Hives

[Guest guest]

In the files under articles is Ailments and remedies...... and it says:

Hives: Echinacea Plus Formula; Nerve Formula; Deep Tissue Repair Oil Formula; The Total Body Cleanse Program.

I would definitely do a cleanse if this has been going for 3 years.

Suzi

"NotJustCandles <ANNIE0099" <ANNIE0099 wrote:

Would anyone know a remedy for hives? I am in my 3rd year of having chronic hives. Tired of being itchyFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Another thing I might add to this regimen is a 100 Mg of Niacin per day. The first thing you'll notice are the hives turning on dramatically for a day or three and then disappearing forever ;o)

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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Suzanne Nottmeier

herbal remedies

Sunday, February 16, 2003 5:49 PM

Re: [herbal remedies] Hives

 

In the files under articles is Ailments and remedies...... and it says: Hives: Echinacea Plus Formula; Nerve Formula; Deep Tissue Repair Oil Formula; The Total Body Cleanse Program.

I would definitely do a cleanse if this has been going for 3 years.

Suzi

"NotJustCandles <ANNIE0099" <ANNIE0099 wrote: Would anyone know a remedy for hives? I am in my 3rd year of having chronic hives. Tired of being itchy

[Guest guest]

I was getting chronic hives for about six months and also stomach pains and

so I went to see my naturopath who put me on a very strict regimen for a

month of whole foods, no sugar, no oils except olive or butter, tons of fresh

veggies and whole grains and I can't remember what else, and lo and behold,

my hives disappeared, as did the stomach pains!! This is now the way I eat

and has been for almost a year now and I think I got maybe one hive once

or twice in all that time and that's probably becaause I unwittingly ate

whatever it was that had triggered the hives.

 

I haven't heard seen any mention of diet here so that's the first place I'd

look. Hives are an allergic response so the first place I'd look is to my

diet if they're that chronic!

 

ILANA xoxo

 

Dr. Ian Shillington wrote:

Another thing I might add to this regimen is a 100 Mg of Niacin per

day. The first thing you'll notice are the hives turning on dramatically

for a day or three and then disappearing forever ;o)

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.

505-772-5889

Dr.IanShillington

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Suzanne

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To:

herbal remedies

 

Sent:

Sunday, February 16, 2003 5:49 PM

Subject:

Re: [herbal remedies] Hives

 

 

In the files under articles is Ailments and remedies...... and it

says:

Hives: Echinacea Plus Formula; Nerve Formula; Deep Tissue Repair

Oil

Formula; The Total Body Cleanse Program.

 

I would definitely do a cleanse if this has been going for 3 years.

Suzi

 

"NotJustCandles <ANNIE0099"

<ANNIE0099

wrote:

Would

anyone know a remedy for hives? I am in my 3rd year of having

chronic hives.

 

Tired of being itchy

 

 

 

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

remedy.

3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

to

prescribe for your own health.

We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

as

they behave themselves.

Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person

 

following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from

list members, you are agreeing to

be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members

free of any liability.

 

Dr. Ian Shillington

Doctor of Naturopathy

Dr.IanShillington

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi! I also have hives (for almost 8 years now!) Mine started when I

got pregnant with my little girl and never went away! I have been

ested for all the " big " problems it can be a symptom to and had my

results come back completely " healthy! " If you would like email me

directly we can compare notes (adaffron). I have found

that putting Patchouli essential oil directly on the hives sometimes

helps. It atleast smells good too! Does anyone know of anything

else?

 

Angela

 

herbal remedies , " NotJustCandles

<ANNIE0099@a...> " <ANNIE0099@a...> wrote:

> Would anyone know a remedy for hives? I am in my 3rd year of

having

> chronic hives.

>

> Tired of being itchy

[Guest guest]

Before I discovered what Quercetin could do I used to use Tea

Tree Oil on my skin. I slathered it on, and put on a clean shirt, as

my back was the part most affected. It has a very cooling effect,

and is antiseptic as well.

 

Fran

[Guest guest]

About 15 years ago I started breaking out in hives. They were all over me

and 2+ inches in diameter. It was not fun.

