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > Ien

> >

> >