 

As a temporary way to stop itching, someone suggested using Alka-Seltzer. I

let them fizz in the water and drank them up. It worked but no one ever

could tell me why. I figured if I knew why they worked I would figure out

what caused the hives in the first place.

 

I later figured out thru trial, error and LOTS of itching that it was all

caused by what I had always thought was 'innocent'. I had been drinking

sodas. They aren't so innocent. I learned that no matter what brand or

type soda you have they have to preserve it to keep it from growing mold and

who knows what else.

 

I stopped drinking the sodas and the hives went away with them. They return

occasionally when I eat at a friend's house. Usually it's the preservatives

in the food they served. I'm getting to where I'm almost afraid to eat some

things. Commercial foods are FULL of preservatives and who knows what else.

 

I guess I'm trying to say that your hives are most likely your body

screaming at you to stop using/drinking/eating something. You need to

figure out what it is and remove it.

 

*sigh*

 

I'll shaddup now and go back under my rock.

 

Skip

----

One fourth of what you eat keeps you alive.

The rest keeps your doctor alive.

 

-

<adaffron

<herbal remedies >

Monday, February 17, 2003 6:30 AM

[herbal remedies] Re: Hives

 

 

Hi! I also have hives (for almost 8 years now!) Mine started when I

got pregnant with my little girl and never went away! I have been

ested for all the " big " problems it can be a symptom to and had my

results come back completely " healthy! " If you would like email me

directly we can compare notes (adaffron). I have found

that putting Patchouli essential oil directly on the hives sometimes

helps. It atleast smells good too! Does anyone know of anything

else?

 

Angela

 

herbal remedies , " NotJustCandles

<ANNIE0099@a...> " <ANNIE0099@a...> wrote:

> Would anyone know a remedy for hives? I am in my 3rd year of

having

> chronic hives.

>

> Tired of being itchy

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Absolutely. I found this out the hard way, too. The preservative I have to watch out for is 202, also called Potassium Sorbate. It can be found in soaps, shampoos, dairy products, bakery products, soft drinks (sodas), cordials, fruit juices... You name it. It has severely restricted my diet and what I can wash myself and my clothes in.

 

Ironically, 202 is used to stop foods (or whatever) from going mouldy. It's antifungal/anti-mould - and I'm allergic to mould as well!

 

So if it is something you're eating and you can't figure out what, yet you have the same problem with other products like shampoo, check the labels. It's not always listed as 202 - it can be listed by its proper name, Potassium Sorbate. It's also in things like cheese slices, frozen pasties, doughnuts, fruit drink concentrates as well as "freshly squeezed" juices. Check everything. I have to, but it's worth it.

 

These days I always carry antihistamines on me. If I don't get onto the reaction quickly, the hives affect my airways - being asthmatic to boot doesn't help - and my throat swells, and I'm off to hospital. It pays to read everything before you use/eat it.

 

Josie.

 

 

About 15 years ago I started breaking out in hives. They were all over me and 2+ inches in diameter. It was not fun.As a temporary way to stop itching, someone suggested using Alka-Seltzer. I let them fizz in the water and drank them up. It worked but no one ever could tell me why. I figured if I knew why they worked I would figure out what caused the hives in the first place.I later figured out thru trial, error and LOTS of itching that it was all caused by what I had always thought was 'innocent'. I had been drinking sodas. They aren't so innocent. I learned that no matter what brand or type soda you have they have to preserve it to keep it from growing mold and who knows what else.I stopped drinking the sodas and the hives went away with them. They return occasionally when I eat at a friend's house. Usually it's the preservatives in the food they served. I'm getting to where I'm almost afraid to eat some things. Commercial foods are FULL of preservatives and who knows what else.I guess I'm trying to say that your hives are most likely your body screaming at you to stop using/drinking/eating something. You need to figure out what it is and remove it.*sigh*I'll shaddup now and go back under my rock.Skip

[Guest guest]

Echinacea Plus Formula; Nerve Formula; Deep Tissue Repair Oil Formula; The Total Body Cleanse Program.Sill <thesills wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have been breaking out in a series of hives for a couple of weeks. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason for where and when they appear, but last night I broke out in several areas and it kept me up till 3 a.m. I'm wondering if it could be the TT or PP since it started about the time I started taking them.

 

Also, what is the difference between black strap molasses and unsulphered black strap molasses?

 

Blessed Be!

MtMoonKitty

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

__ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Wow! A couple of weeks is a very long time for hives imo. Is this common

for you? I'd try to get at what you are allergic to.

 

If you are uncomfortable you can make a paste with distilled water or a

little chamomile or lavender hydrosol if you have some mixed with finely

ground organic oats. make a paste and apply for relief. Use a clean

coffee grinder.

 

Other ways to soothe the reaction are applying organic whole milk plain

yogurt or pure aloe vera- without additives If you have organic

Chamomile, roman or Lavender, angustifolia a couple of drops total can

be added to either the yogurt or aloe.

 

Is the molasses you are using unsulphured and organic?

Is there anything else you could be allergic to? Any cleansers? Other

products? Foods?

 

As far as Molasses I don't know which Doc recommends for PP. My liver is

not happy with all that iron- so I will want to substitute I believe-

Doc?

 

Sulphured molasses is the by product of sugar making- the fumes used in

manufacturing the sugar are retained as sulphur in the molasses.

Unsulphured is made from the juice of the sugar cane or sugar beet.

Light molasses is made from the first boiling of the cane, dark molasses

is from the second, and blackstrap from the third. Blackstrap is strong,

but a great source of iron and calcium. They are available organic or

non organic.

 

Elizabeth

 

Sill <thesills wrote:

 

 

> I have been breaking out in a series of hives for a couple of weeks. 

> There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason for where and when they

> appear, but last night I broke out in several areas and it kept me up

> till 3 a.m.  I'm wondering if it could be the TT or PP since it started

> about the time I started taking them.

>

[Guest guest]

....Oh- Also good ol breastmilk is usually a very soothing( best I know)

remedy- if you have some ;-)...or the homeopathic remedy Apis if you do

homeo.

Love,

Elizabeth

On Saturday, August 23, 2003, at 10:33 PM, Elizabeth

wrote:

 

> Wow! A couple of weeks is a very long time for hives imo. Is this

> common for you? I'd try to get at what you are allergic to.

>

> If you are uncomfortable you can make a paste with distilled water or a

> little chamomile or lavender hydrosol if you have some mixed with

> finely ground organic oats. make a paste and apply for relief. Use a

> clean coffee grinder.

>

> Other ways to soothe the reaction are applying organic whole milk plain

> yogurt or pure aloe vera- without additives If you have organic

> Chamomile, roman or Lavender, angustifolia a couple of drops total can

> be added to either the yogurt or aloe.

>

> Is the molasses you are using unsulphured and organic?

> Is there anything else you could be allergic to? Any cleansers? Other

> products? Foods?

>

> As far as Molasses I don't know which Doc recommends for PP. My liver

> is not happy with all that iron- so I will want to substitute I

> believe- Doc?

>

> Sulphured molasses is the by product of sugar making- the fumes used in

> manufacturing the sugar are retained as sulphur in the molasses.

> Unsulphured is made from the juice of the sugar cane or sugar beet.

> Light molasses is made from the first boiling of the cane, dark

> molasses is from the second, and blackstrap from the third. Blackstrap

> is strong, but a great source of iron and calcium. They are available

> organic or non organic.

>

> Elizabeth

>

> Sill <thesills wrote:

>

>

>> I have been breaking out in a series of hives for a couple of weeks. 

>> There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason for where and when they

>> appear, but last night I broke out in several areas and it kept me up

>> till 3 a.m.  I'm wondering if it could be the TT or PP since it

>> started about the time I started taking them.

>>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Elizabeth,

The hives have not 'stayed' for 2 weeks, but I have been having breakouts for about that long. I rarely get hives and the only real difference I can think of in my diet (or anything else) has been the addition of TT and PP.

 

I have organic unsulphered molasses (unfortunately, not certified. But it was all I could find).

 

Blessed Be!

MtMoonKitty

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Try the remedies I sent you. Not all at once lol! Keep your diet

simple...increase your intake of pure water by a lot if you can.

 

Perhaps eliminate them both PP and TT for 24 hrs or until no hives and

then slowly introduce one at a time- very gradually increasing from a

tiny amount and backing off if you have a reaction.... and drink lot's

of fluids so your urine is clear/colorless.

 

I'd also eat plain yogurt and use it on my skin to soothe...and the

oatmeal paste which can go on your face and also go in the bath. A raw

cucumber soup sounds very soothing to me.

 

Do you have a good quality Aloe vera? Yogurt? Oatmeal? Lavender and

Chamomile?

 

I think you just need to flush " it " out. And take it easy ;-)

 

Have you been out in the sun?? That could be the issue too.

 

Get some rest...me too....What are we doing up!?

 

Love,

Elizabeth

[Guest guest]

Hi Sherri,

Thought I would share this with you, I don't know whether it will help with

the skin, but I think it will help it not come back.

I developed a severe allergic reaction to some food a few weeks ago and

broke out in lumps, bumps and welts all over. I have to dash into a chemist

and get some anti-histamine, which I am not too keen on.

I was at the New Zealand Aromatherapy conference and we had a naturopath as

one of the speakers. She heard about what had happened, and this was her

advice, which has worked very well for me......I had been having these

breakouts for a few weeks. I took one teaspoon of Vitamin C powder (

ascorbic acid) in a glass of water every hour until I got loose bowels. It

took about 4 times for me, but the Vit C removes the histamines from your

system. I have had no problems since, although as I am tapping away here, I

can feel itches and I know it is psychosomatic.!!!

HTH

Jeanine

 

Mon, 06 Sep 2004 00:40:15 -0400

Sherri <sherria

Hives

 

While I'm here begging for knowledge, I figured I'd ask about this as

well...

 

 

 

I had a severe allergic reaction a week and a half ago - massive hives

over about 50% of my body. The worst of it is finally over now, but my

skin looks a mess. There are blotches all over the place that are

discoloured, though no longer raised or itchy. My doc says it will take

a couple of weeks (or more) for my skin to heal, but I'm hoping someone

might have suggestions about what I could do to speed that process. The

worst of it is on my legs, and it's really annoying to have to avoid

wearing skirts to work during the summer!

 

--

Sherri

[Guest guest]

Hives occur due to either a nervous condition or a

systemic allergy. You can develop allergies to just

about anything, even things you've eaten or been

around from childhood. I suggest that you surf the

web and check out the food allergy sites and begin

some of the routines that's outlined to help you find

out what you are allergic to. After you discover the

problem, you can read up on general nutrition and

cleansing which will help boost your immune system

(hopefully) back to normal. J

 

 

--- " Allison (Ali) " <alllnc wrote:

 

>

>

> Hi,

> My name is Allison. I just joined this group. I

> have always used

> vitamins, but I have lacked in the herbal

> department.

>

> Anyhow, when my mom was about 30 years, she

> developed " hives. "

> Rubbing them would cause them to be bigger. They

> itch and are very

> puffy.

>

> I now get them at the age of 39. I can get rid of

> it by putting

> perscription cortisone creams on it. I also get

> them when I take

> showers, baths.... It is just from water and

> rubbing. Any

> suggestions?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

My wife has used Quercetin with great success in getting chronic hives

to stop. It took about two weeks. From what I know, this is what other

people have experienced. Apparently, it helps with generally reducing

a person's allergy response. We also intially used some healing clay,

to give her relief from the itching and stop the scratching. She was

able to sleep through the night with using the clay, until the

Quercetin kicked in. Up to the point, we had tried many conventional

treatments. Im sure others have some good suggestions.

 

Bobby

[Guest guest]

Add to that list:

Food colorings. I have a patient who found certain yellows and reds caused

him various allergic reactions for years. Even a small amount (in a cheap

vitamin, for instance) is enough to give him asthma and hives.

 

Also, another patient with recalcitrant hives stopped having them after

ceasing to use her family's hot tub... probably a staph reaction.

 

Benjamin Hawes, MAOM, Lic. Ac.,

 

CORTEZ FAMILY ACUPUNCTURE

1430 E. Main Street, Suite #4

Cortez, CO 81321

(970) 565-0230

 

> Message: 13

> Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:02:17 -0700

> Ann <dr.annzee

> RE: Hives-HELP!!!

>

> Hi Sharon,

>

> thanks for the info. I've actually e-mailed my patient with some of your

> questions and asked her to answer them. I really am at my wits end, you've

> added more length to the rope,

>

> thanks kindly for your words and time,

>

> Ann

>

>

> Sharon []

> Sunday, March 27, 2005 3:26 AM

> Chinese Medicine

> RE: Hives-HELP!!!

>

>

>

> Hi Ann,

> What do you think she is having the allergic reaction to, that underpins

> the

> hives?

>

> Do you think it is physical or metaphysical in origin?

>

> If you think it is a physical response to a metaphysical problem, what do

> you see?

> - Stress can cause hives

>

> If it is physical, do you think it is air borne, ingested or dermal

> contact

> in origin?

> Here are a few substances known to cause hives

>

> These Substances can Cause Hives

> Food Additives

> Tartrazine often causes Hives.

>

> Organic Acids

> Benzoic Acid (and its various derivatives) causes Hives in some persons.

>

> Neurotransmitters

> Excessive release of Histamine is implicated in the events that lead to

> Hives. Histamine is released in response to the Antigens that cause

> Allergies. This Antigen-induced Histamine leads to the

> Microangiopermeability that is an underlying event in the manifestation of

> Hives.

>

> Pharmaceutical Drugs

> Aspirin is a frequent cause of Hives.

> Codeine is a frequent cause of Hives.

> Penicillins often cause Hives.

> Sulfonamides often cause Hives.

> Warfarin (infrequently) causes Hives.

>

> These Foods Sometimes Cause Hives

> Some people have Food Allergies to these Foods that manifests as Hives:

> Fruit: Strawberry

> Fish Shellfish

> Nuts: Peanuts

>

> Reference (In-Tele-Health C 2002 (from Hyperhealth CD-ROM))

>

> Which meridians do you think it might be working through?

>

> What do you think is the root cause of her ill health?

>

> Is she showing signs of Kid yang or adrenal exhaustion?

>

> What is her hormonal balance like?

>

> Have you looked to nutritional supplements such Omega 3 oils?

>

> As far as herbs go - Herbs

>

> Aloe vera (gel applied topically) alleviates Hives.

> Chamomile (oil applied topically) alleviates Hives.

> Chickweed (ointment applied topically) alleviates Hives.

> Papaya (ointment applied topically) alleviates Hives.

>

> Red Clover (used as a bath) alleviates Hives.

> Reference (In-Tele-Health C 2002 (from Hyperhealth CD-ROM)).

>

> best wishes,

>

[Guest guest]

while i agree that if one identifies the allergen in hives one can simply treat

it by avoiding exposure. I have to say that i have treated about 25 cases just

with herbs. Most have done quite well. It is more difficult in cases that have

lasted for many years however.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

The bioflavonoid quercetin makes an excellent antihistamine. It is sold

in health food stores in capsules. One capsule as needed is the

recommended dose.

 

herbal remedies , " flip19533 " <FLIPSIDE10@h...>

wrote:

>

>

> Can anyone suggest a quick and easy remedy for hives please.

> Thx in advance.

[Guest guest]

herbal remedies , " flip19533 " <FLIPSIDE10@h...>

wrote:

>

>

> Can anyone suggest a quick and easy remedy for hives please.

> Thx in advance.

 

**********

While there are remedies you can take to help with the " suffering "

from hives, the only actual way to be rid of them is to identify

the " triggering " source(s) and remove them.

 

Chemical pharmaceuticals are very common causes of hives (even if

you've taken them before without a problem). They can even be a side-

effect of the " anti-histamine " drugs they use to " treat " hives.

 

Other common causes of hives can be laundry and/or household cleaning

chemicals, synthetic fabrics and/or fabric treatments in

clothes/bedding, chemical food additives, chemicals in skin/hair care

products/cosmetics etc.

 

Most people think that only " natural " irritants can cause hives, like

pollens, cat hair, grasses, dust, foods, etc. But the chemical ones

can also cause symptoms.

 

If you haven't figured out what is causing them to begin with, it may

take alot of " detective " work (and reading of ingredients on

foods/skin care/fabric labels etc) to find relief.

 

FWIW

Jan

[Guest guest]

Why has there been no mention of the liver. What happens when this organ is

overloaded and cannot fulfill its duty? The answer is that the skin takes

on the duty of eliminating the toxin. Why not look to dredge or cleanse the

liver (good idea in the spring)? Recommend you check out the works of Dr.

Bernard Jensen, DC, Ph D.

 

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

 

 

> " " <alonmarcus

>Chinese Medicine

><Chinese Medicine >

>Re: RE: hives

>Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:23:35 -0600

>

>while i agree that if one identifies the allergen in hives one can simply

>treat it by avoiding exposure. I have to say that i have treated about 25

>cases just with herbs. Most have done quite well. It is more difficult in

>cases that have lasted for many years however.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

LV would seem logical but the pattern to my mind does not fit.

 

By rights it should be LU injures LV. If this were so, it would be LU as

primary element and

LV as secondary.

 

The quick movement of the urticaria patches tends to a LV pattern, as

does Heat, but the location

and the trajectory does not fit, LV would tend to Head and Eyes,

internally to subcostal, and

Upper Warmer.

 

If this were a LV Countering LU, it would come in a much later stage and

there would be very

many more dramatic symptoms.

 

If LV were dredged, made Deficient, LU, which is already in an

Aggressing mood, would

basically maraud LV and precipitate serious problems.

 

Even if it is Spring, a simple cleanse, while laudable by it's own self,

would not be welcome to this

pattern.

 

More thought?

 

mike Bowser wrote:

 

> Why has there been no mention of the liver. What happens when this

> organ is

> overloaded and cannot fulfill its duty? The answer is that the skin

> takes

> on the duty of eliminating the toxin. Why not look to dredge or

> cleanse the

> liver (good idea in the spring)? Recommend you check out the works of

> Dr.

> Bernard Jensen, DC, Ph D.

>

> Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

>

>

>

> > " " <alonmarcus

> >Chinese Medicine

> ><Chinese Medicine >

> >Re: RE: hives

> >Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:23:35 -0600

> >

> >while i agree that if one identifies the allergen in hives one can

> simply

> >treat it by avoiding exposure. I have to say that i have treated

> about 25

> >cases just with herbs. Most have done quite well. It is more

> difficult in

> >cases that have lasted for many years however.

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

What happens to the blood clinically when the liver cannot filter out the

toxins? Our western and eastern training would seem to show a connection

with the liver and that problems here can lead to problems with the skin.

The signs of lung seem inappropriate as there was no mention of cough and

illness without this important respiratory sign and other symptoms cannot be

a pattern of the lung zang (Nan Jing). As Zev has pointed out before, it is

important that we use the correct set of theory for the pattern. Has anyone

checked with the Wen Bing to see about patterns? Dr. Bernard Jensen worked

with many patients like this and successfully used nutrition (raw foods) and

supplements to heal and rebuild tissue. The cooling effects of these would

greatly help this type of hot condition.

Hope this helps.

 

 

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

 

 

>dkakobad <dkaikobad

>Chinese Medicine

>Chinese Medicine

>Re: RE: hives

>Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:57:32 -0700

>

>LV would seem logical but the pattern to my mind does not fit.

>

>By rights it should be LU injures LV. If this were so, it would be LU as

>primary element and

>LV as secondary.

>

>The quick movement of the urticaria patches tends to a LV pattern, as

>does Heat, but the location

>and the trajectory does not fit, LV would tend to Head and Eyes,

>internally to subcostal, and

>Upper Warmer.

>

>If this were a LV Countering LU, it would come in a much later stage and

>there would be very

>many more dramatic symptoms.

>

>If LV were dredged, made Deficient, LU, which is already in an

>Aggressing mood, would

>basically maraud LV and precipitate serious problems.

>

>Even if it is Spring, a simple cleanse, while laudable by it's own self,

>would not be welcome to this

>pattern.

>

>More thought?

>

>mike Bowser wrote:

>

> > Why has there been no mention of the liver. What happens when this

> > organ is

> > overloaded and cannot fulfill its duty? The answer is that the skin

> > takes

> > on the duty of eliminating the toxin. Why not look to dredge or

> > cleanse the

> > liver (good idea in the spring)? Recommend you check out the works of

> > Dr.

> > Bernard Jensen, DC, Ph D.

> >

> > Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

> >

> >

> >

> > > " " <alonmarcus

> > >Chinese Medicine

> > ><Chinese Medicine >

> > >Re: RE: hives

> > >Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:23:35 -0600

> > >

> > >while i agree that if one identifies the allergen in hives one can

> > simply

> > >treat it by avoiding exposure. I have to say that i have treated

> > about 25

> > >cases just with herbs. Most have done quite well. It is more

> > difficult in

> > >cases that have lasted for many years however.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Buffered (w/calcium) Vitamin C since this vitamin is a natural antihistamine (and an immune system aid). But she needs to pay attention to when and why she gets hives. Hives is usually an allergic reaction. Or it can be stress, or even an immediate temperature change such as being overheated and then dowsing one's self with cold water. She should probably take Vit. C every day since she is prone to hives.

 

Jan

 

 

herbal remedies [herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of energy2spare4uWednesday, May 17, 2006 6:33 PMherbal remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - HivesI have a friend that has a severe case of hives. The Doctors have tried everything and she still has them. Cortisone doesn't touch them. Neither does antibotics. They don't hurt just itch. And noone likes red splotches. She never knows when they will break out. Any suggestions?

[Guest guest]

Hello:

 

I have had the hives since Friday. I've never had them in my life. I

went to immediate care on Saturday morning and was prescribed a 7

day dose of prednisone. Then on Sunday, the hives were so bad that I

had to go to the ER. I was given a shot of epinephrine and a shot of

hydroxyzine (sp?). I must now carry an Epi pen with me because Ihad

hives in my throat too.

 

Today (Monday) I'm still covered in the itchy red patches and

feeling a bit nauseaous. I can't think of one thing that I've done

differently over the past couple of days to trigger something this

awful. I've pretty much been home all weekend too. Could this be

something internal and hives are just a reaction? I'm completely

stumped. I don't have any known allergies to anything or even to

most meds. I don't currently take any meds.

 

Can someone all of a sudden just develop an allergy to something

that they've been around their whole life??

 

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

 

~Diane

[Guest guest]

It is very common to develop an allergy to ANYTHING at any moment. An

allergy represents a corruption of the immune system.

 

 

 

Also, unless you live in a bubble, it is very possible that you have been

exposed to something without realizing it. The EPA recently reported to

Congress that indoor air pollution represents the biggest personal

environmental threat to our health today. Some cleaning chemical in a

grocery store could have hit your liver with just enough molecules to

overload your ability to detoxify in comfort.

 

 

 

And then we won't even get into the health impact of the drugs you just took

and how long they'll linger in your system.

 

 

 

I have had clients work at hair salons for years without any " symptoms. " One

day they break out in hives doing a color job with the same chemicals

they've used for years. At that point, the body is simply on overload. It

didn't appear that way before because that's how it is with most symptoms.

In many cases I have recommended 3 months of a vegetarian diet and some

high-quality nutritional supplements to help limit exposure to things that

burden the body (e.g., all forms of animal products, refined foods,

preservatives, microwave heated anything) and support the nutritional needs

of the body while it works to heal. This alone has amazing results in about

80% of the people I've suggested it to.

 

 

 

-Dave

 

 

 

_____

 

Dave Saunders, NC, DNEH

Certified Nutritional Educator and Wellness Coach, ANA

Member of the American International Association of Nutritional Education

(AIANE)

 

_____

 

 

On Behalf Of Diane

Monday, November 27, 2006 11:29 AM

 

Hives

 

 

 

Hello:

 

I have had the hives since Friday. I've never had them in my life. I

went to immediate care on Saturday morning and was prescribed a 7

day dose of prednisone. Then on Sunday, the hives were so bad that I

had to go to the ER. I was given a shot of epinephrine and a shot of

hydroxyzine (sp?). I must now carry an Epi pen with me because Ihad

hives in my throat too.

 

Today (Monday) I'm still covered in the itchy red patches and

feeling a bit nauseaous. I can't think of one thing that I've done

differently over the past couple of days to trigger something this

awful. I've pretty much been home all weekend too. Could this be

something internal and hives are just a reaction? I'm completely

stumped. I don't have any known allergies to anything or even to

most meds. I don't currently take any meds.

 

Can someone all of a sudden just develop an allergy to something

that they've been around their whole life??

 

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

 

~Diane